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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-04-28

---Logopened Wed Apr 28 00:00:22 2021
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00:03-!-simonpatapon is "Simon Patapon" on #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
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00:11-!-simonpat1 is "Simon Patapon" on #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
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00:20-!-wallacer is "quassel" on #Qubes_OS #llvm #badgeteam #ceph #mobian #bcache #moocows #freedombox #debian #qemu #ceph-devel #C #publiclab #mm #virt #bcachefs #oftc #debian-next #ovirt #aqi-data-share
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01:02-!-simonpat1 is "Simon Patapon" on #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
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01:17-!-simonpat1 is "Simon Patapon" on #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
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02:01-!-simonpat1 is "Simon Patapon" on #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
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07:06<apkef>I just got hit by curl bug !!! git unusable any more in buster!
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07:07<_>how to compile -m32?
07:07<_>on amd64?
07:07<_>hey, az?
07:08<_>alejandro?
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07:08<_>nice channel=)
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07:40<apkef>anyone has an idea how to downgrade curl?
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07:45<jm_>why would you downgrade it?
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07:52<apkef>jm_ : fatal unable to access 'https://github.com/projecthorus/radiosonde_auto_rx.git/': Failed sending HTTP2 data
07:52<GyrosGeier>apkef, "apt show -a libcurl4" should show the available versions
07:52<apkef>https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/04/14/curl-7-76-1-h2-works-again/
07:53<GyrosGeier>then you can use "apt install libcurl4=" followed by the version you want to install
07:53<GyrosGeier>no spaces
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07:56<jm_>apkef: which version of libcurl4 is installed then?
07:58<jm_>that error was only in 7.76.0, which is not in debian, so what is going on?
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07:59<apkef>I do not know! It seems that the problem is in libcurl3-gnutls
07:59<GyrosGeier>ah
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07:59<apkef>Donwgrading libcurl3-gnutls to 7.64.0-4+deb10u2 solves the problem
08:00<jm_>downgraded from which version exactly?
08:01<apkef>Unpacking libcurl3-gnutls:amd64 (7.64.0-4+deb10u2) over (7.74.0-1.2~bpo10+1) ..
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08:03<blast007>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=987187
08:03<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/987187 in libcurl3-gnutls (open): «libcurl3-gnutls from debian backports breaks git http operations»; severity: important; opened: 2021-04-19; last modified: 2021-04-19.
08:04<jm_>ok so it broker before .76 then, my bad
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08:10<apkef>maybe this bug needs to increase severity
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08:40<bremner>bugs with backports should be reported to the backports mailing list
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08:42<blast007>bullseye and sid also have libcurl3-gnutls 7.74.0, so I wonder if both of those are also broken
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08:43<bremner>I'd think that there would be a bug report if git was broken in bullseye. At least I have not noticed said breakage with https repos
08:43<apkef>blast007👍️
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08:50<apkef>It seems that git in bullseye does not need libcurl3 but libcurl4
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09:27<blast007>apkef: does it? it shows libcurl3-gnutls here
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09:50<apkef>blast007: I really do not know. sorry!
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10:50<scorpion2185[m]>Why gdm3 doesn't remeber root credentials ? Does it all depend on accountsservice? I used the immutable flag on var/lib/AccountsService/users/root.
10:50<scorpion2185[m]>And I rebuilt the accountsser. pkg changing minimum uid 1000 to 0 for human users.
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10:52<choozy>How do you display info about a package again in this channel?
10:53<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: What are you trying to achieve? Why would gdm3 remember any credentials?
10:53<petn-randall>choozy: `,v ansible` will show you all package version in all releases of ansible.
