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02:19 | <otisolsen70> | I am migrating network config from /etc/network/interfaces to NetworkManager. One of my NICs (eth0) has an alias (eth0:0) configured with an additional static IP address. This is needed because I need a way to reliably connect to this headless device on any network. And I might not know what net config it will obtain from DHCP. NM appearently, will not allow me to have aliases. What alternative solution can I use to realiable find my |
02:19 | <otisolsen70> | device? |
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03:30 | <jm_> | does NM allow for something like up/post-up in ifupdown? |
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03:41 | <ansgar> | jm_: Dispatcher Scripts in man:NetworkManager(8) |
03:43 | <jm_> | ansgar: thank you and I forgot to first check if otisolsen70 i still here, it was meant as an alternative for his use case |
03:46 | <otisolsen70> | jm_ I am still here |
03:47 | <otisolsen70> | jm_, not sure if it supports that. However, I found a way to add an extra address to the NIC by adding address1=a.b.c.d |
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03:48 | <jm_> | otisolsen70: apparently it does, but doing it your way is much simpler |
03:51 | <otisolsen70> | I have both ethernet and wifi connections configured with NM and a priority defined for each. When ethernet and wifi is available, then if one wifi is available, it will happily connect to both wifi an eth. But if another wifi is avialble, it will connect to this wifi and DISCONNECT from eth. What can cause this? |
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03:55 | <tarzeau> | [A |
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08:01 | <cpach> | trying to install mariadb-server via ansible's apt module. for some reason it fails. this is the command i run: 'ansible db -b -m apt -a "name=mariadb-server state=present"' |
08:01 | <cpach> | result: '192.168.60.6 | FAILED! => { "changed": false, "msg": "No package matching 'mariadb-server' is available" }' |
08:01 | <cpach> | any clues as to why this fails? |
08:01 | <cpach> | could it perhaps be that it somehow fails because mariadb-server is a meta-package...? |
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08:02 | <cpach> | hm... no |
08:02 | <cpach> | it's probably because 'apt-get update' hasn't ran yet |
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08:03 | <francois13> | good |
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08:39 | <cpach> | ok another ansible question: any ideas how to reduce the amount of output from apt...? |
08:39 | <cpach> | when i ran 'ansible db -b -m apt -a "name=mariadb-server state=present update_cache=yes"' i got over 200 lines of output, which i think is too much |
08:39 | <cpach> | it looks like this: https://paste.debian.net/1206666/ |
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08:42 | <format_c> | Just redirect the standard output to /dev/null |
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09:17 | <jordie> | good morning |
09:17 | <alex11> | morning |
09:18 | <jordie> | I've problems for updates from debian |
09:19 | <jordie> | excuse mebut my english is very poor |
09:20 | <jordie> | can you understand spanish? |
09:20 | <Anarka> | !es |
09:20 | <dpkg> | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat. - https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/ |
09:20 | <Anarka> | if you wanna try in english go for it |
09:20 | <jordie> | thank you very much |
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11:56 | <r4fkramer> | Hi all. No technical issues today. Just paying a visit to the Debian Warriors on this Channel, as it is not advisable to stay away from your positive inspiration for too long :) |
12:02 | <Talby> | Seems that I am doing fine, too, no technical issues . I am for the first time exploring to use Thunderbird as an IRC client. |
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12:08 | <Talby> | New (again) to IRC. I get the following message. Is this simply a race condition and finally everything is OK, or am I supposed to get something more configured or entered or send to nickserv? |
12:08 | <Talby> | NickServ: This nickname is registered and protected. If it is your nickname, you may |
12:08 | <Talby> | NickServ: authenticate yourself to services with the IDENTIFY command. You are |
12:08 | <Talby> | NickServ: getting this message because you are not on the access list for the |
12:08 | <Talby> | NickServ: Talby nickname. |
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12:15 | <Talby> | Sorry for flooding. I became kicked already by debhelper. Bad start. will have to RTFM once more. :-( |
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12:16 | <imMute> | Talby: some networks allow you to authenticate to NickServ while connection, usually by SASL. I'm not sure about OFTC though. |
