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| 01:14 | <_Andrew> | This might seem like a dumb question but how exactly do I add an additional language in gnome3 bullseye? I've been to the settings and additional languages and the menu is completely blank |
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| 01:15 | <jm_> | try #debian-next for testing release |
| 01:15 | <_Andrew> | thanks |
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| 01:17 | <jm_> | I checked task-desktop-foo but it only hase i18n dependencies for firefox/libreoffice/ispell, nothing specific for gnome - have you tried generating other locales? |
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| 01:26 | <somiaj> | though with bullseye so close to being released, we can start fielding questions here too |
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| 01:28 | <jhutchins> | . |
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| 02:47 | <sodo> | https://imgur.com/AwpSVRQ.png |
| 02:47 | <sodo> | why this icon so big |
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| 02:48 | <grawity> | is that a custom icon theme |
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| 02:57 | <twb> | Out of curiosity, I'm trying to compile and then run (via qemu-user) a RV64GC program |
| 02:57 | <twb> | $ clang -x c - <<< 'main(){printf("Hello, world!\n");}' -target riscv -march=rv64gc ===> error: unknown target triple 'riscv', please use -triple or -arch |
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| 02:58 | <twb> | When I try with -target powerpc, I get a linker error from /usr/bin/ld --- I thought clang had its own linker as well? |
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| 04:02 | <vv221> | 00:34 <ArtGravity> I hope my confidence is deb.sury.org is well placed. |
| 04:02 | <vv221> | I hope too, I used to rely on it for professional activities ;) |
| 04:02 | <wyre> | hi everyone, I'm wondering ... why can I see watchdog.ko in /lib/modules for 5.10 but I cannot see it for the 4.19 version? |
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| 04:04 | <sucuralah> | hi there, just would like to check if anyone owns an HP Envy x360 with Ryzen 5, and if yes, how's it working with Bullseye's kernel |
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| 04:09 | <twb> | sucuralah: if that's a laptop, you could try that linuxlaptops website (if that still exists) |
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| 04:13 | <sucuralah> | twb: yes, it's a laptop |
| 04:13 | <sucuralah> | it is working on tumbleweed, but that's the latest kernel |
| 04:14 | <sucuralah> | if i'm not imstaking, bullseye is on 5.10 |
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| 04:16 | <twb> | sucuralah: you can / will be able to cherry-pick newer kernels from backports |
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| 04:29 | <sucuralah> | twb: those usually don't break stuff? |
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| 04:30 | <macc24> | uh, why xwayland in sid is so old? |
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| 04:33 | <twb> | macc24: sid can't get updates until testing ships |
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| 04:33 | <twb> | Nobody likes it, but it's nontrivial to fix the release flow so that doesn't happen |
| 04:33 | <macc24> | :/ ok |
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| 04:34 | <The-Fly> | evening everyone. Have a hopefully simple question.... |
| 04:34 | <twb> | macc24: stuff that's super annoying might go into experimental during that time |
| 04:34 | <The-Fly> | I have a Debian 10 box, that has eth0 set to DHCP |
| 04:34 | <twb> | macc24: xwayland appears to be from xorg-xserver so I am not surprised if that is hairy |
| 04:35 | <The-Fly> | my question is, is there a way to prevent dhclient from over writing resolv.conf, as I wish to statically define the DNS servers vs what the DHCP server wants me to use |
| 04:35 | <macc24> | twb: well latest mesa /might/ be broken with old xwayland |
| 04:35 | <macc24> | s/mesa/panfrost |
| 04:36 | <twb> | The-Fly: yes |
| 04:36 | <twb> | The-Fly: the "right way" is using "resolvconf" package. |
| 04:36 | <twb> | The-Fly: the quick-and-dirty way is "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" |
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| 04:37 | <The-Fly> | ok thanks, I'll go do some reading on resolvconf |
| 04:38 | <twb> | The-Fly: if you're using /etc/network still, you can probably also just set the DNS setting there to override dhclient |
| 04:38 | <twb> | The-Fly: you definitely can do that for /etc/systemd/network |
| 04:38 | <The-Fly> | i'm using /etc/network |
| 04:38 | <The-Fly> | tried defining the dns servers in /etc/network/interfaces, but dhclient still tries to over write it |
| 04:39 | <The-Fly> | annoying |
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| 04:42 | <jm_> | wyre: they added an option to compile watchdog core as a module in 2019 |
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| 04:43 | <wyre> | jm_, yes, I've noticed this already |
| 04:43 | <wyre> | thank you |
| 04:43 | <wyre> | the point is I'm having problems setting up the watchdog for a specific device |
| 04:44 | <wyre> | jm_, do we need this watchdog core module to use the watchdog? |
| 04:45 | <jm_> | wyre: it should be handled automatically if it's needed by a module (i.e. depmod should take care of it) |
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| 04:46 | <wyre> | jm_, so you mean that when it's not compiled as a loadable module the feature is still there? |
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| 04:47 | <jm_> | wyre: no, I mean if another watchdog driver needs it, watchdog_core should be loaded automatically when using modprobe |
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| 04:48 | <wyre> | jm_, but if it wasn't compiled as a loadable module? |
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| 04:53 | <jm_> | wyre: not sure how that would work or if such configuration is possible |
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| 06:15 | <twb> | wyre: compare CONFIG_WATCHDOG options in /boot/config-XXX as a sanity check |
| 06:16 | <twb> | wyre: do you want to load the generic software watchdog, or what? |
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| 06:17 | <wyre> | twb, I want to load specific software watchdog |
| 06:18 | <twb> | there's more than one? |
| 06:18 | <wyre> | twb, I don't get your point, more than one? |
| 06:18 | <twb> | AFAIK there's only one software watchdog in Linux |
| 06:19 | <wyre> | well, maybe the software watchdog is unique, but the kernel modules are apparently not |
| 06:19 | <wyre> | https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/watchdog/ |
| 06:20 | <twb> | wyre: those are hardware watchdogs except for softdog |
| 06:20 | <twb> | each of those configures a piece of hardware, i.e. it is a driver |
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| 06:21 | <twb> | softdog is the exception -- it can only trigger if the kernel itself is still operational |
| 06:21 | <wyre> | twb, well, I don't know how this work, but this is the machine https://www.duagon.com/products/details/bc51m/# |
| 06:22 | <wyre> | and apparently I need to load this module https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/watchdog/menf21bmc_wdt.c |
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| 06:22 | <twb> | OK so let's look in /boot/config-XXX |
| 06:22 | <twb> | I have CONFIG_MENF21BMC_WATCHDOG=m |
| 06:22 | <wyre> | sure, I have the module |
| 06:22 | <twb> | On Intel systems, at least, the equivaslent driver will autoload |
| 06:23 | <twb> | exec 99>/dev/watchdog || echo o >/proc/sysrq-trigger |
| 06:23 | <wyre> | the point is that I don't know how to configure it |
| 06:23 | <twb> | echo >&99 pet |
| 06:23 | <twb> | while sleep 10; do ...; echo >&99 pet; done |
| 06:23 | <twb> | wyre: ^ that's what my stuff is doing, works with either softdog or intel wdt |
| 06:24 | <twb> | wyre: you configure it at modprobe time |
| 06:24 | <grawity> | can't you have multiple /dev/watchdog# nowadays |
| 06:24 | <wyre> | well, twb, I don't have /dev/watchdog once I load menf21bmc_wdt with modprobe |
| 06:24 | <twb> | wyre: e.g. "modprobe mycooldriver hat=purple socks=wool" |
| 06:24 | <grawity> | wdctl looks for 'watchdog0' by default |
| 06:24 | <twb> | grawity: yes, /dev/watchdog is an alias for either 0 or for "all of them", I forget which |
| 06:25 | <twb> | Interesting, wdctl didn't exist last time I fourhgt this :-) |
