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| 00:04 | <FelixActually> | I'm surprised to see in the Debian 11 release notes that it ships with KDE Plasma 5.20. I thought that wasn't going to be possible for this release? |
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| 01:15 | <Guest454> | Hi has anyone installed Debian on HP Laptop 15s-2044TU? |
| 01:16 | <anix> | do you have a problem specific to that laptop? |
| 01:18 | <Guest454> | Trying to install Debian. It uses RST and has TPM. Have not found a way to change AHCI yet. |
| 01:20 | <anix> | are you installing via debinstaller? debootstrap? |
| 01:20 | <Guest454> | Install by USB. Debian backported version 11. |
| 01:21 | <anix> | so debinstaller? |
| 01:21 | <Guest454> | debinstaller |
| 01:22 | <anix> | where is it failing? |
| 01:22 | <anix> | what stage? |
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| 01:24 | <Guest454> | To my understanding, the HardDrive is not available to the installer until access protocole is changed to AHCI. It does not see the USB installer. I have managed install Ubuntu, however, I am an avid fan of Debain |
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| 01:26 | <anix> | have you set drive access to AHCI in your bios? |
| 01:28 | <Guest454> | I have not set to AHCI. Google searches suggest that AHCI is not installed and needs to installed via Windows. However, Windows system shos that AHCI is accessable. |
| 01:29 | <Guest454> | The selection to AHCI option is not available in UEFI. |
| 01:30 | <anix> | ah, and are you using UEFI or legacy BIOS? |
| 01:30 | <Guest454> | I am using UEFI - modern PC. |
| 01:31 | <anix> | why not switch to legacy? |
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| 01:32 | <Guest454> | I will look a see if I can switch to legacy. |
| 01:32 | <anix> | if you use legacy, apparently you can set AHCI in the grub2 configuration |
| 01:33 | <anix> | which happens after the BIOS and before the kernel gets loaded |
| 01:34 | <Guest454> | Does not seem to be an option to switch to legacy BIOS. |
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| 01:35 | <anix> | you went through all the options in your bios? |
| 01:36 | <Guest454> | Very few options in the modern BIOS. |
| 01:40 | <anix> | are you in BIOS now? can you go to "system configuration" menu? |
| 01:41 | <Guest454> | Configuration menu shows: |
| 01:41 | <anix> | do you see option "legacy support"? |
| 01:42 | <Guest454> | No legacy support option |
| 01:42 | <anix> | not cool HP... |
| 01:43 | <Guest454> | Very Windows centric. |
| 01:46 | <Guest454> | Thanks for your help. I will keep searching for an answer to this. I may need to install AHCI in Windows. |
| 01:49 | <anix> | you could try disabling secure boot? and see if the legacy support option appears? |
| 01:50 | <anix> | I think AHCI is at the microcontroller level, not OS |
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| 01:52 | <Guest454> | Unfortunately, Windows is married with UEFI now and we need Window to uninstall Windows. |
| 01:52 | <dkjii> | When I touch /.autorelabel, it relabels my home directories as user system_u, is there a way to fix it so it labels them like restorecon does? e.g. staff_u |
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| 03:27 | <grummund> | Is it legit that 'apt upgrade' can edit /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf ? |
| 03:29 | * | grummund has this symlinked to elsewhere, it looks like the upgrade breaks the symlink and edits the value of 'dc_hide_mailname' in that file. |
| 03:30 | <grummund> | any way to stop it doing this, or at least not break the symlink? |
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| 03:39 | <anix> | sometimes debian does use /etc/ for it's own package configs, when the upstream doesn't have any concept of "package" _and_ local system admin (i.e /etc/) config files |
| 03:39 | <anix> | so is it "legit" - not really. Does debian do it? yes |
| 03:40 | <anix> | per the principal of "minimal impact" |
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| 03:41 | <grummund> | the package upgrade makes an edit to that file without asking |
| 03:44 | <anix> | can you put your customisations in another file that the package maintainers don't interfere with? |
