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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-05-20

---Logopened Thu May 20 00:00:52 2021
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00:32<peace3>Are udf file systems on DVD+RW possible, modifiable, reliable and practical?
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00:43<jm_>peace3: a long time ago I used that a few times, worked OK for my simple cases
00:43<ryouma>does purging browser-plugin-vlc stop any videos from working in firefox? or does it only remove vlc functionality from firefox?
00:44<ryouma>aptitude says obsolete
00:45<jm_>ryouma: it's only in jessie, and likely old style plugin which modern firefox no longer supports
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00:46<ryouma>thanks
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00:46<jm_>you can check if firefox shows it in about:plugins assuming it's installed
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00:48<ryouma>i seem to have fwlogwatch installed. is this something i need if i don't know if i need it? there seems to be no daemon running.
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02:26<keycollector>Is mysql server on debian repo?
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02:28<keycollector>ahh, it starts with "default".. found it.. nvm
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02:35<somiaj>keycollector: debian as switched to mariadb
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03:25<hacker>?
03:25<hacker>????????????
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03:25<Guest4224>hello
03:25<Guest4224>debian10.10
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03:26<Guest4224>?
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04:43<jelly>peace3, DVD+RW have been horribly unreliable for me on Linux, even if in theory it was possible to have multiple sessions without rewriting the whole thing
04:43<jelly>make that "all RW optical media, CD, DVD, +RW, -RW"
04:43<jelly>switched to usb sticks real soon
04:44<petn-randall>It kind of worked fine for me. I must still have some backups on DVD-RW lying somewhere.
04:47<TheBigK>i threw most of my optical self burned stuff out... it just takes too much space
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04:49<petn-randall>I still have half a spindel of 50 DVD-R somewhere, too.
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04:52<jm_>heck I have almost 400, wonder if they still work (I copied all of it to disks later exactly because it takes too much space)
04:53<mrwick>funny story, I have an old PowerBook G4 with burned out USB because I plugged in a bus powered drive once, can only install debian via optical media.
04:54<TheBigK>:D
04:54<petn-randall>mrwick: So you're stuck with whatever's installed on it? :-S
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04:55<mrwick>petn-randall: yea, and I re-installed macos but have no recent debian disks so I am stuck in osx tiger or something :D
04:55*mrwick should order a debian dvd from somewhere
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08:45<zapotah>hi, looks like testing and bullseye are not in sync in the repos
08:45<zapotah>the libc6 packages have mismatched versions
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08:46<zapotah>i thought those should be the same right? (even with the freeze)
08:48<jm_>!info libc6 testing
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08:57<jm_>asked judd via /msg and libc6 is the same, but in any case, ask about it in #debian-next
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09:01<Delta-One>libc migrated today from unstable to testing. Maybe you were just unlucky with the timing and the sync wasn't completed.
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09:16<zapotah>Delta-One: could be
09:16<zapotah>ill check later today or tomorrow to see if its just that
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09:44<devicenull>on centos I use the `grubby` tool to manage what the active kernel is - does debian have something similar? my goal is to be able to get puppet to pick what kernel will be used on reboot - I don't currently see a great way of doing that
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09:48<somiaj>Debian stable sticks with a LTS kernel, and the packages will automatically make the newer kernel when isntalled the one that is booted.
09:48<somiaj>So not sure what you would gain out of managing what the active kernel is, as older kernels will have secuirty issues.
09:48<devicenull>we generate our own kernel packages with a couple patches
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09:49<somiaj>Just use the package version system to make your kernel a higher version with something like +custom1, +custom2, etc?
09:50<somiaj>though no, I do not know of any tool like grubby in debian
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09:51<devicenull>yea, we currently use a higher version number, which usually works. it would be nice to be able to actually assert that though - so I can have puppet update it if the config gets missed somehow
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09:53<somiaj>I'm unsure of any such tools
09:56<kritzefitz>devicenull, you can set the default entry in /etc/default/grub as `GRUB_DEFAULT="<entry name here>"`. You “just” need to know the name of the entry. Though I'm not sure, how easy that name is to predict.
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09:57<devicenull>huh, I didnt realize that accepted a name - it looks like it defaults to `0`
09:57<blast007>if you don't have the meta package installed (for example, linux-image-amd64), it won't track new kernels, so you shouldn't suddenly have a new kernel installed
09:58<kritzefitz>There is also `grub-set-default` which seems to set the default from the command line, but it also seems to do some other stuff, so you should probably check grub-set-default(8).
