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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-06-19

---Logopened Sat Jun 19 00:00:00 2021
---Daychanged Sat Jun 19 2021
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00:08<qman>catern: Ubuntu's PPA system is pretty much what you describe
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00:14<catern>qman: AFAIK a PPA is fairly different - each package is in its own repo, which you have to individually opt-in to, rather than a single repo with many packages uploaded by many different maintainers (like registry-style). among other things, that makes the dependency model kind of different
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00:15<Unit193>qman: He's thinking more like Aur.
00:18<Unit193>catern: There's the standard trust issues, I'd say. But...
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04:13<rudi_s>SallyAhaj: You have to configure it manually in the installer.
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04:15<SallyAhaj>rudi_s, I have tried "graphical installer" and "install" but I coun't find any options to do so
04:16<SallyAhaj>Do you I have to choose advance installer?
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04:22<rudi_s>SallyAhaj: I'm not sure, I've never used the non-advanced installer. But in the partition menu you should get an entry "manually partition" (or similar).
04:22<rudi_s>Give the advanced installer a try. It should be the same with a few extra questions you can mostly just skip.
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04:28<SallyAhaj>Okay, I'll try that again, by the way it's a very long and difficult proccess especially if I compare it with Fedora, as I used to use fedora for a long time. Thank you rudi_s
04:28<rudi_s>np
04:29<rudi_s>The installation process is a bit long but also flexible.
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05:09<Guest2726>Is Debian only for a desktop computer?
05:09<koollman>Guest2726: no
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05:09<Guest2726>For example?
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05:10<ratrace>for example what? "it's not only for a desktop" means "it's also for other roles". "it's for servers". "it's for IOT". it's a generic GNU/Linux distribution.
05:10<petn-randall>Guest2726: Most Debian machines are probably servers. And it runs on laptops, embedded devices, etc.
05:11<koollman>Guest2726: servers, vm, laptops, embedded computers, ...
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05:15<Guest2726>Good to know
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05:17<ratrace>heh just realized that debian.org front page is missing a "What is Debian" link or page. assumes the visitors knows _what_ it is, and offers a _why_ :: https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian
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05:40<whistle>manly poppers
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05:46<cc>on a fully up-to-date stable (buster), when I do: "nft export" I get: "Error: syntax error, unexpected newline, expecting ruleset or xml or json or vm"
05:47<cc>and then I try: "nft export json" and I get: "Error: this output type is not supported"
05:47<cc>same for "nft export xml"
05:47<cc>what is exactly going on here?
05:47<richard_h>this probably isn't debian specific, but when I use a calculator (currently gnome-calculator, but I'm sure I've seen it with others), and I enter numbers by mouse clicks, I often seem to lose clicks. Is this a common experience?
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05:48<richard_h>my mouse clicking isn't normally particularly inaccurate. I wondered if I was dragging slightly, but doing so deliberately doesn't seem to make it worse
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05:50<richard_h>calcoo does it too
05:51<richard_h>speed makes it worse. But I play several games that involve clicking faster.
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05:54<petn-randall>richard_h: I must say I've never used the mouse for galculator, always the numblock.
05:55<ratrace>richard_h: gnome shell is javascripted consumer of GPU performance. make sure you have full hardware support, because if it's software emulating, the lags might do that
05:55<richard_h>yes, that seems reliable. But I'm not familiar with it, so need to look down at the keyboard
05:55<richard_h>ratrace: I'm not using gnome, but xfce4 - is that still relevant?
05:56<ratrace>which also begs the question: is it a wayland session, or xorg? there's known gnome+wayland lags wrt input
05:56<ratrace>oh... I assumed.... from gnome-calculator.
05:57<ratrace>(oh hey, 10.10 update today!)
05:57<richard_h>yeah, no - gnome apps seem usually to work ok in xfce, and I don't think there's a native xfce calculator (if 'native xfce' is meaningful)
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05:58<richard_h>calcoo uses gtk+, but not full gnome stuff afaik
05:58<richard_h>(I only just installed it for testing)
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06:00<richard_h>kcalc does it too, and I'm fairly sure that doesn't have much to do with gnome :-)
06:01<richard_h>it seems weird that it's just caclulators, and seems to be all of them ...
06:02<richard_h>in terms of hardware performance, this machine is fairly ancient, being an AMD Phenom II X4, with 8G RAM - but mostly gets by ok
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06:02<ratrace>richard_h: is there any difference if you enable or disable the xfce compositor?
