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| 00:33 | <peace2> | Which desktop environment can automatically run a shell script when it starts? |
| 00:33 | <raven523> | I think all of them cam |
| 00:33 | <raven523> | *can |
| 00:34 | <raven523> | even a lot of window managers can |
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| 00:34 | <DeeEff> | peace2: depends, you can run a one-time systemd service on boot/login with any DE |
| 00:36 | <peace2> | I expected it to be easy too, but xfce looks buggy to me. |
| 00:36 | <DeeEff> | peace2: https://superuser.com/questions/1037466/how-to-start-a-systemd-service-after-user-login-and-stop-it-before-user-logout/1269158 |
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| 00:39 | <peace2> | DeeEff, I need as more reliable desktop environment. |
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| 00:41 | <peace2> | s/as/a/ |
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| 01:18 | <somiaj> | peace2: most DEs will honor XDG .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart/ which can be used to launch shell scripts. Though what does this shell script you are wanting to run do? |
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| 01:18 | <somiaj> | systemd can have user services, though this may not be the best tool, it really depends on what it is you need that script to do. |
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| 01:20 | <tzf> | ?><m kl;[] |
| 01:21 | <tzf> | oops, sorry |
| 01:21 | <r4fkramer> | Hi all, I use mate DE in debian buster In a submenu in this DE, Through System -> Hardware -> Power Management, you have the option to set up your OS so that the screen never close after a certain time. |
| 01:21 | <r4fkramer> | Although I have adopted the 'Nothing' and 'Never' option, the screen always closes after 30 minutes. |
| 01:21 | <r4fkramer> | Please, Does anyone know how to do command line to what the screen never close, even after prolonged disuse? |
| 01:21 | <tzf> | I droped some water spaters and urgently cleaned my keyboard, really sorry about that maties |
| 01:23 | <somiaj> | r4fkramer: xorg has a default console blanking, you can disable it with xset s off (provided that is what is turining off your monintor) |
| 01:23 | <ASDX> | what needs to be configured in acng.conf for apt-cacher-ng to be used for debian 10 when apt-cacher-ng is running on a debian 9 server? |
| 01:24 | <r4fkramer> | Hi somiaj, thank you for answering, could you please tell me the path to get this console blanking ? |
| 01:26 | <somiaj> | I gave you the command, 'xset s off' turns it off |
| 01:27 | <r4fkramer> | oh, sorry, I didn't think it was about a command. Let me try it now |
| 01:29 | <r4fkramer> | somiaj, I used this command as root, and the output was: 'xset: unable to open display ""' |
| 01:30 | <jm_> | you need to run it as user that has access to X server - your regular user is fine |
| 01:31 | <r4fkramer> | Fine, jm, thank you for answering |
| 01:31 | <r4fkramer> | Only this ? |
| 01:33 | <jm_> | as somiaj said, it depends - there's also dpms option, i.e. «xset -dpms» - use also this one if monitor switches off |
| 01:34 | <r4fkramer> | can I use both ? |
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| 01:35 | <r4fkramer> | Oh, ok you answered this already. Thank you very much |
| 01:36 | <jm_> | sure |
| 01:38 | <somiaj> | r4fkramer: I never said to run it as root, you need to run it as the user who owns the xsession |
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| 01:43 | <r4fkramer> | I ran it as root by mistake; but jm already enlightened me about this. |
| 01:44 | <r4fkramer> | Thank you somiaj and jm_ for Support :) |
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| 03:54 | <PatilAB> | Dear Debian experts, is debain buster ver 10.9 compatible with DELL precision Tower 3640 |
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| 04:12 | <ratrace> | PatilAB: hard to say. you should look up compatibility of the Linux kernel wiht specific hardware in that thing |
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| 04:20 | <petn-randall> | ASDX: Usually nothing special. Are you running into specific issues? |
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| 04:53 | <subskolma_> | whois subskolma |
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| 05:22 | <petn-randall> | subskolma_: That's a metaphorical question, right? |
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| 05:48 | <subskolma_> | petn-randall: yeah all good.. forgot the slash / - bit embarrassing |
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| 05:53 | <petn-randall> | who *is* subskolma_, though? Man, myth, legend? |
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| 06:36 | <Moussa_mht> | Hello there ! |
| 06:36 | <Moussa_mht> | !ping Hello |
| 06:36 | * | dpkg tolls a 5-meter-bell over Hello's head |
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| 06:37 | <Moussa_mht> | ahh funny |
| 06:37 | * | ratrace hits the bell with a brass mallet |
| 06:38 | <Moussa_mht> | I use irc for the first time that why |
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| 06:45 | <ratrace> | !welcome |
