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05:18 | <gru> | i had a working bcache ssd&hdd setup. Then I installed a new system. how do i start the bcache system again without loosing data? |
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05:30 | <ratrace> | gru: your question is missing more context and detail |
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05:31 | <gru> | @ratrace: there is data on the hdd that i dont want to loose |
05:31 | <gru> | but there is no /dev/bcache0 device any more |
05:32 | <jhutchins> | gru: Backups |
05:32 | <gru> | only the cache ssd (sdb5) and the hdd (sda) |
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05:33 | <ratrace> | gru: so the "[installed] new system" is a separate machine ? you want to plug in the disks from the old machine into the new machine? |
05:33 | <gru> | ratrace, yes |
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05:35 | <ratrace> | gru: you need to install and setup bcache userland and configs, for it to start the layers on boot. I forgot all the deets, it's been a few years since I used bcache |
05:36 | <ratrace> | and if you installed it (bcache-tools; NOTE: bcache != bcacheFS ), and the devices don't appear on boot, is the module loaded? |
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05:40 | <gru> | its loaded.. thanks for the help i will google a bit more |
05:40 | <gru> | i will report back how i resolved it ;) |
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05:43 | <gru> | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/387501/getting-files-off-bcache-disk-from-different-computer |
05:43 | <gru> | this works for mounting the backing device.. now i just need to setup the bcache again |
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08:03 | <Guest1655> | What is the name of the screensaver included when installing Debian with Plasma? |
08:04 | <Guest1655> | I'm having a problem, if I lock the screen then there's no password prompt, no way to log back in, and I have to restart the machine each time |
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08:05 | <amacater> | kscreensaver, possibly? |
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08:06 | <Guest1655> | I thought so too, but I am not sure how to verify it. Putting it in terminal returns "command not found", and there's no systemd process under that name either |
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08:07 | <ansgar> | Guest1655: It might just be the login manager handling screen locking as well these days. |
08:08 | <ansgar> | Guest1655: `loginctl unlock-sessions` or `loginctl unlock-session [id]` from a text console login should also unlock the screen; `[id]` can be found with just running `loginctl` |
08:09 | <Guest1655> | In that case, how do I configure SDDM's locking? The "Screen Locking" part of System Settings is quite barren and doesn't help |
08:10 | <Guest1655> | Sounds like it could work, but having to go into a TTY and input a command just to unlock the screen is a temporary fix at best, not something I want to have to keep doing |
08:10 | <jm_> | plasma-desktop has Recommends: kde-config-screenlocker - is that installed? |
08:11 | <Guest1655> | Yup, "already the newest version (5.14.5-1)" |
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08:15 | <jm_> | interesting, found similar (same?) issue with some other distributions, apparently changing tty-s helped for them |
08:16 | <Guest1655> | tty-s? |
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08:20 | <jm_> | ctrl-alt-f1 then try ctrl-alt-<right cursor> until you get back to KDE screen |
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08:22 | <Guest1655> | Just tried it, it didn't work. At least loginctl unlock-session works... |
08:23 | <Fraggle2> | if ctrl-alt-<right cursor> does not work for you (like for me) try ctrl-alt-Fx with different numbers for x |
08:23 | <Guest1655> | No no, I don't mean that changing between them doesn't work |
08:24 | <Fraggle2> | ok |
08:24 | <Guest1655> | I mean that changing from graphical to text and back to graphical doesn't make any login prompt apear |
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08:26 | <jm_> | maybe try checking BTS - I tried looking briefly, but there are so many packages involved it's hard to know where to look |
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08:30 | <Guest1655> | I will take a look. If I can't find anything, I guess I'll start a thread on the User Forum |
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08:31 | <jm_> | yeah, there's also #debian-kde |
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08:32 | <amacater> | Rather than user forum, rather try the mailing list at debian-user - mail will stick around |
08:33 | <Guest1655> | I have never once used a mailing list in my life, forums are more user-friendly for me :) |
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08:33 | <quadrat> | Guest1655 the user forums are not even official, so who knows how many 'official' people lurk around |
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08:42 | * | amacater tends to lurk in the debian-user mailing list as well :) |
08:43 | <amacater> | It may also be useful to report a bug / check the Debian bug tracker to see if it's a known issue |
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09:36 | <twl> | logged into my laptop running debian unstable, and it appears that i was removed from the sudo group somehow. During debian installation i did not set a root password so i cannot run |
09:36 | <twl> | ...su or login as root |
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09:37 | <bremner> | #debian-next for unstable |
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09:43 | <ratrace> | (and this is one of several reasons I recommend always setting root password) |
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11:10 | <NoGuest17> | helo debians |
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11:11 | <bremner> | !ask |
11:11 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>. |
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11:13 | <petn-randall> | hi NoGuest17 |
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11:45 | <grobi> | hello |
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12:34 | <wheeler> | How can I list all the versions available in my apt sources for a given deb package? |
12:35 | <bahamat> | wheeler: apt-cache show <pkg> |
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12:36 | <wheeler> | Oh! That's it. I was doing apt show. Thanks, bahamat |
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12:49 | <vv221[BI]> | wheeler, if you're only interested in available versions, not the package description, you can try: apt policy <pkg> |
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13:00 | <demo> | hello everyone |
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13:22 | <luelo1510> | i just downloaded the debian ISO file that's linked on the front page at debian.org |
13:22 | <luelo1510> | where can i find a md5 checksum or something like that for integrity check? |
13:22 | <luelo1510> | the website seems a bit confusing to me |
13:22 | <sussudio> | from what i remember, the page where you downloaded it from |
13:23 | <amacater> | https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
13:24 | <amacater> | is probably a good place to start. The .iso listed on the front page doesn't have sha256sums or whatever on the same page |
13:24 | <sney> | I submitted a merge request to clear that stuff up for the debian.org homepage, still waiting for approval |
13:26 | <sussudio> | https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/MD5SUMS |