06:02<ratrace>also, which gpu is in it?
06:02<richard_h>I've never investigated compositors ...
06:03<ratrace>there's a checkbox somewhere in xfce settings applet
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06:03<richard_h>RV730 XT [Radeon HD 4670]
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06:09<richard_h>ratrace: found "use_compositing" and turned it on ... no difference to calculator.
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06:10<ratrace>richard_h: found where?
06:10<ratrace>the xfce compositing can be en/dis/abled via settings apple
06:10<ratrace>*T
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06:12<richard_h>ratrace: good question. Possibly not the normal place ... Main menu -> Settings -> Settings Editor, xfwm4, use_compositing
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06:14<ratrace>I suppose that does the same thing. according to screenshots I'm finding, the UI is under "Window Manager Tweaks". it's been a while since I last used xfce, but back then, disabling compositor was usually the solution for various glitches :)
06:15<richard_h>just found it there; the screens blink in the same way when I enable it there, so I assume it's doing the same thing, and the problem persists
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06:16<richard_h>should also mention that barrier is running, though my laptop wasn't running (starting it now, to test there)
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06:19<richard_h>laptop via barrier does the same thing - it's stretch (buster on desktop), and Core i5 (Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6200U CPU @ 2.30GHz) with Intel HD Graphics 520
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06:20<richard_h>so quite a different system (HP ProBook 430 G3)
06:20<richard_h>... but still xfce4
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06:20<richard_h>this is not a new thing; I've seen it as long as I can remember, but haven't bothered to do anything about it, other than being careful with my calculations :-)
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06:23<ratrace>richard_h: is there any other _windowed_ application where you need to precision click? though I assume just using different calcs, from different toolkits (gtk and qt), counts as that, and it's not (of course) about calcs at all
06:24<ratrace>it's about click precision lag in windowed applications. what about browsers? clicking links kinda is similar
06:24<richard_h>well, as I say, I play a few games, mostly from the sgt-games collection
06:24<ratrace>games aren't windowed applications
06:24<richard_h>?
06:24<ratrace>fullscreen behavior is different
06:24<richard_h>in what sense?
06:24<richard_h>not fullscreen games
06:24<ratrace>the compositor is out of the question, different codepaths are used
06:25<richard_h>I'm not talking about shooters and the like; they're more like puzzles
06:25<ratrace>well even opengl context in-window canvases could be different from UIs rendered via gtk or qt
06:25<richard_h>sorry, sgt-puzzles is the package
06:26<ratrace>I mean ... why would calculators be any special, even more so across different toolkits?
06:26<richard_h>that's what puzzles me :-)
06:26<ratrace>the common denominator is precision clicking in gtk/qt UI applications
06:26<ratrace>google has web-based caclulator. what about that, in a browser?
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06:26<richard_h>link?
06:27<ratrace>https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=google+calculator
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06:27<richard_h>same problem
06:27<richard_h>interesting, thanks
06:28<ratrace>something something libinput vs evdev maybe?
06:28<richard_h>sgt-puzzles seems to use gtk, fwiw
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06:30<richard_h>aptitude search evdev only finds libevdev2 installed
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06:33<richard_h>kcalc seems to depend (indirectly) on libevdev2
06:35<richard_h>hmm - via libqt5gui5, I think, which depends on both libinput10 and libevdev2, so I'm not sure that helps
06:37<richard_h>I was wondering if I'm clicking on the next button within the double-click interval, but I'm not sure why that would make a difference
06:37<richard_h>I'm not sure what other software has lots of buttons like a calculator ...
06:38<richard_h>at least, ones that are used consecutively rather than one at a time
06:38<ratrace>well a spreadsheet has lots of independently clickable UI areas, each cell is one
06:38<richard_h>true
06:39<ratrace>though that might be handled as a _single_ UI component then just an offset calculated in the onClick handler. I don' tknow how they work internally
06:39<richard_h>clicking all over a spreadsheet (with less care, since there's no gaps between 'buttons') quite fast doesn't seem to lose any
06:40<richard_h>oh, I should also mention though, that using a caclulator, I can see the buttons responding to the clicks. It's just the numbers don't show up.
06:40<richard_h>at least I think I can - it would be easier/better to have someone looking over my shoulder, but that's not an option right now
06:41<richard_h>sorry, that last point is probably quite significant :-)
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06:43<richard_h>I wonder if I can video it ...