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| 03:45 | <anix> | or you could try setting the extended attribute of the file behind the symlink to immutable |
| 03:46 | <grummund> | aiui, that is the file intended (by the package maintainer) for the admin to configure the package. |
| 03:47 | <grummund> | i have annotated it with comments and these were left intact, i.e. it was not simply overwritten. |
| 03:47 | <anix> | why is it called "update-exim4.conf" ? and not just exim4.conf? |
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| 03:48 | <grummund> | it's called update-exim4.conf.conf ;-) |
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| 03:49 | <anix> | Im off, good luck |
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| 03:58 | <FelixActually> | libldb1/stable 2:1.5.1+really1.4.6-3+deb10u1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2:1.5.1+really1.4.6-3] ← What's with the "really" in the version number? |
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| 05:13 | <_0> | hello there! |
| 05:14 | <_0> | i can't run "optirun steam", i have 2 gpus... |
| 05:14 | <_0> | any ideas? |
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| 05:23 | <towo`> | "i can't" is nor an error message |
| 05:24 | <towo`> | *not |
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| 05:30 | <_0> | towo`, https://pastebin.com/RHWkGeT4 |
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| 05:33 | <colinmccn> | have debian 10.9 to upgrade bullseye |
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| 05:34 | <grove> | Questions about bullseye are better asked in #debian-mext |
| 05:34 | <colinmccn> | can write in console apt full-upgrade |
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| 05:34 | <colinmccn> | ok |
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| 05:51 | <marco> | hello |
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| 06:05 | <_0> | i installed primus via backports and it's broken, good solution! optirun glxgears |
| 06:05 | <_0> | [ 241.491251] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) Unable to locate/open config directory: "/etc/bumblebee/xorg.conf.d" |
| 06:05 | <_0> | [ 241.491287] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled. |
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| 06:13 | <r4fkramer> | Hi all, please, I'm trying to fix this issue since yesterday, but it continues: https://paste.debian.net/1192184/ |
| 06:15 | <r4fkramer> | At first, 'systemctl status' showed debian 'active' and 'running' (green flag). After trying to restart apache, even the initial gree flag became 'red' with status 'degraded' - Using debian buster 10.9 here |
| 06:15 | <andibmu> | 3~3~ |
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| 06:25 | <r4fkramer> | Directory /var/log/apache2/ shows: root@debian:/var/log/apache2# ls -> access.log error.log other_vhosts_access.log |
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| 06:31 | <enyc> | I'm trying to chase down straggling package/update issue .... |
| 06:31 | <enyc> | https://packages.debian.org/buster-backports/linux-headers-amd64 shows ver 5.10.19-1~bpo10+1 |
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| 06:32 | <enyc> | http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/buster-backports/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz however, apparently updated 01-Apr-2021 07:57 i.e. weeks after 5.10.19... version released to buster-backports, only seems to have "Package: linux-headers-amd64" "Version: 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1" |
| 06:32 | <enyc> | i.e. outdated data getting into ftp.uk.debian.org ... |
| 06:34 | <enyc> | same on ftp.de. .... |
| 06:35 | <enyc> | Is there something affected by aspects of freeze that isn't updating all the way through, or something? definitely finding some systems with -t buster-backports linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 are only automatically getting the .bpo.3. kernel! |
| 06:36 | <enyc> | ii linux-headers-amd64 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1 amd64 Header files for Linux amd64 configuration (meta-package) |
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| 06:39 | <_0> | still waiting for solution my steam problem |
| 06:39 | <enyc> | double-checked what I can, relatively convinced something stuck inside debian infrastructure, maybe salsa-changes or freeze relate [?] |