| 06:45 | <dpkg> | Welcome to #debian, the larger but unofficial support channel for Debian GNU/Linux stable releases. Official channels have moved to OFTC (irc.oftc.net) see https://wiki.debian.org/IRC for a complete list. If you are new to Debian see https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian and https://www.debian.org/social_contract.en.html if these sound good to you, then, welcome to the Debian community! |
| 06:45 | <ratrace> | ehhhh |
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| 06:46 | <enkrypt> | uhm |
| 06:46 | <enkrypt> | weird welcome msg :) |
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| 06:48 | <petn-randall> | It should probably say on oftc that it's the only official support channel. :) |
| 06:48 | <ratrace> | I think it's the common, shared db |
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| 06:50 | <ratrace> | wth, dpkg doesn't work in privmsg? |
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| 06:50 | <petn-randall> | ratrace: it does. |
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| 06:51 | <ratrace> | !welcome oftc |
| 06:51 | <dpkg> | Welcome to OFTC/#debian, the official support channel for Debian GNU/Linux stable releases. See https://wiki.debian.org/IRC for a complete list of Debian IRC channels. If you are new to Debian see https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian and https://www.debian.org/social_contract.en.html if these sound good to you, then, welcome to the Debian community! |
| 06:51 | <ratrace> | there. |
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| 06:56 | <onyx> | hi |
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| 06:56 | <onyx> | On debian 10.9 getting network unreachable |
| 06:57 | <onyx> | How to fix that please? |
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| 06:58 | <ratrace> | onyx: depends what's making it unreachable. no routing table on your local machine? or is that the gateway reporting? please pastebin the full output of the command you're using and the output you get. |
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| 07:12 | <petn-randall> | onyx: How is the machine connected to the network? How did you you configure the network? |
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| 07:52 | <onyx> | @ratrace: I tried the command «ip link show»; below is the output of the command: 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eno1: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether a4:ba:db:17:a9:92 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: eno2: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noo |
| 07:53 | <onyx> | @pet-randall: network configuration on server is DHCP. I tried the command «ip link show»; below is the output of the command: 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eno1: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether a4:ba:db:17:a9:92 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 3: e |
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| 07:57 | <jm_> | use https://paste.debian.net instead |
| 07:58 | <jm_> | but yeah, with eno1 being down ... |
| 07:58 | <petn-randall> | onyx: Please use https://paste.debian.net, this is unreadable. |
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| 08:14 | <meebey> | since I got my new Dell XPS 9500 2020 my mouse acts weirdly. Sometimes it stops working and then works again. Has anyone experienced such issue before? My 2016 Dell with the same Debian system didn't have this issue so I wonder if this is a driver or hardware problem... |
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| 08:31 | <onyx> | @ratrace: https://paste.debian.net/1199600/ |
| 08:31 | <onyx> | @petn-randall:https://paste.debian.net/1199600/ |
| 08:32 | <ItRisesFromTheAshes> | Hello. I'm using MX-Linux and I have a unique issue. I don't have internet access on my "daily driver". I'm attempting to use MX-Linux's "snapshot" tool. My question is this: If I install all applications that I need on my "daily-driver" system and then create the "Snapshot" will I run into issues installing it? I've booted into a "live" environment. That's what I'm installing the apps into and will create the snapshot |
| 08:32 | <ItRisesFromTheAshes> | from.... |
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| 08:33 | <avu> | !mx linux |
| 08:33 | <dpkg> | MX Linux is a popular distribution <based on debian>. It is not supported in #debian. Support is available on their forum: https://forum.mxlinux.org/. It is related to <antix>. If you are new to linux, or want a distro with IRC support, try Debian instead: https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian |
| 08:34 | <ItRisesFromTheAshes> | avu, surely you're not so overwhelmed with "debian" support issues on this channel to warrant brushing me off so quickly! ;-p |
| 08:35 | <towo^work> | that does not mean, you get mx support here |
| 08:35 | <avu> | ItRisesFromTheAshes: it's not about capactiy, it's about the fact that we don't know what parts of the system are different in distributions based on Debian |
| 08:35 | <towo^work> | if we would support mx-linux here, the channel wouldn't named #debian |