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06:45<ratrace>I see that behaviour in android all the time. I Tap something, the UI element clearly registers because it animates or changes in a way to feedback the tap, but nothing happens
06:46<richard_h>yes - I mostly see that in the f-droid app
06:46<richard_h>but then, I think some of my mis-taps are due to other parts of my hand being close to the edge of the screen
06:46<ratrace>it's all terrible software. I prefer my i3-wm and sway, and the ten-fingered UI :)
06:47<ratrace>I mean I can't imagine the inefficiency of stabbing the UI with one finger, while having the other 9 do nothing.
06:47<richard_h>it's handy when only one thumb is available, while holding the phone :-)
06:47<ratrace>I use python shell for calculator like a good lass. that never fails me :)
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06:54<richard_h>https://nc.richardhector.co.nz/s/y888gexbFDJeHxp
06:54<richard_h>4qzin6EW
06:55*richard_h hopes that's reasonably safe ...
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07:13<richard_h>well that's showing a few more hits in my logs than I was expecting :-)
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07:15<george3221>Hello, I'm using Evolution in Debian Stable set up to access Apple iCloud account. This has recently stopped working and it seems to be a change at Apple's end. This has been patched in Fedora and Ubuntu. Are the developers aware of this, and can we expect a fix? It seems it is related to evolution-data-server package.
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07:15<george3221>Details here: https://elementaryos.stackexchange.com/questions/27828/requesting-a-patch-for-evolution-to-access-icloud-mail
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07:16<george3221>PS. Geary and Thunderbird are working fine with same account.
07:16<richard_h>oh - from a web-based irc client (thelounge). Maybe that shows it automatically?
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09:02<NightFlyer>hi o/
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09:02<NightFlyer>does anyone know when we can expect the release of stable debian bullseye?
09:03<ratrace>Soon(tm)
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09:04<NightFlyer>:D lol
09:04<nevivurn>dpkg, bullseye
09:04<dpkg>The release following Debian 10 "Buster" is codenamed "Bullseye" (Woody's horse in Toy Story 2) and will be Debian 11. Tentative release date: 2021-07-31. Good bug reports on packages and upgrades are greatly appreciated! https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBullseye . Bullseye is Debian turned up to 11!
09:04<nevivurn>says 07-31, but who knows at this point?
09:04<NightFlyer>ohh thats close tho
09:05<ratrace>you can look at RC bug count and make forecast extrapolations out of that
09:05<NightFlyer>yeah
09:05<ratrace>compare the graph absolute value and trend angle to buster. looks like late august or maybe september.
09:05<ratrace>and that's me who placed a bet at jun 13th and, obviously, lost.
09:06<NightFlyer>i hope its not years away tho
09:07<ratrace>might be. https://xkcd.com/605/ :)
09:07<omegatron>we all do
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09:12<nevivurn>Curious, I remember reading some release team mail saying this freeze could be record-time short, are historical freeze periods recorded anywhere?
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09:14<tia3100>https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases
09:16<nevivurn>Oh, thanks
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09:36<jim>is there documentation on preseeding files?
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09:40<Talkless>jim: I've used example file https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/example-preseed.txt
09:44<jim>thanks :)
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10:18<otisolsen70>When I try to start an X program when ssh'ed with ssh -CY to my machine, then I get this error: "Gtk-WARNING **: 16:17:36.776: cannot open display:" I have tried running "xhost +" but that gives error: 'xhost: unable to open display ""' Do I need to install some X11 packages or something on the server for this to wkr? I already have "X11Forwarding yes" in sshd_config.
10:19<otisolsen70>I tried installing x11-xserver-utils but made no difference
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10:21<themill>istr you need the 'xauth' package installed at both ends
10:22<otisolsen70>themill, that fixed it. thanks
10:23<richard_h>using xauth +?
10:23<richard_h>I haven't had to use that for years, and even then, it was considered horribly insecure
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10:24<bremner>it should not be needed when ssh forwarding. It looks like you need to set DISPLAY properly
10:24<bremner>which ssh should do
10:25<richard_h>also, given xorg depends on xauth, I guess you're using Wayland
10:25<raven523>is xauth installed on the server side?
10:26<bremner>oh wayland. Well that's another kettle of fish. no experience there.