13:26 | <luelo1510> | ah right thank you |
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13:28 | <luelo1510> | now that i failed to navigate on the web page, i'm confident that i can successfully install debian :------D |
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13:28 | <amacater> | If you're worried, check with more than MD5 |
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13:29 | <vitaerk> | hi, iam wondering about version 10.10 ...when is 11 bullseye coming? |
13:29 | <NthDegree> | vitaerk, I would estimate a few weeks at most |
13:29 | <vitaerk> | ok, then ill wait for it. Thank you |
13:29 | <amacater> | !wwbr |
13:29 | <dpkg> | Now Debian "Bullseye" is the current testing branch as of 2019-07-06 and it will be released "when it's ready." Release day we're working to currently - as discussed in various mailing lists is July 31st 2021. There's a hard freeze from July 17th with only the most urgent security fixes after that date. Stuff may slip but July 31 is hoped for. |
13:30 | <vitaerk> | thank you |
13:30 | <sussudio> | i don't know why people seem to want "new things" for no good reason. i was still running woody on one of my computers when the fan died. |
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13:31 | <vitaerk> | dont touch a running system, yes. |
13:31 | <amacater> | sussudio - Maybe because more up to date / supported / not insecure? |
13:31 | <NthDegree> | sussudio, for a desktop, it's more than welcomed |
13:31 | <sussudio> | it still kept running for a few weeks until i noticed the kernel panic. |
13:31 | <amacater> | Don't touch a running system - but you can update a Debian system from one major version to another |
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13:32 | * | amacater did so on an important system only to have the RAID card fail at the same time: physical hardware failure where battery swelled and cracked card |
13:32 | <NthDegree> | ouch, that's terrible luck that |
13:32 | <vitaerk> | i updated, because my old system hard disc was full. I dont delete the data, install new debian on new ssd hard disc |
13:33 | <sussudio> | i replaced piggy's system when the disk got full and it started getting bad sectors |
13:34 | <vitaerk> | now i have problems that i never know with debian. So i hoping for debian11 release as soon as possible |
13:34 | <sussudio> | why do you think debian 11 will fix these problems |
13:34 | <vv221> | Because Debian 11 will fix all problems \o/ |
13:35 | <vv221> | (at least until Debian 12…) |
13:35 | <vitaerk> | its a hope, because i dont want try to fix 10.7 ... looking for what is the failure |
13:35 | * | sarvad has a 9 year old laptop, running buster on it and has no plans of getting off of it. |
13:36 | <vitaerk> | my only idea are too old config files in home... |
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13:37 | <amacater> | vitaerk - You could try updating 10.7 to 10.10 or just save your data to something esle then restore |
13:39 | <vitaerk> | yes i could. It is the command upgrade oder dist-upgrade? |
13:39 | <vitaerk> | apt of course |
13:39 | <sarvad> | anyone uses xfce here? What's its future? I see that 4.1.6 is included in bullseye but it's release cycle is so slow some times I wonder if it's on a dying path. |
13:40 | <amacater> | apt update ; apt upgrade |
13:40 | <NthDegree> | vitaerk, apt update && apt dist-upgrade |
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13:40 | <sussudio> | sarvad: is there anything wrong or non-functional with xfce that it needs to be updated? |
13:40 | <amacater> | NthDegree probably has it better than I do: dist-upgrade will make sure everything upgrades |
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13:41 | <vitaerk> | ok, i will try it |
13:43 | <sarvad> | sussudio: Nothing wrong. Just wondering about it's future especially when I see Gnome etc. getting frequent updates. Feel like not enough interest/not enough volunteers to work on it will result in it's eventual death - that too very soon. Hope I am wrong, as I love Xfce. |
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13:44 | <sarvad> | https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.18/roadmap - Just found this! |
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13:51 | <vv221> | sarvad, I would not worry too much about XFCE, as the most complete lightweight desktop environment I guess it will still be widely used for years. |
13:51 | <vv221> | Of course, like all such projects they are probably lacking in volunteers and other resources, so would probably be very happy for any kind of help ;) |
13:52 | <amacater> | v.XFCE |
13:52 | <vv221> | (I did not even check, *all* projects with such a scope are understaffed) |
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13:54 | <sarvad> | vv221: True. |
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14:32 | -!- | ftobich is "Fabio A. De Muzio Tobich" on #debian-cwb #debian-next #debian #debian-devel-br #debian-devel-changes #debian-br |
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14:32 | -!- | BrianG61UK is "Brian G. (in England)" on #linux-media #debian-raspberrypi #debian |
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14:34 | -!- | lenharo_ is "Daniel Lenharo" on #debian-next #debian-devel-changes #debian-devel-br #debian-br #debian |
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14:35 | -!- | kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debian #debian-ai #debian-next |
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14:36 | -!- | BrianG61UK_ is "Brian G. (in England)" on #linux-media #debian-raspberrypi #debian |
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14:36 | -!- | lenharo_ is "Daniel Lenharo" on #debian #debian-br #debian-devel-br #debian-devel-changes #debian-next @#lenharo #debian-mg #debian-cwb |
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14:38 | -!- | tizef is "realname" on #3hg #nakedeb #debian-next #debian |
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14:39 | -!- | lenharo is "Daniel Lenharo" on #debian #debian-br #debian-devel-br #debian-devel-changes #debian-next @#lenharo #debian-mg #debian-cwb |
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14:47 | -!- | ElPresidente is "realname" on #debian |
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14:48 | -!- | ftobich is "Fabio A. De Muzio Tobich" on #debian-cwb #debian-next #debian #debian-devel-br #debian-devel-changes #debian-br |
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14:50 | -!- | stylesen_ is "stylesen" on #debian #debian-india |
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14:51 | -!- | lenharo is "Daniel Lenharo" on #minidebconf-online #debian-social #debian-nonupload #debian-next #debian-lists #debian-i18n #debian-devel-changes #debian-devel-br #debian-bsb #debian-br #debian |
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14:54 | -!- | lenharo is "Daniel Lenharo" on #minidebconf-online #debian-social #debian-nonupload #debian-next #debian-lists #debian-i18n #debian-devel-changes #debian-devel-br #debian-bsb #debian-br #debian |
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14:56 | -!- | lenharo is "Daniel Lenharo" on #debian #debian-br #debian-bsb #debian-devel-br #debian-devel-changes #debian-i18n #debian-lists #debian-next |
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14:58 | -!- | lenharo is "Daniel Lenharo" on #minidebconf-online #debian-social #debian-nonupload #debian-next #debian-lists #debian-i18n #debian-devel-changes #debian-devel-br #debian-bsb #debian-br #debian |
14:58 | -!- | lenharo is now known as lenharo_ |
