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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-04-12

---Logopened Mon Apr 12 00:00:50 2021
---Daychanged Mon Apr 12 2021
00:00-!-voyager1 [~voyager1@0002a22b.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:00-!-voyager1 is "user" on #debian
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00:03-!-simonpatapon is "Simon Patapon" on #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
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00:10-!-ax5623 is "+" on #linux #debian-next #debian
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00:10-!-olsren is "renols" on #debian
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00:11-!-scrdcow_ is "scrdcow" on #debian
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00:11-!-edcragg6 is "Ed Cragg" on #debian #url-bot-rs-status #url-bot-rs
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00:11-!-nerkdesign285038638 is "nerkdesign" on #debian
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00:12-!-medicalwei_ is "Yao Wei" on #debian-c3 #debian #lxde
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00:12-!-smashgra_ is "Debian Stable" on #debian #debian-next
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00:12-!-einyx- is "PID1" on #own3d #darknet #security #debian-students #ganja #SwitchHack #debian #hackers #freedombox # #guardianproject #oftc
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00:12-!-carnil__ is "Salvatore Bonaccorso" on #debian-next #debian-perl #debian-devel-changes #debian
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00:12-!-friki- is "friki" on #salsaci #packaging #debian-remote #debian-raspberrypi #debian-privacy #debian-php #debian-next #debian-blends #debian #communitydata-covid19
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00:12-!-Tempesta_ is "ChoiKyuSang" on #debian
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00:13-!-xebulun is "Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that co" on #debian
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00:13-!-Zachary_DuBois is "Zachary DuBois" on #virt #qemu #oftc #linode #debian #ceph
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00:13-!-^Q-Master^ is "Vladimir Berezenko" on #debian-next #debian
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00:14-!-hugoShaka is "hugoShaka <hugo@shaka.xyz>" on #debian
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00:14-!-freem_ is "Freem" on #debian #kernelnewbies
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00:14-!-dboehmer__ is "Daniel Böhmer,,," on #debian
00:14-!-larjona_ is "Laura Arjona Reina" on #debian-mozext #backchannel #debian #debian-games #minidebconf-online #debian-l10n-spanish #debian-madrid #debian-next #mini-DebConf-fr #debian-lts #SunCamp16 #debian-devel-es #debian-gnupg #debian-blm #debian-es #boothkit #meetbot #debian-fediverse #debian-academy #debian-social #debian-nonupload #debian-a11y #debian-dpp #dpp
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00:14-!-jm_ is "." on #debian
00:15-!-Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> helix.oftc.net quits: ghormoon, scrdcow, \_o{, kart_, JasonO, ket, Spitfire, freem, larjona, heretical_cryptek[m], (+64 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them)
00:15-!-edcragg6 is now known as edcragg
00:15-!-nerkdesign285038638 is now known as nerkdesign28503863
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00:15-!-przemoc86 [~przemoc@89-72-24-4.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
00:15-!-przemoc86 is "Przemyslaw Pawelczyk" on #debian-next #qemu #debian
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00:15-!-nosliot is "zumbi" on #debian #spi #cdbs #emdebian #debian-mx #debian-ni #debian-gt #debian-bcn2014 #salsaci #debian-next #debian-fundraising #debian-es #debian-rant #debian-piuparts
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00:45-!-simeons is "realname" on #debian
00:45<simeons>hola
00:45<simeons>hello word
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00:49-!-alpernebbi is "Alper Nebi Yasak" on #debian-next #debian
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00:54-!-towo^work is "Torsten -towo- Wohlfarth" on #kernelnewbies #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #aptosid
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01:12-!-diogenes_oftc is "Nicolas" on #debian
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02:04-!-cpaelzer is "Christian Ehrhardt" on #qemu #virt #debian-qemu #debian
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02:19-!-dandersson is "Daniel Andersson" on #debian
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02:22<kali_o>A///msg nickserv op #ddebian
02:24*enyc meows
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03:42-!-texou is "Stoicien" on #debian-nonupload #debian-i18n #bitlbee #debian-next #debian #debian-es #debian-devel-es #debian-devel-it #debian-l10n-fr #debian-a11y
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05:55<aidalgol>Do I need to do something special to make Ruby documentation available through ri(1)?
