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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-05-07

---Logopened Fri May 07 00:00:34 2021
00:01-!-jm_ [flier@000125af.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:01-!-jm_ is "." on #debian
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00:05-!-diogenes_oftc is "Nicolas" on #debian
00:21-!-lunc is "lunc" on #oftc #help
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00:28-!-jkur is "jkur" on #debian-robotics #debian
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00:36-!-Zvmito is "realname" on #debian #tinker
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00:48-!-srikavin is "Srikavin Ramkumar" on #qemu-gsoc #qemu #debian
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00:48-!-craigevil is "craig" on #debian-raspberrypi #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian
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01:02-!-nu-c is "realname" on #debian
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01:16-!-strelnikov is "strelnikov" on #tor-south #tor-project #tor-mobile #tor-l10n #tor-dev #tor-bots #debian #dfri_se
01:17-!-_440Hz [~gfdsgsf@2a0b:f4c1:2::253] has joined #debian
01:17-!-_440Hz is "user" on #virtualization #redditprivacy #Qubes_OS #publiclab #linux #iovisor #debian-raspberrypi #debian-academy #debian #Corsair #cryptoparty
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01:21-!-srikavin is "Srikavin Ramkumar" on #qemu-gsoc #qemu #debian
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01:24-!-marian is "marian" on #debian
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01:42-!-Ericounet is "realname" on #freedombox #debian
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01:43-!-voyager1 is "user" on #debian
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01:48-!-moldorcoder7 is "moldorcoder7" on #virt #qemu #openvas #llvm #debian-next #debian #C
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02:02-!-syr is "epoll" on #debian #kernelnewbies
02:03-!-Voeid is now known as Guest3181
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02:03-!-Voeid is "Voeid" on #debian
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02:05-!-cpaelzer is "Christian Ehrhardt" on #qemu #virt #debian-qemu #debian
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02:05-!-gruetzko- is "gruetzkopf" on #oftc #galileo #hearsat #sgidev #msys2 #lowRISC #llvm #kernelnewbies #gc-linux #etnaviv #debian-next #debian #OpenRailwayMap
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02:05-!-TAL42_ is "TAL" on #galileo #sgidev #debian
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02:06-!-SpydarOO7 is "Spydar007" on #mastodon-administration #Mikaela #kovri #virt #supybot #spi #redditprivacy #perl #oftc #moocows #linux #linode #kovri-dev #friendica #debian
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02:06-!-sep is "Ronny Aasen <ronny@aasen.cx>" on #debian #ceph
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02:06-!-rjsalts_ is "Richard James Salts" on #packaging #otr-dev #debian-next #debian-games #debian-au #debian
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02:06-!-RoyK^ is "Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk" on #debian #debian-next
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02:07-!-demonkeeper is "arno" on #debian-next #debian
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02:09-!-goncalor_ is "goncalor" on #debian
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02:09-!-tsche3 is "tsche" on #debian
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02:09-!-esum_ is "esum" on #debian
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02:09-!-wallacer is "quassel" on #virt #qemu #ceph-devel #aqi-data-share #mobian #ceph #freedombox #debian-next #moocows #llvm #publiclab #debian #ovirt #Qubes_OS #mm #bcachefs #bcache #badgeteam #oftc #C
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02:09-!-dupondje1 is "dupondje" on #debian-lts #debian #ovirt #ceph #ext4 #virt #qemu #kernelnewbies
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02:10-!-Myon_ is "Christoph Berg DF7CB" on #help #elephant-shed #debian-devel-changes #moocows #oftc #debian
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02:10-!-sija is "A" on #debian
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02:10-!-cmn is "Carlos Martín Nieto" on #debian
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02:11-!-Kamilion|ZNC is "I am kamilion. But you knew that, didn't you." on #tardigans #moocows #linode #debian-next #debian
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02:12-!-kaylea_ is "Kaylea Champion" on #debian
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02:14-!-redlegion is "redlegion" on #oftc #debian #Qubes_OS