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10:00<devicenull>I think GRUB_DEFAULT='title' is probably what I want
10:00<devicenull>thanks
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10:02<devicenull>it's pretty easy to predict the title if you GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU="y"
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10:57<satta>Any idea if this Debian keychain is still available and, if so, where? https://www.kernel-error.de/images/stories/blog/keychain/Keychain-Debian.JPG
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10:59<petn-randall>satta: Probably a good chance to get one on the next debconf, even last year attendants got a good bag sent to them.
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11:01<ydbi>is in-person debconf going to ever be a thing again?
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11:09<petn-randall>ydbi: I guess you'd have to ask the manager of corona virus.
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11:10<omegatron>who would that be?
11:10<H4ndy>The flying spaghetti monster probably
11:11<somiaj>Maybe we'll all start wearing space suits
11:11<ydbi>do we even want in-person meetings anyway?
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11:11<ydbi>I've grown quite fond of not being around people who don't know about the exitsence of deodorants
11:12<omegatron>depends on the distance I would have to travel ..
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11:16<Redentor>How can i add the debian-reference guide to my domain with apache ?
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11:22<sappheiros>Preferred Applications GUI doesn't have a PDF option. :( is this feedback i should leave formally? i'm trying to set PDF to open with Document viewer instead of GIMP
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11:28<somiaj>Redentor: it looks like all the docs are in /usr/share/debian-reference/?
11:28<somiaj>Redentor: you could just add that as an alias or some sort, or even link it to your DocumentRoot with a symbolic link
11:29<Redentor>@somiaj, ok thanks.
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12:08<r4fkramer>Hi all. Please is there any application available in debian repositgory that is designed for trading and financial analysis?
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12:09<somiaj>Unsure exactly what features you are using, there are of course spreadsheets you can use
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12:09<somiaj>,i gnucash
12:09<judd>Package gnucash (gnome, optional) in buster/amd64: personal and small-business financial-accounting software. Version: 1:3.4-1+b10; Size: 4341.6k; Installed: 22199k; Homepage: http://www.gnucash.org/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/gnucash; RFH: #910059
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12:14<r4fkramer>somiaj, thanks for answering. I'm basically looking for a Debian application that can be used for analyzing financial assets and trading on the stock market.
12:14<r4fkramer>This application that You suggested will be installed and I will make the most of its features. I just have to thank you for your usual attention :)
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12:43<Gintru>. o O SaluT / IN
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12:47<omegatron>o/
12:48<Gintru>does anybody could help me ? During resume, when my VGA card is reset ?
12:48<Gintru>omegatron: hello
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12:49<Gintru>omegatron: what are you looking for ?
12:49<Gintru>debhelper: /me looking for /help
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12:50<Gintru>zem: what are you doing ?
12:50<Gintru>zigo: who you work for ?
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12:50<Gintru>zleap: a new zip format ?
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12:51<Gintru>Haudegen: allo
12:51<somiaj>Gintru: please don't go and ping everyone with nonsense questions.
12:51<somiaj>Just wait paitently and see if someone can actually answer your question.
12:51<Gintru>somiaj: thank you, so happy to
12:52<Gintru>somiaj: ok, i wait patiently
12:52*Gintru okay ? don't ping yourself
12:52<somiaj>Also maybe add some details, I don't quite understand what your issue is. You are resuming from suspend (or hibernate) and what is happening?
12:53<Gintru>somiaj: what happend ? something great, everything work nicely :)
12:53<Gintru>somiaj: I mean, it is me who screw my card :)
12:54<somiaj>So you don't have an actual issue/question?
12:54<Gintru>somiaj: in order to make it work okay again, I have to suspend
12:54<Gintru>somiaj: no issue, I use Debian since 2.2 potatoo
12:54<Gintru>somiaj: Debian is the best distro ever,
12:54<Gintru>somiaj: and you are a hero
12:55<Gintru>somiaj: I am looking for how to send this reset command, and after searching, felt in front of a systemd message "Restarting tasks ... " and that's all
12:55<Gintru>somiaj: I don't know a lot IRC,
12:56<Gintru>I am looking for a chan
12:56<somiaj>I don't really understand what your issue is, maybe a language barrier. Would you like me to direct you to a channel in your native language?
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12:57<Gintru>somiaj: I am looking for a channel related to "systemd resume"
12:58<zleap>hi
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12:58<Gintru>somiaj: do you know "ugrep -Q -C100" ?
