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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-05-28

---Logopened Fri May 28 00:00:04 2021
00:00-!-RedSoxFan07 [~Thunderbi@d-159-250-218-50.ct.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has joined #debian
00:00-!-RedSoxFan07 is "RedSoxFan07" on #debian-next #debian
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00:01-!-jm_ is "." on #debian
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00:02-!-uos_eric2023 is "Quassel IRC 用户" on #debian
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00:31-!-diogenes_oftc is "Nicolas" on #debian
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00:31-!-blue__penquin is "blue_penquin" on #debian-fediverse #debian-dpkg #debian-social #wayland #freedesktop #debian-xfce #linux #tor-dev #dri-devel #tor-project #debian-next #debian
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00:33-!-marathon is "S t e v e " on #debian
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00:39-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debian #packaging #debian-ai #debian-next #debian-meeting
00:40<rakor>How does this bot work?
00:40-!-marathon [~s@2.57.169.56] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
00:41<jm_>which bot?
00:41-!-Ericounet [~Eric@2a01:e0a:d0:3c20:c25a:6a25:183c:f2db] has joined #debian
00:41-!-Ericounet is "realname" on #play.it #freedombox #debian
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00:57-!-ornxka is "ornxka" on #debian #debian-next
00:57<ornxka>https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/docker why
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01:20-!-hybridwipe is "realname" on #debian #debian-next #msys2 #msys2-ci #qemu #llvm #llvmlinux
01:20<rakor>This dpkg bit
01:20<rakor>Bot
01:26-!-rs2009723824855214 [~rs2009@171.61.121.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
01:26<jm_>you ask it for factoid and it replies, if it knows it
01:26<jm_>!help
01:26<jm_>you can use /msg dpkg help
01:27<jm_>dpkg, are you a bot?
01:27<dpkg>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
01:27<rakor>Cool
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03:54<scorpion2185[m]>fortune
03:54<scorpion2185[m]>bash: fortune: command not found
03:54<scorpion2185[m]>what happened? I can't use fortune anymore
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03:56<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: Do you have it installed?
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03:56<scorpion2185[m]>of course
03:57<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: What is the output of fortune-mod?
03:58<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: What is the output of `dpkg -L fortune-mod`?
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03:58<scorpion2185[m]>bash: fortune-mod: command not found
03:59<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: is /usr/games/ in #PATH ?
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03:59<scorpion2185[m]>somehow is not
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04:03<scorpion2185[m]>NOw I have this in my .profile to add the path:
04:03<scorpion2185[m]>export PATH="/usr/games/:$PATH"
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04:03<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: ideally you want /usr/games LAST in the $PATH, not first
04:04<scorpion2185[m]>And also other user is missing the path , I tried with su before to see what was the problem.
04:04<scorpion2185[m]>yes it is in the last lines
04:04<scorpion2185[m]>why is not working now?
04:04<scorpion2185[m]>I had some time ago
04:04<scorpion2185[m]>*had it
04:05<ratrace>"yes it is in the last lines" .. according to your export above, it's first, not last. did you correct that?
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04:05<qrpnxz>what is your experience running sid firefox?
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04:06<scorpion2185[m]>so how should it be?
04:07<scorpion2185[m]>I misunderstood, I thought the position of all on the lines
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04:07<jm_>qrpnxz: I use firefox from upstream
04:07<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: export PATH="${PATH}:/usr/games"
04:07<qrpnxz>jm_, ok
04:08<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: your /bin and /sbin (and their actual /usr/ locations) should be first for security reasosn and to avoid things like this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/938606/dwarf-fortress-starting-during-apt-get-upgrade
04:09<ratrace>though by default your ~/bin might be set up first, which is okay if you expect and want that
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04:12<scorpion2185[m]>can I reload the .profile without logging out?
04:12<scorpion2185[m]>I don't have any .bin i nmy home
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04:13<scorpion2185[m]>or /bin.
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04:19<scorpion2185[m]>It is not working . I used timeshift to restore system before I had KDE.
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04:26<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: what exactly is not working? setting PATH or invoking fortunes on otherwise valid PATH?
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04:29<scorpion2185[m]>invoking fortune or other files in /usr/games. Before it used to work.
04:30<scorpion2185[m]>I added the path to ~.profile. It was there already and it was working now I also set /usr/games LAST in the $PATH, not first as before.
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04:33<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: so after you re-login, and hit echo $PATH do you see /usr/games at the end?
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04:33<ratrace>by the way, all that should be default on debian. if you don't have it, you probably modified things you shoulnd't have
04:33<ratrace>like /etc/profile for example, which sets up /usr/games in the PATH
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04:34<ratrace>or you completely nuked and redefined PATH via shell rc, like ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
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04:37<scorpion2185[m]>By default root don't have it. So I added it. But now also other (normal) user don't have it.
04:37<scorpion2185[m]>I only added a few path all in ~.profile. That path, qt5ct path and echo fortune as in the fortune debian wiki.
