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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-07-08

---Logopened Thu Jul 08 00:00:01 2021
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01:54<prem>hi all
01:54-!-ax56234 [~NickServ@0002affd.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
01:54<prem>how can i define user based application / program control in stretch ?
01:55<prem>i want to allow a user to run only specific set of commands and block everything else..
01:55<prem>tried with rbash / lbash / sudoers entries..but it all works only on terminal level
01:55<prem>is there any systematic way to achieve it
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01:55-!-jm_ is "." on #debian
01:55<prem>any suggestions pls..
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04:49<FelixActually>I presume this question has been asked before, but what's going to be done about Audacity?
04:49<FelixActually>Will one of the forks be packaged for Debian?
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04:51<Nemoder>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=990737
04:51<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/990737 in audacity (open, upstream): «Audacity's new privacy policy may need to be addressed»; severity: important; opened: 2021-07-05; last modified: 2021-07-06.
04:53<FelixActually>Nemoder: So the current intention is not to use a fork but simply to disable the code?
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04:54<ratrace>Why fork if you can disable the code
04:54<Nemoder>seems so, unless the code goes against DFSG then it will be removed or a different upstream used
04:55<FelixActually>I suppose that's fine then? Presumably if it's removed or disabled and thoroughly checked it won't be a threat?
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06:25<netcrash>Hello, I have a LSI 9240 8i megaraid controller , on debian install how can I load the driver for this? Disks are not being detected.
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06:43<mrckndt>netcrash i haven't touched such hardware in a while but i think you can use the firmware iso which should include the firmware for such controllers
06:44<mrckndt>this for example https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.10.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/
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06:48<mrckndt>maybe i'm mixing things up. I had to solve several issue with enterprise hardware in past
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06:57<netcrash>mrckndt: ok, will try
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06:59<grove>netcrash: That card should be supported right out of te box. I have a 9300 8i in a box and Debian just found the discs on that
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07:11<netcrash>grove: Does not find the disks, can it be because there is a JBOD RAid ?
07:12<netcrash>using the firmware CD of debian also does not find scsi/scsi_firmware.bin
07:12<netcrash>had to download it separated
07:13<terr>What card?
07:14<blast007>"< netcrash> Hello, I have a LSI 9240 8i megaraid controller"
07:16<terr>That is one I have not heard of
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07:17<bremner>does it have a dell / HP / whatever partnumber? some of these controllers are sold only by one manufacturer
07:17<netcrash>Supermicro , have to check
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07:29<bremner>netcrash: did you configure the drives in the BIOS? at least in my limited experience with megaraid controllers, I had to get everything set up before booting, then it was transparent. So in particular initializing raid groups
07:29<netcrash>what would be the module for this?
07:29<Anarka>megaraid_sas ?
07:29<bremner>yeah, I think so
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07:30<netcrash>bremner: This system was already setup with raid using openindiana
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07:40<mrckndt>netcrash, it can be because of the JBOD raid. Do you want to setup software raid? Otherwise it's like bremner said; i had to assemble the arrays in the bios of the raid controller and afterwards the controller exports it as blockdevice
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07:46<emilioj>Hi there!
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07:48<emilioj>I am trying to create a python3.8 or python3.7 venv in Debian Sid with no success... (I need to test previous releases of tensorflow)
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07:49<emilioj>I am stuck with this issue: The virtual environment was not created successfully because ensurepip is not
07:49<emilioj>available. On Debian/Ubuntu systems, you need to install the python3-venv
07:49<emilioj>package using the following command.
07:49<emilioj>apt-get install python3-venv
07:50<jm_>if you're using sid try #debian-next
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07:50<alex_flY>I switched today to debian bullseye. Everything seems to work correctly, expect suspend and kwin got problems and the display keeps black
07:50<emilioj>Okis, thanks jm_
07:51<alex_flY>only way to get the screen back is to switch to tty1 and back to tty7
07:51<alex_flY>I am using nvidia gtx 1060 with nvidia prop. driver because of TF and cuda
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08:13<rGr45>Anyone using Deb 10.9 cinnamon in Virtualbox? after first updating/reboot system(guest additions was working) I get "VBoxClient: Failed to register resizing support, rc=VER_INVALID_FUNCTION" and "VBoxClient: Failed to get display change request, rc=VERR_ACCESS_DENIED, already tried to switching the display to controller to VMSVGA, without success
08:13<rGr45>*VB6.1
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08:18<phlax> /msg NickServ REGISTER pw0rD2323 ryan@synca.io
08:19<bremner> oops
08:19<phlax>yep
08:19<phlax>grrr
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08:19<bremner>the rustic imperfections of this communication medium are part of it's natural charm
08:19<phlax>lucky the password was throwaway for that reason
08:19<bremner>oh, wait, maybe that's blue jeans
08:19<phlax>how to register acc on oftc ?