12:58<Gintru>zleap: hello
12:58<zleap>how can we help
12:58<Gintru>zleap: too nice from you, I am looking for a way to reset my graphic board, by hand
12:59<Gintru>zleap: for that, I am looking how systemd is doing PM resume
12:59<alex11>how do i check what firmware is missing?
12:59<zleap>hmm
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12:59<zleap>lspci shoudl tell you what is installed
12:59<zleap>lshw
12:59<Gintru>alex11: firmware for which device ?
12:59<Gintru>alex11: tell more
12:59<alex11>just my desktop
12:59<somiaj>alex11: debian doesn't include a firewall by default, did you install one?
13:00<alex11>firmware, not firewall
13:00<Gintru>alex11: ... a firmware for a desktop ?
13:00<somiaj>arg grr
13:00<zleap>firmware for a graphics card i guess
13:00<somiaj>alex11: thanks I can't read, 'dmesg | grep -i firmware'
13:00<Gintru>guessing is not sufficient
13:00<alex11>ah ok
13:00<alex11>i'd forgotten the command
13:00<Gintru>o somebody,
13:00*Gintru Be Right Back
13:02*Gintru back
13:02<Gintru>alex11: solved ?... okay
13:03<Gintru>lshw ! I even didn't know about !!
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13:05<Gintru>alex11: may I ask how do you use your lshw command ?
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13:06<alex11>...
13:06<alex11>i mean first of all i didn't even mention lshw
13:06<alex11>second, you're very insistent
13:06<Gintru>MUST, SHALL, MAY, sorry but I am not insistent
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13:10<Gintru>FOUND !
13:10<Gintru>#systemd on irc.freenode.org
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13:10<jhutchins>!fr
13:10<dpkg>Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr or #debian-quebec. - debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
13:10<Gintru>Fanku all, I say bye
13:10<Gintru>SaluT / OuT O o .
13:10<Gintru>dpkg: c'est pas de l'aide en français que je cherche, c'est de l'aide avec un cerveau
13:10<dpkg>You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, Gintru
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13:27<redbrass>Is there any way in Bash to tell what the "main" network interface is? If I do "ip addr" I see all my interfaces. I need a script to get my local IP address that I can use in a browser - i.e. http://my.ip.address.
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13:27<redbrass>(I'm setting up Nginx via Podman, to be accessed from another podman container...)
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13:28<sney>you can compare the output of ip address and ip route, but if you're hosting web services on a system with multiple interfaces, it's better to explicitly configure nginx to use the address you want it to
13:28<redbrass>For me, I can't rely on "wlan0" always being the name, or "eth0". My app will run on different workstations.
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13:30<redbrass>sney: that is what I'm trying to do. My nginx container exposes port 50001. I can access it via "http://localhost:50001" on my local box. But when I use that same path inside another container then "localhost" does not point to the right location.
13:30<redbrass>So I want the IP address... but I have many interfaces that have IP addresses... how to choose the right one is my problem.
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13:31<redbrass>(within a bash script that is...)
13:31<ben>do you need wan or lan
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13:33<redbrass>Not in this case - we set up a temporary debian repo, compile our driver to a deb package and add to that repo. Then a later step calls that repo to install the driver in our generated image. (which we then dump to a USB image for installation). So this repo is local only.
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13:34<redbrass>ben: we just a need a reference to the IP that is hosting the web service, which is all local to the workstation.
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13:34<jhutchins>redbrass: localhost is always the machine that you are on.
13:35<redbrass>jhutchins: yes. Until you run a container. Then localhost is THAT machine - when code is running inside that container.
13:35<jhutchins>redbrass: If you have a lot of machines, you'll probably want to set up a DNS server. If it's just a few, you can put them in /etc/hosts
13:35<sney>in the short term, [11:28:33] <sney> you can compare the output of ip address and ip route
13:36<blast007>I'm sure docker has a way to make docker containers able to talk between each other
13:36<sney>match the interface mentioned as 'default via' in ip route, with an address in 'ip address', boom, that's your answer
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13:37<redbrass>sney: I tried $(ip route | akw '/default/ { print $3 }') - that got me my default gateway though...
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13:38<ben>then you need to match that to ip addr
13:38<sney>redbrass: that's because you need to do both parts, not just the first one
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13:39<redbrass>hmm.. I see that the default via line includes the device... so you are saying use the ip route to determine the device, then ip addr for that device.. yes?
13:40<sney>yes.
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13:41<redbrass>thanks. That makes things a little easier.