12:16 | <ansgar> | Talby: I think questions about using NickServ are more appropriate in #oftc. |
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12:17 | <ansgar> | Talby: And if you have longer quotes (log file excerpts, ...) , paste them on some page like https://paste.debian.net and share the link. |
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12:28 | <jkc> | Talby: If you set up certfp authentication, you can auth to services during connection. |
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12:32 | <Talby> | Thank You all for the helpful tips. |
12:36 | <Talby> | I quickly found out that Thunderbird as an IRC client does not allow me to configure it sufficiently to the wanted details. |
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12:36 | <Talby> | GUI and and Login options miss to much in comparison to Konversation or HexChat. I will be back later when having set up one of the other clients. Bye. |
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12:39 | <jealousmonk> | hi! suppose i have some package installed and want to contribute in the upstream development, and thus needing to build from source and install for tests. how to do that without conflicting with the existing system? |
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12:41 | <imMute> | jealousmonk: depends on the package. for some application you could just build locally and run out of the build directory. if you need to test package installation, then you'll need to remove the apt-installed one. this might be best done in a VM so you don't trash your host system |
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12:47 | <jealousmonk> | imMute: a VM, then. alright, thanks! |
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12:52 | <goat777> | is there a room for Kali linux? |
12:53 | <jmcnaught> | !kali |
12:53 | <dpkg> | Kali Linux https://kali.org/ is a security/penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but is different enough that we don't provide support in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.libera.chat or https://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian> and read https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html |
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12:53 | <goat777> | thanks bro |
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13:52 | <scorpion2185[m]> | `Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.systemd1.UnitMasked: Unit -.mount is masked.` |
13:52 | <scorpion2185[m]> | I got that after an apt command, maybe I just need to reboot, I am not having problems |
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14:19 | <diogenes_oftc> | scorpion2185[m], close gparted |
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14:43 | <metallic> | Hello eveyone, I am having a problem with grub2. I want it to load a background image of my choice. I've set the GRUB_BACKGROUND variable in the /etc/default/grub file, then run update-grub (which tells it found the image specified in GRUB_BACKGROUND), but on reboot the image didn't load. I've tried .jpg and .png images and I have no clue of what's going wrong |
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14:45 | <jkc> | Where is the image located? |
14:45 | <metallic> | /home/Pictures |
14:45 | <sussudio> | metallic: it's 256 colours max, right. |
14:45 | <metallic> | errr don't know :/ sussudio |
14:46 | <jkc> | sussudio: No. |
14:46 | <jkc> | metallic: Try throwing it in /boot. |
14:46 | <jkc> | And adjust the GRUB_BACKGROUND variable accordingly. |
14:46 | <metallic> | jkc, I tried that too, didn't work. I've been following the Debian's wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/Grub2 |
14:46 | <sarnold> | metallic: are you sure you're using the gfxterm console type? with the right resolution? |
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14:47 | <metallic> | samnob, honestly, I am not sure, I didn't touch anything beyond setting GRUB_BACKGROUND in /etc/default/grub ^^' |
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14:48 | <Sqrt{not}> | metallic, also "/home/Pictures" is an unlikely directory. are you sure? usually there is not a user Pictures |
14:48 | <metallic> | Sqrt{not}, right! I meant /home/my-user/Pictures ^^' |
14:48 | <metallic> | sorry |
14:50 | <metallic> | I suspect the problem has to do with my partition table: I have 2 primary partitions and 3 logic partitions, two of the latter are Debian and Ubuntu. On a virtual machine with Debian on the whole virtual disk I didn't have any trouble loading the background :/ |
14:51 | <sussudio> | /home would also have to be mounted at the time it tried to load the picture |
14:51 | <metallic> | Also, when on the grub menu, I am able to manually load the background image with the commands "insmod jpeg" and "background_image path-to-image" |