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15:02 | -!- | lenharo is "Daniel Lenharo" on #debian #debian-br #debian-bsb #debian-devel-br #debian-devel-changes #debian-i18n #debian-lists #debian-next #debian-nonupload #debian-social #minidebconf-online @#lenharo #debian-mg #debian-cwb |
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15:16 | -!- | lenharo is "Daniel Lenharo" on #minidebconf-online #debian-social #debian-nonupload #debian-next #debian-lists #debian-i18n #debian-devel-changes #debian-devel-br #debian-bsb #debian-br #debian |
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15:18 | -!- | lenharo is "Daniel Lenharo" on #debian #debian-br #debian-bsb #debian-devel-br #debian-devel-changes #debian-i18n #debian-lists #debian-next #debian-nonupload #debian-social #minidebconf-online @#lenharo #debian-mg #debian-cwb |
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15:22 | -!- | dpat is "dpat" on #debian-cinnamon #debian #debian-bsp-2021-szg #grml |
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15:26 | -!- | amacater is "realname" on #debian #debian-wsl |
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15:28 | -!- | texou is "Stoicien" on #debian-nonupload #hyprateam #debian-i18n #bitlbee #debian-next #debian #debian-devel-es #debian-devel-it #debian-a11y |
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15:37 | -!- | lenharo is "Daniel Lenharo" on #minidebconf-online #debian-social #debian-nonupload #debian-next #debian-lists #debian-i18n #debian-devel-changes #debian-devel-br #debian-bsb #debian-br #debian |
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15:38 | -!- | lenharo is "Daniel Lenharo" on #debian #debian-br #debian-bsb #debian-devel-br #debian-devel-changes #debian-i18n #debian-lists #debian-next #debian-nonupload #debian-social #minidebconf-online @#lenharo #debian-mg #debian-cwb |
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15:40 | -!- | lenharo is "Daniel Lenharo" on #debian #debian-br #debian-bsb #debian-devel-br #debian-devel-changes #debian-i18n #debian-lists #debian-next #debian-nonupload #debian-social #minidebconf-online @#lenharo #debian-mg #debian-cwb |
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15:45 | -!- | arnoldoree is "Arnold Opio Oree" on #virt #debian-tech #debian |
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15:46 | -!- | IPFreely is "wh0kares" on #freedombox #debian #Qubes_OS #tor |
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15:49 | -!- | lonewulf` is "U-lonewulf-PC\lonewulf" on #linode #debian-offtopic #debian #oftc |
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15:51 | -!- | sovtware is "realname" on #debian #debian-pl #ubuntu |
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15:55 | <jhutchins> | xfce was a little haphazard several years ago, it's pulled togther nicely in the last few releases. |
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15:59 | -!- | ChromaCat248 is "realname" on #virt #oftc #moocows #linux #debian #C # |
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16:36 | <sychill> | systemctl list-units | grep -i puls <= that gives nothing. Specifically, not pulseaudio. How might I go about finding which services map to a package? |
16:36 | <ratrace> | sychill: add --user. pulseaudio installs as a user .service |
16:38 | <sychill> | thanks, but that's still not found. I ran this as a user: systemctl list-units --user | grep -i puls |
16:38 | <ratrace> | WorksForMe(tm). do you even have pulseaudio installed? |
16:39 | <imMute> | sychill: systemctl status foo.service shows the path to the .service file. you can pass that to 'dpkg -S /path/to/foo.service' to see which package owns it. |
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16:40 | <sychill> | ratrace: yes it's installed, and it works as long as I run "/usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no". |
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16:41 | <imMute> | sychill: /usr/bin/pulseaudio comes from the pulseaudio package, which also provides the /usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service service. |
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16:41 | <ratrace> | sychill: why daemonize no? typically you run _with_ -D anyhoo, if you check dpkg -L pulseaudio | grep service, you'd see it installed it in /lib/systemd/user/ |
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16:42 | <jmcnaught> | The default pulseaudio.service user unit starts pulseaudio with --daemonize=no |
16:42 | <sychill> | ratrace: that was just a test. |
16:43 | <ratrace> | jmcnaught: yes because systemd is its process manager. but when you run pulseaudio manually typically it's with -D . issues are often solved with -k followed by -D or restart the service |
16:43 | <sychill> | this shows something useful: "systemctl status --user pulseaudio" so perhaps i just need to enable it and start it |
16:43 | <imMute> | sychill: list-units doesn't show all services by default. I don't remember which ones aren't shown by default, but you might need an --all in there |
16:44 | <ratrace> | sychill: on debian, that's the default. |
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16:46 | <sychill> | imMute: btw, i was originally trying to go the other way.. knowing the pkg name but not the service name. anyway, i know it's the same as the pkg name now, but strangely i can't get it to list this way: "systemctl list-units --user --all" |
16:46 | <imMute> | sychill: dpkg -L pulseaudio | grep .service$ |
16:47 | <ratrace> | that $, especially unescaped, is rather pointless |
16:47 | <imMute> | ratrace: it's not pointless, and it does work correctly |
16:48 | <sychill> | when nothing follows $, then it does not get expanded, so it ensures nothing follows .service |
16:48 | <imMute> | aye. |
16:49 | <imMute> | now is ".service" liekly to show up in paths output from "dpkg -L"? probably not. but it doesn't hurt to be there. |
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16:50 | <sychill> | output was "/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service" and "/lib/systemd/system/pulseaudio-enable-autospawn.service" |
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16:51 | <sychill> | still a mystery that "systemctl list-units --user --all" does not show pulseaudio, but "systemctl status --user pulseaudio" indeed confirms that it's there |
16:52 | <ratrace> | sychill: in what status is it? |
16:52 | <sychill> | Active: inactive (dead) |
16:53 | <sychill> | i'll enable it with my user acct |
16:53 | <sychill> | I guess every user would need to do that, in principle |
16:54 | <ratrace> | I would think that's default on debian. I never had to enable it specifically, and I don't even run any DE which would've done it for me |
16:54 | <sychill> | well, i did a debootstrap install, so i have to do more things manually. The last time i installed debian it was netinst, and that took care of it automatically |
16:55 | <ratrace> | I install with debootstrap too |
16:55 | <ratrace> | does the status list vendor preset: enabled ? |
16:55 | <sychill> | now i ran "systemctl enable --user pulseaudio" followed by "systemctl start --user pulseaudio", and status looks good.. says it's running. But no audio |
16:56 | <sychill> | Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) |
16:56 | <jhutchins> | !alsa checklist |
16:56 | <dpkg> | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
16:56 | <ratrace> | sychill: I found that I always had to run alsamixer and ramp up all the relevant channels (master, front) and remove the MM(ute) flags, first time |
16:57 | <ratrace> | they _should_ be in sync (PA and alsa controls), so maybe a PA-native control panel, like pavucontrol, would work too. I just used alsamixer because I always used alsamixer for many many years :) |
