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---Logopened Mon Apr 26 00:00:19 2021
00:00<alex11>xfce's just about the only desktop i feel comfortable using tasksel with in the installer and even then i get annoyed and want like 7 things uninstalled
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00:01<alex11>(ok fine i've never used lxde/lxqt i don't know which one debian has now)
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00:01<alex11>mate is ok for that though
00:01<alex11>but yeah i prefer doing things manually
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00:17<fishbait>is there anyway i can find out why samba isnt sharing out the drive i want it to?
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00:17<twb>fishbait: 12:07 <twb> Penguin+r \\your-server-hostname\your-share-name12:07 <twb> Just need to browse to it manually
00:18<twb>fishbait: or to answer your question narrowly, "smbclient -L localhost", and read /var/log/
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00:22<fishbait>its saying no such file or directory but i cna browse it just fine O.o
00:24<fishbait>how do i point samba at /sdb rather than /var/lib/samba/usershares/sdb?
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00:31<twb>fishbait: show me your smb.conf
00:31<twb>fishbait: is smbd running as root, or as you?
00:33<fishbait>i have no idea whether its running as root i restarted it via systemctl from a root terminal (sue me i'm lazy and have been working on this thing for 5 days now stupid friggin wifi ap)
00:35<fishbait>smb.conf https://pastebin.com/Uf7sQHg3
00:38<twb>fishbait: you set stuff under [homes] which is special
00:38<twb>fishbait: before "path = /sdb" add a group like "[porn]" or "[movies]"
00:38<fishbait>ooh okay
00:40<fishbait>thank you! that did it!
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00:43<fishbait>is there any way to clear the history in the terminal? i know how to clear the screen but how do i clear the typed history?
00:46<twb>Ctrl+l
00:46<twb>oh you mean you typed a password and now it's in <up> history?
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00:49<fishbait>nah i just like to clean up after each service is up and running
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00:50<twb>rm ~/.bash_history will wipe everything I guess
00:50<fishbait>thank you!
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00:51<fishbait>nope didnt wipe anything on the active terminal ah well its a minor thing
00:52<fishbait>anybody got the name of the plex server app for an apt-get install?
00:53<themill>"history -c"
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00:53<fishbait>thanks!
00:58<fishbait>is there a repository that has the plex media server? i want apt to handle the install
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01:02<twb>fishbait: AFAIK it's non-free software
01:03<twb>Looks relevant: https://www.linuxbabe.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/plex-debian-repo.png
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01:09<fishbait>thats what i was looking for i didnt want to build from source or install outside of apt in case doing so might break something since apt has handled installs so far
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01:17<somiaj>fishbait: make sure you undersatnd that you can break things by installing stuff from 'random apt repos', you need to make sure the repos you choose are actually compadable with the version of debian you are running.
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01:18<somiaj>sometimes source installs are safer when the software isn't provided by debian.
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01:19<somiaj>though that third party repo claims it is compadble with debian 8+, recall your trust is now in them to make a good repo.
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01:24<yc>hello.
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03:18<twb>yc: do you have a Debian question?
03:19<yc_>i'm a new man here. so excited.
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03:22<alex11>'no'
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03:24<twb>Novy Debiansky Chelovek!
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05:43<cpach>hi folks. my sshd refuses to start. it says "Bad configuration option: GlobalKnownHostsFile"
05:43<cpach>afaik that is a legit configuration option
05:43<cpach>this is debian stable
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05:46<twb>Not for sshd_config
05:46<twb>That is a client option
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05:51<cpach>twb: ah. silly me. thank you
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06:31<Pete>So i tried to install Spotify on Debian and found that apt-key is deprecated. I tried to manually download & convert the key. Afterwards I added the [signed-by=/path/to/key.gpg] in the spotify.list and installed Spotify. It worked. However the installations with "apt install spotify-client" created a key in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
06:31<Pete>I thought this should not happen because its insecure. That's why i added [signed-by] and did not use apt-key
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06:51<twb>Pete: you might also want to change .list to .sources
06:52<twb>It is very common for third-party packages to add their repo's signing key to apt's global trust list
06:52<twb>Prior to about 2018 there weren't any other options (AFAIK)
06:54<Pete>So this is not my fault?
06:54<Pete>And I can't prevent the package from adding their key?
06:54<Pete>Just wanted to do everything the right way
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07:03<joeDoh>trying to connect my bt headphones I get "Connection Failed: Connection ":1.104" is not allowed to add more match rules (increase limits in configuration file if required; max_match_rules_per_connection=2048)" Found bug reports at freedesktop, redhat and blueman on github but they are 4 r 5 years old and don't seem related. I've tried restarting bluetooth, and also removing the headphones from
07:03<joeDoh>the device manager list and readding. Still fails to connect.
