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00:07<Guest62>long life to debian!!!
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01:32<archivist>why does ln parse unquoted filenames with spaces correctly live in the shell, but not in a shell script?
01:33<jm_>what exactly do you mean with parse? and how do you pass it to ln in interactive shell? tab? there's your answer
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01:36<archivist>two lines of code. first, i assign $(xsel -b) to a variable, say, $testVar.
01:37<archivist>then I do: ln ${testVar//"file://"/} /home/archivist/
01:37<raven523>are you using the same shell interactively that you are using for the script?
01:37<archivist>as opposed to a fork?
01:38<archivist>or, yes?
01:38<raven523>I don't mean the same process, I mean the same program
01:38<archivist>same shell session, yes. same window.
01:38<raven523>what do you get from 'echo $SHELL' and what does the shell script start with?
01:39<archivist>/bin/bash and #!/bin/bash
01:39<raven523>I don't remember if bash parses things differently when running shell scripts. maybe you have some setting in bashrc or bash_profile that's affecting it
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01:40<raven523>in any case, you should always quote arguments in commands that might have spaces
01:40<raven523>so do something like this: ln "${testvar//"file://"/}" /home/archivist
01:41<archivist>but the result of ${testvar//"file://"/} is a list of space-delimited filenames with spaces in them
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01:42<raven523>if it's a list of files then you should probably pipe it to xargs or use it in a for loop
01:42<archivist>id need to do some string manipulation to get the quotes into the right place, and i dont have the regex skills or know the shell shortcuts applicable here
01:42<raven523>is the list of filenames separated by line breaks?
01:43<archivist>it was dispaying that way in the shell but in ${} form it appears as space-delimited
01:43<archivist>so i don't know
01:48<archivist>if i give the command "xsel -ob" to the shell, it displays each file name on a new line. if i "echo $(xsel -b)", it displays them with only a psace between.
01:48<raven523>it sounds like it's stripping newlines
01:48<raven523>it might make sense to pipe that to a read/while loop or to xargs
01:49<raven523>I don't remember the exact syntax for one though
01:49<archivist>being a newbie again sucks
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01:50<archivist>i just need to be able to make a fricking hard link in dolphin
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01:56<jm_>in general, cmd-to-read-outputfrom | xargs ... cmd-to-run-with-output
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02:02<archivist>yeah, i got it. but i need to be able to append another parameter after the input items passed to xargs
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02:17<jm_>as in another line or parameter for 2nd command?
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04:29<joanartur>Hi there! Greetings from Barcelona, Spain. Does anyone have any idea when the final release of Debian 11 will be out?
04:30<joanartur>I thought that like last year, it would come out this July 6th....
04:30<tarzeau>July 31, 20221
04:30<joanartur>Great @tarzeau !
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04:31<joanartur>Changing the subject, is this the official Debian IRC chat?
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04:32<jm_>yes
04:32<jm_>more like support
04:32<joanartur>Cool @jm
04:32<joanartur>I thought Libera Chat was the official...
04:33<Mikaela>I don't think freenode ever was official either
04:34<joanartur>Yes @Michaela... i think you are right
04:34<Mikaela>oh, looks like freenode was official until 2006 https://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060604
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04:35<joanartur>2006 seems far away...
04:35<joanartur>@Mikaela thanks for the information :)
04:35<Mikaela>you're welcome, thanks for making me look it up :)
04:35<joanartur>hehehe
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04:36<joanartur>Do Debian developers usually enter this channel?
04:37<jhutchins>joanartur: If they do they keep their heads down.
04:37<joanartur>hehehe
04:38<jhutchins>joanartur: What you have here is a community of users with varying levels of experience and knowledge. Usually works out pretty well.
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04:39<joanartur>Do you think we will see GNOME 40 as an update to Debian 11.X, or will we have to wait for Debian 12 for it...?
04:39<joanartur>thanks @jhutchins ;)
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04:41<jhutchins>joanartur: I would expect that a major version upgrade would be a matter of a release increment.
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04:42<joanartur>It seems the most probable...
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04:44<joanartur>OK boys & girls, thank you very much for the information! And have a nice "libre" day :) Cheers!
04:45<joanartur>See you around! Bye!
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05:53<kali_>hi there!!
05:53<quadrat>!kali
05:53<dpkg>Kali Linux https://kali.org/ is a security/penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but is different enough that we don't provide support in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.libera.chat or https://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian> and read https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
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05:54<kali_>it's not that kali it's KAli_
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05:56<kali_>dejawoo
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05:59<kali_>chutki_: hi
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06:20<kali_>all creepy bastards
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06:29<juanan>hi
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07:56<xuezhang>helloworld
07:56<afernandez>Does anyone know where the freenode bash channel went to?
07:56<afernandez>!debia
07:56<afernandez>!debian
07:56<dpkg>i heard debian is http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents
07:56<ansgar>afernandez: Either Libera.Chat or OFTC.
07:56<afernandez>Thank you.
07:56<ansgar>afernandez: (Careful! libera.net is a domain bought for typosquatting by Freenode)
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07:57<afernandez>Be careful? what can happen?
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07:58<xuezhang>bye bye, i will back
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07:59<bremner>afernandez: ask yourself if you want to use an irc network that imitates other networks
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08:00<cc>libera.net does not even resolve
08:00<bremner>also, #bash on irc.libera.chat has 572 users, so that's probably what you want
08:01<cc>what is there to be careful of, I wonder
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08:01<wwilliam>Thank you. bremner ansgar
08:01<bremner>cc: irc.libera.net _does_ resolve.
