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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-05-19

---Logopened Wed May 19 00:00:47 2021
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02:39<aidalgol>When I add my own system users for my own system services, should I always add a corresponding system group?
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02:41<twb>aidalgol: in general yes
02:41<twb>aidalgol: however you might want to just use DynamicUser=yes
02:42<twb>i.e. make it systemd's problem
02:42<twb>I think tmpfiles.d can also make persistent system accounts? I don't remember exactly where that is.
02:43<aidalgol>twb: I've been using that where possible, and just using nogroup for the group.
02:43<aidalgol>Is there any reason *not* to do this?
02:43<twb>aidalgol: if you have 3 services all using nogroup, then they can attack each other
02:44<twb>(depending on umasks &c)
02:44<aidalgol>ah...
02:45<twb>A good reason to use DynamicUser= is that it implicitly forces on a bunch of OTHER lockdown options without having to specify them explicitly
02:46<aidalgol>I don't seem to be able to use that when I need persistent storage for the services.
02:46<aidalgol>So far, I just have znc and qbittorrent-daemon as services.
02:46<aidalgol>Neither of which seem to have been written to be run outside a normal user session, so it's kinda hacky.
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05:28<Hash>In case freenode shuts down due to their nonsensical politics, I am here!
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05:35<themill>lucky us
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05:36<Hash>Very lucky.
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05:40<aidalgol>Hash: #debian-offtopic is over there
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05:43<twb>aidalgol: you can't have only a dynamic group
05:43<twb>dynamicuser does group as well
05:43<aidalgol>twb: oh...
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06:15<shtrb>[buster] what permissions and apps should a non graphical user have so I could start flatpak gui apps over ssh -X ? I need to run skype, teams and a few other apps over ssh
06:15<shtrb>?
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06:41<jm_>shtrb: you don't need special permissions, ssh server must allow X11 forwarding
06:42<jm_>but keep in mind remote X11 apps can be slow
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06:44<shtrb>jm_, all non dbus apps work with X forwarding for me , the problem is specific to flatpak
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06:51<Osprey_Jr>Where in Debian 10 with Gnome on Wayland can I put a command, that will be executed as root after login of any user? Thanks!
06:51<jm_>shtrb: ahh right, haven't used flatpak yet, but can't you port forward that with ssh too?
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06:51<shtrb>I don't know what to forward , I even was able to minize it to try to ssh to a different user on the same machine and do ssh -X and run skype to see if it work and it also fail
06:52<shtrb>so it must be some kind of dbus / flatpak magic
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06:52<shtrb>jm_, that something specific to flatpak
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06:59<jm_>shtrb: it's probably connecting to dbus over a socket, most likely AF_LOCAL, but not sure how easy would be to figure out which one - does it work if you try to run dbus-launch first?
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07:05<shtrb>no ,
07:06<shtrb>I have tried by running eval $(dbus-launch) , then running flatpak run ...
07:07<shtrb>jm_, do you mean I should be passing my local dbus bus address to the remote apps ?
07:10<jm_>shtrb: that probably won't work without forwarding, but what to forward ...
07:10<shtrb>Even on local machine it does not seem to work :-(
07:12<jm_>flatpak-run?
07:12<shtrb>"flatpak run"
07:13<shtrb>Oh you mean to get the shell script ?
07:13<jm_>hmm sadly I don't have the time to test it myself these days
07:14<shtrb>Thank you for your time
07:14<jm_>shtrb: I meant one needs to know where flatpak dbus tries to connect so you could then forward that to your local dbus session
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07:27<sappheiros>if sudo apt update / sudo apt upgrade doesn't install anything new, and lsb_release -a indicates I'm running Debian 10, then does that imply I'm running 10.9 as this channel topic shows is the latest? My confusion is that the commands I've tried executing suggest only '10', not '10.9'.
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07:31<localhorst>If you want to check the point release you can check the content of /etc/debian_version
07:31<ydbi>sappheiros: see /etc/debian_version
07:32<sappheiros>and I tried checking for updates because I just discovered the KINESIS Freestyle 2 keyboard doesn't work well with the keyboard shortcuts GUI: I cannot set Fn+F11 as a shortcut, because the function key turns on a light and a 'function lock' mechanism, so it's not registering the key combination. I was going to ask what I ought to do about it, but first figured I should try to see if any updates were available ...