07:03<joeDoh>just a sec having copy problems
07:04<joeDoh>journalctl gives a "bluetoothd[141]: Sap driver initialization failed" and then a bunch of "bluetoothd[141]: bt_uhid_send: Invalid argument (22)". Stackexchange mentions the SAP error which seems to mean SIM Access Profile/Protocol. However, this is on a laptop, so there is no SIM, but the last connection of the headset was to a cell phone. Would the SAP driver error cause the connection
07:04<joeDoh>failure? (why do headphones need SIM drivers anyway? :/ )
07:04<joeDoh>I'm at the end of my debugging abilities. Can anyone suggest how to get my headphones connected to my laptop again?
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09:27<twb>joeDoh: bluez (bluetooth on linux) has some CLI debugging tools
09:27<twb>joeDoh: I would try using those to associate and then ping the headphones
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09:27<twb>joeDoh: I haven't done this except for keyboards, and not since bluez 4.x, since when it has completely changed. So I can't give any specifics
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09:28<twb>joeDoh: oh, and I would also try looking at debugging message (journalctl -p4 et cetera)
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09:32<abrotman>Did HE just disappear?
09:32<gr_wity>from the quit message, doesn't look like it at all
09:32<dwfreed>abrotman: no, the matrix.org IRC bridge was restarted
09:32<gr_wity>just some Matrix IRC bridge using an address-per-client
09:33<abrotman>ah, not HE specifically ..
09:34<dwfreed>gr_wity: you can't see it on freenode, because they cloak, but the matrix.org bridge uses 2001:470:1af1:101::/64 for users
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09:48<joeDoh>twb: Thanks for the hints. "man -k bluez", amongst others, gives "btmgmt - A commanline interace of BlueZ for management". Would that be the tool you meant?
09:49<twb>joeDoh: dunno sory
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09:51<joeDoh>ok, thanks
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13:06<Giuseppe>Hello to Everybody. I have a problem with usb3 key. The problem is the speed. The key is a kingston dt50 64gb. I have not this problem on windows... On windows the speed is good. On linux if i use the sync command after copying files, the sync command will never end and the usb3 key getting hot, very hot...
13:06<Giuseppe>can somebody help me with that?
13:07<petn-randall>Giuseppe: What are you doing that needs the sync command?
13:07<Giuseppe>for example
13:08<Giuseppe>i copy 1gb of pictures on it, and when the copy end, i type sync on terminal, and the sync command start but never end, the key is getting very hot and so i unplug it..
13:09<Giuseppe>this happen also if i do not type sync on my terminal
13:09<Giuseppe>if i unmount the key, the unmount process never end..
13:09<Giuseppe>and i need to unplug the key, and recreate partiton table and partition...
13:10<Giuseppe>on windows (same pc) this problem does not exist...
13:11<Giuseppe>before unmount, if I'm not mistaken, a sync happens. And I think the problem is there.
13:11<Giuseppe>T_T
13:12<Giuseppe>i have no idea, I have searched everywhere on the internet but nothing I cannot find the solution
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13:13<petn-randall>Giuseppe: Do you get any output in /var/log/kern.log while the sync runs?
13:13<Giuseppe>i tried this key also on a raspberry with raspbian installed and the problem is the same
13:13<petn-randall>Giuseppe: And yes, similar to "sync", the data is written to the drive during the unmounting process.
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13:14<petn-randall>Giuseppe: Do you use the same filesystem when comparing Debian and Windows with this USB stick?
13:14<Giuseppe>yes
13:14<cc>Giuseppe: what filesystem is on the device and for how long did you let the sync run?
13:15<Giuseppe>i tried ext4 fat32 ntfs exfat
13:15<Giuseppe>same problem
13:15<petn-randall>Giuseppe: Again, do you get any output in /var/log/kern.log while the sync runs?
13:15<Giuseppe>wait
13:15<cc>according to page 4 of https://proclockers.com/review/kingston-64gb-datatraveler-50-usb-3-1-gen1-drive-review/4/ the write speeds are terrible under some loads on this device
13:15<Giuseppe>i will look for it
13:15<petn-randall>Or at any point, in fact.
13:16<Giuseppe>i have also an usb3 hub (orico), same problem
13:16<Giuseppe>wait i'm looking for bad messages on /var/log/kern.log
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13:17<Giuseppe>i need to reboot
13:17<petn-randall>Oh, ok?
13:17<Giuseppe>because i can't do nothing right now
13:17<Giuseppe>with the key
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13:17<Giuseppe>it is locked
13:18<cc>Giuseppe: for how long did you let the sync run?
13:18<Giuseppe>incredible..
13:18<Giuseppe>brb
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13:39<Giuseppe>ok i'm back
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13:41<Giuseppe>I got confused, I hadn't tried the fat32 filesystem. Now I reformatted it in fat32 and the kingston dt50 usb3 stick works fine. It is not very fast but when I sync from the terminal, the sync works very fast, I think the files synchronize them at the time of copying.