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17:02 | <sychill> | first time i ran "/usr/bin/pulseaudio --daemonize=no" & fiddled with alsamixer it worked. Now i've killed pulseaudio, and then ran the service (systemctl), and it doesn't work, even after fiddling with alsamixer again |
17:03 | <sychill> | "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" as root works |
17:04 | <jhutchins> | Pulseaudio is a layer on top of alsa, so it's worth going through the checklist. |
17:04 | <sychill> | i was already in the audio group even before i booted |
17:04 | <sychill> | is there an alsa service that I also need to run? |
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17:05 | <sney> | no, alsa is just kernel modules |
17:05 | <ratrace> | here's the extra kicker ... sound would work even with PA down in some cases. firefox, for example, will revert to alsa in absence of PA, and by absence I also mean permission issues when you bork your apparmor profile and forget to enable sound :) |
17:05 | <ratrace> | it's a mess alright. sychill: so what's the service status right now? any complaints by it, in the journal? |
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17:07 | <sychill> | http://sprunge.us/GF5tAG <= PA status |
17:08 | <sychill> | (the dots are actually green though).. guess it's not a color pastebin |
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17:08 | <ratrace> | sychill: and you're running aplay as uid 1000, right? |
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17:09 | <sychill> | no, i did that test as root |
17:09 | <sychill> | (step 5) |
17:09 | <ratrace> | oh ok, try that as use (Assuming uid 1000) |
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17:10 | <sychill> | well, that works as user too |
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17:10 | <ratrace> | so which sound doesn't work then? |
17:10 | <sychill> | so guess it's just Tor Browser that lost audio |
17:10 | <ratrace> | sychill: check with pavucontrol or something similar, if the application specific audio slider is at max |
17:11 | <sychill> | hmm.. works in ungoogled chromium. Zuckerberg getting questioned works in UG https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/freeradical-system/cache/media_attachments/files/106/534/494/351/550/583/original/659a26ca734cf9b7.mp4 |
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17:11 | <ratrace> | sychill: check that your tor thingy has access to PA socket, and it's not behind a namespace or sumfin |
17:12 | <ratrace> | (if application specific volume slider is maxed and unmuted) |
17:12 | * | sychill installs pavucontrol |
17:13 | <sychill> | well, tor browser worked when i ran pulseaudio on the CLI previously.. just lost it when I ran it as a service |
17:13 | <ratrace> | sychill: as a --user service, right? |
17:13 | <ratrace> | ie, not system-wide? |
17:13 | <sychill> | right |
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17:15 | <ratrace> | well basically the service just starts pulseaudio --daemonize=no, along with some security options and constraints. so it wouldn't work to other namespaces without fiddling |
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17:18 | <sychill> | strange.. tor browser is the only thing that lost audio when switching to a service. even this works over tor using firejail: curl -v http://76qugh5bey5gum7l.onion/c0vertElectr0 | mpg123 - |
17:19 | <ratrace> | sychill: firejail == namespace. and that won't work with teh service that restricts namespaces. nothing strange there |
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17:19 | <ratrace> | if you want to use firejail, either remove the namespaces restriction from teh service unit, or enable tcp based sockets |
17:20 | <ratrace> | (for PA, tcp sockets for PA) |
17:20 | <sychill> | pavucontrol is forever waiting with "establishing connection to PulseAudio.. please wait" |
17:20 | <sychill> | ratrace: i said audio *does* work from the firejail |
17:20 | <sychill> | tor browser is the only problem |
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17:21 | <sychill> | pavucontrol pretty much went to lunch |
17:21 | <ratrace> | I think I've seen it do that once or twice. eventually it showed up |
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17:30 | <sychill> | maybe it'll get sorted after the next reboot |
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18:03 | <refried_consult> | hey I am having some trouble switching to another tty for a text console (is that the term?) when I have gnome and gdm running (standard debian desktop. It should be ctrl+alt+F{1,2,33}, right? I only get a short screen blackout and then I am back on my desktop. |
18:05 | <quadrat> | refried_consult if you are on wayland, f1 and f2 are reserved for desktop usage, so with f3 ttys start |
18:05 | <refried_consult> | B: x11 |
18:05 | <quadrat> | is the screen blackout = doesn't receive a signal? or just a blackscreen? |
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18:09 | <refried_consult> | some more tests: |
18:09 | <refried_consult> | ok so |
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18:12 | <refried_consult> | F1 gets me to a gdm login screen. F2 gets me back to my desktop the first time. switching again seems to have killed the session, thats why I disconnected. F3 to F9 just show a black screen on which nothing happens. unsure if no signal, as it is a laptop |
18:12 | <quadrat> | that sounds like you are on wayland honestly, because if you are on x11, f7 would be your desktop. what kind of gpu do you have? |
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18:14 | <refried_consult> | gnome-settings about says X11. also sorry it is nvidia. But drivers are from debian non-free, not an sh installer |
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18:15 | <quadrat> | does you x11 log say anything? |
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18:19 | <refried_consult> | where would I look for that? |
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18:20 | <refried_consult> | Xorg.0.log found that |
18:20 | <refried_consult> | and Xorg.1.log that. 0 is 5 minutes older |
18:21 | <refried_consult> | [ 28348.990] (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file. Is last ine of 0 |
18:23 | <quadrat> | refried_consult could you post your whole file? |
18:23 | <quadrat> | using paste.debian.net |
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18:25 | <r4fkramer> | Hi all, please, I'm trying to install 'snapd' but get these errors. Tried to fix this issue reconfiguring 'dpkg', but errors persist: https://paste.debian.net/1203610/ |
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18:25 | <refried_consult> | [28348.780] which digit there is seconds? I can give you the relevant 3 minutes till the end |
18:26 | <sarnold> | refried_consult: 28348 -- the .780 is showing fractions of a second |
18:26 | <refried_consult> | ok |
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18:27 | <jmcnaught> | r4fkramer: Line 16: " error creating directory './var/snap': Operation not permitted" did you happen to have used "chattr +i" on /var the other day for your other issue? |
18:28 | <r4fkramer> | Thanks for answering jmcnaught. In fact, I didn't do it before |
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18:28 | <refried_consult> | so the log starting at [ 28305.234] (--) Log file renamed from "/var/log/Xorg.pid means that it only logs errors then? Because that is less than a minute and the computer ran way longer in total |