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14:52 | <metallic> | sussudio, it is, since I am able to manually access the image stored there via the grub terminal command "background_image". That's why I am unsure of what could be possibly going wrong here :( |
14:55 | <sussudio> | is there anything in the boot log |
14:56 | <metallic> | boot log? Where should that be located? |
14:56 | <metallic> | /var/log/boot.log maybe? |
14:57 | <sussudio> | if there isn't a seperate bootlog, it would be in dmesg |
14:58 | <metallic> | what do you suggest I should be looking for? |
14:59 | <towo`> | dmesg starts after grub |
14:59 | <sussudio> | or you could install grub-customizer |
15:00 | <metallic> | well, yes, I could and I thought of doing so, but can't be sure the problem will not appear with grub-customizer. |
15:01 | <metallic> | Maybe grub logs its actions to a file, is that it? In such case, do you know where is it? |
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15:06 | <sussudio> | htps://stackoverflow.com/questions/34938067/reading-grub2-debug-logs/41151245#41151245 |
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15:13 | <metallic> | sussudio, the problem with that question is the user does not know where the logs are stored (and even if they are stored at all) |
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15:16 | <diogenes_oftc> | metallic, 1) convert jpg to png and rename your pic to desktop-grub.png 2) sudo mv /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png.bak 3) sudo cp /home/username/Pictures/desktop-grub.png /usr/share/images/desktop-base 4) sudo update-grub |
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15:17 | <diogenes_oftc> | and comment out GRUB_BACKGROUND |
15:18 | <metallic> | if I comment out the variable GRUB_BACKGROUND and have none placed in /boot/grub, grub will not be aware of any image to use as background, no? |
15:19 | <diogenes_oftc> | by default it uses /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png |
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15:20 | <metallic> | mmmm I see, there are some scripts named "grub_background.sh" with a WALLPAPER variable set to that you mentioned |
15:20 | <metallic> | let me try it out (must reboot) |
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15:25 | <metallic> | will be right back |
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15:34 | <metallic> | Well, I am back with bad news, it didn't work :( |
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15:35 | <diogenes_oftc> | check the size, mine is 154 kib. |
15:35 | <metallic> | I commented out GRUB_BACKGROUND variable in /etc/default/grub and had no image in /boot/grub. When running update-grub it said "Found background image: /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png" |
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15:35 | <zleap> | I have come to the conclusion that Debian 10 does not like my netbook |
15:36 | <diogenes_oftc> | size ^^ metallic |
15:36 | <metallic> | diogenes_oftc, mine is 448Kib |
15:36 | <zleap> | just tried to install Debian 11, failed to set a server for the respository |
15:36 | <metallic> | a .png one |
15:36 | <zleap> | i skipped that section and added deb.debian.org etc manually to /etc/apt/sources.list and it won't resolve, i am using the same one on this desktop |
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15:38 | <sussudio> | zleap: does it have a working internet connection |
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15:38 | <metallic> | diogenes_oftc, the point is that grub did not actually looked for the image in /usr/share/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png but rather the image /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png; which is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/desktop-grub which is in turn a symlink to /usr/share/desktop-base/active-theme/grub/grub-4x3.png |
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15:38 | <zleap> | yes |
15:39 | <zleap> | well that connection works on other computers |
15:39 | <diogenes_oftc> | metallic, size too large, reduce quality to 150 |
15:39 | <Sqrt{not}> | zleap, are you in the installer now? |
15:40 | <sussudio> | zleap: so no. is there anything in the logs about firmware missing |
15:40 | <zleap> | sussudio, i have had this before on the same netbooks |
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15:40 | <zleap> | i am using the non free iso, but I am plugged in to the network (wired) |
15:42 | <zleap> | which has an ip address |
15:42 | <sussudio> | can you ping something outside your lan |
15:42 | <zleap> | temp failire to resolve deb.debian.org when I try apt update |
15:43 | <zleap> | it seems not, |
15:43 | <metallic> | diogenes_oftc, I've replaced that png image by another of 12k. But I don't think it is going to work this time either, update-grub tells me it founds the background image in another path /usr/share/image/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png not /usr/share/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png |