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| 06:25 | <grawity> | hmm, systemd on the other hand uses /dev/watchdog by default |
| 06:26 | <twb> | wyre: anyway. The OLD way, before wdctl, was to put stuff into /etc/modprobe.d/blah.conf which would be something liek "options my_cool_module socks=wool" |
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| 06:26 | <twb> | wyre: http://ix.io/3sQ9 |
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| 08:01 | <tohoyn> | when will debian 11 be released? |
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| 08:02 | <tohoyn> | I already got the answer from dpkg |
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| 08:04 | <ratrace> | tohoyn: https://imgur.com/a/UOnXxTf |
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| 08:06 | <tohoyn> | ratrace what do the cyan and purple curves mean? |
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| 08:07 | <ratrace> | tohoyn: https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
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| 08:08 | <tohoyn> | ratrace: doesn the number concerning the current stable release (light blue) have to be zero when bullseye is released? |
| 08:08 | <tohoyn> | s/doesn/does/ |
| 08:09 | <abrotman> | tohoyn: Ideally, that green line will reach 0 .. The green line is for Bullseye |
| 08:10 | <ratrace> | tohoyn: yes, but zero is not on the axis, but few pixels up. see the gray dotted line in the semi-joke imgur post :) |
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| 08:11 | <abrotman> | tohoyn: and there's a link toward the bottom of that bugs.d.o page that links to the "testing" RC bugs |
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| 08:12 | <ratrace> | speaking of, why is the stable release RC growing. I mean... what does that mean, since stable is already released? |
| 08:13 | <abrotman> | https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities |
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| 08:13 | <abrotman> | Just because it's released doesn't mean people can't later find critical bugs |
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| 08:14 | <tohoyn> | but are the release critical bugs in the stable release also RC in the testing distribution? |
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| 08:15 | <abrotman> | I'm sure there are some that are shared, but most packages have newer versions from upstream that introduce different and exciting new bugs :) |
| 08:15 | <tohoyn> | ok |
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| 08:22 | <ratrace> | abrotman: but that would mean critical bugs are rarely fixed for Stable? |
| 08:26 | <abrotman> | Not necessarily. Check teh changelogs for the Buster point releases |
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| 10:41 | <archivist> | i need help, badly. i'm desperately trying to write a dolphin service menu that will allow me to create hard links via context menu. this seems to mean writing a bash script first. |
| 10:41 | <archivist> | i'm a seasoned geek but new to linux, and the intricacies of new languages are giving me hell. all my time for my projects has been wasted for weeks because of simple things like this that i can't do |
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| 10:41 | <archivist> | i've been rtfm'ing like crazy but i can't figure out how to manipulate the string that $(xsel -b) returns |
| 10:41 | <archivist> | i'm currently trying to get $(xsel -b)'s output (newline-delimited file URLs) into an array variable |
| 10:42 | <archivist> | IFS=$'\n' -r -a myVar <<< "$(xsel-b)" <-isn't working |
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| 10:43 | <@Ganneff> | archivist: https://linuxhandbook.com/bash-arrays/ |
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| 10:44 | <archivist> | i've got linuxhandbook.com open in one of my browser tabs |
| 10:44 | <@Ganneff> | wherever you got your -r -a syntax from, switch to more readable writing, you will like it more later. |
| 10:45 | <@Ganneff> | and then you "fill" your array by foo=(val1 val2 val3) (see the () ) |
| 10:46 | <archivist> | :/ |
| 10:46 | <archivist> | how about telling me what "more readable writing" is |
| 10:47 | <@Ganneff> | IFS='\n' |
| 10:47 | <@Ganneff> | erm |
| 10:47 | <archivist> | i'm looking at a weird character at the end |
| 10:47 | <@Ganneff> | OLDIFS=$IFS \n export IFS='\n' \n FOO=$(some command that outputs lines) \n echo ${FOO[1]} \n (and so on) |
| 10:48 | <@Ganneff> | (and somewhere IFS=$OLDIFS as one usually doesnt want to continue with a modified IFS) |
| 10:48 | <ansgar> | Or use Python. Less pitfalls :] |
| 10:48 | <@Ganneff> | and all \n ought to be real newlines in your script, of course. |
| 10:49 | <archivist> | that's incomprehensible to me |
| 10:50 | <archivist> | when i was 14, i bought my first cimputer, a dinosaur at the time, an atari 800xl. the guy i bought it from gave me a few books with it, some were program listings in atari basic. but no informationa bout the language itself. |
| 10:50 | <archivist> | i figured out how to program by playign with the programs. i reverse-engineered the rules of the language myself. |
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| 10:51 | <archivist> | so i'm no dummy, ok? please don't give me that condescending linux geek attitude. |
| 10:51 | <archivist> | even in the stuff i've been reading, it's admitted that bash's syntax is horribly finicky |
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| 10:52 | <archivist> | my entire ARCHIVE of almost 2 terabytes is organized with hard links. |
| 10:52 | <archivist> | i need to be able to do this so i can do ANYTHING i care about |
| 10:52 | <@Ganneff> | if you cant translate a \n to a newline when copy/pasting the line above, i cant help you |
| 10:52 | <archivist> | if i had any familiarity with these languages, this would be trivial |
| 10:53 | <archivist> | you're the only person i;ve ever seen show me code that way, dude |
| 10:53 | <archivist> | i couldn't have expected it |
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| 10:54 | <archivist> | but now i get what you meant |
| 10:54 | <archivist> | lemme try that |
| 10:56 | <archivist> | while i'm fucking around some more... can you solve the mystery for me of why no one has ever writtent his piece of code yet? i'm wondering if there's some unspoken hatred for hard links amongst existing linux users; there seems to be little documentation on it beyond endless reposts of ln's man page |
| 10:57 | <amacater> | archivist: What's your underlying file system? |
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| 10:58 | <jhutchins> | archivist: Maybe because you're the only one who's had the misfortune of thinking that's the correct approach to the problem. |
| 10:58 | <amacater> | Some fs won't support hard links at all and, in general, they're not a great idea |
| 10:58 | <jhutchins> | I mean, if people who've spend decades working on this haven't thought of it, you must be a special kind of genius. |
| 10:58 | <archivist> | i am. **middle finger** pick an iq test and compete against me someday |
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| 10:59 | <jhutchins> | In any case, this is not a programming philosopy channel, it shold be kept to specific technical solutions. |
| 10:59 | <archivist> | file system is ntfs |
| 10:59 | <amacater> | BZZT - game over, sorry |
| 11:00 | <archivist> | i got started on windows around 1997 **shrug** |
| 11:00 | <archivist> | just the way it went |
| 11:00 | <jhutchins> | Yep, another genius. Got that mental evaluation right, eh? |
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| 11:00 | <amacater> | archivist: I got started on Windows in about 1986 and gave up serious use in about 1998 for just this sort of reason |
| 11:00 | <archivist> | by the time i knew linux was better, i was already good at what i was doing. THIS situation is what has kept me away until i bought a laptop i couldn't get windows 7 on |
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| 11:01 | <jhutchins> | archivist: My first inter-active login was in 1973. |
| 11:01 | <archivist> | it's not cool to go from being able to tweak every last little setting of a system to having to rtfm for shit like this |
| 11:01 | <jhutchins> | ... and this is still off-topic. |
| 11:01 | <amacater> | There's no need for any of us to be ultra-smug - in some ways, we'd always like to help, but htere's some things we really can't do - and yes, this is off-topic |
| 11:01 | <jhutchins> | THere is #debian-offtopic if you would like to continue. |
