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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-04-22

---Logopened Thu Apr 22 00:00:13 2021
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00:01-!-diogenes_oftc is "Nicolas" on #debian
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00:03-!-simonpatapon is "Simon Patapon" on #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
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00:46-!-einyx- is "PID1" on #own3d #darknet #security #debian-students #ganja #SwitchHack #debian #hackers #freedombox # #guardianproject #oftc
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01:12-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #packaging #debian #debian-ai #debian-next #debian-social #debian-meeting
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02:47-!-alex11 is "your worst nightmare" on #bitlbee #debian-next #debian
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02:50-!-ashwinik is "Ashwini Kammar" on #debian
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02:52-!-ax5623 is "+" on #linux #debian-next #debian
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03:54<TechieGuy>Hlw
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04:15<segamain>hey guys what do I do when a repository has no release file
04:16<segamain>or when multiple repos have no release files
04:16<segamain>and one can't update securely from them ?
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04:38<pardus>brazil
04:38<pardus>here
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04:49<segamain>no
04:50<pardus>brazil
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05:03<bcachefs-newbie>segamain: you wait until the repository is fixed
05:03<bcachefs-newbie>pardus: there is a linux distribution from Turkey called "Pardus Linux".
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05:31<pardus>FBI
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06:01<pardus>aqui só tem lammer
06:01<pardus>a maioria ai ta usando windows
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06:07<dpkg>Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br on irc.oftc.net (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. - https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/
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06:34<freem>Hi. I think Qt5's systray icon may be buggy, and at least 2 programs I use (quassel, built from source to not pull kde, and keepassxc from repos) are affected by behavior. Debian 10 "buster", WM i3 (tested from both old-stable and stable). Starting sequence is "described" here: https://p.mort.coffee/s22. In few word, login from tty, calling xinit which lets runsvdir manage various programs (since I consider them to be daemons). runsvdir executes 3
06:34<freem>applications which have a systray icon: claws-mail (systray icon provided by a plugin, gtk2 application), quassel-client and keepassxc. Of the 3, only claws mail effectively have a systray icon, other ones are qt5 applications. Example of keepassxc's logs: https://p.mort.coffee/AP6, keepassxc's run file: https://p.mort.coffee/kpr, the "common" shell sourced by it: https://p.mort.coffee/FxC
06:36<freem>I wuold like to test other gtk2 applications which have a systray icon, and why not gtk3 applications, with systray icons *not* provided by plugins, to see if the "fix" claws have is not linked to the fact systray is provided by a plugin
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06:37<freem>note that this setup currently also makes i3bar buggy, but I'll investigate that later
06:37<freem>(well, they just don't show)
06:37<freem>thinking about it, it may be related
06:38<freem>symptoms are the same: program stops immediately
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06:39<freem>but then, how can claws-mail work? Why do those X11 and Qt5 programs stop immediately, unlike gtk2's claws? Is it really because of plugins which might be loaded after some pre-conditions are filled? Which pre-conditions could it be?
06:40<freem>if someone have an idea, I'd love to read it, because I'm really puzzled by this. The reason I'm trying to setup things this way is, I want to be as less dependent as possible from the window manager, in order to move on more experimental ones, with less things to worry about
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06:50<lenovo_>buon giorno, mi sono appena connesso tramite irssi
06:51<avu>!it
06:51<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. - debian-italian@lists.debian.org
06:51<lenovo_>thank you c:
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07:04<lenovo>how can i quit from here with irssi?
07:04<Unit193>/quit
07:04<Unit193>Or just /part
07:04<lenovo>what means part?
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07:05<lenovo>ok i try
07:05<Unit193>Just quit the channel, not irssi.
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07:08<lenovo>ok it work. but before i do / disconnect and i could not get out of the window of channel
07:09<lenovo>in this case how can i quit definitely?
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08:46<TimMc>I'm getting closer to having Debian installed onto a LUKS container that uses --integrity, but not there yet...
08:47<TimMc>I used a Live USB session to open the LUKS container (and activate the thinpool-using LVM volumes inside it) then ran the installer, which went fine. Except I just got dumped to initramfs busybox on restart.
08:48<TimMc>I found that /etc/crypttab had the wrong settings (it was for some reason expecting a keyfile instead of a password) so I updated it and ran update-initramfs in a chroot, but still no luck.
08:48<TimMc>What's the next thing I should try?
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08:49<jm_>isn't the idea of LUKS that one has to enter a password at boot, i.e. not have it stored in a file?