07:33<sappheiros>ydbi, please elaborate: My /etc directry doesn't have a debian_version folder
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07:33<ydbi>sappheiros: it's a text file
07:34<sappheiros>ugh, right. i'll go make coffee. that text file does show 10.9. thanks
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07:34<sappheiros>i suppose i jumped to that conclusion being familiar with macOS/win putting '.txt' for text files
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07:37<ydbi>we don't do that here in linux land
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07:39<sappheiros>i noticed ... why not? it seems to create a problem when creating a text file and then trying to open it on the other two OS
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07:41<bremner>because we have better ways to tell the type of files
07:41<bremner>see e.g. man file
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07:42<bremner>anyway, it's an old (lack of) convention that predates windows and macOS
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07:44<twb>bremner: filesystems supported file types in the 1970s or 1980s. It was only the small crap personal computers that didn't.
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07:48<bremner>well, magic numbers are kindof a hack, so I don't want to get too smug
07:49<twb>What magic number?
07:49<twb>I was thinking of VMS
07:50<bremner>yeah, but we are in #debian
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07:50<twb>"A fully specified filename consists of a nodename, a username and password, a device name, directory, filename, file type, and a version number, in the format"
07:51<twb>bremner: well Debian ships SBCL which supports such path specifications.
07:51<twb>For some reason Python's newer implementation chose NOT to >_>
07:51<bremner>I guess my point is that this detailed historical perspective is not that useful to new Debian users.
07:52<twb>GNU/Linux also supports HFS+ which still has Creator and Type metadata, although I don't know if anything can usefully use these anymore
07:55<twb>Incidentally, Oracle's java and Apple's cups both have entirely independent file magic databases from the main system one.
07:56<shtrb>what file magic exist in cups ?
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07:56<twb>shtrb: if you send a file to print to cups, it guesses the MIME type based on magic
07:57<twb>It then has its own internal make clone to find the shortest path of conversions to turn that into a format the printer understands
07:57<shtrb>oh
07:57<twb>It's really awful, so you should always only print PDF or JPEG to an IPP-Everywhere conformant printer, and ideally we can phase out cups entirely in the next 5 years
07:58<twb>Cups will still convert "PDF" to "printer PDF" tho
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07:58<shtrb>why would we need to phase out cups ? it just works and allow us to have a nice and sane printer service
08:00<arahael>And most importantly, lets applications just print to a "local" printer - leaving cups to handle the middleman work.
08:00<shtrb>yep
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08:01<grawity>bremner: not a big fan of magic numbers especially when it comes to formats that are really just zip containers or tarballs, then it becomes even more of a hack... like, how do you distinguish an .odt from a .docx from a .jar? (some of them have a special file containing the mime-type that's always first in the archive, and always uncompressed, but jeez that just feels extremely hacky
08:01<grawity>to have this logic in e.g. a file manager)
08:01<shtrb>I have several printers, I just setup cups to handle them and then each debian machine interact with that cups server
08:02<bremner>grawity: sure, but also not a fan of security bugs from trusting file extensions
08:02<bremner>foo.jpg.exe anyone?
08:02<shtrb>If only we had file utility
08:02<grawity>bremner: but then you get the opposite, imagine opening a foo.zip and having it run ans an executable
08:02<grawity>(which can literally! even on windows!)
08:03<grawity>e.g. some famous MSIE bugs were due to it *not* trusting the Content-Type of image files and looking at magic numbers
08:03<sappheiros>yeah the conversation kind of started going over my head >_> so basically you're saying linux wasn't using .txt suffix then microsoft decided to add them and macOS went along with it and linux went "naah we don't need them"
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08:03<grawity>in Windows command line, if you type ".\foo.zip" it'll open the archive in Winzip -- unless it has PE executable magic, in which case it'll run as an executable despite not having an .exe suffix
08:04<sappheiros>PE?
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08:05<bremner>sappheiros: your understanding of the history is basically correct
08:05<grawity>Windows equivalent of ELF binaries
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08:09<twb>I think *technically* DOS had three-byte file types, and just happened to store them as ".XXX", and people started doing that directly in strings?
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08:11<qrpnxz>did you guys see the global ann from jess?
08:11<qrpnxz>nvm wrong place
08:13<grawity>twb: as in MS-DOS? no, kinda like the opposite -- FAT stores them without the dot (fixed-size fields), but when *accessing* the file you have to specify both the name and the .ext
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08:14<twb>I think that's what I was trying to say
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08:14<grawity>so if you have to specify it as part of the name, it isn't much of a type, it's part of the name
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08:14<twb>I was gonna say "display them as .XXX" but then I was liek "wait didn't it have a huge blank space"
08:15<twb>I've only ever used FreeDOS
08:15<grawity>I think 'dir' output did show it as a separate column, but that's about it
08:16<Osprey_Jr>Where in Debian 10 with Gnome on Wayland can I put a command, that will be executed as root after login of any user? Thanks!
