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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-08-07

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01:40<icarus>hello
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01:49<jochum>hi
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01:53<lastrodamo>hi
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02:16<lastrodamo>I install a printer Brother DCP-L3550CDW and install the driver with linux-brprinter-installer
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02:16<lastrodamo>The printer works well but I can't scan a document
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02:16<lastrodamo>xsane retrun http://3dminfographie.com/images/linux/scaner_brother_dcp-l3550cdw_error.png
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02:21<jochum>scan on Linux :/
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02:22<jochum>lastrodamo: translate this maybe it helps you https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/brother-dcp-l3550cdw-scanner-wird-nicht-erkann/
02:22<lastrodamo>jochum, yes i'm in a bad situation for scan
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02:22<lastrodamo>jochum, $ id return
02:22<lastrodamo>,24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),109(netdev)
02:23<jochum>lastrodamo: want me to translate the important parts?
02:23<jochum>lastrodamo: ippusbxd <-- remove that package and have fun (from what i read)
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02:24<lastrodamo>jochum, no I will translate and try to understand thanks for this url
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05:36<colo>vv221, ad "dma": it delivers local mail well enough, and from having a peek at its config, could even serve people well who want a smarthost setup with SASL auth and TLS.
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06:20<vv221>Thanks colo, I think I might start using that for my systems that only need local delivery.
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06:27<plaur>hello, does any desktop environment support wayland on bullseye, besides gnome? the release notes don't mention wayland at all
06:31<grawity>enlightenment has had Wayland support for a long time, but KDE (KWin)'s support is still not quite complete AFAIK, so even if it made to bullseye it might not be great yet
06:38<vv221>I thought KDE would have full Wayland support for a while… Are there some known blockers?
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06:55<FLHerne>At least for my setup, it works near-perfectly with Plasma 5.22
06:55<grawity>hmm my info could very well be outdated then
06:56<FLHerne>Until 5.21 there were some integration problems with GTK apps (clipboard etc)
06:57<FLHerne>and I think scaling issues with high-DPI displays in some configurations
06:58<FLHerne>It's only been working well enough to be indistinguishable from X11 for one or two Plasma releases, which means not that many people have switched yet, which means there's probably a long tail of bugs that people haven't found
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06:58<plaur>i've seen clipboard issues even in fedora gnome, between firefox-wayland and gvim...
06:59<vv221>I’ve seen clipboard issues with X, so this is not a real regression ;)
06:59<plaur>:)
07:00<vv221>(mostly when going from terminal to X applications)
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10:39<Izty_>Hello, I'm looking for a UPS. Will I need a tool such as apcuspd or nut to manage it and know when they're is a power outage?
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10:40<Izty_>Are all UPSs compatible with one of those tools?
10:42<RoyK>Izty_: I'd check with the respecitve tools if they support the ups you choose
10:42<RoyK>Izty_: what sort of ups are you thinking of? some home stuff or something for a datacentre?
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10:46<Izty_>RoyK: I just want something so that my home server turns off gracefully in case of a power outage. But I'd like something rackable
10:47<Izty_>If I could plug my router to it si it powers off gracefully too, I guess it would be ideal
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10:57<RoyK>Izty_: if you can make NUT work with it, you could script up anything, really
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11:01<RoyK>apcupsd sees to be APC only
11:02<Izty_>RoyK: Does it mean that NUT can work with any model?
11:03<blast007>Izty_: https://networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html
11:03<blast007>I'm using it with Eaton 5S UPS units attached via USB
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11:09<blast007>I don't have much experience with it going all the way to the graceful shutdown process though. In theory, the way I have it configured, my Debian PC should shut down first, and then my pfSense firewall.
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11:11<RoyK>Izty_: NUT will work on any model it supports ;)
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11:22<Izty_>RoyK: I see, so I need either an APC model or a model from https://networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html
11:22<Izty_>That's a good starting point :)
11:24<Izty_>blast007: Do you have both your Debian PC and your pfsense machine attached via USB?
11:25<Izty_>Would it be better to have an ethernet port on my UPS? This way any device that listens on the network could shut down gracefully, right?