04:37<scorpion2185[m]>Should I check system-wide paths?
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04:38<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: well, root is not supposed to be running any games, so that's not default for root, no
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04:39<scorpion2185[m]>why can't I add it now?
04:39<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: by default, using bash, /etc/profile puts usr/games into PATH. ~/.profile inherited from /etc/skel additionally adds ~/bin at the beginning of PATH
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04:40<ratrace>so that's for bash and any other shell that sources those files
04:40<ratrace>I don't know why "can't you", you'll have to define exactly what "can't" means. does it not appear in the $PATH?
04:40<ratrace>have you re-logged in? which shell rc files are you modifying?
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04:43<scorpion2185[m]>with echo "${PATH//:/$'\n'}" it doesn't appear. I re-logged in, and it was already there.
04:43<scorpion2185[m]>shell rc? I use the default /bin/bash
04:43<mimi89999>https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/testing.html
04:43<mimi89999>> The second set of tags indicate what releases a bug applies to: O for oldstable (jessie), S for stable (stretch), T for testing (buster), U for unstable (sid) or E for experimental.
04:43<mimi89999>The names are wrong. Could somebody fix that?
04:44<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: so in which shell rc (rc file is .bashrc, .profile, and others) did you put /usr/games back in the PATH, and how _Exactly_ ?
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04:46<scorpion2185[m]>In ~.profile.
04:46<scorpion2185[m]>I added this line: export PATH="${PATH}:/usr/games" in the end, before it was working
04:47<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: right, and now when you log out and log back in, either on the console or if you use KDE, then start a terminal. if you echo $PATH do you see /usr/games at the end of it? and do a plain echo $PATH , no substitution shenanigans
04:47<petn-randall>qrpnxz: Works fine for me, if you have any follow-up questions, you might want to ask in #debian-next.
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04:48<scorpion2185[m]>with echo $PATH I can't see any /usr/games. I removed KDE by restoring a timeshift backup.
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04:49<scorpion2185[m]>Do I need to use .bashrc instead maybe?
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04:53<ratrace>~/.bashrc should be sourced from your default ~/.profile
04:53<scorpion2185[m]>I can invoke in tty, does .profile only affect TTYs?
04:53<scorpion2185[m]>but before it was working...
04:53<ratrace>which means it wouldn't make a difference. ~/.profile is for login shells.
04:54<ratrace>it also sources .bashrc which is not specifically for login shells but obviously applies to both. that's a default setup. if you changed that, then who knows why or what you have there
04:54<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: Google "interactive non-interactive non-login login shell" and read up on the first stackoverflow question.
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05:03<scorpion2185[m]>I' ve read. and now? I didn't change defautl paths I only added that path
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05:05<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: do you also have ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login ?
05:07<scorpion2185[m]>No should I copy it from /etc/skel? If it is there
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05:07<scorpion2185[m]>There there is bash_logout
05:09<ratrace>then I don't understand why your ~/.profile doesn't work as expected .. I'm guessing you're not giving us the full picture here. Maybe start by pastebinning ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc
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05:13<scorpion2185[m]>.bashrc is the default all lines commented (root default). .profile : https://paste.debian.net/1199160/
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05:15<scorpion2185[m]>Before it was working, now not and also normal user doesn't have games path
05:15<scorpion2185[m]>(it used to have it by default).
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05:19<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: that's not a default ~/.profile on buster
05:19<ratrace>oh wait .... root?
05:20<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: how are you becoming root?
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05:22<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: if you're not using `su -l` or `su -` or `sudo -i` then /root/.profile will not be sourced at all
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05:29<scorpion2185[m]>Don't you feel it? I am root and root is me.
05:29<scorpion2185[m]>:) I am directly logging in as root.
05:30<at0m>everybody else runs
05:30<scorpion2185[m]>In the GUI instead of using some normal user
05:30*satanist graps some popcorn
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05:32<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: and then you start Konsole, and you type `echo $PATH` and "/usr/games" is not at the end of it?
05:33*ratrace won't even bother preaching about using root logins, won't even joke about rm rf
05:33<at0m>bash: rm: command not found
05:33<at0m>oops
05:34<scorpion2185[m]>yes I can invoke from there indeed
05:34<scorpion2185[m]>*can't
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05:34<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: so to parse what you just said, "/usr/games" is not at the end of $PATH?
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05:35<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: do you see a fortune quote when you start a Konsole shell?
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05:35<scorpion2185[m]>yes it is not at the end of $PATH when I use echo $PATH
05:36<scorpion2185[m]>wait sorry it is there
05:36<ratrace>...
05:36<ratrace>BESIDES your .profile paste shows that you invoke forutne with ABSOLUTE path so all this PATH dance is irrelevant for the way you use fortune
05:36<jm_>:)))
05:37<ratrace>so if usr/games is at the end of your root $PATH, because you added it in your /root/.profile, CASE CLOSED :)
05:37<scorpion2185[m]>I copied that from Deb wiki. ANd I use fortune from the terminal mostly
05:37<scorpion2185[m]>but it is not working!!!