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08:22<shtrb>qrpnxz, that was for freenode which is now crashing
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10:26<Osprey_Jr>twb: Oh, thank you... but this is for direct execution rather than scripted, right?
10:28<Osprey_Jr>I was thinking about running a command in /etc/gdm3/PreSession/Default or something, but it was not working.
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10:30<Osprey_Jr>It's just that intel_reg must be run as root, once any user logs in. But with Wayland it seems a bit different now.
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10:38<twb>Osprey_Jr: what soes intel_reg do?
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11:05<Osprey_Jr>twb: It's setting registers in Intel chipsets
11:06<twb>Osprey_Jr: why would that be related to a GUI at all?
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11:06<Osprey_Jr>twb: It's not related at all to a gui.
11:06<Osprey_Jr>Just the users log in via gui.
11:07<Osprey_Jr>So .bashrc is not called.
11:07<twb>Osprey_Jr: then surely it launches via systemd's system target and never cares about X, wayland, or your user?
11:08<Osprey_Jr>twb: that should be possible. If it launches when a user logs in again after standby.
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11:08<twb>Osprey_Jr: that would be a system resume target
11:09<twb>man bootup
11:09<Osprey_Jr>twb: Yes.
11:09<Osprey_Jr>twb: Nice, thank you!
11:10<twb>I am surprised it does not ship with appropriate files already
11:10<Osprey_Jr>twb: Lenovo laptop display flicker problems. Seems to be a nice problem.
11:10<Osprey_Jr>niche
11:11<twb>FWIW I cannot reproduce that on T490s
11:11<lordvalor>i'm still using xorg yet
11:11<twb>(Although I am running Debian 11 there)
11:11<Osprey_Jr>twb: T520 with high res display. Same problem exists in Windows 7. ;-)
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11:12<lordvalor>i have a thinkpad x250 with i3wm-xorg
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12:43<emily>where are the settings for gnome-terminal stored? I'm using Tails and want to get the necessary file(s) on persistent storage so I don't have to change the color scheme of the terminal every time
12:43<twb>emily: dconf
12:44<twb>emily: you want "dconf dump /" (CLI) or "dconf-editor" (GUI)
12:44<grawity>by default a binary database in ~/.config/dconf/ (try `dconf dump /org/gnome/terminal/`)
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12:45<twb>emily: you could also do it by having an on-login script that changes the relevant seting
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12:48<stefanct>i ran into a problem related to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=915566 libusb-1.0 depends on libudev for some time and became unusable for static linking because of that
12:48<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/915566 in libsystemd-dev (closed): «libsystemd-dev: static library not provided»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2018-12-04; last modified: 2020-08-18.
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12:48<stefanct>is that a valid reason to file a bug (against libusb i guess)?
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12:49<somiaj>stefanct: what version of debian are you running?
12:49<emily>thank you twb and grawity
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13:00<stefanct>somiaj: stable, mostly ;)
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13:03<somiaj>stefanct: mostly? anyways, it seems debian doesn't necesrally provide static libs, but it might be something that you could file as a wish list bug. Note due to the release happeneing soon, it won't get into bullseye if the matainer decides to, and according to the bug report there just isn't the demand to have static linked systemd libs.
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13:03<somiaj>So a bug report is reasonable at even a wishlist stage to let your usecase be known, but due to timing it would be at least bookworm wich would get the any changes (if the matainers decide to provide static linked libs)
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14:24<jhutchins>somiaj: Isn't that an already filed bug that could be up-voted?
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14:34<petrj>hey guys, does anyone know when memory in cgroup is assigned/mapped to kubernetes environment (i.e. instead of `memory:/` you have something like `memory:/kub../../...`) and you find like 500x more memory leaks in your simple application compared to when running on baremetal, vm or even a docker container.. what does that signifies?
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14:34<petrj>some assumption took in the application which expects memory to be `memory:/` (root) and go bonkers when it is mapped like `memory:/blah/foo/bar...`.
14:35<sarnold>petrj: that reminds me very much of a bug I saw yesterday, but it was on ubuntu and used snap .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-kubernetes-master/+bug/1928806
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15:03<twb>petrj: surely it signifies that the application is crap?
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15:17<Saturn>anyone know how to use tmux?
15:18<ratrace>many people.
15:18<cmm11>https://tmuxcheatsheet.com/
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15:20<somiaj>jhutchins: I'm unsure on this case, maybe it could be, though I don't know weither all of systemd needs to have static libs for just that users usecase needed it for only libudev.