08:01<bremner>well, it's a cname if we're being pedantic
08:02<cc>no one said anything about irc.libera.net but ok
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08:04<ratrace>ansgar: how do you know it was reg'd by freenode?
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08:05<ansgar>ratrace: https://crt.sh/?q=irc.libera.net Freenode requested TLS certificates covering both freenode.net & libera.net. So they use/control the domain and it's not just an unrelated third party.
08:06<ratrace>ansgar: I see.
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08:06<ratrace>extremely douchebag-y by andrew "lee" ryan
08:06<cc>I find it hillarious that they made it a cname pointing to the freenode server
08:06<cc>how desperate can you get
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10:17<Eduardo>Hi everyone. I upgraded my laptop to Bullseye and I can see that the packages "hibernate" and "uswsusp" that deals with hibernation, are not available in Bullseye (available until Buster). Does anyone know how I could check information why those packages are not available anymore?
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10:20<themill>Eduardo: neither of those packages have actually been needed for hibernation for at least a decade btw
10:21<themill>,bug rm uswsusp
10:21<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/954061 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: uswsusp -- RoQA; Dead upstream, unmaintained»; severity: normal; opened: 2020-03-16; last modified: 2020-04-15.
10:21<themill>,bug rm hibernate
10:21<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/954062 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: hibernate -- RoQA; Dead upstream, unmaintained»; severity: normal; opened: 2020-03-16; last modified: 2020-04-15.
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11:19<mendel_munkis>I just had an unexpected X restart. after logging back in I saw that a drive (not / or /home) seems to have fallen off the bus. I rebooted and booting fails seemingly due to a "SECURITY_FREEZE_LOCK" is there anything I can do about this?
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11:39<free2>Hello, do you need help with Debian?
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11:46<sussudio>mendel_munkis: google for security_freeze_lock
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11:51<mendel_munkis>all I found was stuff saying it's ssd related however the effected drive is an hdd
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11:54<NthDegree>mendel_munkis, that sounds like the disk is mid way through a security wipe or has had a password applied to it
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11:55<vv221>themill, from my last tests (on Buster) uswsusp worked fine with hibernation to a swap file, while systemctl hibernate is happy only with a swap partition. Do you know if there is still a need to avoid systemctl for hibernation on a swap file with Bullseye?
11:55<NthDegree>mendel_munkis, https://grok.lsu.edu/article.aspx?articleid=16716 <-- have a read of that
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11:56<vv221>(I might have a machine available to test that, running a Debian Sid, I only need to check if it uses a swap file or a swap partition)
11:56<NthDegree>mendel_munkis, if you SECURITY ERASE the disk, it should be unlockable again
11:56<NthDegree>(in caps because that's part of the verbiage, which is expressed in caps)
11:56<mendel_munkis>something tells me that security eraseing a disk is a good way to lose data
11:57<NthDegree>well yes it is, but if your disk is security frozen and you don't know the password to unlock it then wiping it unlocks it
11:58<mendel_munkis>how would that happen?
11:58<NthDegree>by applying a password (not encryption) to the disk
11:58<mendel_munkis>assuming Ididn't do anything strange in the past week.
11:59<NthDegree>Dell and HP machines often have an option to apply a password to disks to inhibit moving them between machines which sometimes makes use of it
11:59<vv221>I see Debian documentation still relies on uswsusp: https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation/Hibernate_Without_Swap_Partition (but it has not been updated for a couple years)
11:59<NthDegree>if you're looking to get the data off it, you can sometimes try putting the disk in a different PC to see if it's just the BIOS engaging it
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12:00<mendel_munkis>NthDegree: that is my primary concern, my secondary concern is figuring out why it happened to prevent a repeat occurance.
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12:02<NthDegree>mendel_munkis, if you're using an HP/Dell machine, have a look for SATA security options and see if there's any available. Some BIOSes use freeze lock as a protection mechanism to prevent malware from initiating wipes but that sometimes backfires and locks people out of disks
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12:04<mendel_munkis>not hp/dell but thanks for the advice
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12:05<mendel_munkis>booting off a live disk is failing as well.
12:05<NthDegree>does the live environment itself fail to load?
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12:06<NthDegree>if you can, try to boot a system where you can use hdparm
12:06<NthDegree>hdparm -I /dev/sda (replace sda with appropriate identifier)
12:06<NthDegree>that should get you some status info
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12:24<mendel_munkis>I just tried booting into multi-user on debian live it stops booting partway through after displaying a bunch of ata errors
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12:29<sychill>i tried to find a PNG viewer that's wayland-native by running this, and got nothing => aptitude search '?tag(use::viewing) ?tag(works-with-format::png) ?tag(wayland::application)'
12:30<sychill>i took a guess on '?tag(wayland::application)' based on the fact that eog has the tag '?tag(x11::application)'
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12:31<petn-randall>sychill: Not all packages are fully tagged, so you might want to just search by other means. Pretty sure both gnome and KDE have wayland picture viewers.
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12:31<sychill>actually '?tag(wayland::application)' alone gets zero hits. So the question is, is there a way to wildcard 'wayland'?
12:33<petn-randall>sychill: https://wiki.debian.org/Debtags
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12:34<sychill>thanks
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12:35<petn-randall>sychill: AFAICS there are no debtags related to wayland.