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02:16-!-taowa is "taowa rosetwig" on #oftc #debian-privacy #debian-nonupload #debian-quebec #debian-curiosa #Qubes_OS #debian-next #debian-gnupg
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02:17-!-erle- [~stephan@2a04:ee41:3:3297:9020:6a02:58d8:6014] has joined #debian
02:17-!-erle- is "Stephan" on #mobian #debian #debian-raspberrypi
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02:19-!-dwfreed is "dwfreed" on #redditprivacy #virt #uno #qemu-gsoc #qemu #pax #osm-fi #openttd #oftc #msys2 #moocows #llvm #linux #linode #launches #https-everywhere #help #debian-perl #debian-next #freedombox #dot #debian-zh #dcs #ck #ceph-orchestrators #ceph-devel #ceph #bcache #OpenRailwayMap #debian-au #debian
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02:20-!-krytarik is "Krytarik Raido" on #oftc #debian-next #debian
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02:20-!-tomaw_ is "Tom Wesley <tom@tomaw.net>" on #ceph #bitlbee #debian-es #debian-django #debian #oftc #help #gentoo #moocows #linux #linode #irssi #freenode #debian-ipv6
02:20-!-bgupta__ [sid299105@id-299105.brockwell.irccloud.com] has joined #debian
02:20-!-bgupta__ is "Brian Gupta" on #debian-a11y #debian #debconf-nyc
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02:20-!-craigevil is "craig" on #debian-raspberrypi #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian
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02:20-!-Kamilion is "I am kamilion. But you knew that, didn't you." on #tardigans #moocows #linode #debian-next #debian
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02:21-!-troyt_ is "Troy Telford" on #debian-next #debian-ipv6 #debian
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02:21-!-ShaRose is "ShaRose" on #debian
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02:21-!-blast007 is "blast" on #debian #debian-games
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02:22-!-heyj___ is "Jason Reule" on #debian
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02:22-!-calcmandan is "Daniel" on #debian #smoothwall #qemu #debconf-fosdem ##asm #rust #oftc #tor-bots
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02:22-!-witchmaster is "Witchmaster" on @#debian-user #mailcow #nextcloud #debian #ccc
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02:24-!-agaida__ is "Alf Gaida " on #debian
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02:26-!-devrtz is "Got ZNC?" on #salsaci #mobian #minidebconf-online #kernelnewbies #debian-swaywm #debian
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02:30-!-chomwitt is "realname" on #debian #debian-games #debian-social #debian-xfce #openstreetmap #qemu
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02:32-!-Daniel is "toolz" on #debian #ceph
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02:32-!-orel is "orel" on #debian
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02:33-!-totonika is "realname" on #debian-next #debian
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02:35-!-Muzer is "Murray Colpman" on #llvm #gc-linux #debian #OpenRailwayMap
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02:40-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #packaging #debian #debian-ai #debian-next #debian-meeting
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02:47-!-spratt is "Spratt" on #debian #debian-devel-changes #debian-next #debian-nginx #linukso #bcache #debian-lxc
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03:19-!-texou is "Stoicien" on #debian-nonupload #debian-i18n #bitlbee #debian-next #debian #debian-es #debian-devel-es #debian-devel-it #debian-l10n-fr #debian-a11y
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03:22-!-drzacek is "realname" on #packaging #linux-rt #debian-next #debian
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03:37-!-TheRuralJuror is "AP,,," on #debian-next #debian.or.at #security #debian
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03:38-!-khomenkoyv is "khomenkoyv,,," on #debian
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04:58<duszek>I have an "/usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set" error, how do I solve that?
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05:02<muppet>duszek: chown root.root /usr/bin/sudo && chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo
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05:50<adhawkins>Hi all. I have a Debian VM that regularly fails to deactivate swap on shutdown. As such, the shutdown stalls as it tries to 'stop' all of the disk partitions. Typically I have to do a forced shutdown to get past this. Any thoughts on how I can debug this to work out the cause?