05:37<ratrace>what is not working?
05:37<scorpion2185[m]>I can't see gnoem-nibbles for example
05:37<at0m>scorpion2185[m]: are you new to debian, linux?
05:37<ratrace>so far we operated on the premise that "did not worked" means there's no "/usr/games" in $PATH.
05:38<scorpion2185[m]>fortune is now working from terminal.
05:38<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: so if it is in $PATH, now you'll have to restart this issue, reset, and start again, describing exactly: what you're doing, what is supposed to happen, what is happening instead.
05:39<ratrace>I wonder however, if the channel policy even permits newbie users running as root, logged in as root in thir GUIs, from receiving support here....
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05:45<scorpion2185[m]>I can't see games from the main menu but maybe I need to relog in
05:45<scorpion2185[m]>from terminal I can launch them
05:45<scorpion2185[m]> * I can't see games from the main menu but maybe I need to reboot, I ' l lcheck later
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05:45<scorpion2185[m]>at0m: no why?
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05:50<scorpion2185[m]>ratrace: Since I didn't see gnome-nibbles on the main menu I thought that /usr/games wasn't in $PATH.
05:50<scorpion2185[m]>I can launch it from terminal so case closed :).
05:50<scorpion2185[m]>Main menu should find them after reboot, shouldn't it?
05:51<ratrace>I have no idea how "KDE main menu" works, but I would assume it had nothing to do with PATH and everything to do with a bunch of .desktop files installed in a predetermined location like, say, ~/.local/share/applications/ and related dirs
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05:52<scorpion2185[m]>I DELETED KDE right now I am logged in on gnome, I also have cinnamon maybe I will use that instead
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05:53<ratrace>gnome applications menu definitely has nothing to do with $PATH and everything to do with .desktop files in the above-mentioned directory and syste-wide counterrparts in /usr/share/
05:54<scorpion2185[m]>Before after I had the path I was able to see games in gnome apps menu.
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05:55<ratrace>PATH is only used by shells to resolve location of binaries when you execute them by not using absolute paths. it may be used by "run" and similar convenience GUI applications intended to bridge with command line.
05:55<ratrace>"before after" ... you'll want to refine that :)
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05:56<ratrace>at any rate, gnome applications definitely does not do any autodetection from $PATH. EVEN if it did, which it does NOT...... your ~/.profile has nothing to do with $PATH resolved by non-command-line environments
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05:57<ratrace>for those, you would need to set up PATH from scripts like ~/.xsessionrc which applies to Xorg sessions only, and I don't know if it's sourced by GDM. It _is_ sourced by LightDM for example.
05:58<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: also you mentioned some "time shift" restoration or something, I am assuming your "before" applies to "before you ran that timeshift restoration" ?
05:58<ratrace>so whatever change you caused tehre, borked your PATH and gods know what else, which removed your games from the gnome menu.
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06:02<scorpion2185[m]>Yes with "before" I mean the first time I addded the path becasue root doesn't have it by default.
06:02<scorpion2185[m]>Timeshift doesn't affectg the ~ unless you set it, I didn't I use it as system bqackup.
06:02<scorpion2185[m]>So the path was already there
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06:03<scorpion2185[m]>after the restoration but it wasn't working as before
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06:04<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: so your restoration borked ~/.local/share/applications and/or related directories under /usr/
06:05<scorpion2185[m]>restoration affected all but the home directories: /home and /root.
06:06<ratrace>scorpion2185[m]: /usr/share/applications/ then
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06:12<scorpion2185[m]>,v timeshift
06:12<judd>Package: timeshift on amd64 -- stretch-multimedia: 6.700-dmo2; buster: 19.01+ds-2+deb10u1; buster-backports: 20.11.1-1~bpo10+1; bullseye: 20.11.1-1; sid: 20.11.1-1
06:12<scorpion2185[m]>yes, thank you.
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07:52<r4fkramer>Hello, I would like to know why the Debian Project includes the 'yum' Manager to be installed on an OS based on .deb format through 'apt'. The question is: what would be the relevance of installing packages in .rpm format in Debian?
07:52<r4fkramer>Wouldn't this procedure affect Debian's renowned stability over time?
07:53<grawity>I don't think the goal was to let you *install* .rpm packages
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07:53<grawity>just to work with them in various other ways
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07:54<grawity>(and, I think yum is necessary to perform the fedora equivalent of debootstrap?)
07:54<r4fkramer>If it would not cause instability, at least it seems to me that this implies a risk of binary incompatibility in the future. Correct me if I am mistaken, please.
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07:55<r4fkramer>Hi grawity, thanks for answering. So, should it be relevant in debian ? Surprised here....
07:55<grawity>well, why not?
07:55<grawity>I have quite a few Debian containers on my Arch host, for example
07:55<grawity>people might want to build a Fedora container on Debian
07:56<r4fkramer>Is that your case as debian user ?
