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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-03-17

---Logopened Wed Mar 17 00:00:22 2021
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01:24<truwrecks>Good evening everyone
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01:25<anix>hi
01:25<truwrecks>I am back working on my HP server to solve an annoyin gnetwork issue and hopefully avoid reinstalling the OS.
01:26<truwrecks>I originally had a LAG interface defined but replaced it with a 10 Gbe NIC. Now now of the KDE tools can access the Network.
01:27<truwrecks>I have tried defining the interfaces in the /etc/managed file but it does not help. I can't find anything on google that points my in the right direction.
01:28<truwrecks>I have tried removing and reinstalling the NIC and firmware again from scratch. No luck.
01:29<truwrecks>I hoping it is something minor I am missing. All KDE desktop apps complain that they cannot connect and they cannot get authorization.
01:30-!-ml| [~ml|@00016c5c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:31<truwrecks>Build is Debian 10.8 with kernel 5.10.0-0.bpo.3-amd
01:32<truwrecks>No missing firmware for any network device.
01:34<truwrecks>uname -a Linux carnio-playground2 5.10.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1 (2021-02-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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04:17<k_>Hey
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07:03<DebianLover>Greetings
07:03<DebianLover>Can I have someone in private chat about Debian?
07:03<DebianLover>Oh no PC in here
07:04<DebianLover>Anybody alive?
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07:05<avu>DebianLover: just ask your question here
07:05<avu>!ask
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07:05<avu>hm, dpkg gone/dead?
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07:05<DebianLover>For a long time, as a Windows user I 'm in love with Debian , I only once installed as a real daily driver then I immediately removed it off and switched back to Windows 10
07:06<DebianLover>And now, I still want to have Debian permanently.. not on VMs
07:07<DebianLover>I dont wanna look other distros like mint or ubuntu etc..
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07:07<cc>do you have a specific question?
07:07<DebianLover>Yes I do have but it's stupid and funny
07:07<DebianLover>A simple question
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07:08<DebianLover>I have 240 gigs ssd + 1tb hdd + 1 tb raid 1 system ( 500+500)
07:08<DebianLover>I want to install Debian into my ssd and keep all my other stuff on 1tb automatically
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07:09<DebianLover>like i was doing c:\users\xxx\desktop to my D:\Desktop
07:09<cc>2x 500 GB drives do not make a 1TB raid 1 array
07:09<DebianLover>like i was doing c:\users\xxx\Downloads to D:\Downloads
07:09<cc>2x 500 GB drives make a 500 GB raid 1 array
07:09<DebianLover>But in my system I've done 500+500 raid 1 = 1tb
07:09<DebianLover>it was odd yes I know
07:09<avu>that would be raid 0, not raid 1
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07:10<cc>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels#RAID_1
07:10<DebianLover>I tried to do raid 0 , it showed me 500gigs only
07:10<DebianLover>anyway, maybe im wrong with raid, its not important
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07:12<DebianLover>is my question simple?
07:12<avu>DebianLover: one way to achieve this is to mount the 1TB drive at /home while using the SSD for /
07:12<DebianLover>ah great!
07:12<avu>you can be more granular if you want, using bind mounts or symlinks
07:13<DebianLover>you know... when i boot up my debian, i want to see my desktop showing on my 1tb ( not on ssd)
07:13<DebianLover>it'll be /dev/sdb/home ?
07:13<avu>no
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07:13<DebianLover>sorry for my stupidity folks :(
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07:14<avu>DebianLover: start with https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.en.html#di-partition
07:15<DebianLover>this /home stands for desktop?
07:15<avu>DebianLover: the installation guide is generally a good thing to keep handy and read especially during your first install
07:15<cc>I would not recommend mounting a drive with what I assume is NTFS and has data already as /home
07:15<avu>they said they do not want dual boot, right=
07:15<avu>I was assuming all drives would be reformatted during install
07:16<cc>additionally, the exact mechanism using which the raid is implemented is important
07:16<DebianLover>no dual boot yes, only debian i want
07:16<DebianLover>but my other drives are all ntfs
07:16<avu>change that
07:16<cc>avu: they want to "keep all my other stuff on 1tb automatically" so I assume nothing other than the 240 GB SSD is going to be reformatted
07:16<DebianLover>can i do without losing data from ntfs > ext4 ?
07:16<avu>if you don't want dual boot, there is no reason to keep around NTFS
07:17<avu>cc: "keep" can mean "store" in this case
07:17<avu>DebianLover: no, use your backups
07:17<DebianLover>i meant store yes, perfect
07:17<cc>as such, I would mount it under /mnt or /home/<user>/data or something
07:17<peb>[2021-03-17 12:16:52] <DebianLover> can i do without losing data from ntfs > ext4 ?