05:50<adhawkins>The 5 'stop' jobs that are running have no limit on them, so it hangs at this point.
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05:51<adhawkins>This is the console as it's 'stuck' (apologies it's an image, can't easily copy the text from the VM console)
05:51<adhawkins>https://pasteboard.co/K0LQFap.png
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06:08<GyrosGeier>adhawkins, that normally happens with encrypted disks
06:09<GyrosGeier>in general, deactivating swap shouldn't be necessary
06:09<GyrosGeier>except for when swap lives on an encrypted disk
06:09<adhawkins>It's not an encrypted disk GyrosGeier
06:09<adhawkins>It is LVM though
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06:11<GyrosGeier>ah
06:11<GyrosGeier>that's likely LVM locking
06:11<adhawkins>Any way to stop it happening? I have numerous VMs and most don't suffer from this.
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06:12<GyrosGeier>the problem is that the LVM event daemon is shut down, and the lvchange to deactivate the swap partition tries to talk to it
06:15<GyrosGeier>the hacky solution would be to make sure the lvchange to deactivate the volumes using --ignorelockingfailure
06:15<GyrosGeier>but obviously that's not entirely safe
06:16<GyrosGeier>possible --ignoremonitoring would also work
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06:16<adhawkins>Ok. But the other partitions it's trying to deactivate are also LVM I think.
06:17<adhawkins>It's rotating around 5 things that it's trying to stop.
06:18<xlm>JOIN #debian-offtopic
06:18<xlm>oops
06:18<adhawkins>Ah, thought that was a suggestion for me xlm. All becomes clear now :)
06:19<xlm>no, sorry
06:19<xlm>how to join channels again
06:19<xlm>?
06:19<GyrosGeier>the problem is clear, but I don't speak systemd well enough to fix it
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06:19<bremner>xlm: /join #foo
06:19<xlm>ty
06:19<GyrosGeier>there is a dependency loop between dmeventd, LVM volumes and the root filesystem
06:20<GyrosGeier>the root fs uses LVM, so it keeps dmeventd open until it's unmounted (which is really a remount to readonly)
06:20<GyrosGeier>so the dmeventd shuts down after the root fs has gone readonly
06:21<GyrosGeier>so the dmeventd socket isn't cleaned up, because at this point deletion of named sockets is no longer possible
06:21<xlm>debian 11 release wen
06:22<GyrosGeier>so the following lvm invocations try to connect to it, as they expect it to be there
06:23<GyrosGeier>the easiest solution I could see would be to delay stopping dmeventd
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06:23<xlm>where can i share the unofficial debian server link?
06:23<xlm>needs more folks in there
06:24<GyrosGeier>AFAIK, dmeventd does not keep any file descriptors open for writing specifically so it doesn't block remounting root
06:24<GyrosGeier>hmm wait
06:24<xlm>i am a "co-server owner" there ^^
06:26<GyrosGeier>anyway, the list of possible solutions is:
06:27<GyrosGeier>1. use --nomonitor in the lvchange commands to deactivate volumes
06:27<GyrosGeier>sorry
06:27<GyrosGeier>--ignoremonitor
06:27<GyrosGeier>2. use --ignorelockingfailure in the lvchange commands
06:28<GyrosGeier>3. delay root fs umount behind dmeventd shutdown
06:28<GyrosGeier>4. remove the dmeventd socket before root remount
06:29<GyrosGeier>any of these should work, but it would need someone with systemd knowledge to say where to change things without breaking other things
06:29<xlm>anyone using mobian on the pinephone or librem 5 or dare i ask, the librem 5 usa?
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06:34<bremner>xlm: /join #mobian
06:34<xlm>ooh
06:34<xlm>y didn't i think of that lol
06:34<xlm>ty
06:34<bremner>sure!
06:35<adhawkins>GyrosGeier: Sadly that's beyond my knowledge of systemd too.
