--- | Log | opened Fri Apr 23 00:00:15 2021 |
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00:01 | <sney> | FelixActually: it's not *required* but some video features may be missing without it. what features these are will depend on your gpu. |
00:01 | <somiaj> | FelixActually: If you want to run nouevau you may benfinit from having the non-free firmware. |
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00:01 | <FelixActually> | I'd rather purge all of the non-free stuff that I can from my system |
00:02 | <FelixActually> | The most demanding game I play now is Minetest anyway |
00:02 | <FelixActually> | My GPU is a GTX 980 |
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00:03 | <sney> | you'll just have to try it and see what happens. afaik, you will have a working xorg with or without the firmware. |
00:03 | <FelixActually> | Alright |
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00:58 | <TechieGuy> | How to remove package residuals? |
01:00 | <tomg> | what's a package residual? |
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01:00 | <tomg> | !purge |
01:00 | <dpkg> | "purge" means to completely wipe away a package, including its configuration files. Use «aptitude purge $package» or «dpkg -P $package» To purge all "removed" packages: «aptitude purge '~c'». To restore configuration files, ask me about <confmiss>. Also ask me about <why aptitude>. |
01:01 | <somiaj> | note any configure put in $HOME are left along, those you have to manually rmove |
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05:27 | <grumble> | i'm looking for a way to search for the debian package containing a certain perl module. For instance, I know that libpod-parser-perl contains modules like Pod::Select in addition to Pod::Parser |
05:27 | <grumble> | but how would I figure that out the other way round? eg if I knew I wanted Pod::Select but did not know the package it was in |
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05:29 | <jm_> | apt-cache search Pod::Select - most module include that in the description |
05:29 | <Unit193> | Most of the time apt-cache search workds for that, sometimes you have to move on to apt-file. |
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05:32 | <grumble> | i see, thanks :) |
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06:34 | <olasd> | grumble: if you don't mind the bazillion dependencies (and having the Contents indexes available on your machine), you can use `dh-make-perl locate Pod::Select` (from the package dh-make-perl) |
06:35 | <olasd> | (it basically looks in the Contents indexes for files ending in Foo/Bar.pm, I think) |
06:35 | <choozy> | Hello |
06:35 | <choozy> | Why does there not seem to be an alert when your disk is almost full and no process prohibiting filling up a partition to the extent where 0 bytes are free? |
06:36 | <choozy> | I have seen this happen with EXT4 and BTRFS |
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06:38 | <olasd> | choozy: my desktop environment (gnome) gives me an alert when a partition is running out; by default ext4 allows the last 5% of allocations only to root, unless you tune2fs it otherwise |
06:38 | <olasd> | (dunno about btrfs) |
06:38 | <sep> | choozy, you can setup whatever alert you wish. debian contains many, i use munin. many filesystems have a root reserved space, but root can ofcourse fill to 0 |
06:38 | <choozy> | Ah okay |
06:39 | <olasd> | an alert *and* a tool to inspect the disk usage (baobab) in one click -- well, at least for directories my user can traverse |
06:39 | <sep> | munin is for headless servers to. not much point in for a laptop, depends on use case. |
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06:40 | <choozy> | Ah okay, so it depends on the DE a bit and you are sugggested to use external tools |
06:41 | <olasd> | choozy: yeah; I'd expect kde has a disk space warning too, but I've not really used it in ~15 years so I don't know for sure; what DE are you using? |
06:41 | <choozy> | I have been using Cinnamon |
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10:45 | <ottavio> | I have a few problems with bluetooth and my Jabra 85h. I don't know where to start. Maybe dmesg? |
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10:47 | <ottavio> | Basically I've paired my BT cans to my laptop and they work but sometimes they block playing videos. I have to unpair and re-pair to make videos restart. |
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10:48 | <ottavio> | 2nd problem sometimes are not recognised as high fidelity link but as headset. |
10:48 | <ottavio> | There are lots of errors in dmesg |
10:49 | <ottavio> | $ dmesg|grep Blue|tb |
10:49 | <ottavio> | https://termbin.com/7655 |
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13:49 | <redbrass> | I'm getting invalid date for this command: date -d "20201-04-23 16:41:44.302302893 +0000 UTC" +"%F %T". The date is pulled from a podman inspect command to get the created date. Looking for tips how deal with this easily. I could drop to JS/Python/etc. to handle the date formatting but want to stay in Bash... |
13:49 | <superkuh> | 20201 |
13:49 | <superkuh> | I think you want that to be 2021 |
13:50 | <superkuh> | Still invalid though. :\ |
13:50 | <redbrass> | er. yes - it IS 2021 - that was a typo in IRC |
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13:51 | <blast007> | redbrass: are they all "+0000 UTC"? |
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13:52 | <redbrass> | No, the other one I'm dealing with is -600 MDT |
13:52 | <redbrass> | er -0600 MDT |
13:53 | <redbrass> | That also throws an invalid date though |
13:53 | <superkuh> | Try just +0000 no UTC. |
13:54 | <redbrass> | hmm. My command is dynamic - date -d "$(podman inspect -f="{{.Created}}" myimage)" +"%F %T" |
13:55 | <superkuh> | Strip it with some inline perl? |
13:55 | <redbrass> | (I've simplified a little - point is I'm capturing that podman inspect output and passing it to date. I guess I could apply some sed magic to manipulate that output before passing to date... |
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13:56 | <redbrass> | but yes, simple test shows that stripping of the friendly timezone handles the string properly. |