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05:58<aidalgol>Ah, even though it is available without the 'ri' package installed, you need to install that package for it to work as expected.
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07:20<sij>Hi! I have a problem with my installation on an "old" HP Probook 6550b laptop. Namely, pwmconfig generates on entries for the fan PWM control. I'd like to keep the fan always on because of overheating, but don't want to cut the PWM wire (: It _can_ be controlled by software however, as during cryptsetup when unlocking my encrypted drive during boot, the fans are constantly spinning at 100%, but
07:20<sij>they soon after start to get controlled according to the temperature once I enter the password.
07:20<sij>Any ideas?
07:21<sij>s/pwmconfig generates on entries/pwmconfig generates no entries/
07:22<sij>Could it be that the BIOS gets some signal after boot that makes it switch state from always-on to temperature-controlled?
07:24<sij>I did reapply thermal paste and everything, I am just cursing at HP for not providing PWM control over fans.
07:24<jm_>pwmconfig requires working fan sensors - does sensors report them?
07:25<sij>Just a moment, let me check.
07:25<sij>Is it possible to write raw PWM values to some /sys/ file?
07:26<sij>/sys/class/pwm contains no files, sensors only repors ACPI interface for temperature sensors and coretemp interface from ISA adapter for another temperature sensor.
07:27<sij>pwmconfig reports that "There are not pwm-capable sensor modules installed"
07:29<jm_>does sensors-detect detect anything? and yes, you can write PWM values, that's what fancontrol script does
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07:30<sij>Nope, only thermal sensors.
07:30<jm_>but your system needs to support it, i.e. set it to manual in BIOS, not auto
07:30<jm_>then I don't think fancontrol will work for you
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07:32<sij>Yes, there is a BIOS option for "fan always on while on AC power", though it does not change anything, I'll look for manual/auto config.
07:33<jm_>as a side note, I have to boot my systems with asus motherboard with «acpi_enforce_resources=lax» kernel option for sensors-detect to be able to find anything
07:33<jm_>otherwise it only shows some useless acpi values (though this is not a laptop)
07:34<sij>Thanks, I'll try that.
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07:44<sij>While probing around I also noticed that /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/cooling_device2 is actually my display backlight! Not sure how to use it for cooling though.
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07:51<vertuxt>sij: lower brightness = less power consumtpion = lower heat dissipation from regulators so this could make kinda sense
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07:53<sij>Yeah, it does follow cooling device principles for higher value = more cooling, like intel_powerclamp CPU limiter etc.
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09:11<burrows>how do I set environment variables globally for all users? "/etc/profile.d/custom.sh" only works when I switch away from the x11 tty (ctrl+alt+f1), but it doesn't work when I open a terminal emulator from within x11 (xfce4-terminal)
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09:18<jm_>maybe try pam_env module
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09:24<vertuxt>burrows: you might also check /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ (however works only for Xsessions)
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09:27<burrows>vertuxt: I tried ln -s /etc/profile.d/custom.sh /etc/X11/Xsession.d/custom.sh but didn't work after reboot
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09:28<burrows>jm_: pam_env loads /etc/environment and that works, however, /etc/environment.d/custom.conf is ignored
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09:30<vertuxt>burrows: maybe it not executed as the execution is ordered and your link is missing the ordering maybe try 99custom_sh as link target
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09:33<burrows>ty ty ty, vertuxt, that worked perfectly
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10:29<roy01>sup guys
10:30<roy01>I have a question I am just getting started with system programming and I would like to start with some project to level up my skills
10:30<roy01>any recommendations please
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10:47<scorpion2185[m]>Is Debian sid version of anthy newer than 9100h?