07:56<grawity>(Arch has both dpkg *and* rpm available, and people just...don't use them in a way that'd mess up the system. I haven't heard of anyone trying to install a .deb that way.)
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07:58<r4fkramer>Well, if it is in the official Debian archive, there would be some reason for it to be available there.
07:58<r4fkramer>Okay, grawity, thank you very much for the clarification.
07:58<r4fkramer>correcting here - debian repository
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07:59<r4fkramer>Why not including 'dnf' and 'pacman', for example ?
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08:01<grove>I would guess the main reason they are not available in debian is that nobody has voluntered to do the work needed to get them in
08:03<r4fkramer>Hi grove, that is what I've imagined, but wasn't so sure about it. Thank you very much for assistance :)
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08:31<safinaskar>i use debian stretch. my ISP doesn't provide ipv6. but some domains return ipv6 addresses via dns, for example
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08:31<safinaskar>downloads.haskell.org
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08:32<safinaskar>so, when i download something from downloads.haskell.org via wget, wget tries ipv6 first, hangs for long of time and then tries ipv4
08:32<safinaskar>so, i disable ipv6 using "sudo sysctl net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1"
08:33<safinaskar>unfortunately, after some time and some suspend-unsuspend cycles ipv6 for whatever reason is enabled again. note: i didn't reboot my machine, the only thing i did is suspend to ram
08:33<safinaskar>so, who is enabling ipv6?
08:33<safinaskar>this is laptop with wi-fi
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08:40<ratrace>safinaskar: did the sysctl flip the value from 1 to 0 ?
08:42<ratrace>safinaskar: meanwhile for things like wget, just force it to use -4
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08:46<misha1>Hello...
08:47<misha1>Any one online to help with a bug?
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08:48<grove>!tell misha1 about ask
08:49<misha1>Just installed debian-gnome... And my brightness keys are inverted.
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08:51<safinaskar>ratrace: "did the sysctl flip the value from 1 to 0 ?" - yes
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08:51<misha1>No. But I'm going to try just that!
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08:53<misha1>Though I'm not entirely sure how to do it...
08:53<richard_h>safinaskar: what does your ipv6 routing table look like? Do you have a default route? (ip -6 route)
08:54<richard_h>misha1: I'm not sure what you're going to try ... nobody has answered you yet?
08:55<misha1>@richard_h Yeah... My bad. I thought what safinaskar said was for me.
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08:55<ratrace>safinaskar: so maybe NetworkManager is messing that up?
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08:57<safinaskar>richard_h: currently ipv6 is disabled via sysctl. and "ip -6 route" prints nothing. if i enable ipv6, ip -6 route prints this:
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08:57<safinaskar>fe80::/64 dev docker0 proto kernel metric 256 pref medium
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08:58<richard_h>I'm not sure why it takes ages. It should immediately fail to find a route, and try v4 instead
08:58<safinaskar>(yes, i have docker installed, and i use it. but i noticed that suspriuous ipv6 enabling long before i started to use docker)
08:58<misha1>I have a problem with my brightness controls being inverted. I'm running Debian version 4.19.0-16amd64. When I try to increase my brightness (either using the keyboard keys or slider in settings), the brightness decreases. I expected it to work as per logic.
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08:58<safinaskar>ratrace: "so maybe NetworkManager is messing that up" - possibly. i don't know how to check that
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09:00<safinaskar>richard_h: i use wi-fi router. possibly it supports ipv6 and announces ipv6 support. but ipv6 still don't work because of ISP
09:00<ratrace>safinaskar: in the wireless connection, in NM options, on the ipv6 tab, select disable
09:01<richard_h>your routing table shows no routes except link-local
09:01<richard_h>so I don't think it's your router
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09:04<safinaskar>richard_h: when i send "ip -6 route" output, that was output immiadetly after "sudo sysctl net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=0". here is output after some time passed, it is bigger: https://paste.debian.net/1199189/
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09:04<safinaskar>ratrace: thanks, i did this
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09:04<safinaskar>ratrace: but i need to do this for every wi-fi connection?
09:04<Anarka>guess you have ipv6
09:04<Anarka>you sure your isp doesnt have it ?
09:05<safinaskar>Anarka: yes. "wget -6 ...." takes forever for any url
09:06<Anarka>you have an ipv6 address
09:06<Anarka>PJSC Moscow city telephone network
09:06<ratrace>safinaskar: how many do you have there? You should have one per wifi device, in which case the answer is yes
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09:07<richard_h>you shouldn't generally need to disable ipv6
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09:09<richard_h>unless you have it, but it's broken/misconfigured
09:09<richard_h>or possibly firewalled or something
09:11<safinaskar>ratrace: currently i use one wi-fi connection
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09:12<safinaskar>ratrace: but every time i go to some cafe, i will join wi-fi network there, so i have to disable ipv6 for every network
09:13<safinaskar>ratrace: but, well, it seems i understand. there is something wrong with particular wi-fi network i am using now, so i need to disable ipv6. and i hope there will no be such problems for other wi-fi. okey, thanks
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09:14<richard_h>safinaskar: if you want to try and fix it, rather than disabling, it, I'd try in #ipv6 (on irc.libera.chat)
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09:19<safinaskar>richard_h: it seems there is some problem with my router. ISP put this router to my house. i don't want to mess with it
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09:21<richard_h>safinaskar: ok - I'll stop pushing :-)
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09:45<sherab>on Debian 11 - how can I install the following package - libappindicator3-1 (tried the normal sodu apt install)
09:45<sherab>it said not available but is referred to by another package
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09:47<bremner>sherab: #debian-next is better for testing support. Also, why do you want to install that library?