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06:53<Guest3217>hi
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06:55<Guest3217>i have found this Script : #!/bin/sh/usr/bin/curl -s --head --request GET https://sitetocheck.com | if ! grep "200 OK"; then pm2 restart httpd fi
06:55<Guest3217>I am using Hidden Vm (virtual box in Tails ) .. Does is possible to Received help to use This Script in tails To close 1 Virtual machine if we curl a website and is Down
06:55<bremner>that shebang looks wrongb
06:55<esum_>!tails
06:55<dpkg>Tails (The Amnesic Incognito Live System) is a live DVD/USB <based on Debian>, with the aim of preserving privacy and anonymity. It is not supported in #debian. https://tails.boum.org/ #tails on irc.oftc.net.
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06:56<Guest3217>yess but i am using hidden vm
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06:56<Guest3217>is Maybe not the safest what i do but if possible to received help for the script that wil lbe apreciated thanks
06:57<esum>You pasted multiple lines in one message ?
06:57<Guest3217>sorry
06:57<esum>You can use http://paste.debian.net/
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06:58<Guest3217>yess 1 sec
06:59<Guest3217>http://paste.debian.net/1196618/
06:59<Guest3217>i need to modify That To in Tails With Hidden vm Like explain I want to if if is try to Reach a website and is Offline i want to in tails that restart 1 virtual machine ! named whonixGaT
07:00<Guest3217>thank
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07:08<esum>You can do this I think http://paste.debian.net/1196619/
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07:15<Anon53>Hey hi all , I would like to know in whonix how to create and host a HexChat Server Securely over tor !
07:15<Anon53>i know already how to Create an Hidden Service tor but Not for A Server Hex !!
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07:18<dpkg>Whonix is a Linux distribution based on Debian, distributed as two virtual machine images. It is not supported in #debian; ask me about <based on debian>. http://whonix.org/ #whonix on irc.oftc.net. If you are new to linux try Debian instead: https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian
07:20<Anon53>okais
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07:40<choozy>Anon53, you can make an IRC server as a hidden service if you'd like?
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09:06<fifthforce>How do I install latest I2P on debian
09:06<fifthforce>I use debian 10
09:07<petn-randall>fifthforce: What's wrong with the version shipped with stable?
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09:09<fifthforce>I get notification that update has been blocked.
09:09<fifthforce>I am stuck with 0.9.38
09:10<bremner>itym 0.9.48 ?
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09:11<bremner>oh wait.
09:11<petn-randall>,v i2p
09:11<judd>Package: i2p on amd64 -- buster: 0.9.38-3.1; bullseye: 0.9.48-1; sid: 0.9.48-1
09:11<bremner>my bad
09:11<dreamer>wait a couple months
09:11<petn-randall>fifthforce: You can ignore those, though I'm surprised it wasn't patched out of the Debian package.
09:11<dreamer>or take the rist and move to bullseye
09:11<dreamer>(backports?)
09:12<bremner>there is no official backport of i2p
09:12<petn-randall>dreamer: There's no backport, judd's message would have it otherwise.
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09:13<dreamer>ok :)
09:13<dreamer>(figured, but still)
09:13<dreamer>fifthforce: build from source?
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09:16<loll>fifthforce: it's suggested to use the installer instead of the repo
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09:17<loll>when you upgrade from the repo it can reset all your settings
09:17<loll>I mean, that's what I see being suggested usually
09:17<petn-randall>loll: I'm pretty sure no one in here suggests this. Where does this info come from?
09:18<loll>petn-randall: yeah my last message was meant to specify that's only my experience...
09:19<loll>comes from the i2p network, not that there is a consensus
09:20<loll>I mean, that's simply what was told to me more than once
09:22<petn-randall>Usually there preference in here is: stable package > backports package > backporting yourself > build package with checkinstall > manually install from source
09:23<petn-randall>The problem with manually installing is that it depends entirely on upstream if you can remove the software again, or cleanly upgrade. And given that there's a plethora of distros, chances are not so good that it won't cleanly uninstall again.