| 08:36 | <ItRisesFromTheAshes> | towo^work, obviously. I'm a fellow Linux user reaching out to other linux users.... |
| 08:36 | <ItRisesFromTheAshes> | towo^work, sarcasm doesn't yield brownies! |
| 08:36 | <avu> | ItRisesFromTheAshes: you're reaching out to Debian users in a Debian channel but you're not using Debian. |
| 08:36 | <towo^work> | you find other linux users in the mx chat |
| 08:36 | <egawrilow2016> | Hello Debian Community. Yes, I am the same egawrilow2016 who asked the question about the error in the Proot environment. As it turned out, the version of Debootstrap provided by Termux has problems, which causes an error when installing LXDE. The problem was solved by generating an image on a computer with a regular Debian, and then I just transferred the image to my phone as a .tar.gz archive, and then I just installed it in Termux. That is, t |
| 08:36 | <egawrilow2016> | put it simply, Termux's version of Debootstrap generates the wrong images, and the official version from Debian has solved the problem. |
| 08:36 | <ItRisesFromTheAshes> | there isn't a official "mx linux" irc channel, else I wouldn't be here |
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| 08:37 | <avu> | ItRisesFromTheAshes: the factoid I made the bot tell you contains a link to their support forum, try it there. No matter how much you'd like it to be otherwise, you are wrong here. |
| 08:38 | <ItRisesFromTheAshes> | avu, indeed |
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| 08:44 | <Schproodle> | ItRisesFromTheAshes, Support is available on their forum: https://forum.mxlinux.org/ |
| 08:45 | <ItRisesFromTheAshes> | Schproodle, yup. I'm searching it now.... |
| 08:45 | <choozy> | Heyhey |
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| 08:46 | <choozy> | Do any of you know if the Buster release gets deployed with unattended upgrades enabled by default and this could run at boottime if it is the case? |
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| 08:48 | <Mister00X> | choozy: If you choose gnome as DE it should be enabled by default |
| 08:49 | <choozy> | No, I had the netinstaller installed but deployed the Cinnamon desktop on top of it |
| 08:49 | <choozy> | I don't know if that can have an impact? |
| 08:50 | <Mister00X> | As to when exactely it runs I have no idea but you could check /var/log/apt/history.log for entries reading unattended-upgrades |
| 08:51 | <Mister00X> | choozy: what is your overall goal do you want unattended-upgrades enabled or not? |
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| 08:51 | <choozy> | I don't mind it being enabled, I would like to know if it runs on boottime, because I suspect it does |
| 08:52 | <Mister00X> | choozy: well in that case have a look at /var/log/apt/history.log or ofc have a look at apt policy unattended-upgrades |
| 08:52 | <choozy> | Yes, that logfile says that the process is starting |
| 08:52 | <choozy> | (The unattended upgrades.log) |
| 08:54 | <choozy> | I have to go |
| 08:54 | <Mister00X> | choozy: From my experience it does not run at boot but about 10 min after boot |
| 08:54 | <choozy> | Ah yes |
| 08:54 | <choozy> | Thank you for the good advice Mister00X |
| 08:54 | <Mister00X> | youre welcome |
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| 08:55 | <bremner> | choozy: are you running something before buster now? |
| 08:55 | <bremner> | afaik, UU does not do dist upgrades |
| 08:57 | <Mister00X> | bremner: (s)he's gone |
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| 10:41 | -!- | greg is "realname" on #debian #debian-next #debian-printing |
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| 13:14 | <pingouin> | hello |
| 13:15 | <pingouin> | sorry is it the «new» #debian channel moved from #freenode ? Or the #debian freenode is still on ? |
| 13:15 | <pingouin> | sorry i'm lost, just read few things around the #freenode troubles last weeks |
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| 13:18 | <FLHerne> | pingouin: Moved here, mostly |
| 13:18 | <ThothK1> | Pingouin: for your second question FreeNode::Debian is still active |
| 13:18 | <FLHerne> | (official one is still OFTC) |
| 13:19 | <pingouin> | ok ! thank you guys for these answers ! appreciate ! feel lost, just red about the "freenode" troubles not sure i understand everything and what to do of freenode |
| 13:19 | <pingouin> | many thanks |
| 13:19 | <blast007> | pingouin: the move from Freenode to OTFC for the official channel happened in 2006, not due to this recent situation |
| 13:19 | <blast007> | https://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060604 |
| 13:20 | <pingouin> | blast007: ooops , did not knew that, always used the #debian on freenode :/ |
| 13:20 | <pingouin> | feel stupid now ;) |
| 13:20 | <blast007> | I think there's a lot of the same people helping out in both |
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| 13:21 | <blast007> | the Freenode one is likely very active as well |
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| 13:23 | <sussudio> | not really. it's been bleeding out since the hostile takeover. |
| 13:23 | <cmm11> | there's also the libera one |