07:17<DebianLover>what we see on debian desktop ... located where?
07:17<peb>changing a filesystem format is destructive
07:18<peb>you need to save your data somewhere else
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07:18<peb>and then restore these
07:18<DebianLover>this time.. i wont give up i promise myself... i feel i need to switch to debian
07:18<DebianLover>but my habits are delaying me
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07:19<DebianLover>can i learn where desktop is located by default?
07:19<DebianLover> is it /home/username/desktop ?
07:20<peb>DebianLover:that depends
07:20<peb>/home/username/Desktop is generally where some window manager like gnome put these
07:20<peb>erm, not gnome, xfce
07:20<peb>gnome IDK
07:21<peb>some other don't rely on that directory
07:21<avu>GNOME doesn't have a Desktop directory in the classical sense anymore
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07:21<DebianLover>glad you exist folks! appreciate your helps
07:21<DebianLover>step by step i started to understand
07:22<cc>how exactly did you create your RAID array ?
07:22<DebianLover>i entered my bios
07:22<DebianLover>my mb is x58a chipset gigabyte
07:22<DebianLover>then i selected 500+500 empty hdd s
07:23<DebianLover>i wanted to have a tidy situation in my windows so i did raid 0 or 1 i dont remember... it became 1tb
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07:23<cc>that should work seamlessly then
07:23<cc>if it's 2x 500GB drives, it's RAID 0
07:23<DebianLover>whenever i boot up my pc, it shows NV raid
07:24<DebianLover>but i have another standalone 1tb
07:24<DebianLover>so, 240gb ssd + 1tb standalone + 1tb raid 0 ( 500+500 ) i have total...
07:25<DebianLover>if i can manage the things.. really i will get rid off this win 10
07:25<DebianLover>maybe im mentally sick by not trusting what win10 does in background
07:27<peb>I'd not any form of mental sickness with tech things, as it's a bit degrading for those who have actual mental sicknesses
07:27<peb>I'd not connect*
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07:31<DebianLover>What a nice thing to hear that ISS using debian too :)
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07:36<dreamer>that news is almost a decade old
07:36<dreamer>ok 2013
07:36<dreamer>only 8 years old :P
07:37<peb>kkr
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09:09<r4fkramer>Please, I have a problem opening the network stream on vlc that is installed in Debian in hd.
09:09<r4fkramer>In this same installation, I use another virtualized debian by virt-manager, and in this virtual installation the same stream opens faster (15 seconds max, while in the physical installation it takes up to 10 minutes).
09:09<r4fkramer>Both are debian buster 10.8 and the VLC of both is from the stable repository.Please, does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
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09:23<r4fkramer_>Sorry, my connection has failed here. I was asking support for network stream issues in vlc running in debian
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09:31<bremner>r4fkramer_: there were no replies
09:32<bremner>I typically only play local files myself
09:32<r4fkramer_>yes, bremner, I realized that
09:34<r4fkramer_>Did you see about my question before ? I'm comparing network stream performance between two debian installations: one in real hardware; the other is installed in qemu/kvm framework.
09:34<joostvb>r4fkramer_: yes your question was seen
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09:35<r4fkramer_>Thank you for answering, joostvb
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10:06<jello>hello, i'm trying to use apt-cacher-ng and have added a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ with Acquire::http { Proxy "http://127.0.0.1:3142"; }. When I do apt update, it tries to connect but I see the error "Connection failed [IP: 127.0.0.1 3142]"; however, I do get the instructions page when I visit http://localhost:3142/ using lynx. Help!
10:07<jello>running buster+backports
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11:25<m4xpwn>hi
11:26<m4xpwn>first time here !
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11:33<m4xpwn>hello
11:33<m4xpwn>anyone here
11:33<m4xpwn>?
11:33<blast007>yes
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11:33<blast007>lots of people. Do you need some support with Debian?
11:33<m4xpwn>nice ! i am testing a new irc client
11:34<m4xpwn>seems that this is perfectly working
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11:57<ntrincano>hello everyone
11:58<ntrincano>i would need some help about a Debian issue that i can't solve my self please
11:58<alex11>just ask
11:58<ntrincano>well I'm running a Debian 10.7 with custom installation on it
11:59<ntrincano>everything seems ok for several days/weeks but at some point it seems that the machine freezes
11:59<ntrincano>i can't connect to it via ssh anymore and nothing that runs usually seems to run anymore
12:00<ntrincano>when i plug a screen and a keyboard, it asks for a login and a password as usual but then i see no prompt
12:00<ntrincano>and a simple hard reset solves the problem
12:00<ntrincano>however, i can't find any hints into the logs
12:00<ntrincano>maybe i don't look in the right place
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12:04<ntrincano>sorry i lost the connection
12:04<ntrincano>i don't know if someone answered
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12:10<ntrincano>should i write back my demand?