15:43 | <metallic> | In any case, let me give it a try, will be right back :) |
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15:43 | <zleap> | oddly I had 1 netbook, that worked fine with debian 10, upgraded it to debian 11 (testing) and during the process networking just broke |
15:44 | <zleap> | ok i get temporary failure in name resolution for ping google.com |
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15:45 | <sussudio> | yeah, since you have no working internet connection... have you tried taking the interface down and up again |
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15:46 | <sussudio> | an upgrade fucked my networking too, it swapped ethernet ports for some reason, but most laptops won't have more than 1. |
15:47 | <zleap> | how do I do that ifdown ifup |
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15:48 | <sussudio> | yes |
15:48 | <sussudio> | ifdown eth0 |
15:48 | <sussudio> | etc. |
15:49 | <sussudio> | assuming you still have normal interface names, and not the /dev/random shit that seems to be the thing these days. |
15:49 | <zleap> | I am stuck with dev random stuff which is meaningless |
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15:49 | <zleap> | i don't know how to fix that |
15:49 | <sussudio> | well if you type ifconfig, it will show the interfaces. |
15:49 | <metallic> | well, I am back, once again, with the same results |
15:49 | <zleap> | enp1s0f0 |
15:49 | <zleap> | or something |
15:50 | <metallic> | diogenes_oftc, it didn't work this time either |
15:50 | <sussudio> | well, do ifdown enp1s0f0 and then ifup enp1s0f0 |
15:50 | <metallic> | but I am able to load the .png image stored in /home/my-user/Pictures |
15:50 | <sussudio> | if it still uses ifdown/up... |
15:50 | <metallic> | I mean, manually from the grub terminal (press c in the grub menu) |
15:50 | <zleap> | well ifup is there just says unknown interface |
15:51 | <zleap> | why does it not just give eth0 as the interface |
15:51 | <diogenes_oftc> | metallic, for me it works 100%. |
15:51 | <zleap> | that used to be logical and easier to type |
15:51 | <metallic> | diogenes_oftc, do you have more than one OS installed? |
15:52 | <diogenes_oftc> | used to but not now |
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15:52 | <metallic> | I really think it has something to do with it, when issuing the command "ls /" in the grub terminal it shows the content of the /home directory, which I have located in my first logical partition (the other two logical parts are Debian and Ubuntu system) |
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15:54 | <zleap> | my main netbook is similar to this other netbook ( I have several) so I am really reluctant to update it to Debian 11 |
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15:54 | <metallic> | I am going to try your advices in the virtual machine, to check it has no problems with one single OS on the whole disk. Beyond that, I think I need to find out if grub logs to a file or not. Or maybe try to create my own menuentry :/ |
15:55 | <metallic> | anyway thanks for the pacience and help, diogenes_oftc, sussudio and some other which I can't remember after 2 reboots ^^' |
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15:56 | <sussudio> | zleap: breaking stuff that has worked for decades seems to be a thing that's forced upon users now. |
15:56 | <zleap> | yeah |
15:57 | * | azeem yearns the days where xorg.conf just broke without somebody changing anything |
15:57 | <sussudio> | will it let you do ifup eth0 |
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15:57 | <zleap> | i may just download Debian 10.10 , make another usb stick with that on, and then re-install |
15:57 | <zleap> | that will at least fix a few other things |
15:57 | <zleap> | but a fresh install will be good anyway |
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16:00 | <sussudio> | what about ifup -a |
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16:05 | <zleap> | hmm |
16:05 | <zleap> | i will try that tomorrow , I am at a fsf meeting at the moment |
16:06 | <zleap> | i guess hat just does all interfaces |
16:07 | <sussudio> | yes |
16:07 | <zleap> | ok cool |
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16:36 | <sney> | Langley: correct, mesa 20 is in bullseye. though if there's demand, 21 or later could eventually be included in bullseye-backports |
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16:39 | <vv221> | I thought Mesa was a bit too big to get backports, but I see we actually had Mesa 18 in Stretch backports. |
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17:16 | <FLHerne> | It's sometimes quite important to backport, because of support for new hardware generations |