08:20<bremner>/msg nickserv help
08:20<phlax>maybe i dont want an acc after all 8(
08:20<bremner>should be simple enough. #oftc is there for help with the network
08:20<phlax>maybe it was a whitespace problem
08:20<phlax>not sure why it posted my command
08:20<phlax>anyhoo
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08:21<bremner>yeah. no space before /msg
08:21<phlax>8/
08:21<bremner>same for all IRC commands
08:21<quadrat>that's why use those commands in the server tab
08:21*phlax shakes head
08:21<bremner>or in /query nickserv
08:21<phlax>moving on..
08:21<phlax>can anyone tell me if its possible to debsign a .changes file without .dsc ?
08:22<bremner>depends if the .changes file refers to a dsc
08:22<bremner>also, #packaging might give you better answers for packaging questions.
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08:26<phlax>thanks - it doesnt so should work i think - ill ask anything further in #packaging
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09:21<alex_flY>i have no usb audio. my headset does not work. could somebody help??
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09:22<bremner>did it work before?
09:26<Fraggle2>alex_flY: check for the device with lsusb, check syslog for it
09:26<Fraggle2>example: http://paste.debian.net/1203792/
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09:30<alex_flY>Fraggle2: it was my monitor usb hub. does not work. have u an idea how to fix kwin and suspend? got really problems on bullseye. My mistake to upgrade
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09:32<Fraggle2>testing => #debian-next.
09:33<alex_flY>bremner: everythink was fine before debian bullseye
09:34<bremner>OK, so then follow Fraggle2's advice about switching to #debian-next and figuring out what your hardware is
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10:01<judd>No package named 'wine32' was found in amd64.
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10:02<quadrat>,v --arch i386 wine32
10:02<judd>No package named '--arch' was found in i386.
10:02<quadrat>,v wine32 --arch i386
10:02<judd>Package: wine32 on i386 -- jessie: 1.6.2-20; stretch: 1.8.7-2; stretch-backports: 4.0-2~bpo9+1; buster: 4.0-2; bullseye: 5.0.3-3; sid: 5.0.3-3
10:02<sychill>ah, thanks
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10:33<netcrash>Can it be because the disks are in Jbod array? The driver is correct acording to the debian page
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10:34<bremner>well, if you expect linux soft-raid to understand openindiana metadata, that sounds unlikely to work
10:35<netcrash>In testing enviroment I had Success
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12:12<netcrash>megaraid sas LSI 9240 8i , several drivers tested, just doesn't work. Any sugestions?
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12:17<doubletwist->So what are the caveats of disabling feature-pinning for apparmor? As an alternative to just uninstalling or disabling apparmor altogether which is the recommended 'fix' by Proxmox Mail Gateway
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12:34<NthDegree>doubletwist-, as in ABI feature pinning?
12:35<NthDegree>doubletwist-, you could end up with policies which are more restrictive than expected because it doesn't know if you want deny anything not listed in the policy or not
12:36<NthDegree>Here's the upstream documentation on it: https://gitlab.com/apparmor/apparmor/-/wikis/AppArmor2FeatureABI#pinning
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12:41<doubletwist->NthDegree: not sure. the proxmox docs suggest commenting out the "features-file=/usr/share/apparmor-features/features" line in parser.conf (as an alternative to their preferred suggestion of just removing the apparmor package
12:42<doubletwist->Given that this is internet facing, MY preference is not to disable it completely. I'll take a look at the doc you linked
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12:46<doubletwist->Thanks. Based on my imperfect understanding of that doc - I think I'm safer disabling pinning than disabling apparmor completely. Likely any issues it causes will show up in our dev/test instance fore it gets to prod.
12:47<NthDegree>yeah, it'll likely make things too restrictive (if anything) rather than weakening security
12:47<doubletwist->maybe later on as time permits I can find the time to figure out what ABI would work with the Proxmox kernel and pin it to that
12:48<doubletwist->I think if you just use their appliance version they just disable apparmor completely :/
12:48<NthDegree>I don't know if Proxmox supports SELinux but Debian does, so that's another options
12:48<NthDegree>option*
12:48<doubletwist->Doubtful
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12:49<doubletwist->Thanks again for your help
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12:51<doubletwist->Given that even most software on RHEL-based distros don't even want to support SELinux.