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09:50<sherab>bremner: in order to install a softwar called xmind
09:50<sherab>thank for the tip
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12:20<misha1>Hello.
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12:30<misha1>I just did a fresh install of Debian -gnome on my HP laptop using a live disc image. The brightness controls of my laptop result in inverted output. Could really use some help since I've looked everywhere but none of the fixes worked.
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12:36<ajak>is it possible to know why a package is being removed as a result of another package being installed?
12:36<another>aptitude shows this a bit better
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12:37<misha1>ajak Possibly a case of dependencies? Though I'm yet to experience anything like it.
12:38<ajak>yeah, i'm just trying to track down exactly *why* that's happening, though i understand it's somewhat expected when mixing stable/unstable
12:39<jmux>Do you get some additional info, if you try to install both together?
12:40<ajak>both what? the unstable package i want and the package that gets removed?
12:40<jmux>Yup - the install and removed package on a single "apt install"
12:41<jmcnaught>!ssb
12:41<dpkg>First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>.
12:41<jmcnaught>ajak: ^ recompile the package for stable instead of installing directly from unstable.
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12:42<misha1>I'm facing an issue with my brightness control. When I try to increase brightness, it decreases and vice versa.
12:43<ajak>jmux: well, that's not really the solution i want because i only want one package from unstable, if i do `apt install -t foo bar` then both foo and bar are going to be installed from unstable
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12:44<ajak>jmcnaught: is it sane to distribute one of these packages locally?
12:45<jmux>ajak: ok - I just remeber I got some additional info, why I did that for the same distro. There is also "aptitude why".
12:45<jmcnaught>ajak: it's not sane to mix stable and unstable.
12:45<jmux>s/why/when/
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12:46<jmcnaught>ajak: what is the package you want from unstable? If it cannot be recompiled for stable, you could try running it in a chroot, container, or VM perhaps
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12:46<sych1ll>update-initramfs on Bullseye is creating an empty crypttab file. is it a bug or is it me? https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=6254660#post6254660
12:47<ajak>jmcnaught: fail2ban, i'm trying to get around a bug in stable (that will affect a number of the servers i manage) so running in some virtualization isn't really a great option
12:48<jmcnaught>judd: checkbackport fail2ban
12:48<judd>Backporting package fail2ban in sid→buster/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 12).
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12:50<jmcnaught>ajak: if you install debhelper from buster-backports then you can probably follow the instructions above for backporting, or these ones: https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
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12:52<ajak>i suppose it's possible to distribute the .deb locally, right?
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12:55<jmcnaught>I think it would be better than mixing stable and unstable are ~2 years apart now that bullseye will likely be released soon
12:55<jmux>sych1ll: likely /etc/cryptsetup-initramfs/conf-hook KEYFILE_PATTERN= , if it's the same then buster. But please go to #debian-next (see topic).
12:55<ajak>ack, thanks
12:56<sych1ll>jmux: thanks
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12:58*jmux … very often it's easy to reduce the dephelper version, because it is just increased for a feature in the newer distro - hard to know and definitly needs some packaging knowledge
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13:49<scorpion2185[m]>Games don't show in gnome apps menu.
13:49<scorpion2185[m]>It seems that the path /usr/games is the problem, I can invoke them from the terminal.
13:49<scorpion2185[m]>The path is active
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13:53<jmcnaught>scorpion2185[m]: which games?
13:53<scorpion2185[m]>gnome-nibbles , gnome-mines etc
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13:55<jmcnaught>scorpion2185[m]: they're in GNOME menus here on buster and bullseye. Being in /usr/games is not relevant, it is whether there is a .desktop file for the application(s) in /usr/share/applications/
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13:56<scorpion2185[m]>who is the owner the .dekstop?
13:56<scorpion2185[m]>*of the
13:57<sych1ll>is there a way to restrict update-grub to only look at one hard drive for bootable partitions?