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08:50<bremner>both options are possible. Some people use a key on a usb thumb-drive, e.g.
08:51<jm_>right, that makes sense so maybe I misunderstood the above explanation
08:52<hvnl[m]>what is the use of /usr/src/linux-headers? I have come to know that linux userspace headers are stored in /usr/include/linux/ and kernelspace headers are stored in /lib/kernel-version>/modules/build (a link to the kernel installation directory)
08:52<hvnl[m]>Other distros like fedora have no /usr/src/linux-headers, why does debian have it? and what is the purpose of it?
08:52<jm_>I also remember people mentioning plymouth in relation to disk encryption for prompts
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08:54<bremner>hvnl[m]: you can run "apt show linux-headers-5.10.0-6-amd64" (or whatever directory in /usr/src/) and get some information from the package description
08:55<bremner>more precisely "dpkg -S the-file-you-are-curious-about", then "apt show the-resulting-package"
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08:55<bremner>as for why some design choices are made, probably nobody here can answer authoritatively
08:57<hvnl[m]>bremner: ok if I make some changes into a custom compiled kernel header file. do i need to worry about linux-headers on debian?
08:57<hvnl[m]>do i need to make some changes into that?
08:57<bremner>hvnl[m]: I guess it's up to you how you build your kernel, and probably does not involve debian packages
08:58<hvnl[m]>ok thanks
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09:27<TimMc>jm: Yes, and I suspect that because the installer never had to prompt me for a password, it assumed the LUKS container used a key.
09:28<TimMc>I did see "plymouth" in some of the initramfs /scripts dirs.
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10:14<wanster1>how i can add apps do my debian gnome desktop like terminal browser
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10:17<Fraggle2>wanster1: you mean installing applications from the debian repositories? The general way is to use a tool like "apt", but under gnome there should be a gui for installing gui applications
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10:18<wanster1>adding icons do desktop like terminal browser ..,
10:18<Fraggle2>I am not on gnome now, but try the super-key and type "software". an icon for a kind of software center should appear
10:18<Fraggle2>ah ok
10:19<Fraggle2>I think the gnome desktop does not have this concept anymore
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10:19<chipps>iirc there are plugins to do that
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10:20<wanster1>downloaded in gnome Desktop Icons
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10:20<wanster1>shows only my folder & bin
10:20<Fraggle2>you could put shortcuts in the, how is it called, active corner (?!?)
10:21<Fraggle2>wanster1: what you want is not possible with plain gnome
10:21<Fraggle2>maybe with plugins like chipps said
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10:22<Fraggle2>I prefer a "simpler" desktop like xfce, which has the classic desktop
10:22<Fraggle2>you could try mate-desktop for a gnome2 look-and-feel
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10:23<wanster1>ok
10:23<Fraggle2>or try the "classic mode" of gnome first, maybe
10:23<Fraggle2>you can choose it on the login screen
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10:24<wanster1>no such option in login option
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10:24<Fraggle2>select the "gnome classic" seesion
10:25<wanster1>how i can install gnome classic
10:25<Fraggle2>https://linuxbsdos.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/GNOMELogin4.png
10:26<Fraggle2>looks similar like that
10:26<Fraggle2>it comes with gnome
10:26<Fraggle2>but no guarantee that you can put icons on the desktop
10:27<wanster1>ok debian first install there option
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10:27<Fraggle2>I do not understand your comment
10:27<Fraggle2>you do not need to install anything to try gnome classic mode
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10:28<Fraggle2>xfce or mate-desktop would have to be installed separately
10:28<Fraggle2>gnome classic comes with gnome
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10:30<Sqrt{not}>wanster1, or else, just navigate from the little menu icon in the top left of your gnome screen "Applications"
10:30<wanster1>ok all try
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10:31<sun>irc still exists! i just stepped back to 1989
10:32<sun>wish i could get reverse scrolling to work everywhere in this install
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11:31<apteryx>hi! What's the canonical Debian resource for cross-building packages?
11:33<jhutchins>apteryx: What do you mean by cross-building?
11:33<apteryx>building a package for the armhf architecture on a x86_64 machine, for example
11:34<apteryx>e.g., where the target != host
11:34<apteryx>I see there's some tool called 'dpkg-cross'
11:35<apteryx>https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/tools.en.html#dpkg-cross; is this what I should use?