| 11:01 | <archivist> | fuck your on-topic. are there fifty people asking questions that i'm in thw way of? no. god DAMN this nazi attitude on irc is stupid |
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| 11:02 | <jhutchins> | archivist: It has it's purpose. |
| 11:02 | <archivist> | yeah, to make you feel special |
| 11:02 | -!- | mode/#debian [+b *!*archivist@*.biz.spectrum.com] by Ganneff |
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| 11:02 | <jhutchins> | Ganneff: Thank you. |
| 11:02 | <amacater> | I'd suggest that you might want to ask in debian-user mailing list: we do have at least one really good and useful Bash expert there |
| 11:04 | <jhutchins> | amacater: #debiian@libera has an amazing expert who's done a huge amount of documentation. |
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| 11:04 | <jhutchins> | amacater: Who were you reponding to, I couldn't follow in the flood. |
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| 11:07 | <selckin> | &/1 |
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| 11:16 | <skrrrt> | Can I retrieve any files with grub ? |
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| 11:19 | <skrrrt> | I'm deb. Seems like nobody on kali wants to help |
| 11:20 | <skrrrt> | Or Is there any way to make a live usb with grub |
| 11:20 | <sney> | iirc the grub rescue console can navigate the filesystem a little bit, but accessing files outside of kernel/initrd is outside the scope. maybe you can print a text file to the screen but that would be it |
| 11:21 | <sney> | !supergrubdisk |
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| 11:21 | <skrrrt> | sney: ok. How about making a live debian usb with android is that possible |
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| 11:22 | <skrrrt> | Maybe i should ask on android |
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| 11:22 | <skrrrt> | !supergrubdisk |
| 11:22 | <somiaj> | unsure if andriod gives you the ability to raw write to an external usb drive. |
| 11:23 | <sney> | yeah, definitely ask android support. I suspect it's possible but you might need to be rooted. |
| 11:23 | <sney> | supergrubdisk is supergrubdisk.org, dunno why the bot doesn't know that one |
| 11:23 | <Sqrt{not}> | skrrrt, what you want to do is to copy files from the unbootable kali system to an external USB or something, right? |
| 11:24 | <skrrrt> | Sqrt{not}:Yeah that's what I thought |
| 11:25 | <skrrrt> | Since I don't have a second pc I have to figure somthing out |
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| 11:29 | <jhutchins> | skrrrt: What did you use for installer medium? |
| 11:30 | <skrrrt> | jhutchins: what do you mean. I used a usb |
| 11:31 | <skrrrt> | I think I got an Idea |
| 11:31 | <jhutchins> | . |
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| 11:32 | <jhutchins> | skrrrt: Did you wipe the installer off of the USB? |
| 11:32 | <skrrrt> | Is it possible to find the old debian 10 kernel on grub and load it |
| 11:32 | <skrrrt> | jhutchins: yes |
| 11:33 | <jhutchins> | It depends. What is the problem with the current install? |
| 11:33 | <Sqrt{not}> | skrrrt, did you try booting all of the 4 kali kernels that are listed in your boot menu, and none of the works? is that right? |
| 11:35 | <skrrrt> | Sqrt{not}: yep. None of them works. |
| 11:36 | <skrrrt> | jhutchins: idk I turned on my pc and and i only found two kali kernels with rescue modes allthough it says debian when I boot |
| 11:36 | <jhutchins> | How does it fail? |
| 11:37 | <skrrrt> | jhutchins: http://imgur.com/gallery/JkNPIuj |
| 11:37 | <skrrrt> | jhutchins: it just shows me the loading screen |
| 11:37 | <jhutchins> | I much prefer text descriptions, but I'll make an exception in this case... |
| 11:39 | <jhutchins> | Ok, grub boot menu. Then what. |
| 11:39 | <skrrrt> | When i boot into rescue mode this happens |
| 11:39 | <skrrrt> | http://imgur.com/gallery/9JBwhw5 |
| 11:41 | <skrrrt> | jhutchins: don't you get it. I only have two kali kernels and when I boot into them they just lead me to a loading screen |
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| 11:42 | <skrrrt> | But I didn't install kali. I just turned on my pc one day and there it was |
| 11:42 | <ratrace> | magic! |
| 11:42 | <skrrrt> | On gawd |
| 11:43 | <Sqrt{not}> | skrrrt, that looks like some hardware error on your disk. and, you have CLEARLY installed kali |
| 11:43 | <jhutchins> | Did you ever have kali in the past? |
| 11:43 | <skrrrt> | jhutchins: YESS |
| 11:44 | <jhutchins> | Ah. |
| 11:44 | <jhutchins> | Yes, you can search for the debian kernel with grub. |
| 11:44 | <skrrrt> | Thank gawd |
| 11:44 | <jhutchins> | It shouldn't have gone anywhere, so someting is definitely worong. |
| 11:44 | <skrrrt> | Lemme just open grub real quick |
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| 11:45 | <jhutchins> | I can't give you the details of how - I'd have to google them myself, but I know there are several good tutorials out there. |
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| 11:46 | <jhutchins> | https://www.suse.com/c/loading-linux-kernel-manually-using-grub-sles/ |
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| 11:51 | <skrrrt> | jhutchins: thanks |
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| 11:51 | <skrrrt> | Stop downvoting my pictures on imgur :D |
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| 11:57 | <skrrrt> | So I found an ext* in (hd0,gpt2) but I dunno how to find and load the kernel. the commands on the website are wrong |
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| 12:05 | <jhutchins> | skrrrt: That link was only meant as a hint, it's for Suse. |
| 12:07 | <Sqrt{not}> | skrrrt, your imgur picture that shows multiple uncorrectable disk errors on that partition, is probably a very bad sign. |
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| 12:09 | <amacater> | jhutchins: That was to archivist just before the kick |
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| 12:19 | <skrrrt> | Sqrt{not}: is there a way to save the files ? |
| 12:21 | <sussudio> | not if they're on uncorrectable sectors |
| 12:23 | <skrrrt> | sussudio: :/ damn |
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| 12:23 | <sussudio> | skrrrt: is it a pc or a laptop |
| 12:24 | <skrrrt> | PC |
| 12:24 | <sussudio> | skrrrt: have you moved it recently or worked inside it |
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| 12:24 | <skrrrt> | sussudio: are you a phil Collins or an american psycho fan? Or both |
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| 12:25 | <skrrrt> | sussudio: what do you mean by worked inside it. I didn't move it. |
| 12:25 | <sussudio> | american psycho wasn't even out when i started using this nick. |
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| 12:26 | <sussudio> | skrrrt: have you tried reseating the sata and power cables |
| 12:26 | <skrrrt> | sussudio: signature look of superiority |
| 12:27 | <skrrrt> | sussudio: I plugged them out and plugged them in again |
| 12:27 | <sussudio> | skrrrt: on the motherboard too? |
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| 12:29 | <sussudio> | skrrrt: try plugging it into one of those external usb docks and see if you still get the errors |
| 12:29 | <skrrrt> | sussudio: nope not the motherboard. I'll try it but i don't think it's gonna work . But I hope it works |
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| 12:29 | <skrrrt> | sussudio: what external usb docks |
| 12:30 | <sussudio> | skrrrt: like one of these: https://www.amazon.com/Sata-Docking-Station/s?k=Sata+Docking+Station |
| 12:31 | <sussudio> | that way you rule out power/motherboard problems. |
| 12:32 | <skrrrt> | I fcking hate hdd's this is like the second time this year that one of them just starts dying arround |
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| 12:32 | <sussudio> | skrrrt: seagate? |
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| 12:33 | <skrrrt> | sussudio: nope i.norys |
| 12:34 | <skrrrt> | The other one was western digital |
| 12:34 | <sussudio> | what's an i.norys |
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| 12:35 | <skrrrt> | sussudio:http://inorys.de/ |
| 12:35 | <sussudio> | how old is this thing |
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| 12:36 | <skrrrt> | sussudio: it says it's from 2016 |
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| 12:37 | <sussudio> | looks like rebranded drives, since there's only 3 manufacturers left in the world. |