17:17 | <FLHerne> | Buying a new laptop and having no working graphics accel is a bad experience |
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17:19 | <ronoaldo> | There is an experimental package for mesa 21.. I tried to build a newer version myself to see if it was better, but it wasn't and the newer version has a dependency that needs to be updated... |
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17:20 | <ronoaldo> | anyways, mesa 20 is working very well for me - I got *very* suprised to use several games from my steam library with excelent support |
17:20 | <ronoaldo> | I did the sacrilegy to use proprietary firmware tho but without it things don't work very well yet :( |
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17:33 | <Sqrt{not}> | ronoaldo, almost all firmware is proprietary -- sad but true |
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17:36 | <vv221> | ronoaldo, you mentioned Steam, a non-free software used to run DRM-ridden non-free games… I think non-free firmware is no longer an issue at this point ;P |
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18:39 | <jochum> | ronoaldo: you try to get a game running where you need a newer version of mesa? |
18:40 | <jochum> | I got that working - running Forza 4 or something on my main Computer. |
18:40 | <jochum> | ??popos |
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19:37 | <Aza> | hi |
19:39 | <somiaj> | greetings |
19:40 | <Aza> | just installed debian for the first time |
19:40 | <Aza> | excited to learn it |
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19:48 | <somiaj> | Aza: this is a good place to ask questions about Debian if you have any issues. Which version did you install? |
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19:51 | <Aza> | 10 |
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19:52 | <Aza> | dont have an user interfacer or wifi working right now |
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19:53 | <somiaj> | Is this on a laptop with Wifi? |
19:53 | <Aza> | old desktop |
19:53 | <somiaj> | Note, Debian 11 is almost ready to be released, a bit over a week, so there is that milestone comming up |
19:54 | <Aza> | are there big changes? |
19:54 | <somiaj> | well if you want help with anything in patricular such as, "I can't get my network up", we can help with that |
19:54 | <Aza> | well my wifi card install failed because of a firmware issue |
19:55 | <somiaj> | Unsure what you mean by big changes, there are lots, basically about two years of newer software upgrades, a few new software options, but a lot of the basics are similar |
19:55 | <somiaj> | ahh yea, it is a wifi card, if you let us know the chipset we can point you at the right firmware package to download, though there is also an unoffical firmware installer that includes the firmware. |
19:55 | <somiaj> | !firmware installer |
19:55 | <dpkg> | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
19:55 | <somiaj> | !firmware images |
19:55 | <dpkg> | There are <live> system and <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages available from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ The images are "unofficial" because "official Debian" includes only 100% free software. They are otherwise identical to the normal installer images and prepared by the same Debian Developers. See <check iso>. |
19:57 | <somiaj> | The only reason I mention debian 11, is many prefer more recent software versions, but mostly if learning debian, it is a good place to start, though you can install bullseye now, it won't offically be released and have security support for just over a week. |
19:57 | <Aza> | so does this mean I need to reinstall? |
19:57 | <somiaj> | No, you can just download the firwmare, and go from there, no need to reinstall |
19:57 | <somiaj> | you can also upgrade from version 10 to version 11 without reinstalling |
19:57 | <jochum> | !popos |
19:57 | <jochum> | hmm |
19:58 | <jochum> | I hoped it give's a chat, someone is asking |
19:58 | <Aza> | this is the issue with the wifi card btw |
19:58 | <Aza> | https://wiki.debian.org/rt2860sta |
20:00 | <somiaj> | Aza: https://packages.debian.org/buster/firmware-ralink and https://packages.debian.org/buster/firmware-misc-nonfree -- you could manually download those two packages, then dpkg -i foo1.deb foo2.deb to install them, reboot and your wifi card should work (After that you need to configure it) |
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20:04 | <Aza> | ok so I can't download this on my windows computer? im trying and nothings happening |
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20:09 | <Aza> | nevermind figured it out |
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20:18 | <Aza> | lol now it's telling me I'm not the root user |
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20:20 | <sney> | !permission denied |