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12:38<sychill>i wonder if searching based on dependency might be the way to go. maybe all wayland apps are ultimately dependant on libwayland-client0
12:38<ansgar>The x11::application should just be graphical-interface::application, but x11 was basically just that.
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12:39<ansgar>The idea of "wayland native" isn't too useful either: if, for example, a program uses Gtk it works with either Wayland or X11 as "native" as it could.
12:39*sychill tries adding '!?tag(x11::application)'
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12:40<sychill>well, shit
12:40<sychill>so i can't exclude x11 either
12:43<petn-randall>sychill: Excluding X11 doesn't make any sense. Every applications that runs on wayland will 100% sure work on X11, too.
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12:44<ansgar>petn-randall: For now ;-)
12:44<petn-randall>That's because GTK and Qt (in Debian) support both X11 and wayland.
12:44<petn-randall>ansgar: Sure, who knows if that's the case in 5-10 years.
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12:47<NthDegree>X11 will likely be a "universal glue" for a decade or two
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12:53<October>what command do I use to see if my NIC is in Full Duplex mode or Half Duplex?
12:54<jhutchins>eethtool
12:54<jhutchins>ethtool
12:55<October>ok thanks
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12:58<jhutchins>!ethtool
12:58<dpkg>ethtool is a utility for displaying and changing Ethernet device settings, e.g. speed, duplex, auto-negotiation, wake-on (lan). Since Debian 6.0 "Squeeze", most settings can be specified in /etc/network/interfaces; see /usr/share/doc/ethtool/README.Debian for supported settings. http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/software/network/ethtool/ See also <which ethernet module>, <wol>, <nictools>.
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13:26<October>I have an issue with slow traffic on my LAN between my Win10 computer and my Debian server. When I download files from the Internet on my Win10 box, I can get up to 80 Mbps... but when I transfer files from my Win10 box to Debian box, it is insanely slow... NIC is in Full Duplex... any ideas as to what may be wrong?
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13:26<petn-randall>October: What protocol are you using to transfer files?
13:27<October>scp I believe
13:28<petn-randall>October: How are internet download speeds on the Debian box?
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13:29<October>I'm using WinFTP Pro on Win box
13:29<October>I can run a test and see
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13:29<sussudio>October: try running speedtest-cli
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13:32<mendel_munkis>the third computer I tried booting debian live can talk to it
13:32<October>Download: 70.69 Mbit/s -- Upload: 10.50 Mbit/s
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13:33<sussudio>internet connection is fine, then.
13:34<October>it is just between my computers that it is insanely slow
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13:34<petn-randall>October: Does you URI you connect to start with scp:// or ssh:// ?
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13:34<October>I'm using WinFTP Pro on Win box... not sure.. but I told it to use scp
13:36<petn-randall>October: You probably want it to use sftp instead. scp is kind of deprecated.
13:36<October>ok
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13:39<October>can SSH do sftp?
13:40<mendel_munkis>huh setting and clearing the hardrive password fixed it
13:42<October>to rephrase... can SSH server do sftp protocol?
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13:44<sney>yes, sftp is part of openssh
13:44<October>cool
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13:49<NthDegree>you can also restrict openssh to only allow sftp for specific users too, as well as enable chroot to restrict what they can access with it
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13:52<imMute>October: FTP is FTP you know. FTPS is FTP plus a TLS wrapper layer (like HTTPS). sftp is a SSH specific thing and doesn't actually share anything with FTP other than the name (it's a totally different protocol)
13:52<petn-randall>this ^
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13:54<October>imMute: thx... was not sure about that
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14:47<humble>is anyone here familiar with the OS SEPTOR ?, and if so I need to ask a few questions
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14:48<imMute>humble: this is #debian, so probably no. and if yes, it's still off topic
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14:53<humble>ok, sorry, when I try a new distro I usually go to hexchat which takes me straight to the OS chatroom
14:53<Sqrt{not}>humble, septor is based on debian, so they probably just didn't modify the default
14:54<humble>and they don't have a wiki or documentation page, and weird text editor that I had to modify
14:55<Sqrt{not}>https://sourceforge.net/p/septor/wiki/Home/
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14:55<humble>i've tried all that and didn't get any kinda of direct info. but I will try it again
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14:55<humble>thanks
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14:57<Sqrt{not}>dpkg, septor is <reply>Septor is a linux variant based on Debian and TOR. It is not debian, and is not supported here. See https://sourceforge.net/p/septor/wiki/Home/
14:57<dpkg>Sqrt{not}: okay
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15:06<dpkg>Septor is a linux variant based on Debian and TOR. It is not debian, and is not supported here. See https://sourceforge.net/p/septor/wiki/Home/
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15:19<sychill>septor has no support channel on any IRC network, according to netsplit.de, so the best answers to septor questions would be in here
15:19<sney>wrong,
15:19<sney>!based on debian
15:19<dpkg>Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent.
15:20<sychill>lol, i didn't say "this is the official support channel"
15:20<sney>if they need a distro with tor tools, they can just use debian, and get all of the support they need here. but when some developer decides to fork debian and make their own distro, they also take responsibility for supporting their users.
15:20<sychill>this is the channel where someone would most likely know the answer
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15:21<sychill>right, that was my question.. what's the point of septor?
15:22<sney>it's probably just a blend with non-free enabled by default and a custom kernel. that's usually where the little derivatives start
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15:22<sney>hard to know for sure though, and harder still to know what extra special patches are included, and so on
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15:24<jhutchins>sychill: If you can reproduce the problem in a Debian Stable install, we can try to help you.