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| 12:38 | <quadrat> | yeah, never heard of them, sitting myself in germany :/ |
| 12:40 | <skrrrt> | hdd's in general they start dying arround mixing up kernels n sh*t after just a year of usage |
| 12:42 | <skrrrt> | sussudio: I don't have an external docking station man :DD |
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| 12:47 | <sussudio> | skrrrt: playing music with loud bass near your pc can cause hdd problems too. |
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| 12:55 | <skrrrt> | Ok it's possible to make a live usb from an android |
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| 12:55 | <skrrrt> | Catch you guys later |
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| 13:00 | <ratrace> | What process/services/config is setting pfifo_fast default qdisc, on debian? |
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| 13:04 | <sussudio> | !confuse ratrace |
| 13:04 | <dpkg> | Yes, where are our gouda tomorrow, ratrace? Pants of the People's Republic of Tahiti with extra herring. |
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| 13:07 | <eight> | I'm having a small problem with the LUKS password dialog |
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| 13:07 | <eight> | I'm currently using the non-free Debian 10.10 ISO (LXQT) |
| 13:07 | <aloo_shu> | if the android is permitting to be usb mass storage or cd, yes, can be neat |
| 13:07 | <aloo_shu> | I'd love to set up a debian live image specifically for that, one that, once booted, initiates a rndis connection to the android device it was booted from, permitting ssh logins, optionally X11 or VNC |
| 13:07 | <aloo_shu> | broken laptop screen rescue set |
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| 13:08 | <eight> | After update && upgrade, the LUKS dialog does not recognize the Backspace key (Ctrl-U still works) |
| 13:09 | <eight> | If I don't upgrade it (4.19.194-1 kernel), then both Backspace and Ctrl-U works normally |
| 13:10 | <eight> | I supposed it has something to do with systemd-ask-password, but I couldn't find anything further |
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| 13:11 | <ratrace> | eight: do you have the proper keyboard layout defined in /etc/default/keyboard ? |
| 13:11 | <eight> | I use normal en_US.UTF-8 |
| 13:11 | <ratrace> | that's locale, not keyboard layout |
| 13:12 | <eight> | Oh. I use default US layout |
| 13:12 | <ratrace> | and its defined via /etc/default/keyboard ? |
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| 13:12 | <eight> | XKBMODEL=pc105 XKBLAYOUT=us |
| 13:12 | <eight> | I'm not sure what BACKSPACE=guess means |
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| 13:14 | <ratrace> | eight: there's a very helpful manpage suggested to be consulted, in /etc/default/keyboard |
| 13:14 | <eight> | ratrace: I see |
| 13:16 | <eight> | Is it possible that the LUKS dialog guess wrong the terminal ? |
| 13:16 | <ratrace> | eight: I am not sure what "LUKS dialog" is actually. for encrypted rootfs, the initramfs cryptsetup scripts don't do "dialogs", just a simple prompt on the console |
| 13:16 | <ratrace> | eight: btw, you do have console-setup package installed, yes? |
| 13:17 | <ratrace> | I mean, you should if you have /etc/default/keyboard; but maybe that config remained and the package was somehow lost? without it, setupcon can't setup proper kbd layout in initramfs |
| 13:18 | <eight> | ratrace: I mean the password prompt. Yes console-setup is installed |
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| 13:20 | <eight> | ratrace: How should I debug it ? I can replicate the bug but only if I reinstall everything |
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| 13:21 | <ratrace> | I am not sure. try changing the BACKSPACE option to "bs" explicitly, and rebuild update-initramfs -u -k all ; reboot and see if that fixed it |
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| 13:23 | <eight> | ratrace: Okay I will look into initramfs and setupcon |
| 13:24 | <eight> | Thanks |
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| 13:27 | <bentham> | Why does my debian system try to reach out to metadata.ftp-master.debian.org ? What is there? |
| 13:28 | <bremner> | at a wild guess, dep-11 package descriptions |
| 13:28 | <bremner> | which I still don't see the point of, but ymmv |
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| 13:42 | <bremner> | bentham: when do you notice the traffic? |
| 13:43 | <bremner> | It seems to hold changelogs and README.Debian, but I don't think those are normally fetched by apt. |
| 13:44 | <vv221> | Maybe apt-listchanges would fetch changelogs? |
| 13:44 | <vv221> | (wild guess) |
| 13:45 | <bremner> | better than my first wild guess :P |
| 13:45 | <bentham> | bremner: good question, I'll investigate further. |
| 13:46 | <ansgar> | `apt changelog` downloads changelogs from there; I don't think apt-listchanges does (it instead slowly extracts them locally from the .deb) |
| 13:47 | <vv221> | ansgar, right, I think I remember that from my installations of multi-GB .deb packages and apt being infuriatingly slow due to that. |
| 13:47 | <vv221> | (even more infuriating when I know there is no changelog in there) |
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| 13:51 | <NthDegree> | bentham, you using a desktop or a server? |
| 13:51 | <NthDegree> | If so, PackageKit might be fetching the info |
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| 13:57 | <r4fkramer> | Hi all. I am writing an article for a social network, and I would like to know if it is possible to install a Linux kernel OS such as Debian GNU/Linux 'Buster' on a device that already has Android installed. |
| 13:57 | <r4fkramer> | My thesis is that it would only be possible to run Android on arm64/armel/armhf processors and architecture, and it would not be possible to install a system based on Linux Kernel on Android. |
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| 13:58 | <r4fkramer> | Please, am I wrong ? Surely Debian can be ported for this mentioned architectures, but not Debian Linux itself. Or, is there any mistake in this thought ? |
| 13:58 | <vv221> | Debian can run on a lot of architectures, including arm64/armel/armhf. |
| 13:58 | <vv221> | Including the GNU/Linux kernel + usersapce. |
| 13:59 | <vv221> | Linux is not a x86 thing only ;) |
| 13:59 | <r4fkramer> | vv221 Debian car run on a lot of architectures, sure. But, is that possible 'Debian Linux' running in Android ? |
| 13:59 | <ansgar> | r4fkramer: I'm fairly confident it is possible to install Linux-kernel based oeprating systems such as Android on Android. |
| 13:59 | <vv221> | Running "on Android" as no real sense, Android iself is an OS. |
| 13:59 | <bremner> | r4fkramer: replace Android with Windows in your question. Does it still make sense? |
| 13:59 | <vv221> | I guess you mean on a device shipped with Android by default? |
| 14:00 | <ratrace> | r4fkramer: sounds like a great weekend project to actually get first hand experience and actually know something when you write about it :) |
| 14:00 | <klax> | Hello ! |
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| 14:00 | <NthDegree> | r4fkramer, some applications won't work but others will |
| 14:00 | <vv221> | bremner, I’ve read you can now run Debian on top of Windows, with this "WSL" thing ;P |
| 14:01 | * | bremner sighs deeply |
| 14:01 | <vv221> | (not that I would use that) |
| 14:01 | <ansgar> | But can you run Debian on top of Android on top of Windows in Windows 11? |
| 14:01 | <NthDegree> | bremner, Windows can run Debian using WSL1 which is part of Windows itself, no Linux kernel code in use |
| 14:01 | <bremner> | well, you can install termux on adnroid |
| 14:01 | <bremner> | yes, yes |
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| 14:02 | <eight> | ansgar: Can you run Notepad on Wine on Debian on Android on Windows 11 ? |
| 14:02 | <ratrace> | NthDegree: WSL2. WSL1 is not running debian in any shape or form, it's just a bash-like process atop of NT kernel. |
| 14:02 | <ratrace> | (with reverse-WINE lib shimming) |
| 14:03 | <r4fkramer> | bremner, thanks for answering: for me , it doesn't make sense. I know you can use Debian even with FreeBSD Kernel (kFreeBSD). Surely Debian can run on several architectures, such as arm64, armhf, armel. But, not using Kernel Linux. That's what Imagine. |
| 14:03 | <NthDegree> | ratrace, WSL1 can run a whole tree off the top of the bash picoprocess |
| 14:03 | <ansgar> | ratrace: Umm? WSL1 runs Debian just fine? |
