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00:21<Sqrt{not}>Doug_Gregory, is the Adaptor recognized at all by the system? Any mention of it in dmesg?
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02:18<anix>hi, is it possible to view archives of debians mailing lists?
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02:55<Ionic>What are the chances of a kernel option being enabled upon request, which is currently disabled?
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03:00<Ionic>(To be more specific, the current base config disables or doesn't enable CONFIG_UNICODE, whichever way you want to see this, which makes it impossible to mount EXT4 file systems that have the case-insensitivity feature enabled.)
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03:24<anix>can't you use sysctl to enable?
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03:25<Ionic>It's a built-in kernel feature, so sadly no.
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03:32<anix>are you asking if the deb-source config options for the kernel image source package allow configuring this feature at compile time?
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03:33<Ionic>More meta than that, I'm asking if maintainers are likely to enable it in the source package.
03:34<Ionic>But, of course, trying is always an option...
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03:37<anix>you might be stuck compiling your own kernel if you really need that feature, or re-format/move your data onto more standard case sensitive filesystems ?
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03:40<Ionic>Yeah, I could just reformat since the volumes are empty, but given that I'd like to use them for the next few years, it would have been nice to have it enabled. I'll eventually use a custom kernel anyway, but for now, I'm working with a grml Debian-based system that uses the standard kernel. In any case, I guess that Debian would benefit from being able to mount such volumes.
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03:48<anix>This could be a chance for you to give btrfs a try, heh
03:50<Ionic>Urgh... I'm not really in the mood for experiments and wouldn't use its features anyway
03:53<Ionic>Ten years ago, I used JFS as my root file system and that was... interesting.
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03:55<anix>haven't heard of JFS, I gave btrfs a try but not as my root file system! just on a USB stick
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03:57<anix>I've got an issue with my debian packages conflicting, and I can't upgrade, so I'm facing an entire re-install of debian, so maybe a btrfs snapshot might get me out of a jam like that
03:57<anix>I mean I could be more risk taking with apt/dpkg apt priority stuff
03:58<Ionic>Snapshots would at least allow you to play around and roll back if needed, but they also use a lot of space once data is actually changed
04:00<anix>I think you can remove the tree that is carrying the old snapshot, once you were satified of package upgrades
04:01<anix>well I'm AFK, good luck, and always remember before you make changes - make backups!
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05:28<psztoch10>Hello! When will http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/bullseye/main/installer-amd64/ be updated to current kernel?
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05:51<psztoch10>psztoch10: Installer uses 5.9 currently and it is mismatched with packages in repo.
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06:29<bentham>psztoch10: this question might be better for #debian-next
06:29<bentham>(since it is about testing)
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06:35<psztoch10>bentham: Thx.
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08:01<ottavio>I've added a custom path for man pages: MANDB_MAP /usr/pkg/man/ /var/cache/man/pkg
08:02<ottavio>How do I update mandb to have whatis and apropos to look in /usr/pkg/man ?
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08:19<joostvb>ottavio: maybe have a look in /etc/cron.weekly/man-db
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08:22<ottavio>Has anythng changed from strecth to buster. I used to be able to add the MAN_DB path to /etc/manpath.config and then run mandb -d.
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08:33<joostvb>ottavio: my /etc/manpath.config does not contain a MAN_DB value (it _does_ contain lots of other stuff). i'm on 10/buster
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08:35<ottavio>Sorry I meant MANDB_MAP
08:37<joostvb>i'd try MANDATORY_MANPATH too. i'm not quite sure though, now learning about all this stuff
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08:42<ottavio>I start thinking systemd messes up with mandb.
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08:43<joostvb>there is #858022 which was closed
08:43<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/858022 in man-db (closed, patch, fixed-upstream): «add systemd timer»; severity: normal; opened: 2017-03-17; last modified: 2019-07-01.
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09:04<ottavio>Ok, I posted to debian-user and let's see what happens.
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10:08<sodo>i have problem on my debian xfce laptop
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10:08<sodo>...
10:08<sodo>i'll be back after some test
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10:09<sodo>my laptop suspends well and wakes up well
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10:09<sodo>but when i try to wake up by opening the lid
10:10<sodo>it wakes up for a while(no screen ctrl+alt+f1 works)
10:10<sodo>then fell a sleep again
10:10<sodo>how can i fix it?
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10:19<drebs>hello! i'm using hugepages with libvirt/kvm and after deleting a guest i don't see more free hugepages as i expected
10:20<drebs>when i sum the memory of all guests, i should end up with a certain amount of free pages, but that's less than i actually see in /proc/meminfo
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11:46<celsius>Hi everyone, I would like to launch code (vscode) as root and save with www-date permissions without every time I have to do chown -r www-date:www-date, how can I do?
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16:31<veroski>ciaoo
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16:32<veroski>hello i have install xchat now
16:32<petn-randall>hi veroski
16:32<veroski>hi petn-randall
16:33<veroski>can i create my own groups with my friend in xchat?
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16:35<sney>veroski: xchat is an irc client, it just connects to irc servers. but anyone can host an irc server, sure. learn more at http://www.irchelp.org/
16:36<veroski>i understand, thank you. sney c:
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18:10<Woopiewoop>Is this the proper place to get help with installing problem with Debian 10?