| 06:40 | <joeDoh> | for a couple weeks now, I'll lose connectivity of my bluetooth mouse and keyboard, like now. If I open blueman-manager, I can't reconnect the keyboard or mouse. Does something need restarting or something like that? |
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| 06:57 | <graytron> | joeDoh: do you have AMD B550 or X570 chipset? |
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| 07:00 | <joeDoh> | graytron: no, it's an intel laptop |
| 07:00 | <graytron> | joeDoh: no clue then, sorry. those two chipsets have some firmware issues |
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| 07:06 | <r4fkramer> | Hi all, please, I'm trying to fix this issue since yesterday, but it continues: https://paste.debian.net/1192184/ |
| 07:06 | <r4fkramer> | At first, 'systemctl status' showed debian 'active' and 'running' (green flag). After trying to restart apache, even the initial gree flag became 'red' with status 'degraded' - Using debian buster 10.9 here |
| 07:06 | <r4fkramer> | Directory /var/log/apache2/ shows: root@debian:/var/log/apache2# ls -> access.log error.log other_vhosts_access.log |
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| 08:50 | <fred1m> | r4fkramer: with `ls -rtlh /var/log/apac*` do you see ownership issues (www-data) ? |
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| 08:51 | <r4fkramer> | Hi all, please, I'm running Debian on a physical machine, and I noticed something strange: when I start the OS with Kernel 5.10.0-0.bpo.3-amd64, the apache service does not start - the output of the 'systemctl command status' is' debian degraded ' |
| 08:52 | <r4fkramer> | with the stable Kernel 4.19, which comes standard in the installation, the status is 'active - running' and the apache service |
| 08:52 | <r4fkramer> | 'systemctl status apache2.service' is active (green flag). |
| 08:53 | <r4fkramer> | With Kernel 5.10, this same service is 'failed' (red flag). Does anyone know why this occurs? |
| 08:53 | <r4fkramer> | a line most used unnecessarily. sorry |
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| 09:19 | <grawity> | r4fkramer: what's the reported exit status code of the service? anything you see in journalctl -b about it? |
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| 09:26 | <r4fkramer> | Hi grawity, thank you for answering: here you are, the line 1389: Apr 03 12:28:31 debian systemd[1]: Failed to start The Apache HTTP Server. |
| 09:27 | <r4fkramer> | Sorry for answering you late; I was busy here |
| 09:27 | <grawity> | do you have a status code in systemctl's main status area (e.g. "exited 123/FOO")? |
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| 09:30 | <r4fkramer> | Please, grawity, see if it's about what you are asking me: https://paste.debian.net/1192197/ |
| 09:31 | <grawity> | hmm okay so it was fine with the .service settings and went as far as starting apachectl itself |
| 09:31 | <grawity> | is there anything more to the right of the "Cannot access directory"? |
| 09:32 | <grawity> | can't see how this could be caused by the difference in kernels, yet |
| 09:35 | <salman> | my rhythmbox have trouble when im open soundcloud and search the some music.. when im press search button, rhythmbox is close |
| 09:41 | <r4fkramer> | grawity, I had some situations that informed 'cannot access directory'; I created directory /var/log/apache2/ again, and used restart command: apachectl restart |
| 09:42 | <r4fkramer> | at first, I just created this directory, and apache was ok, active and running; but after rebooting the other day (yesterday) the issue was back |
| 09:42 | <r4fkramer> | even using restart command, issue persisted. |
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| 09:47 | <r4fkramer> | grawity, please, have a look on these outputs: https://paste.debian.net/1192200/ |
| 09:47 | <r4fkramer> | Please, ignore some passages not in english. |
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| 09:52 | <grawity> | if you're copying from terminal, then I guess --no-pager or SYSTEMD_PAGER=cat would be useful to set, so to avoid the lines being truncated on the right |
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| 09:52 | <r4fkramer> | I copied from pluma. But thanks for suggestion |