12:10<alex11>nobody answered yet
12:10<ntrincano>ok thank you
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12:11<ntrincano>i'll wait for an answer then
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12:41<jimpop>i never can remember the answer to this.... will the next release of debian carry the name bullseye or will that change at release time?
12:41<jimpop>(something, something, sid)
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12:47<Edhil>jimpop: only sid stay sid all the time
12:47<Edhil>bullseye will be the next stable
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12:48<jimpop>thx!!
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15:27<Sqrt{not}>ntrincano, what logs did you look at? what kind of login/password prompt when you plus in the screen/keyboard -- text only, or graphical environment.
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16:16<yang>Is there a way to suggest a package to find additional Debian developer, because it's being outdated and there are already new versions available (needs an upgrade)?
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16:17<sarnold>hey yang :)
16:17<yang>hey
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16:18<sarnold>debian's currently in a freeze https://release.debian.org/bullseye/freeze_policy.html -- so whatever changes you'd like won't happen right away
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16:19<yang>oh well, then it's too late
16:19<sarnold>if the package just needs a refersh, probably a standard bug report is good enough; if there's something else, like the packager isn't around any more, *maybe* https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ -- but there may be different procedures etc around that
16:20<yang>yes, the packager isn't around (busy with other things) so someone would need to takeover the upgrade to the next version
16:20<Unit193>If someone was interested, they could go through the process of ITS.
16:22<yang>can a non-developer suggest the package for adoption ?
16:22*sarnold hears the monty python flying's circus music in his head
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16:30<yang>Unit193: ITS?
16:30<Unit193>yang: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#package-salvaging that's if you want the package.
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16:33<yang>thanks
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16:39<Unit193>I think if you don't want it, your best bet is as sarnold says, file a bug asking for a new version.
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16:43<yang>Unit193: I am not the developer, and the wishlist bug has been submitted in september 2020
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16:53<queso>I have been tracking testing with my laptop. I'd like to switch to tracking bullseye so it's stays stable. Can I just change references of `testing' to `bullseye' in my apt sources?
16:54<sney>yes
16:55<queso>sney: Do I need to add a line that says: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye/updates main
16:56<sney>!testing security
16:56<dpkg>Security updates in testing are delayed by the normal testing migration *and* may be further delayed by missing dependencies, etc. See https://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing ; «deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main» can be used (but will be empty until release).
16:56<sney>the syntax has changed, see this example ^
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16:57<queso>sney: Like this then? https://dpaste.com/H47KZSSBZ
16:58<sney>looks good to me!
16:58<queso>sney: Perfect. Thanks for your help
16:58<sney>np
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17:02<CaptainTXS>Cheers, need a little help. Trying to install latest NVIDIA drivers, cant seem to find any decent guides using google foo...or least learn how to add signed drivers to the nvidia driver install.
17:02<sarnold>CaptainTXS: have you seen this one yet? https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
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17:03<CaptainTXS>I have, causes a kernel panic after fresh install...installed per those instruction, reboot, and panic.
17:05<sarnold>ouch
17:05<CaptainTXS>yeah, frustrating to say the least.
17:06<CaptainTXS>reinstalling the base buster system now.
17:06<sney>what gpu is it? is it discrete or optimus? what "latest" drivers were you trying to install, and from where?
17:06<CaptainTXS>3090
17:06<CaptainTXS>I tried the guide, https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#buster-460, which caused the panic...
17:07<sney>did you confirm that the module was able to build before rebooting?
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17:08<CaptainTXS>it did.
17:09<CaptainTXS>I can run through it again...may have been user error(usually is), but followed the instructions to a T.
17:09<sney>and finally, were you also using the 5.10 kernel from backports, or was this with the stock buster 4.19?
17:11<CaptainTXS>stock buster 4.19
17:11<sney>ok. you may have better results with using both the kernel and nvidia-driver from backports.
17:11<sney>try it again, and make sure everything is kosher before you try rebooting. feel free to ask here for guidance.
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17:11<CaptainTXS>where do I find the kernel guide for 5.10?
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17:12<sney>'apt -t buster-backports install linux-image-amd64'.
17:13<sney>oh, and linux-headers-amd64 as well. no guide, just 2 packages.
17:13<CaptainTXS>appreciate the help sney
17:13<sney>np
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17:23<aindilis>anyone have experience with scanning to an ADS2700W or similar?: "scanimage: sane_read: Error during device I/O"
17:24<aindilis>I can get it to scan one page properly using xscanimage for some reason
17:24<aindilis>but not with scanimage or simple-scan
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17:24<aindilis>I wrote a document management system and am trying to get a decent scanner working for it, but so far, it's been absolutely atrocious
17:25<aindilis>anyone know where the error messages for sane are?