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13:13<netcrash>MegaCli64 -cfgDsply -aAll showed nothing , sg_map -x also shows no disks except the usb disks connected
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13:19<sychill>tricky thing with the rename pkg. I forgot what the pkg was called, so I did "apt-file search bin/rename". It found nothing. I guessed that it had its own package and installed it. Then when I do "dpkg -L rename" it shows no /usr/bin/rename file. Yet that file is present. The sneaky thing here is that the installer apparently autogenerates that file from other sources.
13:19<sychill>so little annoying that "apt-file search bin/$tool" can't be relied on
13:21<imMute>sychill: there's no rename file provided by apt that sits in a bin directory...
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13:22<imMute>oh wait. the "rename" package sets up an alternative for /usr/bin/rename.
13:22<sychill>"aptitude install rename" ultimately provided me with "/usr/bin/rename". Apt just didn't know it
13:23<imMute>so yeah, things that use the alternatives mechanism won't show up in file listings.
13:23<imMute>because it's not a file installed by apt.
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13:41<cheako>btrfs multidevice fix for desktop environments: https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/pkg-utopia-maintainers/2021-July/029590.html
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14:35<alex_flY>i dont get any help in debian-next concerning my suspend problems and kwin crashes.
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14:40<sarnold>be sure to stick around a while
14:41<sarnold>people come and go, and may only see your questions / error messages / logs an hour or two later
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14:41<sney>there is no question in the last 24h in the scrollback either
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14:46<grove>Then you're in the wrong channel. The last activity in #debian-next is 2-3 hours ago
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14:47<sney>I mean specifically from that user
14:47<grove>Ohh, then you might be right
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16:49<jhutchins>alex11: The "standards" for suspend/hibernate are not well established, and different manufacturers implement them in their own way, which makes it very hard to track with standard linux packages.
16:49<alex11>wrong ping
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16:50<jhutchins>alex11: Yeah, sorry.
16:51<jhutchins>alex_flY: The "standards" for suspend/hibernate are not well established, and different manufacturers implement them in their own way, which makes it very hard to track with standard linux packages.
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16:52<jhutchins>alex_flY: Linux developers have to reverse-engineer the system, then try to build a uniform mechanism that will work across the varied hardware.
16:52<acidsys>Hi, does someone happen to have a Debian install with firewalld on hand? I need to know which ExecRestart= parameter the package ships with in the systemd unit file and I cannot find my way around https://sources.debian.org/src/firewalld/0.9.3-2/. Would appreciate if someone could have a quick glance in their install.
16:53<acidsys>sorry, I mean ExecReload=
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16:54<jmcnaught>acidsys: seems to be "ExecReload=/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID"
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16:54<acidsys>jmcnaught: cool thank you so much!!
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17:05<vv221>acidsys, I think this is the original file you were looking for: https://sources.debian.org/src/firewalld/0.9.3-2/config/firewalld.service.in/
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17:07<acidsys>vv221: oh perfect! thank you very much. I never looked into the aptitude before so got a bit lost in the directory jungle
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17:26<istrive>I have this line inside the bash script, but it is returnig as invalid command, how to parse the result of the command to a variable?
17:26<istrive>vmstatus=VBoxManage showvminfo $1 | sed -n 's/^State: *\(.*off\) (.*)/State: \1/p'
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17:27<istrive>when I run the command in the terminal it works fine but the variable is always empty
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17:27<sarnold>istrive: try vmstatus=$(VBoxManage showvminfo $1 | sed -n 's/^State: *\(.*off\) (.*)/State: \1/p')
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17:31<ndorf>i tried using the PulseAudio equalizer on a USB audio output device, and was surprised to find that the output is at a much lower volume even with all the EQ sliders set at +0. does anyone know what's going on here?
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17:31<istrive>still no go
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17:33<sarnold>istrive: try executing your script with bash -x .. it's often helpful for debuging
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17:36<istrive>funny that the result was as expected with bash -x!
17:36<sarnold>are you using sh or dash to execute your script normally?
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17:37<istrive>sh
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17:41<ndorf>istrive: what about sh -x then?
17:41<jhutchins>istrive: There is a bash guru on libera#debian who might be able to help you.
17:43<jhutchins>istrive: His nick is greycat. Be very polite with him.
17:43<jhujhiti>$() works in bourne shell. some more context around how it's used might be the key to understand what's going on. bourne shells are full of pitfalls
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17:44<bremner>as opposed other other shells? all shells are full of pitfalls.
17:45<istrive>the encapsulation worked to generate the variable as recommended $(), now if I try to check if the variable was set (is not empty) with if [ -z $vmstatus ] it is not working as the result is always empty
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17:45<ndorf>istrive: are you able to share the entire script with us?