| 09:53 | <r4fkramer> | You refer about status=FAILU... I suppose. |
| 09:55 | <r4fkramer> | grawity, have you experienced this king of issue before, related to apache service / |
| 09:55 | <grawity> | that too, but more importantly the "Cannot access" lines and the rest |
| 09:55 | <grawity> | also I see you're running selinux or apparmor or similar, does it log anything in dmesg related to apache's files? |
| 09:56 | <r4fkramer> | selinux is installed here, but not active - it's 'permisse' status, not 'enforcing' |
| 09:57 | <r4fkramer> | I didn't see any line related to apache files, not yet |
| 10:00 | <r4fkramer> | 'permissive' |
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| 10:12 | <jhutchins> | r4fkramer: The simple solution seems to be use the older kernel. |
| 10:12 | <jhutchins> | ,kernels |
| 10:12 | <judd> | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 5.10.0-trunk-686 (5.10.2-1~exp1); sid: 5.10.0-5-686 (5.10.26-1); bullseye: 5.10.0-5-686 (5.10.24-1); buster-backports: 5.10.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (5.10.19-1~bpo10+1); buster: 4.19.0-16-686-pae (4.19.181-1); stretch-backports: 4.19.0-0.bpo.9-686-pae (4.19.118-2+deb10u1~bpo9+1); stretch: 4.19.0-0.bpo.16-686 (4.19.181-1~deb9u1); jessie-backports: |
| 10:13 | <judd> | 4.9.0-0.bpo.6-686-pae (4.9.88-1+deb9u1~bpo8+1); jessie: 4.9.0-0.bpo.12-686 (4.9.210-1+deb9u1~deb8u1) |
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| 10:15 | <r4fkramer> | Hi jhutchins, thanks for answering. I told about that to grawity. I have other debian installation in virt-manager (it's installed in this debian). It's only running with 4.19 kernel, and status is ok for apache service. |
| 10:15 | <r4fkramer> | I will perform a test, installing 5.10 on it. If the same issue occurs with this virtual installation, so there is any issue related to kernel 5.10 for apache service. |
| 10:15 | <grawity> | jhutchins: I believe that's called a "temporary workaround" |
| 10:16 | <r4fkramer> | And what is "temporary workaround" for this case ? |
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| 10:21 | <r4fkramer> | Now, there is this output when I use 'apachectl restart': (2)No such file or directory: AH02291: Cannot access directory '/var/log/apache2/' for main error log |
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| 10:21 | <r4fkramer> | But I created and recreated this directory tons of times.... |
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| 10:23 | <jhutchins> | grawity: Well, it depends whether it's more important to have the service running or to figure out what the new kernel is breaking and how. |
| 10:23 | <jhutchins> | Both are valid goals. |
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| 10:24 | <grawity> | it doesn't depend -- even if it avoids the immediate problem, it's still a temporary workaround no matter what, because sooner or later you'll have to upgrade the thing |
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| 10:26 | <r4fkramer> | Well, quite tired here, and 36 hours and a half without sleeping. I must go now, unfortunately without a complete solution for this case. Thank you grawity and jhutchins for help and assistance. |
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| 10:51 | <Lana> | hi there |
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| 10:51 | <mdja123cs> | hello. Is there a guide on how to install on a usb? |
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| 11:00 | <david77-deb10> | If you want to install debian on a usb hdd is not enough during installation choose a USB disk partition? |
| 11:02 | <Sqrt{not}> | mdja123cs, do you mean the installer is on the usb, or the finished installed system is on the usb? |
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| 11:05 | <mdja123cs> | Second one |
| 11:05 | <mdja123cs> | @Sqrt{not} |
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| 11:10 | <mdja123cs> | I think I figured it out |
| 11:11 | <david77-deb10> | have you select in Partitioning installation the USB drive? |
| 11:13 | <mdja123cs> | what do you mean? |
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| 11:16 | <david77-deb10> | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apbs04.en.html#preseed-partman -> select for installation USB drive? or simple USB flash pendrive with persistent (i think it won't last long the pendrive)? |