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15:25<sney>jhutchins: the actual septor user was humble, who left
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15:25<jhutchins>Yes, Checking the scroll again.
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15:38<sychill>i've noticed that #debian is always more intolerant of supporting debian-based foreign distros than #ubuntu. Which is fair enough, but perhaps ppl like humble should be referred to #ubuntu since they're more relaxed over there
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15:39<sychill>or perhaps there should be a ##debian-based for all non-debian non-ubuntu but debian-based distros, which tend to have no support channel
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15:40<jmcnaught>I think we tried a ##debian-based on old freenode but it didn't really catch on
15:40<blast007>or #linux here or Libera
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15:48<jhutchins>I think people might want to check for a support channel before they install any distro.
15:48<jhutchins>What could go wrong?
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15:49<sarnold>hah, yeah, I hung out in the various zfs channels for a year before using it myself, just to have a feeling for the problems people have
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15:50<SanchoPiensa>Hey guys!
15:50<SanchoPiensa>I just tried to install jitsi desktop from jitsi.org repository, but says 'unable to locate package jitsi'.
15:50<SanchoPiensa>So I downloaded the .deb from jitsi.org and installed it, which worked fine. But now the splash screen freezes stating 'nimbuzz avatars'
15:51<SanchoPiensa>Which appears to be a known issue, but I could so far not find a fix for it.
15:51<SanchoPiensa>Any ideas, please?
15:51<sussudio>frankendebian, etc.
15:52<sarnold>SanchoPiensa: does the application log anything anywhere? if so, check the logs, there might be hints there
15:52<mtnman>hello i am running debian on a beaglebone and trying to ssh -X into another linux box but cannot get X11 forwarding to work
15:52<sychill>jhutchins: indeed. People don't think that through, but it should be a deciding factor for distros. Linux Mint has recently jailed all their docs in Cloudflare's access restricted walled garden, so I no longer install Mint for novices (i wouldn't want to position them to need docs that are unreachable)
15:53<SanchoPiensa>sarnold: it does have a log directory in ~/.jitsi, it is empty, though...
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15:54<sney>jitsi is a java beast, isn't it? maybe your default-jre isn't on the supported list.
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15:54<mtnman>in the remote box i have edited /etc/ssh/sshd_config to set "X11Forwarding yes"
15:55<mtnman>but cannot run X11 apps over the network. client application complains it cannot connect to xserver
15:55<sussudio>is it really running debian, though.
15:56<mtnman>any ideas?
15:56<imMute>mtnman: client side has to ask for it as well.
15:56<imMute>mtnman: the sshd_config option merely allows it
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15:56<mtnman>doesnt ssh -X ask for it?
15:57<sussudio>beaglebone seems to be some off-brand raspberry pi thing
15:57<mtnman>or do i need to edit ssh_config in client box?
15:57<sarnold>SanchoPiensa: is there a system service component?
15:57<SanchoPiensa>ok. I just straced it, and I get a ton of errors: org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unable to resolve net.java.sip.communicator.[about a hundred modules]
15:57<mtnman>sussudio: not exactly
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15:57<imMute>mtnman: yes, that should do it
15:57<SanchoPiensa>sarnold: It appears to be a Java problem.
15:58<imMute>sussudio: it's an ARM SoC devkit. there are *thousands* of them. RPis are just the popular ones
15:58<sarnold>SanchoPiensa: ugh. good luck :)
15:58<mtnman>imMute: ok i will check ssh_config in BBB
15:58<imMute>sussudio: literally the only thing that sets RPi apart from the rest is 1) popularity 2) cost.
15:58<imMute>mtnman: did you restart the SSH server after making the change?
15:58<SanchoPiensa>sarnold: :D
15:58<SanchoPiensa>luck has nothing to do with it!
15:58<imMute>mtnman: sorry, I meant the -X should be enough and you don't need to modify teh ssh_config on the client.
15:58<mtnman> imMute: well i restarted the machine
15:59<imMute>mtnman: is your beaglebone running an X11 server? what does 'echo $DISPLAY' output before running the ssh -X command?
15:59<SanchoPiensa>can I run several Java versions concurrently? I just found a help thread stating, that this client version needs Java 8.
15:59<SanchoPiensa>I do, however, have openjdk version "11.0.11" 2021-04-20 installed
16:02<Linux-Fan>SanchoPiensa: AFAIK you can install Java 8 and 11 alongside each other, but: Debian stable does not have Debian 8 anymore.
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16:02<SanchoPiensa>Linux-Fan: d'aaah... Thanks, very much appreciated!
16:03<SanchoPiensa>I guess, I will go on using my Firefox, then...
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16:07<Goldman>hi there!
16:07<Goldman>does anybody know if debian installs a system restore / snapshot utility by default on a fresh install?
16:07<mtnman>yes X is running on beagle. display is set to :0.0 before sshing
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16:08<quadrat>Goldman it doesn't
16:08<Goldman>oh damn. thanks :(
16:08<mtnman>imMute: yes X is running on beagle. display is set to :0.0 before sshing
16:09<Goldman>after a few days of uptime my laptop thrashes the HDD so hard that i can't even move the mouse. This lasts over 24hours and i don't know why
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16:10<imMute>mtnman: okay, that part looks fine. after doing the SSH, what does 'echo $DISPLAY' output?
