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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-04-13

---Logopened Tue Apr 13 00:00:01 2021
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02:29<nouone>;topic
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02:30-!-etienneme is "Textual User" on #debian #debian-next #ceph #ceph-ansible #ceph-orchestrators #ceph-devel
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02:31<nouone>hey
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02:41-!-JOG is "..." on #debian #mobian
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02:42<nouone>hello
02:42<jm_>!ask
02:42<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
02:42<JOG>what is this room do ?
02:43<nouone>i dont know
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02:43<nouone>hahaha
02:43<jm_>it's support channel for debian
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02:43<JOG>So what is Debian :) lol
02:44<dreamer>https://www.debian.org/
02:44<dreamer>now go away.
02:44<JOG>oh ok:)
02:45<nouone>i want lerarn programming in c
02:45<JOG>amazing group :)
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03:02<nhbaj>!ask
03:02<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:54<RedEagle>when bullseye is expected to land stable? this month?
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05:13<TobiX>RedEagle: When it's ready
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05:20<RedEagle>as expected 😀
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05:50<scorpion2185[m]>https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gsettings-desktop-schemas Standards version of the package is outdated. CAn someone update it to 40?
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07:43<tarzeau>how/where could i fix the icon next to "Introduction" which is lacking transparent background at https://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage ?
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07:45<bremner>scorpion2185[m]: that's not a standards version. In any case, you could file a wishlist bug, although it's really just a housekeeping issue, and should not affect users of Debian
07:46<bremner>scorpion2185[m]: or maybe you meant something else, since "Standards version" means something rather specific in Debian jargon
07:46<themill>tarzeau: use the source, luke: https://wiki.debian.org/Portal/IDB (also #debian-www exists)
07:47<bremner>scorpion2185[m]: if you mean, please update one package to gnome 40, that will happen in due course.
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08:28<node1>Hi, how to use google drive from command line? I would like to import file into google sheet? What to do in debian?
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08:48<Delta-One>node1: You can use "rclone" to upload files from the command line to your Google Drive folder.
08:49<node1>Should not i use rsync to do that? I'm looking for direct approach to import into google sheet via command line
08:50<bremner>it's unlikely that rsync will work
08:50<bremner>thinks like google drive usually implement their own proprietary protocols
08:50<bremner>or at least some web stuff with rsync doesn't speak either
08:58<LeLutin>is there some tool that could tell how each network interface would be named according to systemd's bus ID consistent naming? when installing hosts, it would be kinda fun to be able to have networking configured even though we might not be running the same kernel as the installed system
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08:58<zathras>Is it me or is MS Teams running under Buster plain crashing crap?
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09:12<bremner>I've had OK success with the unofficial client in bullseye
09:13<bremner>I mean, the design is bonkers, but it doesn't crash
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09:15<zathras>On Buster I have a huge resources hog, a blank screen and that is about it
09:15<zathras>so now I hope it will run in qemu/kvm in win10 with host debian buster
09:15<bremner>that seems like even more resources.
09:16<zathras>yep
09:16<bremner>Are you running the official client or teams-for-linux?
09:16<zathras>yes
09:16<bremner>that was not a yes/no question.
09:16<zathras>from MS apt repo. Which claims "stable" should give you a preview version...
09:17<bremner>OK. You could try the unofficial "teams-for-linux" client
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09:17<zathras>apt resource: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
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09:18<zathras>where can I find that one bremmer?
09:18<zathras>euh, bremner. Sorry
09:18<bremner>https://github.com/IsmaelMartinez/teams-for-linux
09:20<zathras>I love the readme: Microsoft is now providing a client that, more or less works.