10:47<Sqrt{not}>,v anthy
10:47<judd>Package: anthy on amd64 -- jessie: 9100h-24; stretch: 9100h-25+b2; buster: 1:0.3-8.1; bullseye: 1:0.4-2; sid: 1:0.4-2
10:48<scorpion2185[m]>I can't understand if it is newer
10:49<scorpion2185[m]>jhbuild stated required at lest "9100h" found 0.4
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10:53<Sqrt{not}>scorpion2185[m], maybe look at the tracker? https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/anthy
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11:09<TobiX>scorpion2185[m]: It looks like the project restarted development with new version numbering... 9100h is "old" (~10 years) and newer releases used verions 0.2, 0.3, 0.4
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11:52<scorpion2185[m]>So Debian version 0.4 is newer that 9100h, right?
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12:37<TobiX>scorpion2185[m]: Seems like it. Development seems to happen on salsa: https://salsa.debian.org/debian/anthy
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12:39<trench>,v mutt
12:39<judd>Package: mutt on amd64 -- jessie: 1.5.23-3; jessie-security: 1.5.23-3+deb8u3; stretch: 1.7.2-1+deb9u3; stretch-proposed-updates: 1.7.2-1+deb9u3; stretch-security: 1.7.2-1+deb9u3; buster: 1.10.1-2.1+deb10u5; buster-security: 1.10.1-2.1+deb10u5; buster-backports: 2.0.2-1~bpo10+1; bullseye: 2.0.5-4; sid: 2.0.5-4
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12:56<scorpion2185[m]>is a jhbuild bug so?
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14:06<scorpion2185[m]>when bullseye will be stable?
14:06<scorpion2185[m]>should I fill a jhbuild bug?
14:19<Mister00X>!release date
14:19<dpkg>Debian does not release based on dates, it is released when there are no <release critical> bugs. See also <release history>.
14:19<Mister00X>^^ scorpion2185[m]
14:21<scorpion2185[m]>!release date
14:21<dpkg>Debian does not release based on dates, it is released when there are no <release critical> bugs. See also <release history>.
14:22<scorpion2185[m]>Is there an idea of when?
14:22<sney>probably autumn this year
14:22<scorpion2185[m]>IS there someone can help me with jhbuild?
14:23<scorpion2185[m]>*that can
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14:23<sney>it's a gnome specific tool, so probably one of the gnome dev channels would be best: https://wiki.gnome.org/Community/GettingInTouch/IRC
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14:53<lavamind>is it possible to create a thin LVM snapshot of a regular/thick LV ?
14:53<jhutchins>,v jhbuild
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14:59<PaulePanter>I am having troubles with Make and variable assignment: https://github.com/Gaius-Augustus/Augustus/issues/276
15:00<PaulePanter>If it’s off-topic, can you recommend a channel for GNU Make?
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15:10<bremner>##workingset on freenode
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15:17<PaulePanter>bremner: Thank you.
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15:57<user>hi
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15:58<Guest1281>hello?
15:58<bremner>!ask
15:58<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
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16:26*enyc meows
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16:38<Querens>jhutchins: hey :) I've been able to run Debian after all. I couldn't reinstall GRUB or anything like that, but I can boot kernel directly from rEFInd media. Now I can't make keyboard and wifi working. I have some thoughts on wifi. But keyboard... I've pluged in a very simple USB keyboard, but I can't revive the one of macbook.
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17:30<redbrass>struggling with an initramfs issue. My file has a /init file inside the initramfs.img.xz file. When I try to fire up my kernel with that initramfs I'm getting "failed to execute /init (error -2)" followed shortly later by a kernel panic. The file exists and is executable.. So I'm not sure what else to check
17:30<redbrass>the initramfs is unpacked, just can't seem to load the /init file.