13:41<redbrass>took me a few to get through to your meaning.. :)
13:42<ben>ip -br addr show dev $(ip r | grep 'default via' | cut -d ' ' -f 5)
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13:42<colo>I would rather use `ip route get <relevant-ip-address>` (must be a numeric address, not a hostname), and parse that
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13:43<ben>i think the ip address is not known
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13:48<redbrass>got it. Similar to what ben posted: ip addr show $(ip route | awk '/default/ {print $5}') | grep "inet" | head -n 1 | awk '/inet/ { print $2 }' | cut -d'/' -f1
13:48<ben>sure
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13:52<colo>maybe you like this better: ip -4 addr show | awk '/^\s+inet/ && !/127.0.0.[0-9]/{split($2,o,"/"); print o[1]}'
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13:56<colo>hm, needs this in absence of gawk: ip -4 addr show | awk '/^[\t ]*inet/ && !/127.0.0.[0-9]/{split($2,o,"/"); print o[1]}'
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14:01<sn0wm3>Has anyone tried to get multiseat working on buster or bullseye? I've used logind to create a second seat, and loginctl recognizes my gpu as a master device, but refuses to create a login shell / session for it, even on reboot
14:02<redbrass>colo: thanks. Those commands give me a list of 3 (or more) addresses. With Podman containers running I have multiple interfaces with IPs. The trick is I need the "right" IP.
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14:02<redbrass>My solution is verbose but gives the right IP.
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14:13<burrows>git doesn't work unless I downgrade libcurl3-gnutls to 7.64.0-4+deb10u2. it works in bullseye without downgrading.
14:15<jmcnaught>burrows: are you using git from buster-backports?
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14:15<burrows>yes
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14:15<jmcnaught>Maybe you need libcurl3-gnutls from buster-backports too then
14:16<burrows>i'll try it in a container
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14:19<burrows>same error with gnutls 7.74.0-1.2~bpo10+1
14:19<burrows>i assume the "bp" means backport
14:19<ben>yeah bpo is backports
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14:39<grawity>redbrass: ip -j route get 8.8.8.8 | jq -r '.[].dev'
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14:44<Xe>grawity: ip -j is a really cool trick, thanks!
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15:07<judd>Package: libcurl3-gnutls on amd64 -- jessie: 7.38.0-4+deb8u11; jessie-security: 7.38.0-4+deb8u16; stretch: 7.52.1-5+deb9u10; stretch-proposed-updates: 7.52.1-5+deb9u10; stretch-security: 7.52.1-5+deb9u10; buster: 7.64.0-4+deb10u1; buster-proposed-updates: 7.64.0-4+deb10u2; buster-security: 7.64.0-4+deb10u2; buster-backports: 7.74.0-1.2~bpo10+1; bullseye: 7.74.0-1.2; sid: 7.74.0-1.2
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15:08<somiaj>burrows: I don't quite follow, so the git from backports works with deb10u2 (I don't see how this is a downgrade, unless you are downgrading from backports)?
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15:19<burrows>somiaj: the git from bullseye works, but not backports.
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15:21<somiaj>burrows: you say unless you downgrade to the current version of a libcurl3-gnutls, this is where I'm confused.
15:21<somiaj>burrows: so git works fine with the libaries from buster, what are you downgrading from? And is this on a pure buster+backports machine (or is there some mixing going on)?
15:21<jello>hello, i'm trying to run bind/named in a chroot under /srv/dns. However, even after running `aa-complain /usr/sbin/named`, I still get apparmor="DENIED" in syslog. What am I doing wrong?
15:22<burrows>oh, right. yes, I mean downgrading from backport
15:22<somiaj>Anyways, just trying to narrow down the issue so you can file a bug report, note that buster-backports are probably compiled against buster libs, and may not be well tested against the buster-backports libs.
15:23<sarnold>jello: do the denied pathnames start with a / or not?
15:23<burrows>it was originally a pure buster install then I added backport repos as time went on
15:23<somiaj>so it could be that this is just an artifiact that git was automatically compiled against buster libs (not buster-backports libs) and a change in the lib made the a newer version not backwards compadable. You can file a bug report about this, but unsure if it will be possible to make the backports version work both the backport lib and the buster lib (could be some change not making this work)
15:24<jello>sarnold: yes. full line is:
15:24<jello>audit: type=1400 audit(1621538381.055:57): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/named" name="/srv/dns/etc/bind/named.conf" pid=7422 comm="named" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=103 ouid=0
15:24<somiaj>I think if it comes down to it, the matainer would rather make sure backports work with buster (instead of buster-backports libs), and this is just one of the side effects of backports
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15:24<jello>FWIW, i added "/srv/dns/** r," to /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.sbin.named
15:24<jello>but that didn't seem to help either
15:25<somiaj>burrows: the fact that the package works just fine with the buster libs makes me think it is working as designed/tested, I don't know the issue, it could be that it is not possible to make it work with both the buster lib and the buster-backports lib.