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10:26<richard_h>nor me :-)
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10:26<raven523>I would expect that it would work if you were running xwayland
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10:29<bremner>otisolsen70: does it work with ssh -X ? I get DISPLAY set to "localhost:10.0" in that case
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10:35<richard_h>bremner: seems like -X and -Y usually do the same thing
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10:35<richard_h>but I suspect otisolsen70 is no longer watching, having got it working :-)
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10:36<bremner>fsvo "working"
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10:36<otisolsen70>bremner, I am not sure about -X as I was told -X was unsafe and to use -Y instead I avoid -X. But it is working now
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10:37<richard_h>otisolsen70: I think it's the other way round. -X is a little more safe, but usually it doesn't make any difference (due to default config)
10:38<richard_h>and the extra safety doesn't seem to get you much anyway, from what I'm reading
10:40<otisolsen70>richard_h, ok. I was misinformed then.
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10:41<otisolsen70>richard_h, man page says: "-Y Enables trusted X11 forwarding. Trusted X11 forwardings are not subjected to the X11 SECURITY extension controls.
10:41<otisolsen70>" I am not sure what those sec extensions are..
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10:42<richard_h>but also, from further reading, I'm not sure what "xauth +" does, if anything. I was thinking of "xhost +", which is the dangerous one.
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10:42<otisolsen70>richard_h, does it mean that if I do ssh -Y to a server, then that SERVER can do keylogging on the client?
10:42<otisolsen70>richard_h, if the server was running a malicious X server?
10:42<richard_h>Neither am I, entirely. My reading is that -Y will turn off the security extenstions, but it doesn't do anything unless you've changed the config to allow it.
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10:43<richard_h>remember first that the X server is on your local machine - it's the one with the display. The client is the program you're running, whether locally or remotely
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10:44<richard_h>and my understanding is that if you can't trust the machine where the client is (ie the one you're sshing to) - eg if someone else has root on it - then they can get access to your X server.
10:45<richard_h>so don't ssh with either -X or -Y to a machine you don't trust.
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10:45<richard_h>I use ssh -X to my laptop, which is fine because it's also my personal machine. Unless someone's broken in to it ...
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11:33<fang>pinyin
11:33<bremner>!zh
11:33<dpkg>如果您想要以中文得到 Debian 相關的協助,請加入 irc.debian.org 或 irc.oftc.net 上的 #dot 頻道,連線與加入頻道的方法請參閱 IRC 程式之相關說明,或於網路上搜尋。謝謝您的合作!- debian-chinese-big5@lists.debian.org/debian-chinese-gb@lists.debian.org
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12:50<toafan>I installed a new graphics card in my system, [Radeon HD 7750/8740 / R7 250E], replacing a previous pair of AMD cards. The new card was autodetected and autoconfigured, but this did not detect that there are multiple outputs on the card. I've rebooted, but xrandr still only shows one output. My goal (and the reason for the new card replacing the old cards) is to get a multiple-monitor setup working. I suspect I need to do something
12:50<toafan>with drivers to enable X to detect the second output, but have no idea what.
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12:51<sney>!amdgpu firmware
12:51<dpkg>Binary-only firmware for the amdgpu and radeon <DRM> drivers is packaged for Debian as firmware-amd-graphics. Without this package installed, poor 2D/3D performance and/or missing video features are commonly experienced. To install, ask me about <non-free sources>, then install firmware-amd-graphics.
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12:51<sney>maybe? but if you already had amd cards you might already have this
12:52<sney>do you have displays connected to your other outputs?
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12:52<toafan>aptitude says "libdrm-amdgpu1" and "xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu" are already installed. Possibly they need to be reconfigured.
12:53<sney>do you have the firmware package mentioned above?
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12:53<sney>it is very unusual to have to reconfigure xorg drivers to support something normal like multiple inputs.
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12:53<sney>er, outputs. you know.
12:54<toafan>I have two monitors connected (via DVI-to-HDMI adapters). They're both working currently, they're just mirrored.
12:54<toafan>That's a propritary firmware? I'll have to try installing it and rebooting, then.
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12:56<toafan>(ETA on that ~1hr due to a currently running install.)
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12:57<sney>right, try that first, and check if you have any leftover configs from your other gpus that might be interfering with the new device. e.g. in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or xorg.conf.d
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13:13<toafan>I've never manually configured X, and I don't see either of those, so that shouldn't be it.
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13:15<toafan>Okay, new install complete, time for reboot. BRB.
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13:16<vv221>(famous last words…)
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13:19<toafan>And, bang. That solved my graphics card problem. Now I gotta re-set-up my KDE for multiple monitors, but that's easy by comparison.