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17:31<sarnold>ENOENT 2 No such file or directory
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17:32<sarnold>redbrass: this error can also happen if the executable links against libraries or a loader that doesn't exist in the filesystem
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17:34<redbrass>hmm.. the file exists. We are using busybox, and symlink /bin/sh to /bin/busybox inside the initramfs. However the symlink is a relative thing : /bin/sh -> ./busybox. Could that be the issue? The shell being used may not be loaded and can't load /init.. maybe?
17:35<sarnold>are you trying to use a shell script as your pid 1 init process?
17:39<redbrass>hmm.. no. We are firing up the process with qemu-system-x86_64 -m 4G -kernel ... -initrd ... -nographic -append "console=ttyS0"
17:40<redbrass>so it *should* be a normal boot process - but I'm still learning in this area, so could be wrong.
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17:41<chriss_toni>I need a debian * .ova image for experimental use. over and over again. When I search for it on the Internet, I get dozens of providers of such images. Unfortunately, I cannot find a trustworthy provider and I have to set up my own again. Can I get an answer from where I can get such a * .ova image or should I keep my hands off it?
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17:43<redbrass>chriss_toni: don't know about the .ova images, but if you just want to experiment, using "docker run debian:latest" would fire up a docker image for you without needing a full VM. You could then connect to that image and do whatever you need. (admittedly the commands are not quite that simple)
17:43<redbrass>But that would pull debian from the official source...
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17:47<sarnold>chriss_toni: can you build one from a qcow2?
17:47<sarnold>chriss_toni: https://cloud.debian.org/images/cloud/
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17:54<chriss_toni>I'm only interested in quick availability. nothing more :-) It takes time to create it yourself. but I've heard of qcow2 before. i will look at this now.
17:57<redbrass>chriss_toni: if you have docker setup, the "docker run debian" command would fire up in minutes, if not seconds... but getting that setup and understanding things to that point may take much longer.
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17:58<sney>there is also a distinction between VMs and containers that may or may not be relevant here
17:59<redbrass>sney: agreed. But he mentioned "for experimentation purposes"... kinda implies he just needs a bash prompt inside a fresh debian environment.
18:00<redbrass>mayby. :)
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18:00<chriss_toni>i need it to compile a program like tutanota. However, my skills are not very good and I would like to test it beforehand. therefore I need this * .ova
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18:01<sney>the qemu-img tool can convert qcow2 images to any of these formats, so if you're using vmware or virtualbox, it's simple to get a vdi or vmdk for that. https://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/convert-images.html
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18:02<sney>using docker images to compile applications is an option as well, but does depend on having docker available in the first place
18:02<chriss_toni>i can build it from official but my questian is ansered. "Can I get an answer from where I can get such a * .ova image or should I keep my hands off it?"
18:04<chriss_toni>that is what i need, now. oki
18:04<chriss_toni>qemu-img tool
18:06<redbrass>I'm working with both qemu and docker at the moment, so I'm flipping back and forth between them as convenience dictatates.. :) qemu-img is a good tool for converting images... one of the better ones I've seen.
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19:49<karl-arne>unknkown Interface enp0s25 even when it shows in ip link show
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19:51<sney>if you are using ifupdown, the interface will be unknown until it is defined in /etc/network/interfaces
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20:38<chriss_toni>I have a qcow2 to vmdk virtualbox VM. Whats the login to debian-10-nocloud-amd64-daily...
20:39<chriss_toni>??
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20:55<bremner>chriss_toni: is that a live image or an installer? If it's an installer it will prompt for passwords during installation.
20:56<sney>bremner: it's an image from cloud.debian.org, suggested by sarnold a bit ago
20:56<sney>I'm not seeing the user documented anywhere so I'm guessing it's debian/debian or something like that?
20:57<bremner>https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud#What_is_the_default_login_name_on_the_Debian_AMIs.3F
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21:04<debianheaas>us ?
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21:08<chriss_toni>if i understood that correctly i would have to become a member of the cloud team. That sounds very interesting. But I guess I need another qcow2.
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21:10<chriss_toni>and i tryed "root" and the login is correct...
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