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13:07<wan>would like icons in the debian gnome environment just drag drop icons do desktop like example (terminal) (firefox) not possible in edora example its possible just go usr/share/appliacations just copy paste list you want example (calendar) (terminal)
13:09<wan>can somebody help
13:09<wan>FEDORA
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13:11<wan>in debian all is blank usr/share/application not possible to copy paste everthing on dekstop
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14:24<Maulkin>wallacer_: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1465/desktop-icons/
14:24<FBI>are you wanted
14:24<Maulkin>Apologies.
14:25<Maulkin>That was for wan, but they left already
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16:02<floren>I'm having an odd problem where I can resolve deb.debian.org if I e.g. ping it, but apt-get update cannot resolve it
16:02<floren>Err:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian stable InRelease Temporary failure resolving 'deb.debian.org'
16:03<floren>Does apt-get use some name resolution method outside of /etc/resolv.conf?
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16:03<floren>This is a container where I messed up some permissions/ownership in /etc, but it would be a real pain to rebuild the thing right now, so I'm hoping I can fix whatever I messed up
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16:08<sarnold>floren: tools using glibc for resolving go through /etc/nsswitch.conf to figure out which services to use, in which order; it might be worth inspecting that file, and configurations that it lists, too
16:10<floren>I'm guessing I care about the "hosts" line? "hosts: files dns" seems ok to me
16:10<floren>and there's nothing unexpected in /etc/hosts
16:11<floren>curl, ping, these can look up names just fine
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16:14<sarnold>floren: okay, cool. hmm. maybe http proxies? does env | grep -i proxy show anything? apt-config dump | grep -i proxy ?
16:15<floren>Two days ago, I installed a broken version of an internal package for work which did a recursive chown and chmod on /etc and /usr.
16:15<floren>This morning, I changed ownerships back to root
16:15<floren>apt-get update worked before that. It does not work today. There have been no proxies introduced or configured in my network
16:17<sarnold>floren: my next debugging step if this were mine.. strace -f -yy apt-get update ... and try to spot what's going on
16:18<somiaj>I don't think everything in /etc is owned by root, do you have a backup to see what the correct permissions could be?
16:19<floren>somiaj: looking at another system, darn near everything is owned by root, exceptions being group ownership on shadow files
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16:21<somiaj>yea, looks like root is the owner, and various files may need to have the correct group.
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16:47<TimMc>floren: I've screwed things up badly a few times with an overconfident `chown -R`...
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17:00<TimMc>There's not really a great way to restore it without just restoring from backup, but I will say that a judicious use of `find ... ! -user root` and such on a computer with the same software installed (or an older backup) has allowed me to identify everything that needed to be set back right.
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21:40<anon1337>hi all! i have problem: when im trying to install some packages im stucking & have next message: Change media: insert the disc labeled «Debian GNU/Linux 10.9.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20210327-10:39» in device «/media/cdrom/» and press [Enter]
21:40<sney>comment out the cdrom entries in your sources.list and run apt update
21:41<anon1337>tnx!
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21:44<anon1337>next question: how to edit sources.list? i mean, the owner is root, which command is running text editor as root?
21:45<sney>you can run 'apt edit-sources' as root and it will start the editor for you.
21:45<sney>there are a lot of text editors, use the one you like. nano is popular, so is vi(m), emacs, etc, it's endless
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21:52<anon1337>a lot of thanks man! thats my 3rd day of rejecting windows
21:52<sney>np
21:53<sarnold>nice :)
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23:50<FelixActually>Not exactly related to Debian as such, but can I install all the firefox-esr-l10n packages except English and not have an issue? It's only for Firefox's UI, right? Not font support and such for other languages?
23:51<FelixActually>*uninstall, not install
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23:53<sney>FelixActually: right, they're not required by firefox or anything else
23:53<FelixActually>sney: Thanks :)
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23:55<FelixActually>What packages do I need to uninstall to get rid of the proprietary Nvidia drivers?
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23:56<sney>'aptitude remove ~invidia' usually does the trick
23:56<FelixActually>I can't seem to find Noveau though
23:56<FelixActually>Am I spelling it wrong?
23:57<sney>nouveau is part of the kernel, so it is already installed on your system. removing the nvidia-driver packages will automatically re-enable it.
23:57<FelixActually>Ah, okay, thanks
23:57<somiaj>Note, there is some firmware in firmware-misc-nonfree that can work with nouveau
23:57<sney>you can make sure you still have the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package, though it's not common to remove it
23:58<FelixActually>somiaj: Do I need that or can I uninstall it?
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