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| 11:17 | <mdja123cs> | "simple USB flash pendrive" |
| 11:17 | <mdja123cs> | I want to test it first before installing it fully |
| 11:18 | <david77-deb10> | you can test debian il live CD (or live usb) without install. wait i found it |
| 11:19 | <david77-deb10> | https://wiki.debian.org/LiveCD |
| 11:19 | <david77-deb10> | https://wiki.debian.org/Keydrive |
| 11:20 | <david77-deb10> | "A Live CD is a distribution (that contains as much software as possible) stored on a bootable CD-ROM that can be executed from it, without installation on a hard drive. Nothing is installed, and the system returns to its previous OS once you pop the Live CD out" |
| 11:20 | <david77-deb10> | or USB flash drive |
| 11:21 | <mdja123cs> | I used rufus and flashed it to the usb. Is that how it's meant to be done? |
| 11:21 | <mdja123cs> | the iso file |
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| 11:22 | <Sqrt{not}> | mdja123cs, if you use rufus, you MUST select the "DD" option just before writing |
| 11:22 | <Sqrt{not}> | mdja123cs, if you use default ISO option, the usb will not work correctly |
| 11:22 | <mdja123cs> | Yes that's what i figured out |
| 11:23 | <mdja123cs> | will try again |
| 11:23 | <Sqrt{not}> | there are good live images at: https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.9.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 11:23 | <david77-deb10> | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstall#Creating_a_Bootable_Debian_USB_Flashdrive |
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| 11:29 | * | Sqrt{not} updated that wiki page to include rufus writing mode warning |
| 11:32 | <david77-deb10> | in wiki page: "To create a bootable USB drive from Microsoft Windows or Mac OS a reliable choice is Rufus" but non "DD" options |
| 11:32 | <Sqrt{not}> | what? |
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| 11:33 | <david77-deb10> | look https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstall#Creating_a_Bootable_Debian_USB_Flashdrive -> Rufus |
| 11:33 | <Sqrt{not}> | yes, as I said, I just edited that. it does not look like what you wrote |
| 11:34 | <Sqrt{not}> | DD __is__ the correct option for rufus. |
| 11:34 | <david77-deb10> | sorry.... english is not my language |
| 11:34 | <david77-deb10> | :-( |
| 11:35 | <david77-deb10> | i wanted to say that there is no choice of dd |
| 11:36 | <david77-deb10> | in wiki page |
| 11:36 | <Sqrt{not}> | It is offered only when you are ready to write the image to media. just before writing, it will have option for DD or ISO mode. |
| 11:38 | <Sqrt{not}> | I think you can also change the default back-and-forth between those 2 options by pressing some key (I think alt-I, but I could be remembering wrong) anytime before writing |
| 11:38 | <david77-deb10> | i dont'use win or mac. i use only - dd if=<file> of=<device> bs=4M; sync |
| 11:38 | <Sqrt{not}> | david77-deb10, yes, very good. |
| 11:38 | <david77-deb10> | i know. https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb |
| 11:39 | <Sqrt{not}> | I have access to a dual-boot windows/linux laptop, and I borrowed it and tested rufus some time ago. |
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| 11:39 | <Sqrt{not}> | yes, win32diskimager is recommended. |
| 11:40 | <david77-deb10> | aaaaah ok. i use win only for child game |
| 11:40 | <david77-deb10> | :-) |
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| 11:40 | <mdja123cs> | So I booted from the disk but it only asked me to install it, not try. |
| 11:41 | <Sqrt{not}> | what is the name of the iso file you copied to the USB ? |
| 11:41 | <mdja123cs> | debian-10.9.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 11:41 | <mdja123cs> | I also got an error about missing firmware. Where am I supposed to get these? |
| 11:41 | <david77-deb10> | no this is only for install |
| 11:42 | <Sqrt{not}> | that is an installer image. see the URL I wrote above |
| 11:42 | <Sqrt{not}> | there are good live images at: https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/10.9.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 11:42 | <mdja123cs> | sorry. I missed that |
| 11:43 | <david77-deb10> | [17:23:16] <Sqrt{not}> |
| 11:43 | <Sqrt{not}> | the "non-free" images include firmware |