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14:58<Parodper>Is there any way to see when a version of a package entered stable?
14:59<sney>yep, tracker.debian.org/packagename will show you the upload/migration dates
14:59<sney>many packages migrate to testing, and are still there when testing becomes stable
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15:00<Parodper>thanks
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15:15<tri>hello
15:15<sney>hi
15:16<tri>can you help me ?
15:16<sney>do you need help with debian?
15:16<tri>yes
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15:17<sney>then ask your question, with details, and I or someone else here can probably help you.
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15:17<tri>do you understand about vpn server?
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15:18<sney>lots of people use vpns and can troubleshoot them.
15:18<sney>ask your question, with details ...
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15:18<tri>I can't enter my vpn server config, does anyone know, how to enter the opvpn config?
15:19<sney>pleas
15:19<sney>!your screen
15:19<dpkg>Your screen is in front of your face. #debian cannot see it. Please give as many details as you can about the problem. It wastes our time and yours when we have to guess what is on your screen. See <context>, <what>
15:20<tri>how do i insert screen ?
15:20<sney>!paste
15:20<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>.
15:20<tri>Sorry, my English is bad
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15:21<sney>don't assume that we know what is happening. describe your whole problem, tell us what debian version you are using, tell us what you tried and what happened.
15:21<sney>use paste or screenshots if that helps.
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15:23<tri>https://imgur.com/vLQEUgr
15:23*sney will wait for the rest of the information
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15:26<tri>okey, thanks
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15:27<sney>!indonesian
15:27<dpkg>Bantuan Pengguna Debian, hubungi debian-user-indonesian@lists.debian.org
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15:27<Sqrt{not}>tri, is there a user with username "user" ? maybe you should write: /home/tri/SG.opvn
15:29<tri>oh ok i will try
15:30<tri>I just tried, and failed again
15:31<Sqrt{not}>show us
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15:34<tri>https://imgur.com/Zw1XrRI
15:34<sney>are you sure the SG.ovpn file exists in your home directory?
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15:36<tri>https://imgur.com/PqIXq3y
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15:38<sney>what are the contents of the file?
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15:39<tri>the content is a server from singapore, which i will use
15:40<sney>you downloaded the file from your vpn provider?
15:40<sney>are you sure it downloaded correctly? open it in a text editor, it should be similar to this, https://raw.githubusercontent.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/master/sample/sample-config-files/client.conf
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15:41<sney>if you see html, then the download didn't work right.
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15:42<jmcnaught>tri: if you are already using network-manager then you may find the network-manager-openvpn-gnome package useful, as it provides a graphical user interface for connecting to the VPN. You can import an .ovpn file in the GUI.
15:45<tri>Thank you very much for everyone who has helped, after I re-downloaded everything, then everything went normally, I'm very happy
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15:47<tri>https://imgur.com/undefined
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15:48<Sqrt{not}>tri, that last one is "undefined"
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15:49<tri>yes sir
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15:51<Sqrt{not}>tri, no -- nothing -- empty -- ???
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17:53<msg76>msg75: Debian installed yet?
17:54<msg75>msg76: iso to usb all done
17:54<msg76>msg75: see you there!
17:54<msg75>msg76: l8r
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20:31<relay241>Is experimental going to get xwayland 21.1 ?
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20:36<tia3100>If it isn't skipped, then yes
20:36<tia3100>eventually
20:38<bremner>relay241: for sid / experimental support, #debian-next is better
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21:01<FoolishOwl>I'm installing Debian on a new laptop, with an SSD and no HDD. The installer recommends a 1 GB swap partition.
21:02<bremner>if you have >= 8G of RAM, that is probably OK
21:03<FoolishOwl>I'm trying to decide whether to use a larger swap partition for hibernation. I've never hibernated a laptop, mostly because I'm used to older ones. Is it worth doing?
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21:06<jmcnaught>Suspend is better than hibernate I think, and otherwise Debian boots pretty quickly. Hibernate might also be broken with Secure Boot if you wanted to use that.
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21:07<bremner>not sure there's much point in hibernation for most people; cold boot is probably almost as fast, and much more reliable
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21:08<pert>Yes, hibernation does not work when in lockdown mode, as is the case by default with Secure Boot
21:08<FoolishOwl>Yeah, that's a point. It's Linux on an SSD. I was going to leave off secure boot, as I gather it's not happy with custom kernel modules.