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18:29 | <sarnold> | r4fkramer: maybe namei -l /var/snap -- also check dmesg output |
18:29 | <r4fkramer> | jmcnaught, I paid attention about this message in line 16 and the line 19. Through message in line 19, tried to fix the installation error, as I said before, reconfiguring 'dpkg' |
18:31 | <r4fkramer> | Thanks for answering too, sarnold, please, is the first command you mention 'namei -l /va/snap' ? |
18:32 | <r4fkramer> | There are some red messages in 'dmesg', but apparently not related to this issue. |
18:32 | <sarnold> | r4fkramer: yes, just make sure to spell it correctly when you run it :) namei -l /var/snap |
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18:33 | <r4fkramer> | Fine, sarnold, I always pay attention about this question: spelling correctly to avoid others errors. Thank you :) |
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18:34 | <r4fkramer> | snap directory doesn't exit. |
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18:35 | <sarnold> | r4fkramer: and do the permissions on /var look sane? |
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18:36 | <r4fkramer> | sarnold, I think yes, but not sure: drwxr-xr-x root root / -> drwxr-xr-x root root var |
18:37 | <sarnold> | r4fkramer: they match mine, anyway.. |
18:38 | <jmcnaught> | r4fkramer: "lsattr -d /var" what does that say? |
18:38 | <sarnold> | hah, sniped by jmcnaught :) |
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18:39 | <r4fkramer> | jmcnaught: ----i----------------- /var |
18:40 | <jmcnaught> | r4fkramer: you did do "chattr +i /var" then. You can undo it with "chattr -i /var" |
18:41 | <refried_consult> | sarnold: et a |
18:41 | <refried_consult> | l https://paste.debian.net/1203611/ |
18:41 | <refried_consult> | if something relevant is missing I'll provide |
18:43 | <refried_consult> | Main question is why I can ctrl alt F6 or whatever to get a text console, because it is stable if not poked otherwise |
18:43 | <r4fkramer> | Ok sarnold and jmcnaught, I tried other resource, that I consider better, but I didn't work today - Yesterday, I could open android files without any problem through 'libmtp' , 'mtp tools' and 'jmtpfs' |
18:43 | <r4fkramer> | https://wiki.debian.org/mtp |
18:44 | <quadrat> | refried_consult what device do you use? (i assume a macbook) |
18:44 | <Sqrt{not}> | refried_consult, now you _can_ get the text console on F6 ? |
18:44 | <r4fkramer> | I check devide here through 'mtp-detect', and it is displayed |
18:44 | <refried_consult> | yeah |
18:44 | <refried_consult> | no, i get a black screen |
18:45 | <quadrat> | refried_consult what year is your device from? |
18:45 | <r4fkramer> | device is detected; but I have this error message: 'error returned by libusb_claim_interface() = -6LIBMTP PANIC: Unable to initialize device' |
18:46 | <r4fkramer> | Surely I prefer fix this issue, better using packages installed through 'apt' than 'snapd' for me |
18:47 | <r4fkramer> | I can list device in 'lsusb', the file is there |
18:48 | <refried_consult> | ctrl alt F2 to F7 gets me a black screen and F7 gets me back to gnome. F1 gets me to gdm login but that ki |
18:48 | <refried_consult> | lls the session sometimes so I didnt try that again |
18:49 | <refried_consult> | quadrat. I thought it was F2 before, but it is indeed F7 |
18:49 | <refried_consult> | macbook is from 2011 i think |
18:51 | <quadrat> | eh, did you try to use the open source driver? with that old gpu, it's not really worth it to go with the nvidia driver |
18:51 | <refried_consult> | if gdm isnt running tty switching works as expected I think. And I think on non-debian it used to work with gnome too, but I dont wanna run non-debian |
18:52 | <refried_consult> | on nouveau with a debian gnome live disk the same happens |
18:52 | <quadrat> | oO |
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18:52 | <quadrat> | i have a late mb 2010 and never had issues in that regard (running buster for now) |
18:52 | <refried_consult> | that is why I thought I'd ask here if this is maybe expected behaviour |
18:53 | <quadrat> | no that's not intended |
18:54 | <refried_consult> | It is not that bad, but it is a problem if the session hangs and I can't switch ttys for a rescure |
18:54 | <quadrat> | are you running buster or bullseye refried_consult as you are running a 5.10 kernel |
18:55 | <refried_consult> | bullseye. no frankendebian |
18:55 | <refried_consult> | bullseye main contrib non-free. is the only line in sources.list |
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18:55 | <quadrat> | backports would have 5.10 that's why i am asking |
18:56 | <refried_consult> | yeah, I should have mentioned |
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18:57 | <quadrat> | refried_consult did you try to use a buster live image? and if it works there, I guess you would need to report a bug |
18:57 | <refried_consult> | looking at my notes it seems this used to work on buster on this machine |
18:57 | <refried_consult> | had the same thought there |
18:58 | <quadrat> | as I don't have access to my mb right now, i can't test it myself :/ |
18:58 | <refried_consult> | I dont really know where I would report a bug againt what. |
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18:59 | <refried_consult> | quadrat: Is that nvidia too? |
18:59 | <sonce> | i messed up a texlive installation and now im stuck with a "1 not fully installed or removed.", can anyone help pls ? |
18:59 | <quadrat> | refried_consult yes |
18:59 | <quadrat> | 9400M if i remember correctly |
19:00 | <refried_consult> | [ 28341.338] (II) event11 - Power Button: device removed - I like this part of the log |
19:01 | <quadrat> | sonce, any more ouput? |
19:01 | <quadrat> | lol refried_consult |
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19:02 | <sonce> | Missing head file /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config/language.us: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/update-language line 139. |
19:02 | <sonce> | dpkg: error processing package tex-common (--configure): |
19:02 | <dpkg> | sonce: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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19:04 | <sonce> | hmmm .... can u pls give me the link to that website for pastebin ? |
19:04 | <sonce> | thanks |
19:04 | <quadrat> | paste.debian.net |
19:05 | <sonce> | https://paste.debian.net/1203614/ |
19:05 | <sonce> | thanks |
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19:06 | <quadrat> | what does "sudo dpkg --configure -a" do? |
19:07 | <refried_consult> | I am happy to talk more about this Question A, but I have another Question B, too. How would I run a longer running command with lots of output on the command line (like bash in the gnome terminal), but then filter out lines that partially match a certian string? I have a command here that logs an irrelevent same message several times a second, and that makes it hard to observe the important bits that come over the minutes. |
19:07 | <sonce> | exact same |
19:07 | <sonce> | its looking at the wrong place |
19:08 | <refried_consult> | looks like this: 1625613242 WARNING same string every time. the number in the beginning doe increment |
19:08 | <sonce> | that language.us file is in /usr/local/texlive/2021/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config , not in /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/generic/config |
19:09 | <quadrat> | sonce do you run bullseye? |
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19:13 | <sonce> | it says buster |
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19:17 | <r4fkramer> | Hi sarnold and jmcnaught, I didn't continue trying to install 'android file transfer', for I could fix my issue here according this debian tutorial for 'mtp'. Thank you :)' |