| 14:03 | <vv221> | r4fkramer, you should look for what is Android kernel base ;) |
| 14:03 | <klax> | Current Kali WSL on windows10, works fine |
| 14:04 | <bremner> | r4fkramer: sorry, I don't understand "not using Kernel Linux" |
| 14:04 | <bremner> | that is exactly how debian on armhf works |
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| 14:04 | <NthDegree> | r4fkramer, Debian uses the Linux kernel by default |
| 14:05 | <NthDegree> | r4fkramer, also Debian runs on ARM using Linux: https://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ |
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| 14:06 | <NthDegree> | So I think you'll find that you can run a lot of Debian packages on Android using chroot; enough for a lot of use cases |
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| 14:08 | <vv221> | *Android* runs on ARM using Linux anyway… |
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| 14:08 | <NthDegree> | yes indeed |
| 14:09 | <r4fkramer> | Sorry, bremner, I meant 'is that possible installing an OS based on Linux in Android ?' Linux is based in x86_x64, amd64. |
| 14:09 | <r4fkramer> | ratrace, I'm trying to clear up an article that seems to me rather nonsensical, referring to Debian 'Linux' installed and running under an Android, which as already said, is itself an OS (Android). |
| 14:09 | <r4fkramer> | ratrace, Linux is a Kernel; but, I don't think the Linux Kernel itself can run on Android. |
| 14:09 | <NthDegree> | r4fkramer, Android *is* the Linux kernel |
| 14:09 | <r4fkramer> | ratrace, The subject is generating controversy, and I need reliable sources to solve this doubt, which is increasing in proportion. |
| 14:09 | <ratrace> | r4fkramer: Android = Linux kernel with java-like userland |
| 14:10 | <r4fkramer> | And, I don't see anyone better than the Debian Community here to answer these questions at once. Did you now understand the proposed question? |
| 14:10 | <ratrace> | it literally IS the very same kernel.org kernel + vendor modifications |
| 14:10 | <bremner> | r4fkramer: Linux is not based on x86_64. at all. |
| 14:10 | <bremner> | amd64 is probably the second or third most widely deployed architecture running the linux kernel |
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| 14:11 | <NthDegree> | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux-supported_computer_architectures |
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| 14:11 | <sarnold> | bremner: rofl |
| 14:11 | <sarnold> | bremner: good point :D |
| 14:11 | <ratrace> | r4fkramer: but it's best to try it and see what you'd need to modify a GNU/Linux distro/kernel to run on an android device; and note, each device might require completely different massaginng. |
| 14:11 | <vv221> | bremner, you’re making me curious, what would be more widely used? Legacy i386 devices? ARM-based phones? |
| 14:12 | <bremner> | both, possibly |
| 14:12 | <vv221> | Sounds legit. |
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| 14:12 | <sarnold> | aarch64 phones, armhf phones are my guesses |
| 14:12 | <bremner> | or 32 bit arm and 64 bit arm, depends how you slice it |
| 14:12 | * | NthDegree is running Debian i386 on a cheap VPS because lower RAM use >_> |
| 14:12 | <bremner> | yeah, that |
| 14:12 | <sarnold> | maybe MIPS set-top boxes |
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| 14:12 | <amacater> | There are folk who have tried (and maybe succeeded) in running Debian in a virtual machine on a heavyweight Android phone. [Much like running in emulation in kvm/Virtualbox/HyperV] |
| 14:12 | <vv221> | I’m surrounded by desktops and laptops here, but my setup is obviously not representative of anything. |
| 14:13 | <vv221> | (I don’t own a single smartphone, not even a "dumb" mobile phone) |
| 14:13 | <ratrace> | NthDegree: 2010s called, they want their VPS plans back. 2021s called right after, they laughed and offered many gigs for cents |
| 14:13 | <amacater> | And there have been a couple of attempts to get "Linux@ working on phones natively with mixed success. |
| 14:13 | <ratrace> | welp: librem phones. |
| 14:14 | <ratrace> | I wanted to get one. |
| 14:14 | <amacater> | "Linux" - so no Android components whatever. |
| 14:15 | <amacater> | Pinephone/Librem are the obvious ones most recently. The problem comes that the hardware will run Linux no problem - but then you need closed source bits and blobs to make the phone functionality functional. |
| 14:15 | <r4fkramer> | ratrace, You've come to a point that I wanted to address before: A standard Linux would have to go through several modifications to be able to run on Android. |
| 14:16 | <amacater> | Nice GUI but no phone capability is a waste of a phone ... |
| 14:16 | <r4fkramer> | ratrace, But trying to use a traditional Debian Linux without any modification, installing it on an Android, did not seem technically possible to me. |
| 14:16 | <r4fkramer> | ratrace, Modifications would have to be done first. |
| 14:16 | <vv221> | r4fkramer, I don’t know what are your original documentation sources, but a Linux kernel works on ARM *out-of-the-box* ;) |
| 14:16 | <jmcnaught> | r4fkramer: https://wiki.debian.org/ChrootOnAndroid |
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| 14:17 | <r4fkramer> | For example, it's not common seeing smartphones running Linux OS, they usually are sold with Android OS installed on it. |
| 14:17 | <NthDegree> | r4fkramer, you can just install Debian into a chroot |
| 14:18 | <vv221> | Of course, but the reasons are commercial, not technical. |
| 14:18 | <vv221> | Like Windows and personal computers. |
| 14:18 | <NthDegree> | The reason phones don't have Debian on them is because there's *zero* profit if you do |
| 14:18 | <ratrace> | problem isnt't the ARM chip, but the whole chipsetry around it. bios, boot process, controllers, .... |
| 14:18 | <ratrace> | %s/ARM chip/ARM cpu/ |
| 14:18 | <sarnold> | graphics support |
| 14:18 | <r4fkramer> | vv221: really ? Well, it's good to know about it. |
| 14:18 | <sarnold> | bluetooth |
| 14:18 | <sarnold> | wifi / cell |
| 14:19 | <ratrace> | input |
| 14:19 | <sarnold> | r4fkramer: these guys have been keeping ubuntu touch alive after canonical stopped funding work on it https://ubports.com/ |
| 14:19 | <vv221> | And even with all these chips, the restrictions are more often due to closed-source engineering, rather than technical limitations. |
| 14:20 | <r4fkramer> | sarnold, thank you for link and information :) |
| 14:20 | <vv221> | We could have 100% libre Debian-based phones, if the industry was not working against it ;) |
| 14:21 | <ratrace> | we have: https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/ |
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| 14:21 | <r4fkramer> | vv221, please, what do you think about this ? https://linuxhint.com/about-arm64-armel-armhf/ |
| 14:22 | <vv221> | r4fkramer, it’s a bit long, what is the part you have issues with? |
| 14:22 | <vv221> | (well, it’s not *that* long, but I’m doing other things at the same time ;P) |
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| 14:22 | <r4fkramer> | This author makes a distinction between debian running arm64/arme/armhf and 'debian Linux' running on top of these architectures. Maybe my analysis is wrong, not so clear for me yet. That's why I am here. |
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| 14:23 | <r4fkramer> | vv221, sorry for that. Well, have a look if you have interest in other occasion then :) Perhaps you will like this article. |
| 14:24 | <vv221> | r4fkramer, OK, I think I get the confusion now ;) |
| 14:24 | <vv221> | Debian amd64 is a port too, as is Debian i386. |
| 14:24 | <vv221> | See here for an explanation: https://www.debian.org/ports/ |
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| 14:25 | <vv221> | The distinction is mostly about official ports (mid-to-big team) and unofficial ports (tiny-to-small team). |
| 14:25 | <vv221> | armel, armhf and arm64 are all part of the official ports, on the same level than amd64 or i386. |
| 14:26 | <r4fkramer> | vv221 No, another one taken by confusion, no! You here are the Light to illuminate a legion of lost and unprepared noobs like Me. |
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| 14:26 | <r4fkramer> | you cannot also be swallowed up by the same kind of confusion that I have |
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| 14:27 | <amacater> | Unofficial ports are also, sometimes, ports that rely on hardware that's no longer produced or current - volunteers keeping alive the ability to install Debian on smaller architectures and reviving material that would otherwise be thrown away |