| 13:24 | <pingouin> | i've to change some automatic setting in my irssi config file for autoconnect etc |
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| 13:24 | <pingouin> | thank you all for your answers |
| 13:24 | <pingouin> | all the best |
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| 13:38 | <bahamat> | If I've got some custom systemd unit files in some arbitrary directory, the right way to get systemd to recognize those is `systemctl link /path/to/uinit`? |
| 13:38 | <bahamat> | And that replaces `systemctl enable unit`? |
| 13:39 | <bahamat> | And both systemctl link and systemctl enable just creates symlinks to the stuff, right? So I could create those symlinks myself? |
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| 14:02 | <Konomi> | systemctl enable [path] |
| 14:02 | <Konomi> | and by path I mean the full path |
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| 14:03 | <Konomi> | after that you can just use the unit name |
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| 16:12 | <qrpnxz> | anybody have an estimate on when bullseye hits stable? |
| 16:12 | <sney> | !bullseye pool 1 |
| 16:12 | <dpkg> | ! scorpion2185=2021-08-25 antto=2021-07-07 räträcé=2021-06-13 jëlly=2021-06-06 themíll=2021-09-01 |
| 16:12 | <sney> | Soon (tm) |
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| 16:13 | <qrpnxz> | i wonder what these code words are for |
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| 16:14 | <lavamind> | the names of different AI deep learning algorithms being tested to predict distribution release dates |
| 16:14 | <sney> | those are the people who placed those bets on when it will release |
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| 16:16 | <qrpnxz> | lavamind, lol good one |
| 16:17 | <qrpnxz> | sney, if the predictions are public won't it be too easy to do insider betting? |
| 16:17 | <qrpnxz> | well i guess it could happen either way |
| 16:17 | <sney> | I guess that would matter if there were any stakes, or a prized |
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| 16:17 | <sney> | watch the green line, when it gets to 0 then bullseye will release: https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 16:19 | <qrpnxz> | indeed thx for link |
| 16:19 | <qrpnxz> | huh, seems more than last release |
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| 16:20 | <somiaj> | well since the number of packages is always increasing, seems reasoanble |
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| 16:22 | <qrpnxz> | Yes. I reckon Fedora releases so quickly by purposely keeping the number of packages at bay. And ig Ubuntu has the backing of Canonical. |
| 16:22 | <qrpnxz> | well and also Fedora has RedHat behind it ig |
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| 16:23 | <somiaj> | Ubuntu only cares about its core, and just doesn't worry about the majority of its packages (leaves that up to debian) |
| 16:23 | <somiaj> | I think ubuntu calls it the universe or something like that |
| 16:24 | <sney> | fedora is also billed as a testing/development distro, so even their releases are allowed to have some degree of instability. debian stable is intended for production, so it's a higher standard. |
| 16:24 | <somiaj> | They also work on timelines, and if there are still rc bugs at that point, either throw package out or ignore it, debian works on when it is ready. |
| 16:24 | <qrpnxz> | I wish there was more money inflow from users. Like you could do pay what you want on the software app and it gave a cut to the mantainer and pay what you want on debian iso download as well. Just more encouraging to give. |
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| 16:25 | <sney> | AIUI debian has plenty of money, funding is not considered an issue |
| 16:25 | <qrpnxz> | what's AIUI |
| 16:25 | <sney> | as I understand it |
| 16:25 | <somiaj> | even then, who would do the work? Debian has lots of funding through various means, but there is still only a limited number of people actually fixing these bugs |
| 16:25 | <sney> | there was an interview with the debian project leader a few years ago that said roughly the same thing |
| 16:26 | <qrpnxz> | which thing |
| 16:26 | <qrpnxz> | that debian had plenty of money? |
| 16:26 | <sney> | that there isn't a problem with money, and that what debian needs (if anything) is more volunteers doing more work |
| 16:26 | <somiaj> | and mostly money is not an issue in debian development. |
| 16:26 | <qrpnxz> | Because i think mantainers are almost all voluntiers (correct me) |
| 16:26 | <plaur> | the number of packages in fedora is comparable with debian, and most of the contributors work on it on their free time, not paid for it by red hat (not even the RH employees, with very few exceptions) |
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| 16:29 | <qrpnxz> | Surely debian has like some kind of deadline tho right? Otherwise some packages could hold up release forever. |
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| 16:30 | <sney> | not exactly, but it typically takes around ~2 years between releases, and any big hairy transitions are dealt with as needed |