17:25<aindilis>*logs
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17:28<CaptainTXS>sney, I think that did the trick. reboot worked find. It shows 460 installed, however when i run nvidia-smi it doesnt communicate with the driver...so no info
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17:28<CaptainTXS>how to I make sure the driver is running.
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17:31<sarnold>you could check X logs, /var/log/Xorg.0.log probably
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17:32<CaptainTXS>not running xorg.
17:32<CaptainTXS>hmm
17:34<sney>'lspci -k' and check kernel driver in use
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19:48<aindilis>so I improved upon my earlier result, am able to scan (even duplex), but only at 100 DPI :(
19:49<aindilis>anything else and the doc is only partially completed (i.e. it cuts off)
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19:51<sney>aindilis: fwiw, I've found that sane is generally lacking, and have had consistently better results with using the 'scan to network' function on any modern scanner in combination with a samba share. it looks like yours supports this too.
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22:38<CleanNetwork>hi darlings, installing Debian in a 2014 laptop after 20 years
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22:39<CleanNetwork>I'm having problems, after installation it booted all right, but when rebooting my laptop told me "no media found"
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22:39<CleanNetwork>I updated BIOS, I changed BIOS settings regarding that UEFI thing, but to no avail
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22:40<CleanNetwork>I checked Debian Wiki but there's too much info there
22:40<sarnold>was 'no media found' from the bios or from a booted OS?
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22:41<CleanNetwork>the only OS there now is Debian
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22:41<sarnold>TailsLinux: any chance you can fix your connection?
22:41<CleanNetwork>I mean the user OS, I don't know if there is anything more low-level
22:42<CleanNetwork>it's a new disk drive, only with Debian
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22:44<sarnold>TailsLinux: any chance you can fix your connection?
22:48<trench>lunarbnc.net is kickass
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22:49<trench>sarnold: you can hide that join/quit stuff in irssi, you know that right?
22:50<sarnold>trench: yes, and as ircop it's a bad idea for me to do so :)
22:50<CleanNetwork> I found this, let's see this one, thanks for your help sarnold. Sorry I'm in a real hurry to install Debian. Oh man if I can feel like I did when using Debian to work back then it will be glorious http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=148510
22:51<trench>sarnold: yeah true :)
22:52<trench>sarnold: I think it would go faster for you to get it fixed with /query TailsLinux :)
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22:52<sarnold>trench: maybe; it's been eight minutes though, I'm hoping it's solved already :)
22:53<trench>hehe
22:53<trench>kind of strange for a znc not to stay connected too
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23:05<aindilis>sney: thanks for the tip! I did find out that I had to use brscan5, instead of brscan4, and now it works as desired.
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23:11<trench>0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 436 not upgraded.
23:12<trench>good thing archive.debian.org still hosts the old files
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23:31<segamain>qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display
23:31<segamain>qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even though it was found.
23:31<segamain>This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.
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23:32<segamain>when I run './Unetbootin-linux64-702.bin'
23:32<themill>(a) please don't use unetbootin with anything to with debian (b) it needs X to run and you do not have that
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23:35<segamain>themill: I have x 'chmod 777'
23:35<segamain>themill: sorry
23:35<sarnold>that's almost always a mistake
23:35<segamain>before that I ran 'chmod +x'
23:35<sarnold>1777 on directories can make sense, but 777 on files is a bad idea
23:36<segamain>sarnold: noted
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23:39<themill>the issue is likely that you're running the program as root from within a user session
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23:43<segamain>themill: nope says 'must be run as root open in command line using:sudo QT_X11_NO_MITSHM=1/path/path/path'
23:45<themill>you're not telling us what you're doing, so you're expecting us to guess
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23:46<segamain>I'm just executing it ./
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23:46<segamain>and then I get the error
23:46<themill>real commands and real output in a pastebin
23:48<r4fkramer>Hi all, I tried to install Grub for Debian 10.8 on the master boot records with the two options: force EFI and the other without forcing EFI. I was unable to install Grub in both cases, and the system now can't be booted, for it's without Grub.
23:48<r4fkramer>I used the Expert Install option without a graphical environment. Please, what is preventing the installation from being successful?
23:49<r4fkramer>By the way: use stable version and to be installed in virt-manager
23:50<r4fkramer>a previous debian installation was done successfully, but I used 'install' without graphical resource, but not 'Expert Install' on the other hand.
23:56<segamain>themill: https://pastebin.com/SFfw4KrS
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23:58<themill>so yes, you are running this as root within a user session and that will not work
23:59<segamain>themill: when I dont run it as root it says I have too
23:59<themill>yes, it's crap software.
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