20:20 | <dpkg> | Most system administration tasks, particularly updating apt's package lists or installing packages, need to be done as root. If you try as a regular user, you may see a "Permission Denied" message; this is normal. How you become root is up to you, see <sudo> and <su> for popular methods. |
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20:22 | <Sqrt{not}> | aza, how did you become root? |
20:22 | <Aza> | I used su |
20:22 | <Sqrt{not}> | now you must do: su - |
20:22 | <Sqrt{not}> | without the minus, you don't get root's PATH |
20:23 | <sney> | that wouldn't matter for dpkg, though it's still good to know |
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20:25 | <Aza> | I think im still on the root |
20:26 | <Aza> | how can i use foo1.deb if I put the firmware on a flash drive to install? |
20:27 | <Sqrt{not}> | is the flash drive auto-mounted by your desktop environment? |
20:28 | <Aza> | probably not |
20:28 | <Sqrt{not}> | did you install a desktop environment? |
20:28 | <Aza> | its all letters, does that answer your question??? |
20:28 | <Aza> | no icons or mouse |
20:30 | <Sqrt{not}> | OK, you probably have to mount it manually, I guess |
20:31 | <Sqrt{not}> | plug it in, and try `fdisk -l` |
20:33 | <Aza> | ok |
20:33 | <Aza> | found it |
20:37 | <Aza> | its /dev/sdb1 |
20:38 | <Sqrt{not}> | do you know what to do? |
20:38 | <Aza> | nope |
20:39 | <Sqrt{not}> | first, make a mount point for it: mkdir /mymount |
20:40 | <Sqrt{not}> | what kind of filesystem is it? dos-FAT, or NTFS, or what did fdisk call it? |
20:40 | <Aza> | dos |
20:40 | <Aza> | just dos |
20:41 | <Sqrt{not}> | try: mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /mymount |
20:42 | <Aza> | ok no error message |
20:42 | <Aza> | is that good? |
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20:42 | <Sqrt{not}> | yes :) do: cd /mymount and then do ls |
20:44 | <Aza> | im in my mount |
20:44 | <Aza> | 1s doesnt do anything? |
20:45 | <Sqrt{not}> | not 1s it is ls the letter "l" not number "1" |
20:45 | <Aza> | too many arguments |
20:45 | <Sqrt{not}> | what command did you type exactly? |
20:46 | <Aza> | just 1s |
20:47 | <Aza> | root@debian:/mymount# 1s |
20:47 | <Sqrt{not}> | no |
20:47 | <Sqrt{not}> | not the number 1 |
20:47 | <Sqrt{not}> | ls |
20:47 | <sarnold> | lowercase L |
20:47 | <Aza> | ok |
20:48 | <Aza> | it gave me a list of files in the mount |
20:48 | <Sqrt{not}> | very good. are the ones you want to install listed there? |
20:48 | <Aza> | it's in a folder called firmware |
20:49 | <Sqrt{not}> | I suggest then to cd into that folder |
20:49 | <Sqrt{not}> | and do 'ls' again, to see what is there. |
20:50 | <Aza> | got it |
20:50 | <Aza> | found the firles |
20:50 | <Sqrt{not}> | so now you should be good to go, with the dpkg -i commands for whatever .deb files you want to install |
20:51 | <Aza> | error install needs at least on package archife file argument |
20:52 | <Sqrt{not}> | what command did you type, exactly? |
20:52 | <Aza> | dpkg -i |
20:52 | <dpkg> | bugger all, i dunno, Aza |
20:52 | <sarnold> | hah |
20:52 | <sarnold> | such a helpful bot |
20:52 | <Sqrt{not}> | you need to add the filename, for example: dpkg -i robotfirmware.deb |
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20:56 | <Aza> | darn |
20:56 | <Aza> | says no files in directory |
20:57 | <Aza> | ohh |
20:57 | <Aza> | one worked |
20:57 | <somiaj> | since one depends on the other you have to either install both on the same line or in the right order |
20:59 | <Aza> | i did one after the other |
20:59 | <Aza> | no errors |
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20:59 | <somiaj> | now you should be able to reboot, or unload/reload the wifi module |
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21:02 | <Aza> | rebooted |
21:02 | <Aza> | gotta connect to my wifi now |
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21:07 | <Aza> | thats going to be for tomorrow |
21:07 | <Aza> | thanks |
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22:03 | <crazyfrog> | hello, i get problems to created unprivileged containers https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0af415e4/ |
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22:05 | <sarnold> | crazyfrog: two guesses: (a) does your current working directory still exist? (b) try --keyserver instead of -keyserver |
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22:09 | <crazyfrog> | sarnold, looks like it works, he is downloading thank you! :) |
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22:10 | <sarnold> | crazyfrog: woot |
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22:46 | <crazyfrog> | hello again, i have a problem to start the lxc container after installation https://0bin.net/paste/u2QJTE6M#qbogu8VYq5l-3JL0UqC9DM+l0Lb9ejo6IWTeBpKrgcZ |
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