| 11:44 | <david77-deb10> | and for my problem with the exfat bug, of yesterday, I can't do anything? :-( |
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| 11:45 | <david77-deb10> | https://github.com/exfatprogs/exfatprogs/issues/117 |
| 11:45 | <mdja123cs> | Do I then use this iso instead in rufus: debian-live-10.9.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso |
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| 11:46 | <david77-deb10> | 64 bit CPU yes? |
| 11:46 | <mdja123cs> | yes |
| 11:46 | <Sqrt{not}> | yes |
| 11:47 | <david77-deb10> | ok. i like lxde :-) |
| 11:47 | <david77-deb10> | debian-live-10.9.0-amd64-lxde+nonfree.iso |
| 11:47 | <Sqrt{not}> | yes, that is a good file |
| 11:47 | <mdja123cs> | whats the difference? |
| 11:47 | <Sqrt{not}> | either lxde or xfce or whatever, those are good files |
| 11:48 | <david77-deb10> | gustibus |
| 11:48 | <Sqrt{not}> | they are choices of Desktop Environments. The closest to windows is probably gnome |
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| 11:49 | <david77-deb10> | p.s. the new lxde is lxqt - https://wiki.debian.org/LXDE and https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce |
| 11:50 | <david77-deb10> | https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 11:50 | <david77-deb10> | etc etc |
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| 11:50 | <mdja123cs> | Is it possible to change afterwards or do i have to do the whole process again? |
| 11:51 | <david77-deb10> | yes tou cam installa another DE |
| 11:51 | <david77-deb10> | *you |
| 11:51 | <david77-deb10> | ....aaargh yoy can install another DE |
| 11:51 | <Sqrt{not}> | mdja123cs, the live ISO image will have one version only |
| 11:52 | <Sqrt{not}> | when you permanently install, you choose which one you want. |
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| 11:52 | <david77-deb10> | yes only when install system sorry |
| 11:52 | <mdja123cs> | I see. |
| 11:52 | <Sqrt{not}> | if you want to try another version, you get the other live ISO |
| 11:52 | <Sqrt{not}> | here, dpkg can give you a link: |
| 11:52 | <Sqrt{not}> | !wm |
| 11:52 | <dpkg> | A window manager is a special application class which decorates and manages windows for the X server. To list available window managers in your system, run «apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager». Not to be confused with a desktop environment such as <GNOME> or <KDE>. To set your system-wide default window manager, use «update-alternatives --config x-window-manager». For a guide to available window managers, see http://xwinman.org/ |
| 11:53 | <mdja123cs> | the link gives me an error on firefox |
| 11:53 | <mdja123cs> | I guess because it's http? |
| 11:54 | <Sqrt{not}> | dunno, works for me in linux firefox |
| 11:54 | <richard_h> | hmm. I'm doing a stretch->buster upgrade. Starting with apt-get upgrade. One notable package (the purpose of the system, redmine) is not listed as held back, but also not listed as to be upgraded. Is that normal? |
| 11:54 | <richard_h> | the buster version is definitely newer than the stretch version. |
| 11:55 | <Sqrt{not}> | dpkg, stretch->buster |
| 11:55 | <dpkg> | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/JFKc . TL;DR: In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "stretch" to "buster", remove lines like stretch-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party repos as they are known to cause issues then do: apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade |
| 11:55 | <richard_h> | I've never really looked carefully at those lists before, but as I say redmine is significant in this case |
| 11:56 | <Sqrt{not}> | richard_h, you might not see the major version until you do the full-upgrade |
| 11:56 | <richard_h> | I'm curious as to why not |
| 11:57 | <Sqrt{not}> | I'm not expert about it either. here is more dpkg wisdom: |
| 11:58 | <Sqrt{not}> | !full-upgrade |
| 11:58 | <dpkg> | full-upgrade is the new name for "dist-upgrade" in aptitude from Lenny onwards. Remember that "dist-upgrade" is not about moving from one release to another but installing new packages (ask me about <dist-upgrade>); read man apt-get carefully. Some security fixes will require a "full-upgrade" not just a "safe-upgrade" to apply. Ask me about <why not dist upgrade> <dist-upgrade> <safe-upgrade> <apt-listchanges> |