21:09<FoolishOwl>I mean, Linux on an SSD should boot very fast.
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21:10<pert>I sometimes find hibernation convenient if I have many things going on I'd prefer not to close. I say go for it, as long as you have the disk space to spare for the extra swap there's really no consequence
21:11<pert>And if you change your mind later, it may be a pain to make your swap bigger post-installation
21:11<tia3100>If you want hibernation you gonna need to have more swap then ram
21:11<tia3100>Heared recomendations of 20% more, but I am not sure
21:12<FoolishOwl>Decided to go without hibernation. But thanks for the discussion.
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21:14<don>Hello I am trying to load the xsnane hplip printer driver for the scanner on my Buster 10.3 machine. I keep getting failures with t he same error. canberra-gtk-module is missing. I cant locate the file so I could install it. Does anyone know where to get that module or file?
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21:17<pert>Are you using APT/the package manager to install HPLIP? If you've instead downloaded it from their website and are trying to install that, that's not such a good idea
21:17<don>yes tried to do that several times and updated also
21:18<pert>Depending on what specific application you're trying to run, you might need libcanberra-gtk-module or libcanberra-gtk3-module
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21:18<don>I am trying to do their website one now
21:19<pert>You shouldn't do that if you don't have to; you'll get better support using the Debian-packaged HPLIP, since that's curated by Debian Developers
21:19<don>my apt reports that it has no canberra module available
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21:19<pert>Can you paste the verbatim message? If you need to translate it to English, you can put 'LC_ALL=C' before the command (without the quotes)
21:19<don>I started by trying to install the xsane program
21:20<don>was that wrong
21:20<pert>No, that's alright, but if you're interested in scanning you don't necessarily need HPLIP. Scanning is taken care of by a different system called SANE.
21:21<don>Ok I will check if I h ave sane installed now
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21:22<pert>Can you run the command 'scanimage -L' in a terminal and paste the output? It might tell us whether SANE knows how to scan.
21:23<don>I do have SANE installed but no privileged to see it
21:23<don>Ok will do
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21:27<don>says no scanner found and run sane-find-scanner so did that
21:28<don>fouond usb scanner which is my hp color laser printer\
21:29<don>at libusb:002:002
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21:30<don>also to read backend man page what is that manpage
21:30<pert>As root (or by putting sudo before the command), run 'adduser YOURUSERNAME plugdev' and 'adduser YOURUSERNAME scanner', and restart. That may help give you privileges to use the scanner
21:30<don>scanimage -L
21:31<don>ran scanimage again and it did not find a scanner this time either.
21:32<don>found man page
21:33<pert>If your printer an all-in-one machine? You may want to install libsane-hpaio as well
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21:36<sney>make sure you have the latest firmware update for your mfp, those improve linux compatibility
21:36<don>both commands say command not found
21:37<sney>adduser commands are done as root
21:37<don>yes it is all in one Color LaserJet Pro MFP M182nw is the model name
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21:38<don>I am being root now
21:38<sney>!buster su
21:38<dpkg>In buster, su no longer overrides PATH by default, requiring that you use "su -" or "su -l" for login shells (which is not really a new thing at all...). See https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes for details.
21:39<don>I just do su root and password and it changes to root exit to quit
21:40<don>do you have to change to the other way now?
21:40<sney>right, and if you forget the - or the -l, root will not have adduser in path
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21:43<don>!buster does not work
21:43<don>here
21:43<sney>you have to read the message from dpkg
21:43<sney>on this screen
21:43<don>need 5 min bright back
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21:50<don>back
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21:57<Sqrt{not}>don, have you succeeded with "su -" and the adduser commands now?
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21:57<don>no
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21:58<Sqrt{not}>that would be a good place to start
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22:02<don> Ok using su -l to get to root it says I am already member of both items
22:02<don>That was new to me su -l
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22:03<Sqrt{not}>like dpkg was saying, that way you get the correct PATH set, so you can access the root-only commands in /sbin
22:04<don>Now i should run scanimage -l
22:06<don>no luck there
22:07<don>sane-find-scanner finds the printer scanner at libusb:002:002 again
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22:08<Sqrt{not}>what is the output of 'scanimage -L'
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22:13<don>no scanner identified use sane find tool
22:14<don>sane-find-scanner finds the scanner printer
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22:17<don>I just did a reload of my sysem to this version 10.3 which I used for while t hen changed to 10.7. I had a keymap file failure and reloaded the 10.3 so I would not hav eto download the 10.7 again
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22:18<don>I see 10.9 is out now should I go ahead and upgrade to that to clear up some of these problems
22:18<Sqrt{not}>don, you don't have to download 10.7 as a new version. you should use the apt tools to upgrade your system.