09:23<fifthforce>I am on Qubes
09:28<loll>petn-randall: I admit I'm a stranger here, but I also prefer to install from the stable repo, but the latest upgrade changed too many settings and this annoyed me. your points are good though and will take them into consideration.
09:30<fifthforce>I ran the command for sid
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09:30<fifthforce>sudo apt-get install i2p
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09:33<petn-randall>fifthforce: Are you running sid now? I'm asking because you said you were running Debian 10.
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09:35<petn-randall>On sid you'll get 0.9.48-1, which is close to the latest release from upstream.
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09:35<Guest3223>Hello
09:35<fifthforce>No buster. However I couldn't find /etc/apt/sources.list.d/i2p.list in my files and add lines
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09:35<loll>just create it
09:36<fifthforce>give me the command
09:36<petn-randall>fifthforce: I don't understand what you did. /etc/apt/sources.list.d/i2p.list doesn't exist, unless you create it. Did you add new entries to your sources.list?
09:36<loll>sudo touch /etc/apt/sources.list.d/i2p.list
09:37<fifthforce>as a last resort I typed the command for sid
09:37<loll>but yes you can simply add the lines to sources.list
09:37<fifthforce>I do not know how to create and add the lines
09:38<fifthforce>create the files and add the lines
09:38<loll>well the command I give you is to create a file, then you can edit with an editor like nano and the sudo command
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09:38<loll>or gedit
09:38<fifthforce>please
09:38<loll>sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/i2p.list
09:39<petn-randall>loll: And add what exactly? I'm not sure you're giving helpful advice.
09:39<fifthforce>My i2p is running
09:39<fifthforce>should i stop that first
09:39<loll>you add:
09:39<loll>deb https://deb.i2p2.de/ buster main
09:39<loll>deb-src tor+https://deb.i2p2.de/ buster main
09:40<loll>I thought he knew
09:40<loll>wait if i2prouter is running already you probably already have the repo in sources.list
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09:41<loll>petn-randall: I assumed he was following the i2p guide but simply didn't know how to edit the repos
09:41<petn-randall>You should add that this will add a 3rd party apt repo to the system.
09:41<loll>petn-randall: sorry I don't know the rules here, I was trying to help because the task seemed to be easy enough for me
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09:43<loll>anyway yeah, fifthforce, i2p.list is for a 3rd party repo
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09:44<loll>wasn't trying to have you download some ransomware lol
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09:57<loll>fifthforce: I was helping you following the guide from the official i2p project website, so would have to install apt-transport-https to enable https support for apt, then add those lines to i2p.list, this way you would have added a 3rd party, which is less secure but gives you the latest release of the i2prouter.
09:59<loll>but you seem to already have i2p installed from the sid repo so I think you can be ok with the 0.9.48 release anyway
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10:00<fifthforce>I do not have the 0.9.48 I have 0.9.38-3.1
10:00<loll>*you would have added a 3rd party repo
10:00<sney>https is built into apt 1.5+, so buster and up do not need apt-transport-https to enable it
10:03<fifthforce>I am on Qubes . I am running I2P in AppVm based on Debian-10 template VM
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10:05<loll>sney: cool, then I'll soon shut up since I'm making a mess it seems
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10:07<fifthforce>At qubes we do not have access to root /
10:07<loll>fifthforce: why don't you familiarize yourself with debian stable before using qubes? or stick to i2p 0.9.38 if you don't encounter any issue with it, just my 2 cents
10:09<fifthforce>ok
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10:50<mendel_munkis>is it possible to run strings on /proc/x/mem?
10:50<petn-randall>!tias
10:50<dpkg>TIAS is "Try It And See".
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10:52<mendel_munkis>It failed. I am more wondering if there is some arguement combination I should be using.
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10:53<petn-randall>mendel_munkis: Well, that answered the original question.
10:53<mendel_munkis>yup it did.