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| 16:31 | <plaur> | sney: what kind of work are volunteers needed for? becoming a debian devel is a very involved rivial, and putting together debian packages is quite complex compared to rpm, especially if you never did it before - even with the devel documentation |
| 16:31 | <plaur> | s/rivial// ^ |
| 16:32 | <sney> | approximately this list, https://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/work_needing |
| 16:32 | <sney> | and yes there is a learning curve for the debian tools, *but* there is also a great support system, so it goes pretty fast for people willing to dedicate a little bit of time |
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| 17:37 | <jhutchins> | plaur: Running testing and searching for bugs helps, and gets you more into the system. |
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| 17:59 | <plaur> | jhutchins: are patches for bugs from users generally welcome? i saw salsa.debian.org, not sure if that's only for internal usage by debian developers though |
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| 18:00 | <lavamind> | patches are always welcome |
| 18:00 | <jhutchins> | plaur: I think the correct protocol is to either open or comment on a bug report with the detailed patch/fix. |
| 18:01 | <lavamind> | if you want to send a MR on salsa, you need to refer to it in a bug report at least, otherwise it might not get noticed |
| 18:01 | <jhutchins> | plaur: I've done that for RedHat, so far my average time-to-publish the fix is two years. |
| 18:02 | <plaur> | no, sending patches by email is fine |
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| 18:02 | <jhutchins> | plaur: Yes the patches are welcome. Users are the only real source we have! |
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| 18:03 | <plaur> | yes, if it's not something one of their big customers have problems with... the chances of a RH fix are low, even with a provided patch |
| 18:04 | <plaur> | thanks |
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| 18:12 | <debacle> | A colleague believes their computer (buster) is infected with a malware, maybe "Mirai". They removed the disk and we want to check it for any signs malware or rootkit. Which software in Debian would detect e.g. Mirai? TIA! |
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| 18:15 | <sarnold> | debacle: *maybe* clamav |
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| 18:15 | <lavamind> | theres also rkhunter and chkrootkit |
| 18:16 | <sarnold> | it's been ages since I've looked at either of those but I don't think I'd want to run them in on untrusted data |
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| 18:17 | <lavamind> | well when suspecting some malware booting from a live system, eg. iso is usually safer |
| 18:18 | <sarnold> | yeah, if you're going to reinstall from backups anyway.. |
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| 18:27 | <debacle> | Thanks for the hints! We will setup the system from scratch anyway. There was no relevant data on them to backup. But I will certainly use a live system for checking. Any recommendation for a ready-to-use live system which includes all the tools? |
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| 18:32 | <lavamind> | debacle: Grml is a good choice imo, if anything is missing you can apt update && apt install foo |
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| 18:37 | <spawacz> | is there any way to search the orphaned packages by language? |
| 18:37 | <debacle> | lavamind Since years I was looking for an excuse to try grml, now I have it. Thnx! |
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| 20:21 | <MadCamel> | I've updated a few machines to bullseye for testing. Every one of them waits 5ish minutes on boot for "Raise network interfaces" to complete. I'm using ifupdown and have net.ifnames=0 on the kernel commandline. Nothing else weird. Not finding anything similar in the bugtracker. Any hints/tips? |
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| 20:22 | <sney> | I haven't seen that one either but I'm also not using net.ifnames=0 anywhere. maybe there's a race condition? you could try implementing your interface scheme with systemd link files instead, to test |
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| 20:26 | <MadCamel> | worth a shot, thanks |
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| 20:26 | <sarnold> | that sounds a little bit like systemd services have been configured to wait for network-online.target before starting. I think these are logged, if it happens, do you see anything in your journalctl output during boot that looks related? |
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| 20:31 | <somiaj> | systemd-anaylize blame (or critical-chain) could also help identify which services are waiting for that. |
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| 20:32 | <ASDX> | is there a way to pin versions with d-i when using "extra_packages" to install at the end of a preseed file? |