22:19<Sqrt{not}>yes, but you should just be able to do 'apt update' and then do 'apt upgrade'
22:19<don>will it upgrade to the 10.9 also
22:19<Sqrt{not}>it will actually upgrade you to 10.10 now, i think, that was just released today
22:20<themill>it was, yes.
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22:20<don>I wonder if sane will recognize my printer acanner
22:20<don>does that take long to do
22:21<Sqrt{not}>don, if you have reloaded a fresh 10.3, please do not install files from HP website. debian should have enough in its own repository to make your scanner work
22:22<don>ok I did already so how to remove all of them before I do the upgrade
22:22<don>could I just do the apt-get remove hplip to get them all
22:23<Sqrt{not}>did you install them with apt-get ?
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22:23<don>no the hp file t hat I downloaded had instructions to do it their way.
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22:24<Sqrt{not}>I don't know then.
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22:25<themill>(topicdiff: added 10.10 and bullseye info)
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22:26<don>It was named hplip-3.21.4.run and i had to do an sh hplip-3.21.4.run to install it aand it failed because of missing files
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22:26<don>I can try to do a remove and see what happens
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22:30<quadrat>isn't still /msg dpkg 10.9 wrong?
22:31<Sqrt{not}>don, I will be away now for some time, but others here know more than I do about scanning, and can answer your questions
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22:33<themill>quadrat: bah, I thought I just fixed that
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22:34<don>apt-get says hplip is not installed so I will do the upgrade
22:34<don>I will come back when finished thanks for the help
22:35<don>apt-get update
22:35<don>oops wrong place
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22:50<don>I am back... strange response to apt-get dist-upgrade only took a few seconds
22:50<don>what is the command to see whet the current version actually is
22:51<milkt>cat /etc/debian_version
22:52<don>It says 10.10 anazing
22:53<themill>!point release
22:53<dpkg>Point releases are updates to <stable> and <oldstable>, fixing security and grave bug fixes. If you track security updates regularly (as you should!) there will often be no updates for you in the point release. You can upgrade to the latest point release with "apt update && apt full-upgrade". Ask me about <9.13>, <10.10>. https://release.debian.org/ for a schedule
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22:54<don>I just did a reload from dvd of 10.3 so I expected to find 10.3
22:54<don>that is cool I think
22:54<quadrat>when you upgrade, it gets automatically updated to 10.10
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22:55<don>Thanks
22:55<don>I have been trying to get my printer scanner to scan
22:56<don>so I will start over
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22:58<themill>it's highly unlikely that there are any differences in any 10.x release to printer/scanner support
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22:59<don>scanimage -L says no scanner found
22:59<quadrat>about which scanner are we talking about?
22:59<don>however sane-find-scanner finds my printer and gives address as libusb:002:002
23:00<don>HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M182nw which is an all in one unit
23:02<don>using Gnome Clasic reports printer but no scanner
23:03<don>family called need 30 minits or so
23:03<don>thanks
23:04<quadrat>don you would need to install the hplip version from backports, as the minimum is 3.19. buster has 3.18, backports has 3.20
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23:08<coc0nut>whats the simplest way to change hostname? i mean you change hostname and also the hosts file. why not both in one command? and is there a command to change a word in a textfile?
23:09<coc0nut>abit tired now, sry :p but id like to know
23:11<oemb1905>sudo hostname <name>
23:11<oemb1905>done
23:12<coc0nut>hm i dont think it works, it resets at boot
23:12<matthias>sudo hostnamectl set-hostname <name>
23:12<oemb1905>no, sudo hostname <name> changes /etc/hostname - you also need to change /etc/hosts though
23:13<matthias>with systemd I'd use hostnamectl...
23:13<coc0nut>i also found the command "exec su -l $USER" updates group assignments, does this update more ? i found that running that command showed the new hostname in cli, not sure if thats good enough for a new hostname. might need a re link to the network
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23:16<matthias>coc0nut: "su -l" executes a shell under the user this will update the groups incidentally (and also the displayed hostname if you changed that). It would be more natural to use "newgrp" to update the effective group ids.
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23:16<coc0nut>thx!
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23:18<matthias>yw
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