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| 14:28 | <r4fkramer> | Now, I'll have a look on article sarnold has sent to me, for it's quite relevant for the question I presented here. |
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| 14:32 | <r4fkramer> | ansgar, thank you very much for your explanation :) |
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| 14:37 | <ratrace> | whoever added --exclude and --exclude-dir options to grep and decided that it only refers to basenames, wins 1000 internets. GoodJob(tm). this is totally sarcasm. |
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| 14:40 | <vv221> | Base name of sub-directories, what a brilliant thing to filter upon… |
| 14:41 | <jhutchins> | vv221: As opposed to? |
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| 14:41 | <vv221> | name of any directory in the path ;) |
| 14:42 | <vv221> | With --exclude-dir=.git, you skip files in .git/, but not the ones in .git/refs |
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| 14:42 | <jhujhiti> | uh, it's a glob? |
| 14:42 | <jhujhiti> | --exclude .git/* |
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| 14:44 | <ratrace> | no, grep doesn't work like that. it literally uses only the basename |
| 14:44 | <ratrace> | the glob is matched against the baseneame only |
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| 14:45 | <vv221> | Actually it seems --exclude-dir='.git/*' works, the manpage might be error-inducing here. |
| 14:46 | <vv221> | (to be fair I did not know about --exclude/--exclude-dir, I tend to always give grep some `find …` output) |
| 14:46 | <ratrace> | vv221: doesn't work for me |
| 14:46 | <jhujhiti> | shell quoting issue? |
| 14:46 | <jhujhiti> | the manpage says they're both globs |
| 14:46 | <ratrace> | for example how do you skip grepping in /dev, /sys, /proc and friends. |
| 14:46 | <ratrace> | jhujhiti: yeah I'm always mindful of using * in quotes, unless I want the shell to expand on it |
| 14:47 | <ratrace> | or in concrete case I have here .... grep -r -i '--exclude-dir=/dev/*' ... "fq_codel" / descends into those dirs |
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| 14:49 | <ratrace> | ended up using find -xdev to block on filesystem boundaries, but then I want to exclude /usr/src/ dirs. no can do. if this is PEBKAC, I'm all ears. |
| 14:49 | <jhujhiti> | the manpage says that --exclude-dir only excludes matches that were specified on the command line if i understand it correctly |
| 14:49 | <vv221> | ratrace, that’s even more tricky than I expected. `grep -r -i '--exclude-dir=/dev/*' … /` won’t work, but `grep -r -i '--exclude-dir=/dev/*' … /*` will. |
| 14:49 | <jhujhiti> | :shrug: i never use gnu extensions |
| 14:49 | <ratrace> | tried taht too via xargs. no go |
| 14:50 | <ratrace> | I just wish it had proper GLOB or FILTER, like rsync does. that one is sweet. |
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| 14:58 | <jhujhiti> | ah yeah i missed the bit about it being a basename in the manpage. wtf, why bother with a glob |
| 14:59 | <jhujhiti> | and why does --exclude-files exist if it takes basenames instead of paths |
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| 14:59 | <jhujhiti> | gnu stuff is so bad :( |
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| 15:00 | <ratrace> | I really welcome the systemd/linux, gnu-free, future :) |
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| 15:00 | <ratrace> | rust coreutils is already on the way :) |
| 15:01 | <jhujhiti> | i don't buy the rust hype for one second. every new language was going to solve all of our problems and here we are still using c |
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| 15:01 | <ratrace> | the kernel devs, and increasing number of userland devs, disagrees tho. |
| 15:01 | <jhujhiti> | but gnu stuff shows a distinct lack of thoughtful design |
| 15:02 | <ratrace> | I just don't understand why the author wasted time to make the half-donkey job like that. |
| 15:02 | <@Ganneff> | you ought to switch to #debian-offtopic if you want to continue down this road |
| 15:02 | <ratrace> | right, sorry. |
| 15:03 | <jhutchins> | Gods, here we are again discussing development philosophy on the tech support channel. |
| 15:04 | <jhutchins> | + Ganneff |
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| 15:07 | <r4fkramer> | Thank you for the link you have provided, jmcnaught :) |
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| 15:58 | <Guest690> | hello |
| 15:59 | <sney> | hi |
| 15:59 | <Guest690> | i just installed debian 11 |
| 16:00 | <Guest690> | works great but I need to edit my sources list file |
| 16:00 | <Guest690> | deb ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/amd64 bullseye main contrib < is a valid entry |
| 16:00 | <sney> | not the amd64 |
| 16:00 | <Guest690> | ok |
| 16:00 | <sney> | !bullseye sources.list |
| 16:00 | <dpkg> | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for "Bullseye" has three lines: "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main" "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main". Note that bullseye does not yet have security support and is a <moving target>. See <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <bullseye-security>, or <bullseye-updates> and "man sources.list". |
| 16:01 | <sney> | you can use any mirror instead of deb.debian.org, this is the syntax |
| 16:01 | <Guest690> | thankjs |
| 16:01 | <sney> | np |
| 16:01 | <Guest690> | is there a utility for this to choose a new mirror |
| 16:01 | <Guest690> | e.g dpkg-reconfigure |
| 16:02 | <sney> | ,i netselect-apt |
| 16:02 | <judd> | Package netselect-apt (net, optional) in buster/amd64: speed tester for choosing a fast Debian mirror. Version: 0.3.ds1-28; Size: 18.3k; Installed: 41k; Homepage: http://github.com/apenwarr/netselect |
| 16:02 | <Guest690> | thanks |
| 16:03 | <sney> | np, usually deb.debian.org is fastest because of the cdn, but it might not work great on some networks. |
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| 16:04 | <ansgar> | dpkg: bullseye sources.list =~ s/http:/https:/g |
| 16:04 | <dpkg> | OK, ansgar |
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| 16:06 | <Guest690> | ok that seems to have fixed it |
| 16:06 | <Guest690> | thanks |
| 16:06 | <Guest690> | i can update |
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| 16:16 | <r4fkramer> | Now, I got a bit confused: if debian bullseye still doesn't have security support, why do we use 'deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free' ? |
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| 16:16 | <quadrat> | r4fkramer the repo exists, but is empty, only when bullseye is released, packages are pushed into that repo |
| 16:16 | <r4fkramer> | Not everyone, but I use non-free repos for debian |
| 16:16 | <quadrat> | out of convenience it is already there |
| 16:17 | <Guest690> | so it is there ready for final release |
| 16:17 | <quadrat> | yes |
| 16:17 | <r4fkramer> | Fine quadrat, thank you for information :) |
| 16:17 | <quadrat> | so people can already use it in the sources.list file without any errors |
| 16:18 | <r4fkramer> | but backports in bullseye is not recommended ? |
| 16:18 | <quadrat> | r4fkramer why wouldn't it? same thing, repo exists, but empty |
| 16:18 | <r4fkramer> | Oh, fine |
| 16:19 | <quadrat> | btw same with bullseye-updates ;) |
| 16:20 | <r4fkramer> | Thank you or clarifying quadrat - I am really anxious for bullseye stable. |
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| 16:21 | <Guest690> | ok i am off to move data to new system |
| 16:21 | <Guest690> | tthanks |
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| 16:24 | <r4fkramer> | Please quadrat, a question has arisen here: what about when upgrades are flagged to be done after giving the command 'apt update && apt upgrade in bullseye ? I experience this situation often around here. |
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| 16:25 | <vv221> | What do you call « upgrades flagged to be done » ? |
| 16:25 | <r4fkramer> | Always I have impression that bullseye is performing some upgrades whenever it happens... |
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| 16:26 | <r4fkramer> | vv221, bad vocabulary, sorry. I meant: when apparently some upgrades are available. |
| 16:26 | <quadrat> | r4fkramer the only thing i can guess is that there are a lot of updates, to fix bugs (so that bullseye can get released) |