09:20<zathras>the is more or less true for most MS products
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09:27<abrotman>Teams on Windows isn't exactly a picture of awesome. (you can try the web client also)
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09:29<zathras>the webclient is borked on firefox and has some issues with chrome afaik. So far it did not work for me, but in theory it should partially work with chrome/chromium
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09:31<zathras>iirc there is also an xorg/wayland issue with the app. Where wayland is a no go
09:32<zathras>but that might just be screensharing. I would be fine with conference only
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09:37<themill>(the official client, the webclient with firefox and the webclient with chromium all work just fine here)
09:40<bremner>fwiw, this changes from day to day for me. There was a dark time in january where nothing worked for screensharing
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09:52<zathras>ok. thanks. good to know. I will have a go in a few hours. Thanks
09:53<zathras>I assume plugins play a role here as well
09:53<zathras>(with the webclient)
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09:53<bremner>I don't think so. At least not that I experienced in chromium. These days chromium embeds the world anyway
09:54<zathras>I would have preferred if people made more sensible choices like Jitsi
09:55<zathras>ublock origin and privacy badger are active on my chromium
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10:11<PaulePanter>Hi. Do you know of efforts how to convert an official Debian install image into an ONIE compatible image?
10:12<PaulePanter>Debian seems to be the basis of most Network Operating Systems (ONL, DentOS, SONiC, Cumulus Linux, …).
10:12<PaulePanter>(Otherwise reversing/adapting their tools might work.)
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10:16<PaulePanter>Ha. Just found http://lists.opencompute.org/pipermail/opencompute-onie/2015-October/000878.html
10:16<PaulePanter>pointing to https://github.com/opencomputeproject/onie/tree/master/contrib/debian-iso
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10:26<scorpion2185[m]>bremner: I'm building gnome latest on sid, I need version 40 at least (that is also the latest version now). With jhbuild I won't touch the packages but it's a VM with also a few experimental packages anyway. Is it possible that version 40 will be out on experimental maybe soon?
10:27<bremner>scorpion2185[m]: probably not before the bullseye release
10:27<bremner>just build in experimental?
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10:27<scorpion2185[m]>yes
10:27<bremner>also, this is more #debian-next topic
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10:29<scorpion2185[m]>If I use apt source and I copy the 40 version can I build it with dpkg-build?
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10:29<PaulePanter>scorpion2185[m]: I recommend to ask in #debian-gnome.
10:31<scorpion2185[m]>I' ll check the room, debian mentors is not active, isn't it?
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10:34<scorpion2185[m]> * If I use apt source and I copy the 40 version can I build it with dpkg-buildpackage?
10:35<scorpion2185[m]>Only 7 person in #debian-gnome
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10:38<PaulePanter>scorpion2185[m]: They are on the OFTC network.
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10:40<superkuh>There are 101 people in #debian-gnome.
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10:50<scorpion2185[m]>I can't find it with revolt, I enabled all rooms so also OFTC. i joined debina-gnome on matrix so
10:51<PaulePanter>scorpion2185[m]: OFTC is another IRC network. You are probably only on freenode.
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10:52<zathras>scorpion2185[m], PaulePanter , you are both chatting (this channel) on OFTC atm
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10:53*zathras thinks of expanding the classic command 'whereami' :P
10:53<PaulePanter>zathras: Ha. True.
10:54<scorpion2185[m]>Could you give me a link to #debian-gnome?
10:56<Querens>hello! Does anybody have any idea how can I make macbook pro keyboard work? Defualt config didn't work, I tried to change it to MacBook / MacBookPro (Intl) with no result.
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10:57<scorpion2185[m]>maybe there aren't the drivers in the kernel.
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11:00<Querens>do you mean that MacBook / MacBookPro (Intl) option just isn't working right due to the abscence of this driver in the kernel?
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11:11<Querens>scorpion2185[m]: well, seems like I get the idea. Will look into it, ty!
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11:29<goober_>Hello
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11:30<goober_>Can someone guide me on the "practical" differences between running Debian vs Ubuntu on a webserver? (I hope this is not offtopic)
11:33<towo`>the practical difference is the name of the distro and the software versions
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11:35<goober_>towo But what about a stream of updates, as far as I understand Debian Stable would get less updates than Ubuntu. Ideally, I'd prefer to set it up and move on, so less updates the better.
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12:23<Sqrt{not}>Querens, there are several pages on the debian wiki about macbook pro configuring. which version of macbook pro are you using?