10:53<petn-randall>!goal
10:53<dpkg>Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is.
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10:54<mendel_munkis>Is there any efficient way to extract all strings containing http from /proc/x/*
10:55<mendel_munkis>(with emphasis on mem)
10:55<somiaj>still sounds like an XY problem, are you trying to figure out much memeory certain apps/processes are taking?
10:55<petn-randall>mendel_munkis: That is still a solution you're thinking of. Why do you want to do that? What's your goal?
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10:56<petn-randall>mendel_munkis: I can only guess what it is, but I'm thinking there are easier solutions.
10:57<mendel_munkis>my actual problem is how to get URLs ofopen tabs out of a misbehaving firefox, however I know of two other ways of doing it, the original problem led me to wonder if this is possible.
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11:15<somiaj>mendel_munkis: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/6301/how-do-i-read-from-proc-pid-mem-under-linux -- Maybe has some useful info
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11:58<mendel_munkis>ended up going with a corrected memdump from that page | strings | grep
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13:59<duszek>after I ran aptitude reinstall '~i' I get this error: "E: Can't find a source to download version '4.19.160-2' of 'linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64:amd64'", how do I fix this?
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14:03<towo`>duszek, you can't
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14:04<towo`>4.19.160-2 is not in the repo anymore
14:04<somiaj>well you can, but you have to add sources from snapshot.debian.org -- though I wouldn't go through the hassel
14:04<somiaj>duszek: why are you reinstalling everything?
14:04<somiaj>I would skip that one for instance, since it is just an older kernel
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14:19<duszek>somiaj: because I have accidentally set wrong permissions in /bin and I managed to recover from that
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14:23<somiaj>duszek: you shouldn't need to reinstall everything for that, use dpkg -S /bin/foo to just reinstall packages that own files there
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14:25<duszek>one of unix: (5) don't fsck with package management
14:25<duszek>is it safe to run dpkg when i use apt as my pkg manager?
14:25<duszek>can apt get desynchronized?
14:27<somiaj>dpkg is the core package manager, apt just is a front end that knows about where to get packages from the internet
14:27<dpkg>somiaj: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
14:28<somiaj>you can use dpkg/apt/aptitude without worring about that, they all end up using the same dpkg as the core tool database of packages.
14:28<duszek>somiaj: ok, but can apt get desynchronized if I use dpkg directly?
14:28<somiaj>synamptic should also be in this list, but it has historically not played nicely, and since I don't use it, I don't know.
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14:29<somiaj>duszek: nope, because apt uses dpkg to know what is currently installed and how to install things, only thing apt does is it knows how to pull packages from the internet, and knows how packages depend on each other so it can pull in groups of packages to install nicely
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14:30<duszek>somiaj: So apt always parses what dpkg will tell it, do I understand it right?
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15:09<duszek>somiaj: So apt always parses what dpkg will tell it, do I understand it right?
15:10<sarnold>they both work with the same database, if that's what you're asking
15:10<petn-randall>duszek: Sort of, yeah. You can't use apt without also using dpkg.
15:11<duszek>thanks
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15:37<duszek>I'm trying to open synaptic package manager from menu and nothing happens
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15:40<duszek>How do I solve this problem?
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16:10<Tas-sos>I download a csv from google with URL : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/....
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16:11<Tas-sos>with the wget command, but many times I got some fields ( this fields have functions like lookup )
16:12<Tas-sos>with wrong values like "#NAME" because, doesn't loaded yet the actual value
16:12<Tas-sos>can I avoid this ? Can I get some times to load everything in the CSV and after that to dwonload it ?
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16:23<sarnold>Tas-sos: this sounds more like a question to ask your google docs support contact
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16:48<Tas-sos>xaxa ^_^ you aren't wrong yes
16:48<Tas-sos>xaxa but just I want to share my thought with you
16:50<sarnold>yeah, it makes sense, if someone here knows, it'll be *way* faster :)
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19:41<needhelpwithdeb>hi guys, im trying to get access to my machine at home from outside but i cant even seem to get through with a ssh connection. I port forwarded and tried exposed host too in my router settings. iptables were set to accept all and also tried drop with only ssh port open in there too. nothing seems to work. Please someone help me.
