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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-05-09

---Logopened Sun May 09 00:00:37 2021
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02:30<ava>Hello, could I get some help regarding switching from firewall from iptables+ufw to nftables(+firewalld (maybe))?
02:34<ava>For example on ufw I used default (deny), and then allowed these:
02:34<ava>sudo ufw allow 53
02:34<ava>sudo ufw allow 53/tcp
02:34<ava>sudo ufw allow 53/udp
02:35<ava>How would I translate this for nftables (or firewalld if that's 'better'?
02:35<ava>)
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04:36<aghahasaan>I love Debian, and with all due respect I think its time to get rid of pre installed apache2 already I love apache as well :p
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07:09<altiki>is torbrowser-launcher package safe (or at least safer than using torproject.org website)?
07:10<altiki>666 people now, the devil would hate if someone joined or left :-)
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07:36<FOSSGuy[m]>What's wrong with torproject.org website?
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08:25<marcih>hello! has the way initrd is generated and installed changed between buster and bullseye?
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08:34<marcih>actually, on second thought, i probably ought to ask this in #debian-next
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09:23<jolokia>jm312.freeshell.net check this out
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09:25<abrotman>oh, I can't wait!
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20:13<sappheiros>Would you recommend a particular Calendar and Reminders program like macOS has?
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20:15<somiaj>sappheiros: often time there is a choice of what you prefer. I would start out with any your DE might have. What DE are you running?
20:15<sappheiros>in Synaptic Package Manager ccal homepage leads to a page not found error http://unicorn.us.com/cal.html -- should I report this on some webpage?
20:15<sappheiros>somiaj, how do I check? I think I am using Cinnamon. I searched the menu for 'cal' and there appears no default Calendar installed.
20:17<somiaj>You could report a bug, though that software just seems a bit old and undermatained, last upload was 2018, and even then the upstream had a newer version.
20:18<sappheiros>What is the difference or definitions of upload and upstream?
20:18<somiaj>upload was the last time a new package was added to debian (and even then it was just a small bugfix)
20:18<somiaj>upstream is the source's origin, since debian only repackages things
20:22<somiaj>well I found an xfce one orage, but appears to be no longer in debian after buster.
20:25<somiaj>I also see the gnome-calendar
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20:31<sappheiros>debian only repackages things? what's upstream of debian?
20:31*sappheiros gasps
20:31*sappheiros does things out of order sometimes
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20:32<sappheiros>so I should try the gnome-calendar as an iCal replacement? do you use reminders?
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20:32<somiaj>Some packages upstream is debian, but outside of the core debian utilities, most of debian is a repackaging of other software.
20:33<somiaj>sappheiros: try it out and see, there are some other calendar apps. I personally don't use any.
20:33<somiaj>sappheiros: you could also just try out ccal, just install it, if you don't like it, uninstall
20:35<sappheiros>is there a way to show only packages currently maintained? you speak as if that one may have been abandoned
20:36<sappheiros>e.g. a filter "show only apps updated within the past year"? ... hm. maybe that's a poor heuristic as it would exclude apps that didn't need fixing
20:37<somiaj>I wouldn't use that as an indicator, some apps just don't need much maintance
20:39<somiaj>sappheiros: have you tried ccal yet, or just don't like it desen't have a homepage?
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20:44<sappheiros>somiaj, the latter: I was hoping to avoid my years-prior Ubuntu experience of struggling with broken packages. I have also realized -- I am reading McKeown's 2014 _Essentialism_ -- that I was procrastinating bigger issues, that I don't *need* to install a Calendar or Reminders app on this PC right now.
20:46<somiaj>well debian will not release a broken package (what we call rc-bugs), so if packages are broken they must be fixed or removed before the release
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20:47<somiaj>(note this doesn't mean bug free, it just means no serious/grave bugs)
20:47<somiaj>but anyways, just try out the software, if you don't like it remove it
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20:50<sappheiros>rc-bugs: rc- = ?
20:50<sappheiros>Release-Crashing Bugs?
20:50<sappheiros>thanks for the recommendation
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20:51<somiaj>well release critical
20:51<sappheiros>oh. thanks.
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23:56<rajulocal>sappheiros: The 'rc' in rc-bugs stands for release-critical. It means the bug will have an impact on releasing the package with the stable release of Debian. Any bug that is of severity level critical, grave and serious is an rc-bug as described in https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities .
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