10:53<choozy>Yes
10:53<choozy>,v ssh
10:53<judd>Package: ssh on amd64 -- jessie: 1:6.7p1-5+deb8u4; jessie-security: 1:6.7p1-5+deb8u8; stretch-security: 1:7.4p1-10+deb9u6; stretch: 1:7.4p1-10+deb9u7; buster-security: 1:7.9p1-10+deb10u1; buster: 1:7.9p1-10+deb10u2; buster-backports: 1:8.4p1-2~bpo10+1; bullseye: 1:8.4p1-5; sid: 1:8.4p1-5
10:54<Sqrt{not}>,i ssh
10:54<judd>Package ssh (net, optional) in buster/amd64: secure shell client and server (metapackage). Version: 1:7.9p1-10+deb10u2; Size: 197.5k; Installed: 215k; Homepage: http://www.openssh.com/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/ssh
10:54<scorpion2185[m]>For normal users gmd3 shows the user in the users list and remember the selected GUI (xorg, wayland etc.).
10:56<scorpion2185[m]>petn-randall: I also opened a bug https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/-/issues/690
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10:58<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: The problem is that you're trying to log in as root. Why?
10:59<petn-randall>Running your DE session as root is a huge security issue by itself.
11:00<scorpion2185[m]>I really like to log in as root so I have full control
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11:01<Sqrt{not}>do you run your web browser as root?
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11:01<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: Having "full control" is unrelated to running everything as root. Just add your normal user to the sudoers group.
11:01<scorpion2185[m]>yes
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11:02<scorpion2185[m]>can you avoid to tell me that I shouldn't run as root?
11:02<scorpion2185[m]>I REALLy would like to run as root
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11:05<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: We don't teach people to shoot themselves in the foot. You'll have to do that yourself.
11:06<TimMc>You actually get less control by running as root.
11:06<scorpion2185[m]>But I don't know whats' the problem
11:06<petn-randall>You can trivially set up sudoers to not even ask for a password, so you can just start anything you need as root when you need it.
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11:08<scorpion2185[m]>Don't you feel it?
11:08<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: That might be a problem in itself :). A few examples: a) there's a RCE security hole in your browser, and you visit a site that exploits it. They've instantly taken over your whole machine, instead of just the user.
11:08<scorpion2185[m]>I am root and root is me.
11:08<Sqrt{not}>It feels like some kind of ego thing
11:09<petn-randall>b) You run a script that is buggy and does `rm -Rf /$INSTALLDIR`, but $INSTALLDIR is undefined. Instead of getting an error, you've wiped your system.
11:09<petn-randall>Also, a lot of programs refuse to run as root, which you then simply can't use.
11:10<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: Sounds like your citing some script kiddie playbook.
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11:10<petn-randall>*you're
11:11<scorpion2185[m]>wrong you can remove evi lroot check or open them as a normal user with pkexec
11:12<petn-randall>Sure, but that sounds like a lot of useless work for no gain.
11:12<scorpion2185[m]>Is someone steals my laptop while I' m logged in, they can read my email, take my money, and impersonate me to my friends,
11:12<scorpion2185[m]>But at least they can' t install drivers without my permission.
11:13<avu>yes, there are particular threats where not being logged in as root doesn't help much, that doesn't mean there are lots of scenarios where it does help
11:13<petn-randall>Has anyone told you that you can lock your screen?
11:13<scorpion2185[m]>https://xkcd.com/1200/
11:14<scorpion2185[m]>any help to fix GDM?
11:16<petn-randall>As I said, we don't teach people to shoot themselves in the foot. You'll have to do that yourself.
11:16<petn-randall>And it's like that by design, it's not a bug.
11:16<scorpion2185[m]>Where is that part?
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11:25<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: There's no need to PM me. Keep it in the channel.
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11:33<somiaj>The real question is how often do you really need root permissions once you have everything setup. I rarely have to do things as root outside of the initial setup and configuration.
11:35<jhutchins>Heh. Doing things as root is how I make a living.
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11:37<jhutchins>I use it fairly often on my home systems as well. Package updates, configuration checks and changes. Space management. Managing email for users.
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11:46<somiaj>Yea, here I'm talking about my desktop, seems when I'm root I'm usually ssh over to a remote system, a vm, or the likes (though this is a hoby of mine, not $DAYJOB)
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12:04<scorpion2185[m]>so what is removing root from the gdm3 users list?