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15:07 | <MRj> | hi |
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15:10 | <Sqrt{not}> | hi MRj |
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15:41 | <EmleyMoor> | What's the best way to add the starting of x0vncserver to a "normal" desktop session? I use this to assist my partner when I'm not there with him |
15:42 | <superkuh> | System->Preferences start up applications? Depends on your DE I guess. |
15:43 | <EmleyMoor> | superkuh: Any way NOT from the desktop itself? |
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15:45 | <sney> | you would probably have to place a shortcut in some autorun directory used by the DE, then remotely reboot them or restart the display manager |
15:46 | <EmleyMoor> | Thought I'd just found a way to resume testing... unfortunately the line into his place now seems to be down |
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15:56 | <Mister00X> | I think this could also be automated using systemd..... something like it is described here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User |
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16:22 | <superkuh> | Is there a recommended way to install Rust language on Debian 10 that is done from repos? |
16:23 | <sarnold> | I'd expect apt install cargo to get you most of the way there -- at least the descriptions on cargo and rustc packages don't give me the feeling that they're just for generating binary packages for distribution |
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16:49 | <superkuh> | Well, that' doesn't do it. |
16:49 | <superkuh> | It turns out that Rust stable isn't actually stable and the version Debian 10.9 has can't run most things. |
16:49 | <superkuh> | Er, compile. |
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16:50 | <sarnold> | dang, too old? |
16:50 | <sney> | yeah, there are a few things that couldn't be backported to buster because of rust |
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16:51 | <superkuh> | I plan on going to bullseye here soon. That has rust 1.50, which is what I need. |
16:51 | <superkuh> | But I imagine that'll only last a year or two before becoming non-functional. |
16:52 | <azeem> | ITYM rusty |
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16:52 | <superkuh> | Maybe. I don't know what I'm doing. I avoided it for years but now an application I'd like to try requires it. |
16:53 | <superkuh> | Oh, a joke. Right. Got it. Eventually. |
16:53 | <azeem> | sorry :-/ |
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17:55 | <superkuh> | Oh. Even bullseye doesn't have 1.50 by default. |
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18:07 | <Unit193> | superkuh: Only experimental does. |
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18:08 | <superkuh> | I've decided to just not run the software, told the dev why I couldn't, and hope he'll not use rust in the future. |
18:09 | <joeDoh> | how does one determine what version of bluetooth is built into one's computer? None of lshw, lspci nor lsusb seem to show anything obvious. I've groped around in /proc and /sys without having found anything |
18:09 | <superkuh> | But... I am 3/4 done upgrading to bullseye anyway. |
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18:23 | <Unit193> | Good luck with that, a lot of things are pushing for rust now. There was a bit of a problem when a highly popular python module required rust for something or other (IIRC, but don't quote me on that.) |
18:23 | <joeDoh> | "bt-adapter -i" doesn't seem to help either |
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18:25 | <superkuh> | The upgrade to bullseye broke my system boot. |
18:25 | <superkuh> | This is the same thing that happened when I tried to use the bullseye installer. |
18:25 | <superkuh> | Whereas buster worked fine. |
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18:27 | <superkuh> | Good thing I cloned everything to an extra hard drive a couple weeks ago. |
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18:29 | <joeDoh> | ah ha! "hciconfig -a" |
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19:31 | <redbrass> | can anyone else see http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb ? When I run apt update I get a connection error for that repo. I've confirmed this on three different boxes, one on a different server - but I think he is on the same provider... |
19:31 | <redbrass> | er.. different network |
19:32 | <sney> | I get a 404, which isn't surprising for a 3rd party repo |
19:32 | <sarnold> | quite often 'cloud provider' things are stored in buckets that prevent directory listings |
19:32 | <redbrass> | this is the official google chrome setup. That part I find surprising.. but thanks. |
19:33 | <redbrass> | sarnold: understood, but apt update/upgrade fails too |
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19:33 | <sarnold> | not encouraging |
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19:34 | <redbrass> | It's been like that for a week and I can't find any reference to the issue online. |
19:35 | <redbrass> | guess my google-foo is weak these days. |
19:35 | <sney> | does the result of 'host dl.google.com' look normal, i.e. not a private ip address or something too familiar? |
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19:36 | <redbrass> | looks normal to me - a 208.x.x.x value from this box. |
19:36 | <sarnold> | some random website suggested wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb -- which omg, 71 MB/s download.. |
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19:38 | <redbrass> | that URL works fine, but the /linux/chrome/deb was setup by the samesaid deb I used originally. |
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19:39 | <redbrass> | Thanks for the support though - it is encouraging to know that I'm not just inept :) |
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22:12 | <brian_18> | hey |
22:12 | <sney> | hi |
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22:12 | <brian_18> | can anyone tell me what this geoclue is about? |
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