| 11:58 | <richard_h> | I'm following the release notes, btw - it actually says "apt-get upgrade", not "apt upgrade" for the middle step :-) |
| 11:58 | <Sqrt{not}> | heh, that dpkg factoid throws in "aptitude" just to muddy your waters futher |
| 11:58 | <richard_h> | Anyway - I'll go ahead and see what happens :-) |
| 11:59 | <richard_h> | I use aptitude normally; just not when following the release notes :-) |
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| 12:01 | <mdja123cs> | I'm just curious. Is the firmware non-free because intel refuses to allow a free version to exist (like nvidia) |
| 12:02 | <mdja123cs> | the firmware seems to be the wifi card which is intel |
| 12:02 | <Sqrt{not}> | it's "non-free" because the source code is not published |
| 12:03 | <richard_h> | mdja123cs: I believe so. Though there may also be issues with restricting use of channels in different jurisdictions that complicate releasing the source. |
| 12:03 | <Sqrt{not}> | many companies, not just intel and nvidia, release binary-only firmware |
| 12:03 | <richard_h> | (for wifi) |
| 12:04 | <Mister00X> | (also for graphics) |
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| 12:11 | <richard_h> | ah. It wants to _remove_ redmine, that's why ... |
| 12:12 | <richard_h> | now to figure out why ... |
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| 12:13 | <richard_h> | oh, it's not in buster - but it is in buster-backports |
| 12:13 | <richard_h> | this gets uglier ... |
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| 14:46 | <jhutchins> | The reason a lot of wifi requires binary firmware is because the manufacturers need to keep the card compliant with national regulations of power and frequency. |
| 14:46 | <jhutchins> | They fear that if people had access to tinker with those, they probably would. |
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| 15:35 | <david77-deb10> | https://www.raspberrypi.org/software/raspberry-pi-desktop/ is for this channel or #debian-raspberrypi ? |
| 15:35 | <bartm> | no idea, but it looks like not for here |
| 15:35 | <Mister00X> | !raspberry |
| 15:35 | <dpkg> | The Raspberry Pi is based on a Broadcom system-on-a-chip, requiring <non-free> <firmware>. Debian's <armel> port works fine, but does not use the Pi's hardware floating point unit. Debian's <armhf> port targets a newer revision of the ARM chip than is in the Pi, so armhf will not work on it. http://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi http://www.raspberrypi.org/ #debian-raspberrypi on OFTC #raspberrypi on irc.freenode.net. |
| 15:37 | <Mister00X> | or |
| 15:37 | <Mister00X> | !raspbian |
| 15:37 | <dpkg> | Raspberry Pi OS (previously called Raspbian) is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian (or #raspberrypi) on irc.freenode.net for support. https://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 15:38 | <jmatos> | !frankendebian |
| 15:38 | <dpkg> | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. Ask me about <reinstall> |
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| 15:39 | <jmatos> | or maybe |
| 15:40 | <jmatos> | !derivative |
| 15:40 | <dpkg> | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 15:42 | <jmatos> | !derivative |
| 15:42 | <dpkg> | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 15:42 | <jmatos> | david77-deb10: ^ offtopic both here and in #debian-raspberrypi, sorry |
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| 15:44 | <david77-deb10> | "[21:24:41] <jmatos> If you were using actual Debian, you could go ask on #debian or #debian-next" .... ? |
| 15:45 | <jmatos> | Yes, but you're using a derivative. |
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| 15:49 | <david77-deb10> | jmatos In your opinion then there would be no irc channel for https://www.raspberrypi.org/software/raspberry-pi-desktop/? |
| 15:50 | <jmatos> | there's a forum |
| 15:51 | <jmcnaught> | david77-deb10: there's #raspbian and #raspberrypi on irc.freenode.net |
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| 16:25 | <Sqrt{not}> | also #debian-raspberrypi on this network |
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| 16:28 | <david77-deb10> | Sqrt{not} "[21:42:32] <jmatos> david77-deb10: ^ offtopic both here and in #debian-raspberrypi, sorry" :-( |