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13:57<jmcnaught>scorpion2185[m]: root root owns those files but they are readable by others
13:58<sney>sych1ll: I'm pretty sure that if you remove os-prober, it will only update based on the local mounted disk
13:59<scorpion2185[m]>i have these .desktop but they don't appear in the apps menu
14:00<sych1ll>sney: actually i'd like to get to the bottom of os-prober. I did not install os-prober, and update-grub errored because /var/lib/os-prober/mount did not exist. To make update-grub finish the process and to silence the error, I did "mkdir -p /var/lib/os-prober/mount"
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14:01<sych1ll>i never installed the os-prober pkg, but wondered if i should have
14:01<sney>sych1ll: it's called from /etc/grub.d, I've never done much tinkering with it but the scripts in there should be readable
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14:01<sney>,i os-prober
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14:01<judd>Package os-prober (utils, optional) in buster/amd64: utility to detect other OSes on a set of drives. Version: 1.77; Size: 29.5k; Installed: 108k; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/os-prober
14:02<sney>the description is pretty clear
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14:02<scorpion2185[m]>jmcnaught: what could be the problem?
14:03<jmcnaught>scorpion2185[m]: are you on buster or bullseye? Using parental controls?
14:03<sych1ll>guess i'm glad i didn't install os-prober, but it's not right that i had to "mkdir -p /var/lib/os-prober/mount" to make update-grub run error-free
14:04<scorpion2185[m]>buster no parentals control.
14:04<scorpion2185[m]>after I used timeshift to restore a backup I am having this problem
14:04<sych1ll>.. and then i still got the effect of os-prober
14:04<sney>right, it's only recommended by grub-common, even if it's intended for most installations it should still work without it
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14:05<jmcnaught>scorpion2185[m]: have you restarted gnome-shell or logged out and logged back in?
14:06<scorpion2185[m]>I restarted the pc some times
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14:10<jmcnaught>scorpion2185[m]: you could try reinstalling one of the missing games to see if it reappears, "aptitude reinstall gnome-mines" for example.
14:10<jmcnaught>Maybe your backup/restore missed some files.
14:11<scorpion2185[m]>I tried with apt, no need to relog in in this case right?
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14:12<jmcnaught>scorpion2185[m]: should not need to relogin, newly installed applications show up in GNOME's menu normally.
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14:13<Sqrt{not}>gnome is not normally used by root, and the menus and non-root config files are not usually intended for root either
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14:13<jmcnaught>scorpion2185[m]: are you logging in as root?
14:14<Sqrt{not}>also trying to run gnome apps from a KDE desktop is a little strange
14:14<scorpion2185[m]>Yes but before apps were in gnome menu. I used timeshift to REMOVE KDE
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14:17<jmcnaught>scorpion2185[m]: if you are logging in as root please log in as a regular user. Maybe GNOME will not show icons for .desktop files whose programs are not in $PATH (root's $PATH excludes /usr/games)
14:17<Sqrt{not}>scorpion2185[m], the normal unix systems have separate defaults and paths and menus for normal users, and root is a world all to itself.
14:17<Sqrt{not}>jmcnaught, you won't convince them to do anything as non-root
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14:18<jmcnaught>scorpion2185[m]: maybe you should lead all support questions with "I log into GNOME as root" so people know you are doing something wrong to start with.
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14:18<scorpion2185[m]>Yes for root you need to add the path /usr/games. I added it and was all fine but after I used timeshift apps aren't showing in main menu anymore
14:19<scorpion2185[m]>I am going to check normal user after timeshift also that had troubles with that path
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14:24<scorpion2185[m]>Normal user has games in GNOME's menu.
14:24<scorpion2185[m]>But before it was working also for root. well it's not big deal
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15:00<Zubin>scorpion2185[m], i cant get the matrix irc bridge to join this channel. did you have to do anything special? are you on matrix?
15:00<Zubin>im wondering if 900 people is just too big for it
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15:42<sych1ll>how can I get a list of window managers available in debian? i tried "aptitude search ~dwindow.manager", but that's not just window managers; it's liberies, extensions, and all support pkgs that mention the term "window manager"
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15:42<sych1ll>is there a way to search/browse by category of app?
15:43<sney>!debtags
15:43<dpkg>debtags is probably a way of categorising packages with tags (facets) that describe how a package can be used, what data it can read/write, what interfaces it has etc. This adds another dimension to package searching. Install the debtags package, then search either using "debtags" or "aptitude". For a GUI install packagesearch. Search (or add new tags) at http://debtags.debian.net/ . See also http://wiki.debian.org/Debtags or ask me about ...
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15:43<sych1ll>thanks
15:43<sarnold>sych1ll: there's no guarantees that it is comprehensive, but apt-cache search x-window-manager
15:43<sney>aptitude can also search the Provides field, so you can look for anything that provides x-window-manager
15:44<sarnold>(many of them Provides: x-window-manager)
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15:48<scorpion2185[m]>Zubin:Yes I am on matrix , revolt (Deb pkg) I followed a link
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15:49<scorpion2185[m]>jmcnaught: can I try something to fix games not showing up? I can manualyl add gnome-nibbles since is the only that I use maybe twice per year.
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15:50<Zubin>scorpion2185[m], when did you first join?