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19:45<Sqrt{not}>needhelpwithdeb, what happens when you try? how does it not work? do you see anything in the debian machines logs when you try?
19:46<needhelpwithdeb>well i tried connecting from my vps and got "ssh: connect to host IPV6here port 13555: Permission denied"
19:47<needhelpwithdeb>oh and yes that port is in Listen of the sshd and I can connect to ssh on that machine in my local network via port 22 and port 13555
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19:50<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: can you telnet to that address and port?
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20:06<needhelpwithdeb>sarnold: Is that "telnet ipv6 port" ? Also which ipv6 should i use? The router shows me a different one than when i use like "curl -6 icanhazip.com"
20:09<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: oh, that's interesting. I assumed if you had an ipv6 address that it would be *yours*, but the fact that your router shows you something different than an external website makes me wonder if you've got a stupid IPv6 NAT by your isp, or if they've got a transparent proxy or something similar
20:09<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: I'd expect using the address seen by icanhasip, or google's "what's my ip", etc, to work, but there's no promises if your isp is playing games with your traffic
20:10<needhelpwithdeb>the thing is i cant join the minecraft server (papermc) either over any of those ip addresses of the debian pc. I could however join one running on my windows laptop behind same router...
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20:11<needhelpwithdeb>cant use ipv4 btw if i got it right since its dslite and people share the same ip kind of? not sure about the ipv6 one but my friend could join the mc server on my laptop
20:12<needhelpwithdeb>Oh and telnet instantly throws "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Permission denied" ( ipv6 taken from icanhazip.com with curl )
20:13<needhelpwithdeb>If I use the one shown in router (where i port forward) it seems to try to connect and doesnt show anything for few seconds after "Trying 2a02:8109:8400:56a4:cc6e:e4d7:398f:f282..." but then it shows "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host"
20:13<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: that immediate permission denied from telnet suggests to me that whatever computer you're using has been blocked from doing those connections, perhaps via a firewall on the computer itself, perhaps a router along the way
20:14<sarnold>that waiting a bit suggests a firewall *off* the machine, or wrong IP..
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20:37<needhelpwithdeb>sarnold: i tried all i could think of :/
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20:38<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: can you run traceroute or tcptraceroute from that machine to your home IP? that might also be useful
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20:39<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: it'd be way easier, I think, to work on this once you're actually back home, since you could spin up an aws or azure or something machine, ssh to it, and then try to ssh back home, and see what the errors are, compare against local log files, etc etc
20:39<needhelpwithdeb>only thing is that i had sometimes issues downloading stuff on this local debian machine. its using some awus usb wifi. rn seems to work though. so the ethernet one is actually just connected to a switch and to my laptop rn nothing else.
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20:40<needhelpwithdeb>oh im actually at home and thats exactly what im trying, from a vps of my buddy i try to ssh into the home pc.
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20:42<needhelpwithdeb>and traceroute seems to end in the actual routers ip
20:42<somiaj>could the router be not forwarding correctly? Is there a dmz option where you can just forward all traffic to this machine?
20:43<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: oh! nice nice :)
20:44<needhelpwithdeb>well idk tbh i hosted a mc server once on my laptop and my friend could join. behind same router with wifi. but trying that with this debian one it just wont work... also i think there is no DMZ? i couldnt find one at least its a fritz box. there is an option for Exposed host ipv4/ipv6 but that seems to not do anything either just like port forwarding didnt do anything on it...
20:45<somiaj>do you have a wired machine on the network, or could you run a wire for testing?