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| 16:31 | <david77-deb10> | but for my pendrive (extfat bug) is "pure debian buster" ;-) |
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| 16:40 | <Sqrt{not}> | OK |
| 16:40 | <jmcnaught> | david77-deb10: https://raspi.debian.net/ has Debian images for Raspberry Pi computers |
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| 16:50 | <david77-deb10> | tnx |
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| 18:12 | <Edward> | hola |
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| 18:13 | <Sqrt{not}> | adios |
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| 18:39 | <segamain> | Not an AI :( |
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| 20:10 | <joeDoh> | Recently i periodically lose bluetooth connections all at once. All of sudden no sound, no keyboard no mouse. systemctl status bluetooth says enable active and running, but I have no connected devices. restarting bluetooth with systemctl doesn't bring anything back. What else should I check? |
| 20:17 | <joeDoh> | for example, when I woke up, nothing bluetooth worked, and now, I've lost all connections again. I'm not sure what needs starting |
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| 20:18 | <joeDoh> | ps shows bluetoothd obexd and blueman-applet as the only processes with blue in the name |
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| 20:25 | <Sqrt{not}> | joeDoh, I suggest looking in journalctl, in /var/log/messages, in dmesg output |
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| 20:39 | <joeDoh> | Sqrt{not}: I don't see anything about bluetooth in any of those that identifies the end of the connections. After I try restarting bluetooth with systemd, there are some errors. Hard to cut and paste without a mouse though |
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| 20:42 | <joeDoh> | like dmesg tells me "hci0: command 0xfc3f tx timeout", "hci0: link tx timeout", "killing stalled connection xx:aa:yy:zz:cc:bb", "setting interface failed (110)", "command 0x0c52 tx timeout", "command 0x0c13 tx timeout" |
| 20:46 | <joeDoh> | /var/log/messages, after I try to restart tells me "bluez5: NAP: removed interface blah" then the same interface is added, then "org.lueman.Mechanism[902]: unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused" and another about a gtk theme get haveing failed |
| 20:50 | <joeDoh> | journalctl is even harder to transcribe by hand. I see some of the same stuff about hci0 tx timeouts and killing stalled connections. Starting SDP server, management interface initialised then "Sap driver initialization failed." |
| 20:51 | <joeDoh> | Sqrt{not}: this morning I rebooted to get bluetooth back. I'm going to try just ending X and restarting a session to see if it comes back somehow |
| 20:52 | <Sqrt{not}> | joeDoh, my only other observation is, it might be a radio problem, from the tx timeouts. do all the gadgets have good batteries in them? |
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| 20:56 | <joeDoh> | Sqrt{not}: I have no real way of knowing. The headphones are less than 2 months old, so their battery should be good, and it is charged nearly full at the moment. The kbd is older than the headset but still too new to be a problem I think. And I recently changed the battery in the mouse (which is supposed to be able to last a year on a battery) |
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| 20:58 | <Sqrt{not}> | OK, that sounds good. can you try them one at a time, to see if any work OK or don't work at all, when used alone? |
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| 21:27 | <joeDoh> | Sqrt{not}: yes, that sounds like a good strategy. I'm wondering though, if it might even be the radio in the computer that is failing. Logging out and back in didn't fix it. Rebooting didn't fix this time, like it did this morning. I shutdown, and walked to the kitchen for a couple minutes before starting the computer. BT is back now, but because it didn't work on firest try, I wonder if |
| 21:27 | <joeDoh> | its that radio. it's an x240, so a bit oldish |
| 21:31 | <joeDoh> | any hardware fangirls or fanboys that know if BT is something that might fail after a few years like usb frequently does? |
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