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15:20<somiaj>Saturn: it is always best to just ask your question vs take a poll, as polls don't often help.
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15:43<omegatron>quite silent here .. is it always like this or just now? =)
15:43<sney>it varies
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15:43<sney>#debian is primarily a support channel, so there's only activity when someone needs help, pretty much.
15:44<omegatron>does it include the topic on reproducible builds?
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15:46<sney>sure, though there is also a dedicated #debian-reproducible channel.
15:46<sney>see https://wiki.debian.org/IRC#Debian_IRC_channels for the full list
15:46<omegatron>ah, great
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16:59<Hardy>anyone has an idea where to get debian for powerpc. I want to try to install it on an old PowerMac G5
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16:59<Hardy>Or are there any other linux distros that run on ppc?
16:59<Hardy>Anyone an idea?
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17:00<BalooRJ>https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/
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17:03<Hardy>Thanks, but I was on this site before. There doesn't seem to be any downloads. Didn't find any
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17:04<sney>Hardy: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/10.0/powerpc/
17:04<sney>the installer won't be able to find a network mirror, but with some tinkering it's possible to make it work.
17:04<Hardy>ok, is it only the basic system?
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17:04<Hardy>so no other packages are included?
17:05<sney>yes, the netinst will install a base system with apt/dpkg and networking tools, and you can configure it from there
17:05<Hardy>ok. I see... just opened it in my browser...
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17:06<alex_>Hola
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17:06<sney>powerpc isn't an official architecture anymore, but support was quite good back in the day so the fundamentals are still there
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17:07<Hardy>but debian 10 is the latest release. And there is a ppc image available. So it seems to be up to date. Somehow... ;-)
17:07<sney>!ports
17:07<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, ports is http://www.debian.org/ports/ or http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/port-numbers or the FreeBSD ports system etc etc
17:08<Hardy>just want to play a little bit with it on my powermac g5
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17:08<sney>er, the debian ports project maintains some support on unofficial architectures. it just doesn't have as full support as amd64, etc which have much more hardware available for testing and development.
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17:09<sney>also that iso is labeled as 10 but iirc it installs jessie, and then you have to set up sources.list for unstable
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17:10<Hardy>ok... I understand
17:10<Guest4168>Does anyone know how I could boot via xhci (usb3) external expresscard without download it's proprietary firmware (upd720202)?
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18:35<kingsley>Do you happen to know why the desktop environment named "xfce" would be able restart terminal sessions, but not gnumeric sessions, after logging out, rebooting and logging in? It fails for me. I read in Freenode's #xfce it works with arch.
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19:53<the4oo4>I am looking to cross compile things for alpine, am I able to install musl alongside glibc without breaking anything? I really only intend to use musl for building stuff for alpine but leave everything else in place
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19:53<ratrace>the4oo4: why not alpine container then.
19:54<the4oo4>I use alpine containers, but I usually build everything on the host
19:54<the4oo4>I was considering that too but was curious
19:55<ratrace>it's literally why containers exist: to isolate dependencies :)
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19:55<the4oo4>ratrate: lol so I take it that it's a bad idea to mix musl/glibc then
19:55<ratrace>I think you can't run musl libc without toying wiht sonames and whatnots, with glibc already there
19:55<the4oo4>thought so
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19:55<the4oo4>there is musl-gcc as a wrapper to handle that I think
19:55<ratrace>but even if you could .. why risk breaking the system.
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19:56<the4oo4>yup, I thought it felt crazy
19:56<sarnold>the4oo4: I've only ever used musl in the context of compiling rust programs, but it worked fine to install the musl tools on the system without displacing glibc in any way
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20:49<sappheiros>would you recommend `xrandr` to change monitor refresh rate? do you suppose i may be getting a headache because mine's currently set to 60?
20:49<sappheiros>i don't see a way to change refresh rate with a GUI like 'Display'
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20:51<sappheiros>hrm, setting it to 1024x768 for 75.03 rate made me feel even worse. maybe i just have a migraine and should get off the PC
20:52<ddsys>maybe brightness is to high
20:53<somiaj>xrandr settings can be put into xorg.conf, so if you find something you like there you can just configure your xserver to use that vs run a script to manually chagne it each time.
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21:07<sappheiros>somiaj, so then xrandr -r 75 gave me a 'that mode isn't available' only because it searched for a mode matching both that rate and my current resolution? i.e. I can manually configure that anyway? (i'm guessing the answer is yes, since i've heard in linux you can do whatever, even if it breaks your system)
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21:15<somiaj>sappheiros: use xrandr -q to see what resolutions/modes are available for your gpu/monintor combo.