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17:48<ndorf>you can use paste.debian.net if so
17:49<istrive>here is it https://pastebin.com/7czQQku6
17:49<ndorf>i think you just have your condition inverted?
17:50<jhujhiti>yeah you're looking for -n
17:50<ndorf>-z is true if the argument *is* empty. you want -n
17:50<istrive>what you mean?
17:50<istrive>so it show be ! -z right?
17:50<ndorf>or -n
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17:51<ndorf>either way, i think you also need to quote the variable name like "$chkvms"
17:51<jhujhiti>you also don't need the sed. just use something like grep -Eq '^State:\s*off\W'
17:52<jhujhiti>and check the return status instead of doing string comparison
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17:53<jhujhiti>if VBoxManage showvminfo $1 | grep -Eq '^State:\s*off\W'; then echo 'vm is off'; fi
17:53<istrive>that was it! it's working now!
17:54<istrive>thank you for the help
17:54<ndorf>yay!
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18:05<spawacz>Is it a good practice to build local packages with -pie? Is the overhead of performing dynamic relocations big? Am I going to feel any difference invoking the program multiple times repeatedly (like a compiler)?
18:07<sarnold>yes it's good practice, no the overhead is not very large; if you're doing high-performance computing on a supercompute cluster and every second costs a fortune, you might care a bit..
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18:08<sychill>this is how I search for a djvu viewer => aptitude search '?tag("works-with-format::djvu") ?tag("use::viewing")' ~DProvides:djvu-viewer
18:08<sychill>so it combines the tag data and the "Provides:" header
18:09<sychill>can that be improved on?
18:09<sychill>just looking to hone my search skills since the metadata is always partial
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22:16<amir_>hi
22:16<amir_>i want a good vpn for my kali
22:17<Blendie>ever tried openvpn?
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22:39<jhutchins>!kali
22:39<dpkg>Kali Linux https://kali.org/ is a security/penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but is different enough that we don't provide support in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.libera.chat or https://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian> and read https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
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22:43<jhutchins>I wonder what crimes he wants to conceal.
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22:44<wind>hell is anyone here
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22:44<wind>is anyone here ?
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22:45<sney>!ask
22:45<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
22:45<jhutchins>954 people.
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22:45<sney>jhutchins: probably just wants to dress up like this and say "I'm in" when the vpn connects https://i.ibb.co/NK0kSKz/image.png
22:46<sney>wind: do you have a debian question?
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22:47<sney>and it appears this one was taking a survey.
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22:51<urk>urk kill
22:52<sussudio>urk snort too much cocaine again?
22:52<mrjpaxton[m]>Hi, I have a strange issue. So I'm running Debian backports kernel (5.10.0-0.bpo.7-amd64) and trying to open a LUKS2 encrypted partition. I know for a fact, 100% that my password is correct, since I have also tested it successfully in a Debian LXQT live environment, without the backported kernel. But cryptsetup refuses to open it each time with my installed OS. The command I use is: `cryptsetup open /dev/disk/by-partlable/filebox filebox`.
22:52<mrjpaxton[m]>It gives me "No key available with this passphrase." Any ideas what could be happening?
22:54<sussudio>permissions, maybe?
22:54<mrjpaxton[m]>I do want to mention that this installed OS can, in fact, decrypt the LUKS root partition on my laptop just fine during boot. just that whenever I try cryptsetup on removable media, it just doesn't work. sussudio - I'm running cryptsetup as root. Are there other perms I should check?
22:56<mrjpaxton[m]>And I have also tried two different versions of cryptsetup in the repo, 2:2.3.5-1~bpo10+1 and 2:2.1.0-5+deb10u2. Both of them have the same issue...
22:57<mrjpaxton[m]>I need ExFAT support for Debian, as well as other reasons to use a newer kernel, so using an older kernel is not an option for me right now.
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22:58<sussudio>this is a bit old, but may apply: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=148562
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23:04<sney>and if there are any special characters in your passphrase, make sure you can type it cleanly in the same tty, to rule out any input device shenanigans
23:04<sney>I think cryptsetup may be able to read it from a file too
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23:10<urk>I attempted to run killall soffice, and get an error stating that no process found. This command recently worked, but now it doesn't. What should I do?
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23:10<sney>'killall' is not a solution to a problem, it's a troubleshooting tool. you should find out what's going on with libreoffice and fix that
23:11<urk>sney: Well maybe you should ship me a big dark cape, a wizard hat, and crystal ball?
23:11<Blendie>and a wand too?