13:41<Giuseppe>for me the problem is solved using fat32
13:42<Giuseppe>excuse me for sorry if I disturbed you, greetings!
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14:06<cuidando>Good afternoon to all. I am ubuntu user and I spent the whole day with an issue. I tried all tutorials I found but it didn't resolve.
14:06<cuidando>It is about ssh service with this file: /etc/init.d/../rc2.d/S01shm_load. Anyone could help me? Thanks a lot
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14:10<sney>!ubuntuirc
14:10<dpkg>This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using HexChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu
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14:13<cuidando>got it, thanks you dpkg. Nice nick! :)
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15:07<gebruiker>dpkg tell me about bunsenlabs
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15:12<gebruiker>hi
15:12<gebruiker>why is openbox still in the repositories. It seems like there is no development at all for years
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15:13<petn-randall>gebruiker: That's not a criteria for throwing packages out.
15:13<petn-randall>gebruiker: As long as people use it, and someone maintains it, it stays in Debian.
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15:14<petn-randall>Especially software with a well-defined scope tend to mature over time and not get updates in years.
15:14<gebruiker>petn-randall: I see, but how can we get security fixes for openbox if no developer is maintaing it and only a packager does?
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15:14<petn-randall>gebruiker: Which security bugs are open?
15:14<gebruiker>openbox has not been updated for 6 years
15:14<petn-randall>... that doesn't answer the question.
15:14<gebruiker>petn-randall: no, just speculation
15:15<petn-randall>Speculation doesn't add anything to the debate. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
15:15<gebruiker>but if you look on bugs.debian there are plenty of important bugs;
15:16<gebruiker>petn-randall: well, how come playing out a scenario where there is security bug and nobody can fix it? It is realstic enough to happen
15:16<petn-randall>gebruiker: The maintainer and/or security team can fix it?
15:17<petn-randall>It's open source software, afterall.
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15:17<gebruiker>petn-randall: is that a guarentee then? I suppose not because there are important(calssified on bugs.debian) bugs that are still open since 2016
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15:19<petn-randall>gebruiker: Which bugs are classified?
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15:19<gebruiker>gebruiker: there are bugs on listed on the openbox bugs.debian page that are classified by the system as important. A lot of these bugs including the bugs are dated < 2016
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15:20<petn-randall>Oh, you mean classified as important. Not "classified", meaning hidden.
15:20<gebruiker>Yes sorry, my enligish is not so good
15:21<gebruiker>I am just curious about how debian handles these things
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15:22<petn-randall>If there were a security bug in openbox, it would get a CVE, and would be handled accordingly; Not all CVEs warrant a fix, though, usually when they're of such low impact, or need such contrived use cases that they're irrelevant.
15:24<gebruiker>ah okay, now I understand it better. Thank you
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15:27<adhawkins>Got an odd problem. Using docker's own repositories to install docker on Buster. Using apt-cacher-ng on my nas (still not upgraded from stretch). The NAS can access the repos if I just use wget to try to retrieve one of the files, but nothing can access them via apt-cacher-ng.
15:27<adhawkins>Any suggestions as to how to debug this? apt-cacher-ng is just reporting that it's unable to reach the host.
15:27<adhawkins>As an alternative, anyone know if it's possible to tell apt not to use a cache for a particular repo?
15:28<petn-randall>adhawkins: You can crank up the verbosity of acng and check the logs to see where it fails.
15:28<adhawkins>That's useful, I'll give that a go petn-randall.
15:29<petn-randall>My guess is that signature checking is on, and it's failing on that.
15:29<petn-randall>Or that it uses https URLs, and it can't find the certificate chain.
15:31<adhawkins>Great, it's now working... :)
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15:33<adhawkins>Wonder if there was an odd certificate issue or something perhaps?
15:33<adhawkins>It's not an HTTPS URL actually, so not likely to be that.
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15:33<adhawkins>It's not rejecting the index because of the certificate, it was just sitting there for minutes trying to download the index.
15:35<adhawkins>Will keep an eye on it, and if it starts happening again I'll turn up the logging and see if I can work out what's going on. Thanks for trying petn-randall.
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16:33<swimi_>hi, everyone there is a package for buster that allow me work with minitube? this library libqt5widgets5 requier version >=5.12
16:36<jmcnaught>,v libqt5widgets5
16:36<judd>Package: libqt5widgets5 on amd64 -- jessie: 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u2; jessie-security: 5.3.2+dfsg-4+deb8u4; stretch: 5.7.1+dfsg-3+deb9u2; stretch-proposed-updates: 5.7.1+dfsg-3+deb9u2; stretch-security: 5.7.1+dfsg-3+deb9u2; buster-security: 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u3; buster: 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4; bullseye: 5.15.2+dfsg-5; sid: 5.15.2+dfsg-5
16:37<jmcnaught>swimi_: you will not be able to upgrade that library in buster. Some other options are running minitube in a bullseye/testing chroot or container, upgrading your system to bullseye/testing, or installing minitube another way such as flatpak.