| 16:26 | <vv221> | If you ran `apt update && apt upgrade`, most of the time there should be no remaining pending package upgrade. |
| 16:27 | <r4fkramer> | I see, quadrat, now it's clear for me, thank you very much. |
| 16:28 | <NthDegree> | It might be worth keeping in mind "doesn't have security support" means that patches for CVEs are still on the package maintainer |
| 16:29 | <r4fkramer> | Thank you for explaining, vv221 |
| 16:29 | <NthDegree> | (as opposed to receiving DSAs where a team checks to make sure everything is patched in a very timely manner) |
| 16:30 | <r4fkramer> | Ok NthDegree, nice information. Thank you very much for that :) |
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| 16:31 | <r4fkramer> | Sometimes these questions related to CVEs and DSAs weren't so clear for me. Thank you for explanation, clear and concise |
| 16:32 | <vv221> | Well, actually the security part is really easy: |
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| 16:32 | <vv221> | - if you have strong security concerns, use the current Debian stable |
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| 16:32 | <vv221> | - otherzise, use Debian Sid |
| 16:32 | <vv221> | Done ;P |
| 16:33 | <vv221> | Every other branch/distro/OS out there is only there to give the illusion of choice. |
| 16:33 | <r4fkramer> | vv221, that is the first time I'm using testing version of bullseye. I've always been using stable branch. |
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| 16:34 | <vv221> | By the way, we have a dedicated IRC channel for testing/unstable discussion: #debian-next |
| 16:35 | <NthDegree> | vv221, you say that... but https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/libsepol |
| 16:35 | <r4fkramer> | Thank you vv221, I promise I will not get this channel full of bullseye questions - sorry when it has happened. |
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| 16:36 | <vv221> | NthDegree, I’m quite sure it’s about my half-serious message stable vs. Sid vs. the world, but I do not get what I should see on this page ;) |
| 16:37 | <NthDegree> | vv221, the first vuln on that list is marked as minor issue but then the severity isn't low on the actual source info for it |
| 16:39 | * | NthDegree finds the decision-making process a tad confusing for some of these |
| 16:40 | <vv221> | To be fair, I have a blind trust in Debian security team. Mostly because I have almost no knowledge in this field, so I need to trust some team anyway ;) |
| 16:42 | <NthDegree> | The one I've noticed is lulz too because the "fix" is a documentation update, so the NVD is totally glitched |
| 16:44 | <r4fkramer> | Despite the fact I have to trust all debian teams, I don't care about that, as the end result of this OS never disappointed me :). |
| 16:44 | <NthDegree> | and it looks like the discrepancy is between CVSS 2 (which rates it Low) and CVSS 3 (which rates it Medium) |
| 16:45 | <r4fkramer> | I am an Eternal Loyal User of Debian. I will never exchange it for any other Linux Project, no matter what. |
| 16:46 | <NthDegree> | I can see the logic as to why it's flagged as minor, as it's a vuln which would only apply to compiling policy when it's due to be added to the kernel |
| 16:47 | <Konomi> | I'm having trouble with a SSL certificate error with curl `$ curl -I https://www2.health.vic.gov.au/` `curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate`, works fine in firefox anyone know if the debian certs are out of date or something? |
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| 16:51 | <NthDegree> | Konomi, I'm gonna check where curl looks for certs now |
| 16:52 | <Konomi> | I presume ca-certificates package |
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| 16:54 | <NthDegree> | it checks here: |
| 16:54 | <NthDegree> | * CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt |
| 16:54 | <NthDegree> | * CApath: /etc/ssl/certs |
| 16:54 | <NthDegree> | and that points to a bunch of symlinks :| |
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| 16:57 | <echoSMILE> | After an upgrade is there the possibility to ipv6 been activated and firewall rules being altered? |
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| 16:58 | <Konomi> | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ca-certificates/+bug/1795242 |
| 16:58 | <virtu> | hey, I am learning Python (old guy trying to learn a new skill) and I am not sure which software to use: visual studio or what? |
| 17:00 | <sney> | virtu: most of us will just use a basic text editor, like nano/vim/emacs etc. a full IDE is overkill for just learning, and may get in your way if it has any kind of autocorrect features |
| 17:00 | <NthDegree> | Konomi, that would imply that bug has existed for years :| |
| 17:00 | <ratrace> | virtu: pycharm, if you want a quality python IDE |
| 17:00 | <Konomi> | NthDegree: seems so |
| 17:00 | <NthDegree> | and it exists in Bullseye too |
| 17:00 | <Konomi> | the certificate chain is incomplete but included in firefox's own certiccate store |
| 17:00 | <virtu> | sney: thanks, I was using nano with highlight syntax |
| 17:00 | <Konomi> | but not in ca-cerfiticates |
| 17:01 | <virtu> | ratrace: ok, thanks :) |
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| 17:03 | <sney> | echoSMILE: it's unlikely but depends on how those things were configured prior to the upgrade. |
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| 17:04 | <virtu> | sney: to run the .py file then just run python example.py on a shell, right? |
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| 17:04 | <Konomi> | oh well since ultimately it's digicert issue/site nothing to be done |
| 17:05 | <Konomi> | (I really wish people would stop using digicert) |
| 17:05 | <sney> | virtu: you should get used to specifying the python version, so python3 foo.py rather than python foo.py, but otherwise that's right. I usually keep 2 term windows open, one for the editor and one for running the script. |
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| 17:05 | <virtu> | sney: ok, perfect. |
| 17:06 | <virtu> | sney: thanks |
| 17:06 | <sney> | np, enjoy |
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| 17:08 | <echoSMILE> | sney: about ipv6, I manage the network settings with network manager from xfce and ipv6 still is disabled, but ipv6 is being running. About firewall rules, I have a script with the rules and weird enough, the rules from that script are executed at boot but the policies are all ACCEPT where at the script they are DROP. |
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| 17:12 | <virtu> | sney: I am using 3 sources of material to learn: Python 101 from Python library (which probably is the best, only the language is not very beginner friendly), Microsoft Docs take your first steps with Python (Visual Studio tutorials), and Brilliant, but brilliant is very nce, but free version do not cover everything |
| 17:12 | <virtu> | sney: what about https://www.udemy.com/course/python-the-complete-python-developer-course/ |
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| 19:24 | <user01> | hi if i have 3 2 TB hard drives and want to copy the all their data onto a new 14tb usb drive with verification that all files copied successfully, when is the best way to do this? |
| 19:25 | <user01> | cp? |
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| 19:25 | <sney> | rsync |
| 19:25 | <user01> | ok |
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| 19:28 | <user01> | sney, so like rsnc -avh /source/target ? |
| 19:28 | <sney> | I am reasonably sure the rsync man page has several very clear examples |
| 19:28 | <user01> | sney, ok then |
| 19:29 | <user01> | sney, oh yeah -avPc might be better with the progress bar |
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| 19:30 | <user01> | and checksum |
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| 19:31 | <sney> | it is intended for what you're doing, even -a would be fine. and make sure you test it with one or two small directories so you understand when to use a trailing / |
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| 19:33 | <jhutchins> | user01: The syntax by which you specify source and destination is critical. If you're sloppy, you'll end up with /foo/foo/foo |
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| 19:34 | <jim> | in the emacs I installed from backports, ctrl-x ctrl-f <filename> works, but invoking emacs like this: emacs <filename> does not... do I need to install something else to get it to recognize plain text files that are specified on the shell command line when starting emacs? |