23:12<urk>Blendie: don't forget incantations
23:12<sney>maybe just a half ounce of gin and a deadline. ;)
23:12<urk>I didn't write the code for LIbreoffice, and no one asked me my opinion, so there !
23:13<urk>I think it locked up because I type too fast, and I am impatient. For the first time in a long time I am on a laptop that can handle my speed, but not every program can do the same so I need to allow a few microsecods for Libreoffice to digest imput.
23:13<sney>you can look at ps output to get the pid and send your kill signals to that, e.g. 'ps aux|grep soffice', sometimes it will be soffice.bin.
23:14<sney>also historically libreoffice has had a java layer, that isn't required but behaves better when you have a jre installed.
23:14<urk>I already did that, and it didn't show up, but perhaps the planets are not in alignment.
23:14<urk>sney: thanks for the jre tip. I will install it now, or at least check to see if it is installed.
23:15<urk>What is jre called in Debian? I get an error message indicating it is known by a different name.
23:15<sney>I strongly doubt "typing too fast" is a failure state for an office suite, but you never know - I'd ask in #libreoffice on libera and see if they have any ideas about that.
23:15<sney>you can 'apt install default-jre' last I checked.
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23:16<urk>sney: Whats the difference between default-jre and default-jre-headless?
23:17<urk>Is this a program where programmer's head was cut off because it didn't work?
23:17<urk>message showed up indicating default-jre is already installed
23:17<sney>haha, no, headless is for packages that don't need a gui.
23:18<urk>Doesn't surprise me. I have a lot of stuff installed on here.
23:18<jhutchins>urk: It's unlikely that stdin buffer overflow would lock the machine - at least not since the 80s.
23:18<jhutchins>urk: We're working on the cape and the hat, but we can't just give it to you, it wouldn't be yours. You have to earn it.
23:19<urk>jhutchins: I voted for Trump so I get my cape and hat. . . . hahha
23:22<urk>I have tried killing the PID code and still get the error no process found. Don't recall a time where nothing worked with the killall command.
23:23<The-Fly>might need to kill -9 the process ?
23:23<sney>or it's a zombie
23:23<urk>The screen that is locked is the popup where a libreoffice document is being saved to the pdf format.
23:24<sney>could be a ghostscript subprocess doing that export
23:25<urk>got it. I had the wrong PID.
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23:25<sney>you may want to read this, https://tldp.org/LDP/tlk/kernel/processes.html
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23:39<mrjpaxton[m]>Oh wait, I think I might be getting somewhere with this. When I use `cryptsetup luksOpen --test-passphrase /dev/sda2 --verbose --debug`, I notice that I get a message that says "Digest 0 (pbkdf2) verify failed with -1." But I am not using pbkdf2, but argon2i instead. Why is cryptsetup using the wrong one??
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23:40<mrjpaxton[m]>I just checked it with "luksDump", and it's only using argon2i.
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23:42<mrjpaxton[m]>Just checking the cipher, too. And in `cat /proc/crypto` it's using XTS, specifically "aes-xts-plain64", so that's all supported and working. Just gotta figure out how to make cryptsetup use the other KDF.
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23:44<mrjpaxton[m]>Using "open --type luks2" doesn't seem to work...
23:46<sychill>luks2 is the default type, no?
23:47<sychill>I know i had to supply '--type luks1' because of a grub2 limitation
23:48<mrjpaxton[m]>Yeah, not even forcing "--pbkdf argon2i" is working. I know it works just fine in a live environment, but refuses to work on my installed Debian OS with a backported kernel.
23:49<mrjpaxton[m]>Just trying to open an encrypted partition on removable media doesn't work, which is just really strange... I know the password is correct. I use it all the time from KeepassXC. I've even copy-pasted it in a temp text file in Vim just to make sure...
23:50<mrjpaxton[m]>I will try LUKS1, just in case.
23:51<sychill>well, you say it works in another environment, correct? In that other environment, you could add another key (e.g. generated from dd random), then use that binary key to open it on the problem OS
23:51<mrjpaxton[m]>Yeah, it won't work with that. Just says, "Device /dev/sda2 is not a valid LUKS device.", so it must be LUKS2.
23:52<sychill>then at least you can rule out password entry as a possibility
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23:54<mrjpaxton[m]>syschill: I suppose I could try another password, but that doesn't really help me figure out what the problem is. I just want to try and really nail down what the issue is instead of re-encrypting.
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23:57<sychill>well, adding another pw should not cause a re-encrypt. indeed re-encrypting would be the nuclear option
23:57<sychill>the *real* crypto key is probably not your password directly. Your password is the key that encrypts the real pw, most likely
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23:58<sychill>so adding another key is just another encrypted instance of the real key, i suspect
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