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16:10<mtnman>localhost:10.0 on remote machine
16:11<imMute>hmm. so the X11 stuff is getting forwarded. maybe it's a permissions issue with the X connection...
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16:11<mtnman>when i open apps i get a msg "cannot open display: localhost:10.0
16:12<sarnold>Goldman: the usual cause of that kind of behaviour is memory pressure -- watch slabtop output over time, see if any kernel slabs just keep growing without bound.. check vmstat 1 output, and see if you're constantly swapping, etc
16:13<jhutchins>Goldman: It could be swapping, or somebody might be mining bitcoin on you.
16:13<jhutchins>Goldman: Need to run tools like top and ps -aux to see what's going on.
16:13<Goldman>thanks for the suggestions
16:14<Goldman>the only software i have installed after a fresh install (minimal then KDE) is Firefox
16:15<Goldman>i guess i need to wait it out until it finishes doing what ever it is doing?
16:16<jhutchins>Goldman: Ideally try to catch it in the act.
16:17<Goldman>makes sense. the problem is that the laptop is unresponsive. the clock does not even update
16:17<sarnold>yeah best to get these things running *before* it happens, so once it happens, you can see it :)
16:17<mtnman>what might be preventing apps on remote machines do display X11 on local machine?
16:17<mtnman>to display...
16:17<jhutchins>mtnman: Default sshd config.
16:18<mtnman>jhutchins: remote machine has sshd_config "X11Forwarding yes"
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16:18<jhutchins>mtnman: Ok, you have to do it on the client as well.
16:19<imMute>jhutchins: the client ssh_config needs X11Forwarding yes too???
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16:19<jhutchins>I can't remember off the top of my head if imMute I think so, I know I have something that always enables it.
16:19<Goldman>thanks for your time guys
16:19<jhutchins>imMute: What are you trying to forward?
16:20<jhutchins>Goldman: Can you switch to a console?
16:20<Goldman>jhutchins: no
16:21<jhutchins>Goldman: Might want smartmontools to watch the disk performance.
16:21<jhutchins>Goldman: Could be a hardware problem.
16:21<Goldman>RAM?
16:21<imMute>jhutchins: mtnman is the one with the forwarding problem.
16:22<jhutchins>Goldman: It could be, if you're trying to use a LOT more than you have.
16:22<mtnman>ok i set X11Forward yes on local machine. do i need to restart sshd?
16:22<mtnman>jhutchins: ^^^
16:23<jhutchins>mtnman: Yes
16:23<jmcnaught>"X11Forwarding yes" is default in /etc/ssh/sshd_config no?
16:23<mtnman>jmcnaught: wasn't on this box
16:24<jhutchins>mtnman: "On the client side, the -X (capital X) option to ssh enables X11 forwarding, and you can make this the default (for all connections or for a specific connection) with ForwardX11 yes in ~/.ssh/config."
16:24<mtnman>ok i will lose this irc session when i restart sshd
16:25<sarnold>you shouldn't
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16:25<sarnold>restarting the daemon shouldn't affect currently-running sessions
16:25<mtnman>ok
16:25<mtnman>did not lose this session
16:26<jhutchins>mtnman: I usually use xclock to test.
16:26<mtnman>but X apps on remote machine still cannot open display on local machine
16:27<mtnman>xclock is not available on remote machine i am testing with transmission-gtk
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16:31<mtnman>transmission-gtk fails to open complaining it cannot open display
16:32<sarnold>try 'simpler' x clients like xeyes or xterm, they may give an error message saying why
16:32<jhutchins>mtnman: Some programs won't forward. Calibre, a book manager written in Python, won't forward.
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16:33<mtnman>jhutchins: the target here is to get firefox working
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16:35<mtnman>ok installed xeyes on remote box and can get it to display on local machine
16:35<mtnman>but transmission-gtk and firefox fail to open
16:35<jhutchins>mtnman: Do they log why?
16:35<mtnman>which log file should i inspect?
16:36<mtnman>xsesson.errors?
16:37<jhutchins>mtnman: I don't know. I would expect the console to display something when you launch them.
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16:38<mtnman>Gtk warning that it cannot open display: localhost:10.0
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16:41<selam>hello there
16:41<sarnold>pong
16:41<selam>is there anayone
16:41<selam>i have a question
16:41<selam>----------
16:41<imMute>!give selam ask
16:41*dpkg gives selam ask
16:42*imMute *eyeroll*
16:42<R2robot>lol
16:42<selam>am i have to disable javascript while surfing tor with whonix
16:43<selam>guys?
16:43<jhutchins>mtnman: Do you get the same error for both programs?
16:43<mtnman>output from xeyes is now forwarding ok but firefox fails
16:44<selam>!give hello
16:44<selam>does anyone hear me?
16:44<selam>fkk
16:44<imMute>selam: yes, we hear you. ask your actual question please.
16:44<mtnman>jhutchins: from firefox and transmission-gtk?
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16:45<jhutchins>mtnman: That's what I'm asking.
16:45<Lucilio>jkkk
16:45<Lucilio>hi
16:45<mtnman>the answer is yes
16:45<selam>imMute my question is am i have to disable javascript while surfing on tor with whonix.can this be dangerous?
16:46<mtnman>same message. gtk cannot open display: localhost:10.0
16:46<imMute>selam: IDK. I don't know about tor.