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19:17 | <sarnold> | r4fkramer: woot, I'm glad that worked out ;) I never understood all that android stuff |
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19:20 | <r4fkramer> | Yes, sarnold, if you doesn't concentrate in some passages of the information, you tend to get any mistake - what I did here at first. Now it's fine. Really thank you very much for attention and Great Support ! |
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19:22 | <sarnold> | \o/ |
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19:29 | <spawacz> | refried_consult: just grep |
19:30 | <spawacz> | grep -E '[[:digit:]]+' |
19:32 | <spawacz> | also match the beginning of the line with ^ |
19:33 | <sonce> | pls help or redirect me elsewhere ? |
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19:35 | <quadrat> | sonce i am still not sure why it happens on your pc, as a new buster install installs tex-common perfectly fine, so do you have anything special installed? 3rd party repos? |
19:36 | <sonce> | i downloaded texlive directly because it was telling me i need 2021 |
19:36 | <sonce> | so this happened with tl-20210705 |
19:36 | <quadrat> | directly from where? |
19:37 | <sonce> | tug.org |
19:37 | <refried_consult> | spawacs I dont want to redirect the output to a file and then search that, but to look at the output in the terminal as it comes in. just with some messages not being shown |
19:37 | <quadrat> | sonce so you would need to ask them, as that's not a debian package |
19:38 | <sonce> | how do i remove it ? |
19:38 | <quadrat> | that's something for them to answer ;) |
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19:39 | <sonce> | am ... and that was not a joke now |
19:39 | <sonce> | fine |
19:39 | <quadrat> | no it's not, because why would debian users know what random script does? |
19:40 | <sonce> | for surely theres a way to uninstall ANY package whatever the package |
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19:41 | <sonce> | ok, well, any way u can help me get a mic working ? |
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19:41 | <quadrat> | sonce again, that's something you would need to ask them, as only they know what the script does |
19:41 | <quadrat> | sonce you would need to explain more, so that somebody can help |
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19:42 | <sonce> | its not working , pavucontrol can see the mic being plugged in , but it is not working |
19:44 | <quadrat> | sorry can't help on sound/mic, as I don't even have speakers connected |
19:44 | <sonce> | ok, thanks |
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20:16 | <refried_consult> | I willbe logging of now but look at the archives later. so if anybody has an answer please write it still. |
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20:17 | <Sqrt{not}> | sonce, I don't know much about tex, but I can offer you https://texfaq.org/ and MAYBE the folks in channel #latex at irc.libera.chat MAYBE would be kind enough to listen to your question |
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20:17 | <sonce> | thanks |
20:18 | <sonce> | any idea why my shell is saying qt.qpa.screen: QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display. Could not connect to any X display. ? |
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20:25 | <sarnold> | sonce: are you perchance running in a wayland compositor instead of X? I think there's a way to get wayland to run an x server for x clients but I don't know off-hand how that works |
20:25 | <sonce> | sorry, i dont know what this means |
20:26 | <sarnold> | heh, sorry |
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20:28 | <sonce> | ok, its saying this: Type=x11 |
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20:56 | <sychill> | Xwayland is the pkg that enables x11 apps to run on Wayland. Xorg is also needed in that case |
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21:00 | <sychill> | sonce, sarnold: a simple test to know if you're using wayland: run "xeyes". if the eyes follow your mouse everywhere regardless of window, then you're most likely running x11 purely. If there is at least one window where the eyes don't move, then that's a wayland window and it means you have wayland installed |
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21:04 | <sarnold> | sychill: oh that's very handy, thanks |
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21:05 | <jmcnaught> | "loginctl session-status" should also show the session type |
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21:06 | <quadrat> | sychill you don't need xorg to run xwayland |
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21:07 | <sychill> | well, i've been told otherwise, but i didn't test it |
21:08 | <quadrat> | xwayland is just a stripped down xorg, so why would you need xorg ;) |
21:09 | <sychill> | i thought xwayland was middleware running on top of xorg |
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21:10 | <sychill> | guess i'll keep xorg around since i have a java app that apparently cannot handle xwayland or wayland |
21:11 | <sychill> | perhaps I can do cntrl-alt-f2 and run ratpoison in that terminal to use the one java app |
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21:27 | <sonce> | fixed my texlive :D |
21:27 | <sonce> | so whats wrong with my cli ? |
21:27 | <sonce> | pretty pls, i promise ill donate, i did last time |
21:28 | <sonce> | im rly not used to not have IT support, work from home sux |
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21:32 | <Sqrt{not}> | sonce, is this where you see the message about qt.qpa.screen could not connect? |
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21:38 | <sychill> | https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser/a2dp <= this says pulseaudio-module-bluetooth clashes with libspa-0.2-bluetooth. So we must choose one of them. Then it says choose a pairing tool. I chose blueman. But when I run "aptitude install blueman libspa-0.2-bluetooth --simulate", it shows that *both* libspa-0.2-bluetooth and pulseaudio-module-bluetooth would be installed |
21:38 | <sychill> | does this mean that libspa-0.2-bluetooth is also incompatible with blueman? |
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21:39 | <sychill> | and shouldn't aptitude protect me from that? Shouldn't it say my request is a bad idea? |
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21:40 | <sonce> | Sqrt{not}, yeah . among other |
21:40 | <sonce> | somehow only su - works, and my only other user is not on sudoers list |
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21:43 | <Sqrt{not}> | sonce, su behavior changed in buster, to require the " -" to get root's environment variables including $PATH. but on su - works ("works" for what?) |
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21:44 | <Sqrt{not}> | sonce you can add sudo permission to your other user if you want to. |
21:44 | <sonce> | for everything , su - is the only thing that works works, everything else is stuck not finding stuff |
21:44 | <sonce> | it says its added |
21:44 | <Sqrt{not}> | what everything else for example? |
21:45 | <sonce> | like installing texlive |
21:45 | <sonce> | im sorry , im not good at this |
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21:45 | <Sqrt{not}> | installing with debian packaging tools? yes, that should be done as root. |
21:45 | <sonce> | i know , but say if i wanna open up a file as kate blabla from normal user it works |