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12:07<jhutchins>scorpion2185[m]: The sensible security caution of never logging in to a GUI as root.
12:09<segamain>how can I delete the non debian repos ? and are those the same things as sources ??
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12:10<jhutchins>segamain: Remove the entries from /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
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12:39<petn-randall>!crosspost
12:39<dpkg>Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>.
12:39<petn-randall>segamain: ^^^
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13:22<nor>I have wifi-USB but I can't use to connect to network , I don't know how? (I use armbian on andriod TV box (Tx6) )
13:23<jhutchins>nor: Unfortunately armbian != debian, and for all we know it does networking differently.
13:24<jhutchins>nor: You need the correct driver and possibly firmware for your chipset, and some way of managing the connection.
13:24<jhutchins>!armbian
13:24<dpkg>Armbian is a project that has pre-compiled custom Debian and Ubuntu installer images for <ARM> boards, and a small package repository with kernels, drivers, and utilities. It is not a complete distribution, and uses unmodified Debian or Ubuntu official package repos. kernel/hw/installer/building questions: #armbian on chat.freenode.net
13:28<nor>thank you
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18:45<nt>hey
18:45<nt>hello
18:45<sney>hi
18:45<nt>sooo
18:45<nt>what are you doing
18:46<sney>!chat
18:46<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic (either freenode or oftc) or #moocows on irc.oftc.net, ##chat on irc.freenode.net, or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/
18:46<nt> my name is nevaeh
18:46<sney>!new2irc
18:46<dpkg>You are chatting on IRC. IRC is the original group chat. Similar to platforms like Slack, Matrix, or Discord, IRC was invented in the 1980s and formalized with RFC 1459 in 1993. This channel, #debian, is for help with the debian operating system. Ask us a debian support question, or read more about IRC at https://netsplit.de or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC
18:46<nt>ello
18:46<nt>ello
18:47<nt>helo
18:47<nt>hello
18:47<nt>hello
18:47<nt>hello
18:47<sney>if you don't have a debian question, please play somewhere else.
18:48<nt>what
18:48<nt>hello
18:48<nt>hhello
18:48<nt>hello
18:49<nt>hello
18:49<nt>hello
18:49<nt>hello
18:49<nt>chat
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18:52<sney>that took longer than usual.
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20:52<mangix>anyone know why git pull gives me Failed sending HTTP2 data ?
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20:56<sarnold>mangix: I haven't seen a good explanation of that problem anmywhere yet but https://superuser.com/a/1642989 may be related, it's probably worth a quick test
20:56<sarnold>this isn't the page I was looking for, but it sure sounds familiar
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20:57<mangix>weird
20:57<mangix>wonder why gnutls is used for libcurl
20:58<sarnold>licensing, I think; the page that I was looking for, I *think* it suggested swapping the gnutls for openssl backends
20:58<sarnold>but man that memory is pretty poor
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21:09<blast007>mangix: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=987187 https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/04/14/curl-7-76-1-h2-works-again/
21:09<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/987187 in libcurl3-gnutls (open): «libcurl3-gnutls from debian backports breaks git http operations»; severity: important; opened: 2021-04-19; last modified: 2021-04-19.
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21:16<sarnold>blast007: nice
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22:29<Sqrt{not}>msg judd v libcurl3-gnutls
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22:33<judd>Package: libcurl3-gnutls on amd64 -- jessie: 7.38.0-4+deb8u11; jessie-security: 7.38.0-4+deb8u16; stretch: 7.52.1-5+deb9u10; stretch-proposed-updates: 7.52.1-5+deb9u10; stretch-security: 7.52.1-5+deb9u10; buster: 7.64.0-4+deb10u1; buster-proposed-updates: 7.64.0-4+deb10u2; buster-security: 7.64.0-4+deb10u2; buster-backports: 7.74.0-1.2~bpo10+1; bullseye: 7.74.0-1.2; sid: 7.74.0-1.2
22:36<Sqrt{not}>mangix, what another user found earlier was that downgrading that package back to 7.64.0-4+deb10u2 fixed the git problem
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