15:25<burrows>so it's a bug not worth filing and I might as well wait uptil bullseye is offically released and upgrade to that
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15:25<sarnold>jello: hmm, so my first guess may not have been useful... were there errors reported when reloading the bind profile?
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15:25<jello>sarnold: i got:
15:25<jello>Setting /usr/sbin/named to complain mode.
15:25<jello>Warning: profile named represents multiple programs
15:26<sarnold>jello: oh that's an interesting warning. I can't recall ever seeing that one before..
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15:26<jello>running buster+backports, if that's relevant
15:26<sarnold>jello: how many files are matched with something like grep -r /usr/sbin/named /etc/apparmor.d ?
15:27<somiaj>burrows: Here i'm unsure, I don't know if it can be possible to make git work with both libs or not. To me it sounds like there is some non-backwards compadable change in the lib or the api of the lib.
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15:27<jello>sarnold: just /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.named
15:28<somiaj>burrows: You can still file a bug report, it could be there are ways to make it work better, I'm just staing my observation is all, fwiw
15:28<jello>using grep -rl /usr/sbin/named /etc/apparmor.d
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15:29<jello>i feel like i'm missing something fundamental and somehow AA is not seeing the changes I'm making...
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15:30<jello>though, running aa-status does show named profile in complain mode
15:30<jello>actually, that's weird
15:31<somiaj>you don't have multiple named binaries on your machine (hence the multiple programs warning)?
15:31<jello>sarnold: see https://paste.debian.net/1198273/
15:31<jello>it says /usr/sbin/named is in enforce, but named is in complain
15:31<jello>wtf
15:32<somiaj>do you have '/usr/sbin/named' and 'named' as two seperate rules, what does the default app armor profile that comes with the debian package call the binary?
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15:33<jello>somiaj: nope. running find / -name named -type f; returns /usr/sbin/named, and the stuff in /etc
15:33<jello>somiaj: it has "profile named /usr/sbin/named"
15:33<somiaj>jello: I would jsut grep for 'named' not '/usr/sbin/named' in apparmors configuration directories, is /etc the only place, or do debian packages put things in /lib
15:34<sarnold>jello: aha, this looks promising
15:34<somiaj>it just looks liek it is seeing named and /usr/bin/named as two different things for some reason.
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15:35<jello>so, change "profile named /usr/sbin/named" to "profile /usr/sbin/named" ?
15:36<jello>and then restart apparmor?
15:36<somiaj>ahh that might be it, yea try that
15:37<jello>that made a difference. bombed somewhere else now :)
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15:38<sarnold>hah, that won't unload the "profile named" profile
15:39<sarnold>we've been trying to move everyone to using the 'profile named /usr/sbin/named" style of profile names, because the mess of symlinks is making it hard to know where executables will live these days, and profile names that include the globbing characters are very nearly unreadable
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15:44<jello>sarnold: so, what should I be doing instead?
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15:46<sarnold>jello: there's an aa-remove-unknown tool that will unload profiles that no longer exist in your /etc/apparmor.d directory. try it with -n first, because it'll try to unload snap profiles, lxd profiles, maybe libvirt profiles, etc, that aren't managed in /etc/apparmor.d -- and if the results look fine, you can execute aa-remove-unknown again without -n ..
15:46<sarnold>jello: I'd recommend putting the profile back to "profile named /usr/sbin/named" first, though, I think that'll give cleaner results in the long run
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15:47<jello>sarnold: running aa-remove-unknown -n gives: Would remove '/usr/sbin/named'
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15:48<jello>after changing the profile name to named /usr/sbin/named
15:49<sarnold>jello: okay, cool, just one is great ;)
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15:51<jello>ok, so now i'm all set, i think
15:52<sarnold>jello: all sorted?
15:52<jello>bind is running in the chroot and AA is enforcing
15:52*jello hopes this survives a reboot
15:52<jello>probably worth doing one now just to check
15:53<sarnold>excellent idea :D
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16:00<jello>hurray! survived the reboot
16:00<jello>now to figure out why it's not giving the ad DNSSEC flag for my domain...