15:50<scorpion2185[m]>I don't remember
15:50<Zubin>I have had some friends attemp it today and it fails for all of us
15:50<Zubin>i think its a bug with something about this channel. Guessing size, but could be something else (+c?)
15:50<scorpion2185[m]>wait I ll fetch the link that worked for me
15:50<Zubin>i assume its #_oftc_#debian:matrix.org
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15:51<sarnold>Zubin: +c strips colours, that's rpobably unrelated https://www.oftc.net/ChannelModes/
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15:52<Zubin>libera is running their own irc bridge now (instead of matrix.org) and i'm in their main channel which has nearly 3000 users joined. but maybe the matrix.org run bridge is broken somehow with the 900 in here, is all I can think of
15:52<Zubin>or theres something or someone in here triggering a bug
15:53<Zubin>}ls{ maybe, or something like that. god knows
15:53<Zubin>trying to get the bridge folks to take a look
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16:00<klswed[m]>Is debian 11's release date already decided?
16:01<scorpion2185[m]>!bullseye pool 1
16:01<dpkg>! scorpion2185=2021-08-25 antto=2021-07-07 räträcé=2021-06-13 jëlly=2021-06-06 themíll=2021-09-01
16:02<bremner>in short, no
16:02<scorpion2185[m]>https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/
16:02<klswed[m]>Thank you!
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16:57<sercanbrack[m]>I’m coming from Matrix. Is this the official Debian IRC channel? I can’t tell if I’ve got the bridge configured correctly or not.
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16:57<ratrace>sercanbrack[m]: yes
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17:01<vdamewood>I probably should have put the schema in there, too.
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18:29<jfmods>hola
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18:30<sney>jfmods: hi, do you have a debian question?
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19:32<DeeEff>Has the latest thunderbird on sid seemed... a bit broken to anyone else?
19:32<DeeEff>It doesn't seem to handle RSS feeds properly anymore
19:33<DeeEff>and I had to re-login to every single mail account
19:33<DeeEff>obviously general advice about running the "unstable" distro applies but I was wondering if this is a config problem (I have a very old config, it still in fact has lived from the icedove days)
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19:43<maferv>Hi, what's the best way to encrypt the home partition?
19:44<DeeEff>maferv: make it a LUKS / encrypted partition during installation
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19:45<DeeEff>LUKS encryption after you already have put a filesystem and many files on a block device is not recommended (you have to zero it out) and is unwieldy at best
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19:52<maferv>so LUKS is "the Debian way" @DeeEff?
19:55<DeeEff>maferv: it is the default, and the installer supports it (although you don't really get to pick any options if you use the installer)
19:55<DeeEff>If you're trying to use some other method of encryption, you'll probably be fighting an uphill battle
19:56<DeeEff>since Debian uses systemd, which integrates with (exclusively?) cryptsetup, you'll probably just want to use LUKS
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19:56<angel>hola
19:56<angel>no se que es esto
19:56<DeeEff>It's possible to set your own parameters when encrypting your disk if you're using the advanced instealler but it's usually not worth the effort
19:56<angel>segun es para hablar con gente desconosida
19:57<jmcnaught>!es
19:57<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat. - https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/
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19:57<maferv>ouch, I'm not using kosher Debian since the mandatory systemd like 2 versions ago @DeeEff
19:58<maferv>does cryptsetup work without systemd?
19:58<DeeEff>Well, this is the "standard" Debian channel. :)
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19:58<DeeEff>it does work without systemd
19:58<DeeEff>although I think it relies on libsystemd in vanilla Debian
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19:59<DeeEff>You can check out #devuan on liberachat if you're committed to not using systemd and doing something non-standard
19:59<DeeEff>although you can also just switch to OpenRC after first boot and that works _just fine_
19:59<DeeEff>although is a bit non-standard in the community
19:59<maferv>why the mandatory systemd guys... why? =(
19:59<sarnold>it isn't?
19:59<sarnold>install what you want
20:00<DeeEff>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
20:00<jmcnaught>cryptsetup does not depend on systemd
20:00<DeeEff>jmcnaught: really? I thought it had a libsystemd dependency because of udev or something. It has been a while since I messed around at that level
20:01<maferv>do any of you use a LUKS-encrypted home?
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20:01<DeeEff>but like I said > you can also just switch to OpenRC after first boot
20:01<DeeEff>maferv: I have everything except /boot encrypted
20:01<DeeEff>including extra HDDs
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20:01<jmcnaught>I use the full disk encryption set up by guided partitioning in the Debian installer
20:02<maferv>maybe you have important info in /etc and /opt but why the rest of the system? @DeeEff
20:02<DeeEff>maferv: well it's easier to encrypt all of / instead of picking and choosing
20:02<DeeEff>but more importantly, why not?
20:02<DeeEff>I'd rather not leave my disk open to anyone just writing _OR_ reading random bytes from it
20:02<maferv>I thought there was a performance penalty
20:03<DeeEff>uh, not enough to stop anything
20:03<DeeEff>I play games on Steam on Debian with no noticeable problems
20:03<DeeEff>I have an NVMe SSD too, so I mean, any loss of performance is inconsequential
20:03<maferv>so there is no impact on performance?