16:46<selam>thanks so
16:46<jmcnaught>selam: try the #whonix channel
16:46<jhutchins>Getting a gtk error, cannot open display: localhost:10.0
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16:47<Linux-Fan>selam: If you have scripts enabled, tracking code can run and track your journey even across the TOR network. Hence for maximum security, disable JS. It might not be possible for all sites, though. Then, you need to decide between privacy and functionality...
16:47<mtnman>jhutchins: yes
16:48<jhutchins>mtnman: Sorry, that was an oops.
16:48<selam>linux fan thanks for reply.they can track me but they cant find my actual ip right?
16:48<mtnman>ok but is accurate
16:49<jhutchins>mtnman: So forwarding works, but these two programs don't. I expect that something in the code, possibly the gtk code, is breaking it.
16:49<jhutchins>mtnman: You would have to try to get help from transmission or firefox.
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16:50<mtnman>jhutchins: strange i have forwarded these two apps between other linux boxes
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16:50<jhutchins>mtnman: Figure out what the difference is then.
16:51<Linux-Fan>selam: Yes, the IP will stay hidden. Depending on what you do, tracking information can identify you, though. Also, in the past some techniques would allow an adversary to gather information from your local network by means of scripts on pages e.g. try to load an image from a common router address and then use script to check if it succeeded.
16:51<mtnman>jhutchins: i assume it is a gtk warning from remote box
16:51<mtnman>jhutchins: remote box is pinephone and its a little weird
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16:52<selam>thanks linux fan helped a lot
16:52<Linux-Fan>selam: You're welcome. Next time ask in #debian-offtopic or any channel more related to the issue; this is really the Debian support here :)
16:53<jmcnaught>#debian-offtopic is not a support channel.
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16:54<Linux-Fan>Then I would not know where to redirect to. Thanks for the clarification
16:55<jmcnaught>!whonix
16:55<dpkg>Whonix is a Linux distribution based on Debian, distributed as two virtual machine images. It is not supported in #debian; ask me about <based on debian>. http://whonix.org/ #whonix on irc.oftc.net. If you are new to linux try Debian instead: https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian
16:55<jmcnaught>Or for distros without an IRC channel there is #linux on OFTC or irc.libera.chat
16:55<Linux-Fan>selam: That means the correct location to ask would be `#whonix` on OFTC which happens to be the same network.
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17:09<jhutchins>mtnman: Only thing I can suggest is use a differernt torrent client.
17:09<jhutchins>... and probably a different (non GTK) browser.
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17:11<jmcnaught>mtnman: does the Pinephone use Wayland?
17:12<mtnman>jmcnaught: yes pinephone uses wayland
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17:13<mtnman>turns out "export GDK_BACKEND=x11" did the trick
17:13<jmcnaught>mtnman: you are trying to execute apps on the phone but display to an X server on your desktop? Or the other way around?
17:13<sarnold>mtnman: woot!
17:13<jmcnaught>Oh sounds like you got it
17:13<mtnman>jmcnaught: yes thanks for your help
17:14<mtnman>jmcnaught: yes displaying apps running on pinephone to pc
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17:43<jhutchins>Wonder where he found his answer.
17:43<ArsenArsen>hey I have a slight issue, arm smmu on one of the servers I'm administering is blocking access to the root filesystem: ``[ 8.474355] arm-smmu arm-smmu.1.auto: Blocked unknown Stream ID 0x800; boot with "arm-smmu.disable_bypass=0" to allow, but this may have security implications''
17:43<ArsenArsen>that option fixes the boot process, but I don't want to enable bypassing this, so I'd like to figure out where the kernel gets stream ids from to check why it fails to understand this stream
17:44<jhutchins>ArsenArsen: What distro do you have on it?
17:44<ArsenArsen>disclaimer: I have no knowledge about ARM internals or virtualization tech or iommus, so take it slow with me :P
17:44<ArsenArsen>debian buser
17:44<ArsenArsen>buster*
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17:47<jhutchins>!arm
17:47<dpkg>Advanced RISC Machine (ARM) is a processor architecture. The Debian arm port was deprecated at 5.0 "Lenny" with official support dropped at 6.0 "Squeeze", ask me about <armel> for the replacement port. See also <armhf>. http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ For help with Debian on ARM systems, join #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net.
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17:48<ArsenArsen>ah, there's a dedicated channel, thank you
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19:34<h3ndr1k>Hey, our buster router currently seems to cause packet loss in a 30s pattern. this is from mtr: https://www.paste.sh/hrnHwaTp#6VN9GW-F4DI_juWC9XiAlODm
19:34<h3ndr1k>Does anyone recognise this pattern and knows exactly what to look out for? 'ip -s -s link show' shows no increase in rx errors on the fiber ports and the port this happens on currently has only ~500mbit/s ~40.000p/s in and 30mbit/s 20.000p/s out. Intel 82599ES 10G-NIC, 2x Intel E5-2660 v4 CPU.
19:34<h3ndr1k>Just a shot in the dark, i'm a bit lost, maybe someone recognises this 'pattern'.
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19:35<sarnold>well that's wild
19:38<h3ndr1k>I already setup smokeping on 3 nodes across the network, with which I could pinpoint it to the router. Traffic that only passes switches is not affected. The transceivers and cables to this router were cleaned with fiber cleaning equipment, so that is very unlikely too.
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19:40<somiaj>h3ndr1k: can you trace when this started occuring, maybe see if there was any upgrades at that time (maybe some regression issue with a kernel security fix?)
19:40<somiaj>h3ndr1k: here I'm assuming the buster router use to work until something changed.