18:11<petn-randall>Woopiewoop: This is the place :)
18:13<Woopiewoop>So. I have a problem with several pc's where i use the non-uefi install and i want to put two separate hard drives there alongside with the root hard drive. So i set the mount points to /hdd1 and /hdd2. Those hard drives already have files inside them. The problem is that however i have partitioned the root drive the installation keeps failing. Does not boot.
18:14<Woopiewoop>So /hdd1 is one disk that already has files in and /hdd2 is disk2 that already has files in it.
18:15<petn-randall>Woopiewoop: So you install Debian on the 3rd drive? Do you also boot from that?
18:15<Woopiewoop>Yes i also boot from that drive. 3rd drive is the root drive.
18:16<Woopiewoop>I have tried setting up Ext4 partition in it /boot
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18:16<petn-randall>Woopiewoop: What error do you get when booting?
18:16<Woopiewoop>Which was 1gb in size.
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18:17<Woopiewoop>I basically just get blinking underscore.
18:17<petn-randall>Woopiewoop: Ah, so how did you prepare the installation image?
18:17<Woopiewoop>I used dd.
18:18<petn-randall>For some reason it sounds like the installer is not installing grub correctly. Did that step run through fine during installation?
18:19<Sqrt{not}>did you 'sync' after the dd ?
18:19<Woopiewoop>That step did run through.
18:19<Woopiewoop>plurb@plurbs-pc:~$ sudo dd bs=4M if=/home/help/Downloads/debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdb status=progress oflag=sync
18:19<Woopiewoop>That is the command i used.
18:20<Mister00X>Could this be missing non free firmware?
18:20<Woopiewoop>Im not using non free firmware.
18:21<Woopiewoop>You think that something needs non free firmware?
18:21<Mister00X>Woopiewoop: can you switch to a tty using ctrl + alt + F2
18:21<Mister00X>Woopiewoop: yes maybe depends on you hardware
18:21<Woopiewoop>When there is the blinking underscore?
18:21<Mister00X>Woopiewoop: yes can you switch to a tty when the blinking underscore appears
18:22<Woopiewoop>Im now reinstalling it so have to wait for a while.
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18:23<Mister00X>Woopiewoop: just one question do you get past the grub menu?
18:23<Mister00X>s/do/did
18:23<Woopiewoop>If you mean blinking underscore then no.
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18:24<Woopiewoop>It basically shows me the BIOS screen and has blinking underscore every time there.
18:25<Sqrt{not}>tell more detail how the root drive is partitioned
18:26<Woopiewoop>atm. it is the default, so root and swap.
18:26<Woopiewoop>guided
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18:27<Woopiewoop>With only changing the other drives to point to the right directory.
18:27<petn-randall>The relevant part will be where you installed grub in the last step, and if that failed or not.
18:27<Woopiewoop>I picked the root drive.
18:28<Woopiewoop>Also i did not see any failure in that.
18:28<Woopiewoop>Unless the blinking underscore :D
18:28<petn-randall>Woopiewoop: And in the BIOS you set that drive as first and only boot drive?
18:28<Woopiewoop>Yes.
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18:30<petn-randall>Woopiewoop: I see. Is this a system that can also boot via UEFI?
18:30<Woopiewoop>No i can't for this system.
18:30<Woopiewoop>UEFI works perfectly on other systems.
18:31<Woopiewoop>For some reason legacy is the problem.
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18:32<petn-randall>Woopiewoop: I'm not suggesting to enable it, I'm asking if it has UEFI support. Because then maybe the settings are wrong there to disable it on boot.
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18:33<Woopiewoop>So the system does not support UEFI
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18:35<Woopiewoop>I can't get anywhere from the blinking light.
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18:37<Woopiewoop>Well. I think i gotta head off to bed. Thank you for trying to help :) I appreciate it.
18:37<yeetboi_>hello
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18:38<sney>hi
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18:41<yeetboi_>hello?
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18:42<sney>!chat
18:42<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic (either freenode or oftc) or #moocows on irc.oftc.net, ##chat on irc.freenode.net, or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/
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18:42<yeetboi_>hello?
18:43<sney>yeetboi_: can we help you with something?
18:43<yeetboi_>yea um how do i make a chat channel
18:44<sney>/join #yeetboi will create that channel if it's empty. read more about irc at irchelp.org.
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18:46<yeetboi_>thanks!
18:48*petn-randall yeets yeetboi_ into #yeetboi.
18:48<yeetboi_>now can u tell me how to make it avaliable to the public?
18:48<petn-randall>yeetboi_: It is available to the public.
18:48<sney>it is already, anyone else can join that channel the same way you did
18:48<yeetboi_>oh
18:48<yeetboi_>u guys wanna join i guess?
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18:49<petn-randall>Nah, I'm already in 40+ channels.
18:49<yeetboi_>how about u sney?
18:51<sney>really, read the irchelp link, it explains this better than we can. you can also get help in #oftc.
18:51<sney>this channel is for debian users who need help with their OS, so explaining IRC is a bit out of our scope. and thanks for the invite but I'll pass
18:51<yeetboi_>ok
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22:54<dannyfritz>Is there a Debian PPA for Firefox Nightly somewhere I'm not finding?
22:56<dannyfritz>oh wait, i think i found one: https://github.com/Vitexus/FirefoxNightlyDeb
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23:08<craigevil>just download it from Mozilla, Do Not use a PPA
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23:25<_Seven_>i know tongue fu
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