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16:15<jello>TIL - secondary nameservers also return the aa flag (not ad)
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17:19<sappheiros>debian's python installation is in /bin not /usr/bin, right?
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17:19<sappheiros>(so when working with vscode i want to only modify the /usr/bin environment, right?)
17:19<somiaj>sappheiros: /usr/bin/python3, though just install usrmerge and don't worry about it
17:20<somiaj>note usrmerge will be mandatory come bookworm, so just install it early, get use to it, and stop carying if your binary is in /bin or /usr/bin
17:20<sappheiros>i thought we wanted to keep environments separate so i wouldn't break any python stuff debian relies on
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17:22<somiaj>So this is an XY problem? You want to know where to install y our custom python version? Well do not put it anywhere in $PATH
17:22<somiaj>though setting up a python virtual enviorment is the prefered method to go about that
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17:22<sappheiros>i thought vscode's "virtual environment" was using python3.7 from /usr/bin, when selecting a python interpreter in vscode
17:22<somiaj>But the question you asked did not relate to any of that, you asked where does debian put its python binary, and like most things, /usr/bin is where they go.
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17:23<sappheiros>vscode lists both /bin and /usr/bin as environment choices for coding
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17:23<somiaj>yes, by default the virtual enviorment will use the system version of python. You'll have to compile your own version of python to get a different binary.
17:23<sappheiros>so i thought /bin was debian's and /usr/bin was vscode's
17:23<sappheiros>do you mean BOTH belong to debian?
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17:23<Linux-Fan>sappheiros: Yes, with the usr merge its even the same file :)
17:23<sappheiros>x_x
17:23<sappheiros>glad i asked
17:23<somiaj>nope, not at all. /bin and /usr/bin is due to the fact that floppy disks were small back in the 70s-80s, and we are still stuck with that today
17:24<somiaj>in theory /bin was for stuff that needed to be aviable before mounting other file systems, but again back in the day this matter, this really hasn't mattered since the 90s
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17:26<somiaj>the fact that usrmerge yet just goes to show how hard it is for humans to change.
17:26<somiaj>*the fact that usermerge is not default yet
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17:27<jmcnaught>usrmerge is default for buster installs
17:27<sappheiros>it appears then that I should continue working through https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/python/python-tutorial#_prerequisites to install a virtual environment (a separate python installation)
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17:27<somiaj>jmcnaught: ahh guess I missed that, I saw it was default in bullseye, but my installs are mostly upgrades.
17:28<somiaj>sappheiros: a virtualenviorment need not use a seperate python installation (often times it doesn't), but it will have its own python packages.
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17:29<sappheiros>(sighhh) there is so much to learn to work with computerls
17:29<sappheiros>https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/installing/#installing-with-get-pip-py warns I might leave my system "in an inconsistent state" if I don't use a separate installation, so i don't know what to do :/
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17:31<somiaj>I think you might be confusing what a speparate instalation is, in a python virutal enviorment, there is the python intupriter, and then all the python libaries.
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17:31<somiaj>a virtual enviorment will often use the system's inturpuiter, but have an isolated container to install the libaries you need for a particular project.
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17:32<somiaj>though you can compile other versions of python and have enviorments use that one instead of the system one.
17:32<somiaj>though I'm sure a python channel could help you with more details on this if needed
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17:44<craigevil>https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/python/python-tutorial
17:44<craigevil>python3 -m venv .venv
17:44<craigevil>source .venv/bin/activate
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17:45<craigevil>but first you need to create a directory, then open a terminal in that dir and run those commands
17:45<craigevil>then from the terminal in that dir start vscode by doing code .
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17:49<craigevil>you can get mor help in #debian-python
17:49<craigevil>or in #python on libera
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19:00<iousdhfuio>hi im using xubuntu a debian derivative, but i have an issue that will other distros run deb files or binaries
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19:01<hwpplayer1>iousdhfuio: ? an issue that effects debian ?
19:01<petn-randall>iousdhfuio: Unless you can reproduce the issue on a pure Debian, it's better you ask your question in #ubuntu.
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19:01<hwpplayer1>petn-randall: Maybe it is a bug related with apt and deb ?
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19:02<petn-randall>hwpplayer1: Well, is it reproducible in Debian?
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19:02<hwpplayer1>petn-randall: I am not sure I just express my thoughts to understand what is going on better
19:04<somiaj>you could use debootstrap and create a debian chroot to test if the issue is there
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21:05<themill>dpkg: wb
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