| 20:32 | <MadCamel> | yeah systemd-analyze blame says networking.service is taking 5 minutes. ifup is failing after a 5 minute timeout by the looks of the logs: http://paste.debian.net/1199702/ |
| 20:33 | <sney> | on that topic, is there a systemd-analyze analogue for shutdown? I've noticed 2 of my bullseye systems taking extra time prior to reboot |
| 20:34 | <somiaj> | ifup: failed to bring up eth0 -- might want to see why it is failing. |
| 20:35 | <MadCamel> | timeout and I have no idea what it's waiting for :) |
| 20:35 | <somiaj> | Is your network even up after boot, at least according to that it shoulnd't be (or maybe somthing in ifup is timing out but not the raising of the itnerface) |
| 20:35 | <MadCamel> | yeah it's up and configured correctly |
| 20:35 | <somiaj> | MadCamel: have you tried to run 'ifup eth0' from a terminal to see what it is doing (maybe bring your interface down first, ifdown --force eth0) |
| 20:37 | <somiaj> | sney: at least peristant journal is now default in buslleye, so you could look at the previous boots logs. |
| 20:37 | <somiaj> | sney: though I'm unsure if it is added in an upgrade (haven't tested that) |
| 20:37 | <sney> | somiaj: oh, I turned that on a while ago. good point |
| 20:38 | <MadCamel> | hm. ifup works fine in a terminal. just not at boot time |
| 20:39 | <somiaj> | care to share your interfaces file? |
| 20:42 | <MadCamel> | sure. http://paste.debian.net/1199706/ |
| 20:42 | <MadCamel> | hm I wonder if resolvconf is being weird |
| 20:43 | <MadCamel> | ah not installed nm |
| 20:43 | <somiaj> | why do you have eth0 twice in your allow-hotplug line? |
| 20:43 | <somiaj> | also do you have resolvconf installed? |
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| 20:43 | <somiaj> | you could comment out the dns- lines but doubt they are the issue |
| 20:44 | <MadCamel> | that's a typo actually, not in the original |
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| 20:48 | <somiaj> | you dno't have any other tool trying to manage your network? |
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| 20:49 | <MadCamel> | nope |
| 20:49 | <somiaj> | unsure here then. |
| 20:50 | <MadCamel> | Thanks for the sanity check. I think I'll try running ifup under strace via systemd on boot and see if there's any clue what it could be waiting for. |
| 20:55 | <MadCamel> | Oh jeez. having networking.service run "strace -s 1024 -o /var/tmp/ifup.strace /sbin/ifup ..." makes the issue go away. Heisenbug! |
| 20:55 | <sarnold> | figures.. |
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| 21:38 | <qrpnxz> | is there any other big distro that has something like the debian policy manual? |
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| 21:49 | <qrpnxz> | Gerowen, the root of the archive is your working directory |
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| 21:56 | <Gerowen> | qrpnxz: OK so if I'm not currently in the directory with the file or folder I'm compressing then it'll just include empty copies of everything between the target folder and root. |
| 21:56 | <Gerowen> | Thanks, got it working. |
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| 22:02 | <somiaj> | qrpnxz: were you not able to find one, a quick google search seems to suggest that they split this policy info up a bit. I know debian tries to be really clear and open about this though, so it is nice to have a cenertalized policy manual. |
| 22:03 | <qrpnxz> | that who split? |
| 22:03 | <qrpnxz> | somiaj |
| 22:04 | <somiaj> | well I found a ubuntu policy page about various policies, but not a single policy manual for instance |
| 22:04 | <somiaj> | https://ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies -- though seems a lot of places see policy as mearly a legal thing and not a standards for packages/etc thing. |
| 22:05 | <somiaj> | though might be best to join the channel of said big distros and ask them if they have anything similar (maybe it isn't called policy but something else) |
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| 23:07 | <hanyuwei70> | Hi |
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| 23:08 | <hanyuwei70> | my monitor crashed with /build/ceph-12.2.11+dfsg1.2/src/mds/FSMap.cc: 777: FAILED assert(fs->mds_map.damaged.count(j.second.rank) == 0) |
| 23:08 | <hanyuwei70> | anyone have any idea? |
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| 23:15 | <somiaj> | did googling that error give you any hits? |
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| 23:49 | <lhvf> | Hello to Everyone! Has yet anyone found an error from the same component (mds), and could help him to debug or send an bug error to CEPH Project Tracker? I don't have any knowledges to proper give a suggestion that could orient this user, and never utilized this Project. |
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| 23:56 | <lhvf> | hanyuwei70: Example of Report similar (in component) to yours at CEPH(FS) Bug Tracker : < https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/38452 > ( Component(FS): MDS ). I could suggest to you to open a Bug Report from this Tracker. Debian Project is at least related to this issue/problem (*dfsg → is involved here) |
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