19:41<h3ndr1k>I will search through smokeping, one of the nodes is actually running longer than this is occuring.
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19:42<somiaj>you can use /var/log/apt/history.log to see which packages have been upgraded. Though I would look at kernel or maybe iptables/ntables upgrades.
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19:44<h3ndr1k>well it seems that the old graph data got lost in some smokeping upgrade within the last weeks.
19:44<somiaj>the last kernel update was feb 01, from a DSA (also point releases bring in new kernels). If you have older kernels still aviable on the router you could just try an older kernel and see if that works.
19:45<somiaj>though I assume this is more recent, a point release of 10.10 on june 19th could have also bought in a newer kernel or other packages that could have caused the issue
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19:49<somiaj>In the new kernel that came with the 10.10 point release, I see mention of nftables fixes, so I would at least try previous kernels and see if that helps at all, if so you have found a regression.
19:49<h3ndr1k>There is 4.19.0-14,16,17 available. I will try those in the next days. I can't have another outage today, a few hours ago we involuntarily discovered that you need dont_track_primary in keepalived when using a dedicated link between routers...
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20:00<h3ndr1k>somiaj: Oh god, I might have found it. But does this explain the consistent 30s loss interval?
20:00<h3ndr1k># cat /proc/sys/net/netfilter/nf_conntrack_count
20:00<h3ndr1k>262060
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20:01<sarnold>h3ndr1k: oh hey, that looks very likely
20:02<abrotman>should tell you in /var/log/messages
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20:05<h3ndr1k>There are some messages about conntrack yes, but I did not see them. Somehow shorewall is spamming there, I didn't configure that. But there is not one log entry every 30s.
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20:16<somiaj>h3ndr1k: are the nf_conntrack_tcp_timeout_* set to 30 seconds?
20:17<h3ndr1k>I just learned about these variables. established is 5 days which is absolutely ridiculous.
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20:17<somiaj>h3ndr1k: though one google hit I found says you should be seeing 'CRITICAL net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_count = .... (greater than max)'
20:17<somiaj>in your syslog
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20:19<h3ndr1k>not seeing that. only "nf_conntrack: nf_conntrack: table full, dropping packet" Unfortunately I did not find that, as there is quite some spam in there
20:20<h3ndr1k>I just raised max from 2^18 to 2^20
20:20<somiaj>I saw a warning about that, conntrack can slow things down if that is an issue.
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20:21<somiaj>"Please note that conntrack in itself is not designed to be fast and growing it’s tables will mean more lookups and possible slowdowns in connections tracking."
20:21<abrotman>do you actually need conntrack ?
20:21<abrotman>is this a server or workstation?
20:21<somiaj>abrotman: a router
20:21<abrotman>oh lovely ..
20:22<abrotman>that seems like a bad place to run out of conntrack slots
20:22<somiaj>I would also suggest trying a networking channel, maybe you can get better details on how to better configure those variables to keep things running smoothly. Thougn not sure where ##networking moved to
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20:23<abrotman>I'd probably let it run with that change, see if the same situation occurs
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20:26<h3ndr1k>more load on that router would be fine. 28 cores, 16GB ram and 4x 10G Ports want to get used :)
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20:27<abrotman>If you have 16GB of RAM, you can probably increase your conntrack table quite a bit. I'd imagine it's mostly empty?
20:28<abrotman>I can't recall if there's a speed impact for having an extremely large table, but with 28 cores, you may not notice
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20:32<h3ndr1k>well this does not seem to be the solution. still these packet drops every 30s. :(
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20:32<somiaj>h3ndr1k: did your table increase to near max again?
20:33<h3ndr1k>no, it's now 260.553/1.048.576
20:33<Sqrt{not}>#networking, with only 1 '#' , has 677 users on libera
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20:36<h3ndr1k>I think I will go to networking tomorrow
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20:41<abrotman>h3ndr1k: there's nothing showing inyour var/log/messages suggesting it may be interfering?
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20:44<h3ndr1k>nothing that correlates to the 30s interval
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20:45<abrotman>anything else on the system pause? like disk IO?
20:46<abrotman>if you use something like jnettop, you can see networking just stop?
20:46<h3ndr1k>how would i monitor that?
20:46<abrotman>you can use iotop to monitor disk IO
20:46<abrotman>htop/atop are tools also
20:48<h3ndr1k>htop's update rate might be too low, as the loss only occurs for about 1 second every 30 seconds.
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20:58<h3ndr1k>yeah these tools are not good for diagnosing this, the loss is just too short. It is especially annoying in audio chats. Half sentences just disappear. Altough jnettop is quite nice.
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21:08<alex_>what language is dpkg/apt written in?
21:09<abrotman>I'd imagine C
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21:10<sarnold>alex_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rfTHvn7xD8/ mostly C, C++
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21:22<sirmanuel>hi guys
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21:25<X3r0>now that kernel 5.13 has M1 support is it reasonable to assume Debian Bullseye will also be supported on the M1 devices?
21:25<sirmanuel>someone can help with an Bluetooth issue?
21:25<dvs>X3r0: no because it won't come with the 5.13 kernel
21:25<sarnold>X3r0: see if the keyboard or mouse or video work before spending any money on it..
21:25<X3r0>dvs: right, but won't it be upgradable to 5.13 ?
21:26<dvs>X3r0: if someone backports it.