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| 19:35 | <sarnold> | user01: you may also wish to use sha256sum or md5sum or something to verify the copies, eg find /etc -type f -exec sha256sum {} + | sha256sum -c --quiet |
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| 19:44 | <user01> | jhutchins, i was going to do rsync -avPc /media/user01/2tb20190305 /media/user01/14tb20210713 |
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| 19:45 | <user01> | each drive as a folder |
| 19:47 | <user01> | the data is somewhat sorted but i figure if i just get all the data onto one drive i can organize it better and not have 3 drives plugged in |
| 19:47 | <user01> | then i can store these old drives as backups |
| 19:49 | <user01> | seagate sent my a free 14tb hard drive cause they lost my 4tb one |
| 19:52 | <gry> | spectacular |
| 19:54 | <dvs> | O_O |
| 19:54 | <sney> | nice, free 10tb |
| 19:55 | <quadrat> | +x amount of years |
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| 19:57 | <user01> | they were supposed to send me a replacement 4tb and they sent a 1tb after 3 months and as an apology they sent a 14tb |
| 19:58 | <user01> | how long do you reckon it will take to transfer 2TB via USB and rsync? |
| 19:59 | <quadrat> | usb 2 or 3? |
| 19:59 | <user01> | 3 |
| 19:59 | <somiaj> | a lot involved in that, but with usb3 faster than you would think, with usb2 way slower than you would want is my experience. |
| 19:59 | <sney> | depends on the files, usb standard, various other factors, but I'd say start it when you go to sleep so it'll be done in the morning |
| 19:59 | <quadrat> | my crappy 2.5" copies at about 50MB/s |
| 20:00 | <user01> | well i assume it will be awhile . . . i dont even have a progress bar yet . . . still sendin file list |
| 20:00 | <user01> | incremental file list |
| 20:00 | <sney> | it'll be a few hours at least, most likely. it's a lot of data to transfer. |
| 20:01 | <user01> | yes, i debated cleaning up the disks before doing it, but i figured it would be easier to just transfer everything to one disk first and prune from there |
| 20:02 | <user01> | at some point i will invest in a NAS . . . |
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| 20:02 | <sussudio> | 2TB takes about 12-24 hours |
| 20:02 | <user01> | not really worth it though i dont think as a single user |
| 20:04 | <sney> | I have a vm hypervisor and one of the vms is a nas, if you have a lot of data and more than one computer that wants to access that data, some kind of network storage is a good idea. even with only 1 person in the house. |
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| 20:04 | <user01> | sney, yes, those drives are so expensive though |
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| 20:04 | <user01> | sney, and you need at least two for redundancy |
| 20:05 | <sney> | you have 3 2TB hard drives already, that's a good start |
| 20:05 | <user01> | sney, external usb |
| 20:05 | <sney> | there's always a conventional disk in that box |
| 20:05 | <sney> | and watch out for discounts etc |
| 20:06 | <user01> | sney, whats wrong with discounts? |
| 20:06 | <sney> | no I mean, pay attention to discounts, so you can get some disks when they are cheap |
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| 20:07 | <user01> | sney, i was contemplating getting a 2 bay NAS with larger drives than 4 drives with smaller disks |
| 20:07 | <sney> | there are a lot of options for network file storage. |
| 20:08 | <user01> | because NAS drives are crazy expensive |
| 20:08 | <user01> | at almost any size |
| 20:08 | <quadrat> | user01 it really depends on what you do if it's worth it to go 4bay in comparison to 2bay, and how much data you have |
| 20:08 | <sney> | don't get fooled by drives that say "nas" on them being the only appropriate drive type. that's almost all marketing, for a home user it does not matter what the sticker on the drive says |
| 20:09 | <user01> | i guess im at about 10 - 12 GB of data -- but i probably dont need all of that available on a NAS all the time |
| 20:10 | <user01> | sorry TB i mean |
| 20:10 | <sarnold> | normally those "NAS" drives offer (a) better vibration handling (b) TLER -- time-limited error response or something similar, so they'll give up rather than try for 30 seconds to read a bad sector (c) better warranties |
| 20:10 | <sarnold> | the vibration stuff probably doesn't matter much for four drives |
| 20:10 | <sney> | right, and if your budget only has room for a couple of desktop drives, then that will still be fine |
| 20:10 | <sarnold> | though maybe (d) none of that shingled-magnetic-recording crap |
| 20:10 | <sney> | source: lots of experience |
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| 20:11 | <user01> | ive tried shopping for a NAS but too many options to choose from i probably just gave up |
| 20:12 | <user01> | they release a new one every 3 months it seems |
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| 20:13 | <somiaj> | I think a lot also depends on how you want to access it. |
| 20:14 | <sney> | the synology stuff is pretty popular, though with reasonable linux knowledge you can just put samba on a computer |
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| 20:22 | <mason> | SuperMicro-based servers and chassis work pretty well and are available for not-a-ton on eBay. |
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| 20:23 | <sarnold> | also not that quiet :) heh |
| 20:23 | <mason> | No, but their being in the cellar helps. Good point though. Not everyone has a cellar. |
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| 20:23 | <mason> | (Cellar's also nice and cool even without AC.) |
| 20:24 | <sarnold> | I've heard there are quieter powersupplies and hotswap fans available |
| 20:24 | <sney> | for home use, some <10 year old refurb desktop is more than enough too, as long as it has a bunch of sata ports. the cheap stuff goes a long way. |
| 20:24 | <sarnold> | mine's in my basement, and it's actually off at the moment because it's something like 200W of heat non-stop, hah |
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| 20:47 | * | Hotswap fans |
| 20:47 | <sarnold> | :D |
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| 21:01 | <syli> | Hello, I want to call nftables via the C API, but I don't know how to use the libnftnl library. Where can I find the libnftnl library description? |
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| 21:03 | <abrotman> | there's both a -dev and a -dev-doc package |
| 21:05 | <raven523> | syli: there are examples in libnftnl's source code, but I don't know if they're included in the packages abrotman mentioned: https://git.netfilter.org/libnftnl/tree/examples |
| 21:08 | <syli> | yes, the source code include a lot of examples, but no comment in the source code. |
| 21:08 | <raven523> | this is typical for open source libraries |
| 21:09 | <raven523> | it looks like the sources can generate docs with doxygen |
| 21:10 | <syli> | How to generate, is there a link? |
| 21:11 | <raven523> | I'm not sure, but it probably involves invoking the command "doxygen" |
| 21:12 | <syli> | Thanks, I'll have a try. |
| 21:13 | <raven523> | maybe "doxygen doxygen.cfg" after building the sources |
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| 21:16 | <raven523> | there is libnftables, which might be easier to use than libnftnl |
| 21:16 | <raven523> | it appears to be part of nftables itself instead of a separate source distribution like libnftnl |
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| 21:39 | <sonafamily> | hello |
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| 21:43 | <syli> | Thanks raven523! I generated the documentation through Doxygen, which helped me understand the source code to some extent. |
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| 21:43 | <syli> | Of course, it would be nice to have a functional description |
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| 22:54 | <r4fkramer> | Please, I accidentally deleted several files that were in the trash. Is there a practical and quick way to recover these files? Or is it a somewhat bureaucratic and time-consuming task? |
| 22:55 | <r4fkramer> | I use mate desktop environment in debian buster. |
| 22:58 | <nevyn> | there's an ext undeleter .. but you get to keep both halves |
| 23:01 | <r4fkramer> | Fine nevyn, Please, how to I proceed ? |
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| 23:19 | <Sqrt{not}> | r4fkramer, start with: man extundelete |
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