20:46<needhelpwithdeb>i cant use a wire rn for the router, also there might be a slight difference in wifi since my laptop is using the 5ghz and the debian is using 2.4ghz but else it should be same
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20:52<needhelpwithdeb>also weird if i use icanhazip.com for both it traceroutes very quickly. but if i use the ip in router its only fast for the laptop. the debian one adds one more after the last hop and that one takes 3 seconds! "11 2a02:8109:8000:8:e435:b30b:f405:bf09 (2a02:8109:8000:8:e435:b30b:f405:bf09) 26.441 ms 22.755 ms 31.432 ms 12 2a02:8109:8000:8:e435:b30b:f405:bf09 (2a02:8109:8000:8:e435:b30b:f405:bf09) 3093.376 ms !H 3096
20:52<needhelpwithdeb>and its same ip lol ....?
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21:59<needhelpwithdeb>ok so the two different ips... i can change the ip in the port forwarding site of my router (you normally just select the pc name and it autofills it) but yeah after changing last 4 quartetts to the one that icanhazip showed it now works for the http server :D
21:59<needhelpwithdeb>ofc ipv4 wont still work unless i use another vps + 6tunnel i guess since dslite ... but yeah i hope all will soon be ipv6 so i dont have to worry about that xD
22:01<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: sweet, so you've got some success there?
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22:04<needhelpwithdeb>yes i can ssh from the extern vps to my home server finally and apparently also do minecraft (but i need to do 6tunnel for that or use a domain idk you cant connect by putting in an ipv6 in minecraft client lol)
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22:05<needhelpwithdeb>sarnold: and i cant access it from my phone Lte mobile network but im guessing that is because that is only ipv4
22:08<needhelpwithdeb>but i can access it via vps with a 6tunnel though
22:08<needhelpwithdeb>i found this in a random forum post ... i had to search so long >: "https://www.computerbase.de/forum/threads/fritz-box-ds-lite-portfreigabe-fuer-ipv6.1696963/"
22:08<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: mobile phone networks are crazysauce; I've heard things like "ipv6 but everybody is behind CGNAT" with ipv4 handed out rarely / only when needed or using tunneling or something like that
22:09<needhelpwithdeb>thx @everyone for helping me
22:09<needhelpwithdeb>hmmm yeah idk much about those either .... but it works now! not the prettiest solution but yeah lol its a 1€ vps for tunneling pretty much now
22:10<needhelpwithdeb>tunneling ipv4 clients to my homeserver*
22:11<needhelpwithdeb>adds bit of delay but i can live with that
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22:13<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: woo :) probably fine for minecraft; maybe only slightly annoying for ssh; probably a big deal for first-person shooters, hehe
22:14<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: take a look at 'mosh' some time, if the ssh latency is bad
22:14<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: mosh uses ssh for auth, and then does udp from the two machines, and sends just screen updates, rather than all the data; it's got clever IP-address-change following tricks, too
22:15<sarnold>needhelpwithdeb: I honestly don't know how well it works with forwarding, but you might be able to sort out a way to use it that doesn't require the forwarding anyway
22:15<needhelpwithdeb>i mean it says 50 ms in minecraft when looking at the server with ip of the VPS
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22:16<needhelpwithdeb>oh whats mosh lol, ssh is pretty ok too with this little delay, i just meant it adds more delay since it has to go over another vps before going to my server :D
22:16<sarnold>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosh_(software)
22:17<needhelpwithdeb>actually i remember the ssh client "Termius" on my phone had a toggle to use mosh or not huh
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22:23<needhelpwithdeb>Ah I see the use: Mosh maintains its session even when "roams"
22:24<needhelpwithdeb>altho idk how that would work if i use the vps to tunnel from ipv4 to the ipv6 , since i cant use ipv4 to connect to my home stuff
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22:46<needhelpwithdeb>so 6tunnel only works for tcp apparently? how would i do the same for udp though?
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23:08<needhelpwithdeb>Ok so using this (in screen so i can exit) works : "socat -T15 UDP4-LISTEN:9987,reuseaddr,fork UDP6:[IPV6]:9987 &# voiceport"
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