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21:26<bremner>installing with a backports kernel can be a bit tricky
21:26<X3r0>I mean I don't wanna have to wait 2 more whole years just to run Linux on an M1
21:27<X3r0>bremner: trickier than Sid?
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21:27<bremner>X3r0: typically people use the stable installer for sid, so yeah
21:27<dvs>X3r0: you won't have to wait two years to run Linux, just Debian.
21:27<Sqrt{not}>sirmanuel, what is your issue?
21:27<X3r0>bremner: and will 5.13 still be backport once bullseye is finally released?
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21:28<abrotman>problem is you'd need an installer with that kernel, no?
21:28<bremner>yeah
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21:28<X3r0>dvs: for all intents and purposes Debian IS Linux for Me*
21:28<bremner>you could potentially use the bullseye+1 installer
21:28<bremner>eventually
21:28<sirmanuel>Sqrt{not} sometimes it does not connect and says the conections has failed
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21:29<bremner>well, such are the trials of buying apple hardware to run linux I guess
21:29<X3r0>bremner: I didn't buy apple hardware to run Linux, it just is serendipidous
21:30<X3r0>bremner: btw, no trials with Apple Intel hardware
21:30<bremner>X3r0: right, my remark was gratitous, ignore the snark
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21:32<X3r0>abrotman: it's my understanding you can compile the kernel by hand ;)
21:34<X3r0>bremner: what's this "bullseye+1" installer you speak of ?
21:34<sarnold>whatever follows bullseye
21:35<X3r0>Hey sarnold long time no see; it's me CyberManifest ;)
21:35<sarnold>oh :) hey X3r0 :)
21:36<X3r0>I've been trying to patiently wait for Bullseye, and have taken a sabatical from Linux till then; it freezes on the 17th, right?
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21:37<abrotman>X3r0: yes, but you have to get it into the installer
21:38<abrotman>(which is doable)
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21:38<Sqrt{not}>sirmanuel, any pattern in when it does or does not connect? Any more detail in the failure messages? Any info in the logs?
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21:39<sirmanuel>how can i see the log for that?
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21:49<truth3>https://security.googleblog.com/2021/07/measuring-security-risks-in-open-source.html
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21:50<Sqrt{not}>sirmanuel, what kind of bluetooth device[s] are we talking about? Speaker? keyboard? mouse? something else?
21:50<sarnold>Sqrt{not}: heh, twelve sdeconds too late
21:50<Sqrt{not}>heh, must learn to type faster
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22:27<despairecall>hello you all
22:27<despairecall>i hope everything is fine for y'all
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22:31<despairecall>i am quite sure maybe this might not be the best place to ask this
22:31<tizef>despairecall, yes, please
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22:31<despairecall>but can you guys help me? https://lemmy.ml/post/72142
22:32<despairecall>i would really like to ask debian experts in packaging if was possible to have a virtual boy advance gui for linux in appimages
22:33<tizef>without installing anything ?
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22:35<tizef>am going to job, have to quit, anyway many ways to play GBA, but without installing anything ?
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22:37<despairecall>if you use other social-medias helping spreading the word is very much appreciated
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22:46<despairecall>tizef in my case appimages really solve most of the my issues hence i humbly ask for help.
22:47<sarnold>despairecall: tizef left 12 minutes ago
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22:47<despairecall>oh im still navigating all this... first time using irc.
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22:48<sarnold>ah :) welcome
22:49<sarnold>most clients let you use 'tab' to complete a nickname, eg sar<tab> completes to sarnold -- this is sometimes handy for spotting when people leave. it's also an easy way to highlight the wrong person by accident :) hehe
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22:50<despairecall>thank you
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23:08<Guest155>noob here
23:08<Guest155>hi
23:08<sney>hi
23:08<Guest155>hyow are you?
23:09<sney>I'm ok, do you have a debian question?
23:09<Guest155>nope
23:09<Guest155>just bouncing around learning this.
23:09<dvs>get 'em!
23:09<sney>!new2irc
23:09<dpkg>You are chatting on IRC. IRC is the original group chat. Similar to platforms like Slack, Matrix, or Discord, IRC was invented in the 1980s and formalized with RFC 1459 in 1993. This channel, #debian, is for help with the debian operating system. Ask us a debian support question, or read more about IRC at https://netsplit.de or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC
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23:12<Guest155>anything cool about using this os? i just surf the net and listen to youtube vids. what do you guys do thats fun on a linux os?
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23:17<despairecall>idk what you call fun but you can play games on linux {somewhat}
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23:20<sney>it's a collection of tools for using a computer. I use debian the same way some people use windows or osx: I write stuff, play games sometimes, use a browser a lot, etc.
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23:21<sney>because it's a collection of tools instead of 1 monolithic software suite, you have a lot of flexibility in setting it up and customizing stuff. but once you've done that, it's really just for using the computer lol
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23:23<Guest155>got you. i mostly browse the web and youtube
23:24<Guest155>anyone use whonix?
23:24<sney>this is #debian, which is for debian users. not random other linux distros
23:25<metreo>we are serious ppl in here!
23:25<Sqrt{not}>those whonix users all moved to Phoenix
23:25<Guest155>arizona?
23:25<despairecall>lol
23:26<despairecall>bye y'all
23:26<despairecall>i made my pledge. if anybody can help: https://lemmy.ml/post/72142
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23:28<Guest155>how do i check out other rooms?
23:28<sney>you can search for irc channels and networks at https://netsplit.de/
23:29<Sqrt{not}>!chat
23:29<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic or #moocows; or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/
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