21:16<somiaj>If you need a mode that isn't there, you can create custom modelines, but have to be careful here to ensure you get one both supported by your gpu and your monintor.
21:16<somiaj>the modes listed in xrandr -q are from the edid of y our monintor stating what it can support
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21:16<sappheiros>i'm surprised monitors are so limited
21:17<sappheiros>thanks
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21:19<somiaj>I think it is more it is easier for qualty control to restrict to very common modelines and only test the monintors for those. Some monintors will just outrigth refuse modelines they don't offically support.
21:19<somiaj>Others can be tweaked a bit more, but here again, it is getting less common
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21:33<ryouma>sappheiros: i hope i didn't miss something in the bacscroll but you can create new modes for your monitor. there are at least 2 tools to supply the correct settings, cvt and gtf.
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21:34<somiaj>And if the monintor allows those modelines is of course up to the monintor. I haven't really had to deal with this, so unsure how nice modern mointors are at allowing other modelines
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21:35<ryouma>i have done it and am using a custom modeline now
21:36<somiaj>yea, i'm unsure how much variance monitors allow, my only experience is if I use the wrong modeline my moinitor just tells me not supported.
21:36<somiaj>but this maybe more a resolution vs refresh issue
21:36<ryouma>sappheiros: the health question is much bigger. everybody is different and surprising (to some) things can cause major health issues, but on an lcd/led monitor, refresh rate is imo HIGHLY unlikely to be the problem. is yours a different tech? if it is lcd or led then refresh rate only updates a pixel. it is probably pwm, but
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21:39<ryouma>it might be other stuff. pwm is a property of the backlight and you can't do much about it. there are other issues like spectra. whatever your problem is it is real and you will get idiots telling you it is not so try to find out what works for you.
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21:41<ryouma>unlike on technologies like crt, refresh rate on lcd is merely changing a static thing to another static thing. so it is unlikely to be a problem.
21:41<ryouma>if it is NOT lcd, there are other issues also that i am less familiar with. also resolution, font dithering, colors, etc. are generic things to check out.
21:45<ryouma>brightness is another very good guess. monitors are extremely bright.
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21:46<m>greeting. i use debian as my only os, but i am not specialist. there's any way to create more than one network (normal one for browser + vpn one for another browser). what i try do is bth network run in same time on same machine
21:46<ryouma>(especially in combination with pwm or spectra or at night)
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21:47<somiaj>so you want routing to happen per application m? I think I've heard this is possible but know nothing about it.
21:47<somiaj>m: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/234583/routing-on-per-application-basis -- seems the answer is namespaces if you want something to research.
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21:48<m>somiaj i belive that what i need many thanks for you
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21:54<ryouma>sappheiros: if it is a gaming monitor then try turning off the gaming features.
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21:56<sappheiros>ryouma, should i try switching the GPU from GAMING to COMPUTE?
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21:58<ryouma> idk. i think it is monitor settings that are likely to be the problem, if such things are a problem, but i am not sure.
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22:00<ryouma> do you notice anything funny about the image on the screen?
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22:02<ryouma> yeah it seems like compute is possibly for using the gpu for computing so unrelated
22:02<ryouma> in any case you can try the monitor menu
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22:06<ryouma> somiaj yeah monitors do balk ime
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22:08<ryouma> sappheiros if you react to other stuff then maybe it is generic brightness etc. ddccontrol and redshift are options.
22:09<sappheiros>thanks
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22:22<petrj>hi, is there a way to capture pid in bash with a single statement? (pipe or subshell)
22:22<petrj>`eval "ls --version >/dev/null 2>&1 &" | xargs printf "PID was: %s\n"`
22:22<petrj>that didn't work, also tried
22:22<petrj>`echo $(ls --version >/dev/null >&1 &)`
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22:27<somiaj>Why do you need to do this in a single statement?
22:27<ryouma>you want pid of the ls you just spawned?
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22:28<petrj>yup, in particular i need to trace calls of a "short-lived process" so didn't wanted to break it into multistatements
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22:28<somiaj>https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21063765/why-is-returning-the-same-id-as-the-parent-process -- seems bash has $BASHPID as the id of the child
22:30<ryouma>job control will print it for you so maybe it is possible but sounds kludgey as in general all that pid stuff in the manual is for shell instances and similar
22:31<petrj>yeah, another approach is to push it on fd3 then pipe read, leme try it
22:32<ryouma>there might be tools like ltrace or something to trace calls to programs but idk. bash has a tracer built in with bash -x.
22:32<petrj>https://stackoverflow.com/a/3786955
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