21:46 | <sonce> | but if i do that while logged in with su - it displays that message and vi is rly not handy if theres thousands of lines |
21:46 | <sonce> | it just feels like something is wrong |
21:46 | <sonce> | or maybe thats normal but has changed with buster ? |
21:47 | <sonce> | than im wrong |
21:47 | <Sqrt{not}> | OK, slow down. |
21:47 | <Sqrt{not}> | when you do what exactly when inside su - ? what message it displays ? what does vi have to do with it? |
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21:48 | <sonce> | if i try to run kate is stays qt.qpa.screen: QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display Could not connect to any X display. |
21:48 | <sonce> | says |
21:49 | <themill> | You shouldn't be trying to run kate as root |
21:49 | <sonce> | so then how do u open a log file with a lock icon on it ? |
21:50 | <themill> | "open" meaning what? |
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21:50 | <sonce> | to see whats inthere without being stuck with something like vi |
21:50 | <themill> | what are you trying to achieve? (not how do you think you're going to achieve it) |
21:50 | <themill> | you don't use a text editor to look at a file... |
21:51 | <sychill> | "xhost +" might be the quick and dirty answer here |
21:51 | <sonce> | lol, ill try use my third eye next time :/ |
21:51 | <themill> | absolutely not |
21:51 | <sonce> | i dont understand what u mean |
21:52 | <Sqrt{not}> | sonce, I would use the command "less" to look at a log file |
21:52 | <themill> | or grep if I wanted to filter it |
21:52 | <Sqrt{not}> | if your user just got added to group sudo, you should log out and log back in, to make that effective |
21:52 | <sonce> | ok, so getting that display message is what is supposed to happen ? |
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21:53 | <themill> | yes, other users can't open programs on your display (that's basic security); you also shouldn't run GUI programs as root; you also shouldn't open read-only log files in a read-write editor |
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21:55 | <sonce> | ok , |
21:56 | <sonce> | ill try log out and log back in |
21:56 | <sonce> | brb |
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22:03 | <sonce> | apparently im still not on sudoers list |
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22:07 | <Sqrt{not}> | sonce, what is the output of command: groups |
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22:08 | <sonce> | sonce cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev bluetooth lpadmin |
22:09 | <Sqrt{not}> | yup, not in sudoers. what did you do before, to try to add yourself there? |
22:09 | <sonce> | sudo adduser sonce |
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22:10 | <sonce> | it said it exists |
22:10 | <sonce> | was i just trying to add a normal user |
22:10 | <Sqrt{not}> | yes |
22:10 | <sonce> | ? |
22:10 | <sonce> | oh |
22:10 | <sonce> | ok |
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22:10 | <Sqrt{not}> | you can do sudo, until you are in the group |
22:11 | <sonce> | can or cant ? |
22:11 | <Sqrt{not}> | so you need to become root with su - ; then run this command: adduser sonce sudo |
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22:11 | <sonce> | ok, so just diff order |
22:11 | <Sqrt{not}> | ah, sorry "can't" |
22:11 | <sonce> | i do that a LOT |
22:11 | <sonce> | mess up order of things |
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22:11 | <sonce> | log out again ? |
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22:13 | <Sqrt{not}> | OK, if you need to become root via sudo. what is the actual goal here? |
22:13 | <sonce> | oh, no , ive done that and it said Adding user `sonce' to group `sudo' ...Adding user sonce to group sudo Done |
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22:13 | <sonce> | so i guess it did that |
22:13 | <Sqrt{not}> | good, that is correct :) |
22:14 | <istrive_> | is there an official way to gracefully shutdown Windows Server guest system when the linux host reboots or shutdown? |
22:14 | <istrive_> | headless start doesn't close with acpipowerbutton because the system doesn't allow enough time for the system to close properly... |
22:14 | <istrive_> | Hyper-X and VMWare has this feature natively, what's the problem of implementing this on VirtualBox? |
22:15 | <Sqrt{not}> | sonce, so right now you are logged in directly as root ? what is your goal? what are you actually trying to do? |
22:15 | <sonce> | figure out why i cant just use sudo |
22:15 | <sonce> | i have to log out again ? |
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22:16 | <Sqrt{not}> | yes, if you were logged in as sonce before the group was added to that user, you should log it out and back in, if you need to run sudo for some goal. |
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22:16 | <Sqrt{not}> | but you could probably accomplish the goal while you are directly logged in as root. |
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22:18 | <istrive_> | any ideas? |
22:19 | <sonce> | i think that worked :) |
22:19 | <John> | Hi, can anybody help me with a Failed to start, (code=exited, status=200/CHDIR) issue? |
22:20 | <quadrat> | istrive_ you would probably want to hit up virtualbox support, not debian, as virtualbox is not in the repos (buster) |
22:20 | <raven523> | John: check the output before that line, though that sounds like it tried too use a directory that doesn't exist or where it doesn't have read/exec permissions |
22:21 | <Sqrt{not}> | sonce: OK, good. Use your new-found powers wisely ;) |
22:21 | <John> | This is the whole line: Process: 3113 ExecStart=/usr/bin/node /opt/ring-mqtt/ring-mqtt.js (code=exited, status=200/CHDIR). I have tried editing the config.json file, and it changes the process error number, but fails each time |
22:21 | <sonce> | limited to basic coding :P |
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22:21 | <sonce> | ok, so is there a way to "check" if this installation is "healthy" coz i had nothing but throuble with it : |
22:22 | <istrive_> | quadrat, I have tried that venue, unfortunately without success! I was wondering if anyone here have faced the same challenge! |
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22:22 | <raven523> | what else is in the service file? |
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22:24 | <imMute> | John: redirect stdout/stderr to the journal for that service if it's not already. and then check the journal for error messages from the daemon |
22:25 | <John> | What do you mean by that? I am a complete novice with the pi thus far.. As if that wasn't obvious already. The service is a github file |
22:25 | <quadrat> | istrive_ i guess you can try, but pretty sure you get better changes in the virtualbox support channel |
22:26 | <raven523> | systemctl cat whatever.service |
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22:27 | <John> | pi@raspberrypi:~/ring-mqtt $ systemctl cat ring-mqtt.service # /lib/systemd/system/ring-mqtt.service #!/bin/sh - [Unit] Description=ring-mqtt After=network.target [Service] ExecStart=/usr/bin/node /opt/ring-mqtt/ring-mqtt.js Restart=always User=root Group=root Environment=PATH=/usr/bin/ Environment=NODE_ENV=production Environment=DEBUG=ring-mqtt StandardOutput=file:/var/log/ring-mqtt.log StandardError=file:/var/log/ring-mqtt.log Working |
22:27 | <raven523> | does the directory /var/log exist? |
22:27 | <sonce> | brb |
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22:28 | <yanmaani> | is Debian going to drop Audacity what with the current events? |
22:28 | <yanmaani> | or change to some fork? |