20:03<maferv>I'll be using this setup with a regular SSD
20:04<DeeEff>not noticeably on my system. I lost more performance to Spectre / Meltdown patches on my old machine than I ever did to encryption
20:04<DeeEff>that said if you had a 5400 RPM disk on an old netbook or something, I can't speak to that
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20:06<maferv>did you roll back your firmware @DeeEff?
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20:06<maferv>fking hate Intel and their backdoors
20:07<maferv>they limited undervolting on laptops because "it's a security risk"
20:07<DeeEff>nope. That machine eventually died due to a decade-old SSD
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20:08<DeeEff>I decided to recycle the parts and upgrade
20:08<maferv>O_O
20:08<DeeEff>now I run with a Rizen CPU
20:08<maferv>nice
20:08<maferv>you said earlier that once the Debian install is finished you can change your init system to OpenRC?
20:09<DeeEff>yup. I think usually it's just `apt install openrc` and `apt remove systemd`
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20:09<maferv>come on, that's too good to be true
20:09<maferv>Devuan without the systemd vibe feels so clean and snappy
20:09<DeeEff>This is a bit different from e.g. Devuan
20:09<DeeEff>they go farther to remove even libsystemd0
20:09<maferv>I will see if I can reproduce this in vanilla Debian
20:10<DeeEff>good luck
20:10<maferv>systemd is a corporate cancer, like mono
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20:24<alex11>why is gcc-doc in contrib?
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20:28<DeeEff>not a great answer but because it depends on gcc-10-doc which is in non-free
20:28<DeeEff>I don't have a clue why that's in non-free though
20:28<alex11>oh wait, because it's gnu right
20:28<alex11>yeah makes sense now
20:29<alex11>i know the emacs documentation is non-free because of invariant sections
20:29<sney>!gfdl
20:29<dpkg>[gfdl] The GNU "Free" Documentation License, considered <non-free> by Debian in some cases. Read the discussion at http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200309/msg00169.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200304/msg00246.html . See the position statement at http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.html and resolution at http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001
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20:48<maferv>so as I'm seeing here the installer first creates an LVM volume. What are the risks that the LVM becomes corrupted? and also you mentioned before about using a new empty disk, but if I already used the disk, is it safe to erase it with the installer? what's the quickest way? @DeeEff
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20:53<dvs>maferv: who are you talking to? You won't get their attention unless you use their nick like I did for you.
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20:56<maferv>I thought putting the @ in the front was the correct way, thanks dvs
20:56<maferv>so as I'm seeing here the installer first creates an LVM volume. What are the risks that the LVM becomes corrupted? and also you mentioned before about using a new empty disk, but if I already used the disk, is it safe to erase it with the installer? what's the quickest way? DeeEff
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21:50<Sqrt{not}>maferv, I don't think it is necessary to erase a previously used disk, before installing onto it. You can treat it as empty, without erasing first.
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21:50<maferv>in any case, what would be the safest way to completely erase it? Sqrt{not}
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21:53<sarnold>dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/disknamehere bs=32768 or something similar would do a good job
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22:19<maferv>is urandom better than zero? faster/slower? sarnold
22:20<sarnold>maferv: urandom is vastly better than zero for this case -- many drive firmwares are optimized to compress data or look for big runs of zeros and don't actually write them to storage
22:20<sarnold>maferv: which means the zeros are fine if you trust the firmware quite a lot, but if you're going to be selling the drives when you're done, it's not something I'd trust
22:21<sarnold>maferv: urandom can't be compressed, so the drive is actually going to have to write all that data on top of your data
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22:40<Cheeky>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:07<Bean>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:19<Dum_Dum>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:22<Lefty>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:25<LaLa>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:28<peace2>How to you see the version of firmware used by a USB device?
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23:28<Gator>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:29<ericnoan>wow so many spambots
23:29<ericnoan>what is going on
23:29<ericnoan>any ops here?
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23:30<sney>they are being killed by the network as soon as they join, so channel ops don't need to get involved. it's botnet stuff and it'll pass
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23:31<ericnoan>can't they catch them before they message the channel?
23:31<dwfreed>what sney said
23:31<dwfreed>no
23:31<Diesel>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:31<ericnoan>wow
23:32<ericnoan>this is the same kind of spam I saw on freenode
23:32<sney>it is almost certainly the exact same script (it's on github!)
23:33<ericnoan>these people doing this are really sad, i feel sorry for them
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23:36<Double_Bubble>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:40<Chicken_Legs>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:43<Pansy>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:43<catman370>wtf
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23:46<Turtle>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:50<Bunny_Rabbit>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:56<Swiss_Miss>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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23:59<Swiss_Miss>first they came for the #liberia ns and we said nothing, then they came for #israel and we said nothing, they even went after chatters with #autism. they dont want us to #stopasianhate
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