16:38<swimi_>ok thank, I've another problem now, that is not minitube
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16:39<swimi_>before i give this command apt autoremove apt totem
16:39<swimi_>now i can't go in my synaptic
16:40<jmcnaught>swimi_: you removed apt?
16:40<swimi_>shure, i'm dumb
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16:41<swimi_>my purpose was that to remove only totem app but i fault
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16:42<jmcnaught>swimi_: look for an apt package in /var/cache/apt/archives/ or download from https://packages.debian.org/buster/apt (bottom of page for download links)
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16:43<jmcnaught>swimi_: once you have downloaded it you can install it with a command like "dpkg -i apt_1.8.2.2_amd64.deb"
16:44<swimi_>ok, really nice, thank you
16:46<jmcnaught>,i minitube --release bullseye
16:46<judd>Package minitube (video, optional) in bullseye/amd64: Native YouTube client. Version: 3.6.1-1; Size: 1007.2k; Installed: 3475k; Homepage: http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/minitube
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17:27<dpat>swimi_: you could also try: freetube (https://freetubeapp.io/#download). Did work fine for me with buster
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18:32<cross_>Hello does anyone know how to fix GNOME Maps that will not scroll?
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23:00<abade>Hello guys
23:00<Sqrt{not}>hi abade
23:00<abade>I'm from Brazil :)
23:01<abade>Sqrt{not}: Hi bro
23:01<abade>Sqrt{not}: Where are y from?
23:02<Sqrt{not}>abade, this is not a social channel, it is for debian questions.
23:03<abade>Sqrt{not}: Ok!
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23:06<abade>What is the current version of the linux distribution? 20.04?
23:06<lhvf[m]>Hello Debian Support Channel!
23:07<lhvf[m]>Here's is the Support for Debian not Ubuntu..
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23:09<abade>Oh yes it would be debian
23:09<lhvf[m]>Off-topic: Currently Ubuntu version is 21 (yy). 04 (mm).
23:10<gry>Hi abade :-)
23:11<gry>Please join #debian-br
23:12<abade>gry: Thank you
23:12<gry>you're welcome :-)
23:12<lhvf[m]>I'm Brazilian too. And here isn't a Chat Room, it's a Official Support Channel for *#debian* Support help questions.
23:12<gry>just click the channel name to join it
23:13<abade>gry: OK! Thank you very much
23:13<gry>ok :)
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23:13<lhvf[m]>*it's an Official* (typos).
23:13<gry>lhvf[m]: hi
23:14<gry>lhvf[m]: do you see nick-service nick at the top of userlist? if you message it "!nick lhvf" then your messages will be easier to read on irc. the [m] prefix is a bit difficult to read.
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23:26<lhvf[m]>gry : Indeed I've both the two registers on OFTC.net (itself the only clean 'lhvf'), this last that I only have a usage on WebChat OFTC Client; and at Matrix.org the another it yes 'lhvf[m]', maybe complicated and confusing to IRC treat. And I do use both the two nicknames, if this is what you wasn't yet knowing the situation of my register on OFTC.net Network.. Sorry if I'm causing troubles on this Support Channel...
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23:26<gry>lhvf[m]: ok, thanks, no problem
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23:36<lhvf[m]>The messages are being swallowed for some *unknown reason* (again). *In an in anachronistic order"..
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23:39<lhvf[m]>Element Mobile App Client (formerly Riot.IM) with an old bug.
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23:49<lhvf[m]>I cannot myself until today get managed how to use and install the Mobile Android port of WeeChat on my Android. Even trying to follow the teaching of a simple Vídeo Tutorial.. *Irssi* (irssi.org) does have something similar (for Android)?
23:49<lhvf[m]>*Maybe a little bit *off-topic* anyway..
23:50<lhvf[m]>* The messages are being swallowed for some *unknown reason* (again). *In an anachronistic order"..
23:54<richard_h>lhvf[m]: have you tried in the matrix room?
23:55<richard_h>#element-web:matrix.org
23:56<richard_h>sorry, that's the web/desktop version
23:56<lhvf[m]><richard_h "lhvf: have you tried in the matr"> I've register also there. But I'm intended to use a pure IRC port for Android, working like a PC ony Smartphone.
23:56<richard_h>I'm sure there's a mobile one too
23:57<lhvf[m]>* I've register also there. But I'm intended to use a pure IRC port for Android, working like a PC on my Smartphone.
23:58<richard_h>if you're planning to use irc, I'm not sure why a problem with the Element Mobile App is relevant?
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