22:29 | <quadrat> | yanmaani those patches are probably gonna be patched out |
22:29 | <yanmaani> | huh, under what circumstances would it get replaced by a fork? |
22:29 | <yanmaani> | like the ffmpeg thing |
22:30 | <John> | Would I access that (if it exists) by using cd ring-mqtt/var/log? |
22:31 | <raven523> | no just cd /var/log |
22:31 | <John> | It does exist |
22:31 | <quadrat> | yanmaani it's just very unlikely that debian will switch to a fork of somebody who nobody knows |
22:32 | <yanmaani> | quadrat: even if the development looks to be moving over? |
22:32 | <raven523> | does "journalctl -u ring-mqtt' give you a more useful message? |
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22:32 | <sney> | yanmaani: the current audacity package has a patch to remove some non-free stuff, so I think it's most likely that the next package will also patch out the new "phone home" features. but right now bullseye is frozen so there will be no new audacity uploads until sometime after the release |
22:32 | <quadrat> | yanmaani anything other than rumors? didn't see anything. and on top (just to compare libav) back then devs from ffmpeg switched over to libav |
22:33 | <quadrat> | so there was some credibility |
22:34 | <John> | [2850]: ring-mqtt.service: Changing to the requested working directory failed: No such file or directory Jul 06 20:22:30 raspberrypi systemd[2850]: ring-mqtt.service: Failed at step CHDIR spawning /usr/bin/node: No such file or directory. It says this for [2850, 2852, 2853, 2854, 2855, and 2871] |
22:36 | <John> | And [2872]. All have the same error |
22:36 | <raven523> | it looks like your message saying what the contents of ring-mqtt.service was got cut off right after "Working" |
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22:36 | <raven523> | what does it say for WorkingDirectory= ? |
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22:38 | <John> | requested working directory failed: No such file or directory |
22:39 | <John> | Or did you mean "WorkingDirectory=" as a command? |
22:39 | <imMute> | systemctl cat whatever.service |
22:39 | <imMute> | John: ^^ |
22:41 | <John> | WorkingDirectory=/opt/ring-mqtt [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target Alias=ring-mqtt.service |
22:41 | <imMute> | then /opt/ring-mqtt doesn't exist |
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22:42 | <John> | is the fix as simple as adding that directory, or is this a bigger issue? |
22:43 | <imMute> | that should fix that issue |
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22:44 | <yanmaani> | quadrat: no, I'm not following it closely, but I know there's some forks |
22:44 | <John> | How would I add that directory? Will it be missing things that the service is looking for? |
22:44 | <imMute> | does the program come with a README? |
22:45 | <quadrat> | yanmaani yes, but for now they are only "backup" forks |
22:45 | <quadrat> | i know there is 1 guy on reddit who tries to be the new upstream, but i never heard of that guy (but that doesn't say anything about him) |
22:46 | <imMute> | John: sudo mkdir /opt/ring-mqtt |
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22:50 | <John> | (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) This is after adding the directory |
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22:51 | <John> | Changing to the requested working directory failed: No such file or directory |
22:52 | <raven523> | so it's probably dying for some other reason. check the journal or look at /var/log/ring-mqtt.log |
22:52 | <imMute> | John: is that a new message or the same old one? |
22:52 | <raven523> | this unit file doesn't specify RootDirectory, does it? |
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22:55 | <John> | Same old one. Where would it specify the root directory? |
22:55 | <raven523> | in /lib/systemd/system/ring-mqtt.service |
22:56 | <John> | It says that is not a directory |
22:56 | <raven523> | that's a file |
22:57 | <John> | Do I enter sudo /lib/systemd/system/ring-mqtt.service to access it? I apologize that I am not more educated with this |
22:57 | <raven523> | no just use a text editor |
22:57 | <raven523> | or cat it |
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22:58 | <John> | #!/bin/sh - [Unit] Description=ring-mqtt After=network.target [Service] ExecStart=/usr/bin/node /opt/ring-mqtt/ring-mqtt.js Restart=always User=root Group=root Environment=PATH=/usr/bin/ Environment=NODE_ENV=production Environment=DEBUG=ring-mqtt StandardOutput=file:/var/log/ring-mqtt.log StandardError=file:/var/log/ring-mqtt.log WorkingDirectory=/opt/ring-mqtt [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target Alias=ring-mqtt.service |
22:59 | <raven523> | it doesn't set RootDirectory, so it should just check that /opt/ring-mqtt exists |
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23:01 | <John> | Which it does |
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23:01 | <raven523> | is there anything in /var/log/ring-mqtt.log ? |
23:02 | <imMute> | raven523: I don't think they restarted the service and are looking at old log messages |
23:02 | <John> | internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:638 throw err; ^ Error: Cannot find module '/opt/ring-mqtt/ring-mqtt.js' at Function.Module._resolveFilename (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:636:15) at Function.Module._load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:562:25) at Function.Module.runMain (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:831:12) at startup (internal/bootstrap/node.js:283:19) at bootstrapNodeJSCore (internal/bootstrap/node.js:62 |
23:02 | <raven523> | does /opt/ring-mqtt/ring-mqtt.js exist? |
23:03 | <imMute> | ah, so it expects more stuff in there. check the README for the software - there's probably some install procedure you have to do |
23:03 | <imMute> | raven523: no, /opt/ring-mqtt/ was just created minutes ago |
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23:04 | <John> | cat: /opt/ring-mqtt/ring-mqtt.js: No such file or directory |
23:05 | <raven523> | you should probably set up whatever files are supposed to be in that directory |
23:05 | <John> | I followed the readme instructions again, and it has not changed anything as far as the errors go |
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23:08 | <John> | Is this normal? This is after running the readme scripts again. 46 packages are looking for funding |
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23:09 | <raven523> | that sounds normal for unning npm |
23:09 | <raven523> | *running |
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23:11 | <John> | There is also 3 vulnerabilities, could those be the issue? |
23:11 | <John> | All 3 are is regards to the ring-client-api |
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23:15 | <John> | Is there an easy way to erase all of the files except the OS so I can try again from scratch? I must have messed up somewhere |
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23:32 | <sonce> | can someone help get my microphone working please ? |
23:33 | <Sqrt{not}> | yanmaani, quadrat, sney, see bug #990737 "The telemetry is off by default when building from source" as debian does |
23:33 | <judd> | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/990737 in audacity (open, upstream): «Audacity's new privacy policy may need to be addressed»; severity: important; opened: 2021-07-05; last modified: 2021-07-06. |
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23:36 | <quadrat> | Sqrt{not} thanks :) |
23:36 | <sney> | Sqrt{not}: great! |
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