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12:25<Querens>Sqrt{not}: macbook pro 16 late 2019
12:26<Querens>I'm upgrading to sid now, hope this'll help
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12:30<voker57>macbook pages on debian wiki seem to be very old
12:30<bremner>goober_: debian stable is roughly a 2 year update cycle
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12:41<somiaj>Querens: there isn't that much difference between sid and bullseye, so unsure how much that will change things. A lot of hardware issues boil down to which kernel is being used.
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15:43<dpkg>Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>.
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15:47<DarkHack70>in 15year of praticing, never ask in forum or other, doesn't know all this rule, for debian user, wheezy, jessie, squeeze, was able to union nfs on pxe boot and kernel append, I'm not able on the web to find equivalent solution :(
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15:49<sney>irc has a lot of idlers who check in from time to time. if you describe your actual issue, then someone may have a suggestion for you. it might not be right away. asking "someone" for individual help before asking the question would be inappropriate on a forum, and it's inappropriate here too.
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23:02<beef-cake-69>hello world
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23:02<sney>hello
23:03<beef-cake-69>sup sney what distro u running?
23:04<sney>debian, which makes sense since this is #debian
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23:06<beef-cake-69>fair enough :')
23:07<dvs>red hat
23:07*dvs runs away
23:07<beef-cake-69>*tips fedora*
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23:43<deb>I'm stuck in this blackscreen that just say's:usb3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110. As I start the pc.
23:43<deb>And the Pc was on sleep mode
23:44<deb>What is that supposed to mean ? And how can I fix it ?
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23:45<somiaj>Some usb device is giving an error, I'd probably start by unplugging usb devices to try to dtermine which one
23:46<somiaj>though this may not be your real error, it could be your system is freezing when recovering from sleep, and that is the last message the kernel got, but isn't actually why it is freezing (just a guess here)
23:47<FelixActually>deb: Try pressing CTRL + Alt + (all of the function keys) to see if you can get to another TTy
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23:47<deb>Whats a TTy ?
23:47<FelixActually>Teletypewriter
23:47<FelixActually>A terminal
23:47<IIsi50MHz>teletype device
23:47<FelixActually>But also I worded that wrong
23:47<FelixActually>You obviously can't press all the function keys
23:47<somiaj>a text console maybe what you would call it, tty is just the old name that has stuck
23:47<IIsi50MHz>old-speak for "that thing you type in when all you have is text mode" (:
23:47<FelixActually>Just do CTRL + Alt + (one function key at a time) until you get something
23:48<FelixActually>And if you don't get anything it's likely dead
23:48<deb>Yeah it's dead
23:48<deb>I don't get anything
23:49<gry>Ctrl + alt + F3
23:50<deb>Is it going to have negative effects if I just force shutdown and reboot ?
23:50<deb>gry: already tried
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23:50<somiaj>deb: you may have some dataloss of any files that weren't saved, but most often it will be fine
23:51<somiaj>Due to jurnaling, filesystems recover from forced shutdowns fairly realiabliy
23:52<deb>Somiaj: thanks. And how can I fix that usb error ? It has happened before
23:52<deb>Even my bios has a problem with it somehow
23:52<FelixActually>Does it only happen with sleep mode?
23:53<somiaj>deb: it could be you just have a usb device acting poorly, I would identify which one it is. Though not recovering from sleep is probably not the usb device, often times the kernel will say it encountered an error but continue to work just fine
23:54<somiaj>network/video cards/crapy acpi on the mobo are often the causes of sleep not working right on a linux kernel
23:54<somiaj>though network not as much (usually then the network just doens't come back, it doesn't freeze the system)
23:55<deb>FelixActually: well thats the first time it happens with sleep mode. But before I installed debian I couldn't get in to the bios and I had B4 error and the bios would just freeze that problem was usb related I know that for sure. But it never happened after sleepmode before :/
23:56<FelixActually>What's your hardware?
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23:57<deb>FelixActually: mainboard:A68N-5200
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23:59<deb>somiaj: I don't think a usb device is acting poorly. I Think it's Mainboard related and the usb ports or plugs are acting poorly
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