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11:27<blast007>no, the pfSense system is connected via USB to the UPS and runs NUT in netserver mode, and the Debian PC runs NUT in netclient mode, connecting to the NUT instance on the pfSense system
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11:28<blast007>I did have an extended power outage last week and the pfSense box did shut down gracefully when the UPS hit the low battery threshold (which is 20% in this case), and it told the UPS to do a delayed shut down.
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11:29<scorpion2185[m]>how can I make sure that ~/.profile is read?
11:30<blast007>So when power came back, the UPS turned back on and had about 20% battery remaining. I didn't have my system configured correctly though, so the pfSense system didn't power back on. I needed to set the system to always power on when AC is connected, not restore the last power state.
11:30<blast007>I didn't have my Debian PC on at the time though, so I haven't verified that would shut down as well.
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11:37<blast007>For me, NUT with a USB UPS made sense since the two UPS units are each primarily protecting a system that is always on, so I can run two netserver instances of NUT.
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11:38<Sqrt{not}>scorpion2185[m], is this for root?
11:38<blast007>If you are protecting multiple devices with a single UPS and there isn't one of those devices that will always be on, then a UPS with a network port may be a better option. But I haven't used a networked UPS with Linux before.
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11:41<scorpion2185[m]>Sqrt{not}: yes
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11:42<Izty_>blast007: I see, I didn't know NUT had a client/server architecture.
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11:43<colo>the N in NUT stand for Network :)
11:43<colo>would be a shame if it were limited to one host only
11:43<Izty_>blast007: In either case, I'd need to have my switch plugged in to the UPS if I need network access to reach either the NUT server or the UPS directly, right?
11:43<Izty_>colo: Good point!
11:44<Sqrt{not}>scorpion2185[m], so the idea of "~/" is not really normal for your user
11:45<scorpion2185[m]>it is /root/.profile for root, ~ always means home
11:45<blast007>Izty_: yes, I also have my network switch connected to my UPS
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11:46<scorpion2185[m]>how can I add the games path to `PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"` ?
11:47<scorpion2185[m]>from etc/profile, i can change the $ for users and # for root there lol
11:49<artur>I new here
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11:50<blast007>scorpion2185[m]: I think normal users have /usr/games in their path, but root does not?
11:50<Sqrt{not}>welcome artur
11:51<artur>it is no funny becauose today I realy cauthing for all
11:52<colo>blast007, all work and no plat for root :/ sad!
11:52<colo>play*
11:52<artur>this is of topik but End and inaf
11:52<artur>:)
11:53<artur>Sqrt{not} Thank You very much
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11:55<blast007>artur: do you have a support question regarding Debian Linux?
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11:57<Sqrt{not}>!pl
11:57<dpkg>Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.libera.chat - debian-user-polish@lists.debian.org
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12:02<artur><blast077> kde what is may cat dest now is ok. Im rooke user but for new times I must do something to have be in touth. everything is ok ThX
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12:38<jochum>hi
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12:50<scorpion2185[m]>blast007: yes I added the path to .bashrc since .profile it isn't always read. I posted the default path for root, no games so for exmaple you can't open fortune
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13:18<somiaj>scorpion2185[m]: be careful there, you might end up getting duplicates in your $PATH (not the biggest deal but will happen).
13:18<somiaj>Often times .profile is read first, then when you launch a new shell .bashrc is read, but this new shell will inherit variables already set from the previous shell
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13:21<somiaj>scorpion2185[m]: https://paste.debian.net/1206904/ -- I have been using these helper functions, then I either use append_PATH("/foo/bar") or prepend_PATH("/foo/bar"), to keep duplicates form appearin in my $PATH. Though I also personally don't distnigusih between login and interactive shells, so also just source $HOME/.bashrc if running bash in .profile (which is actually default in the debian's
13:21<somiaj>/etc/skel/.profile )
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13:22<somiaj>oh wait it just just prepend_PATH "/foo/bar" -- grr get confused with syntax sometimes
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13:35<brettgilio>Hey all, what is the proposed release date of 11? Or is it just when it is ready?
13:35<xormor>brettgilio: August the 14th
13:36<brettgilio>Oh wow
13:36<brettgilio>very soon
13:36<xormor>yes
13:36<xormor>!bullseye
13:36<dpkg>The release following Debian 10 "Buster" is codenamed "Bullseye" (Woody's horse in Toy Story 2) and will be Debian 11. Tentative release date: 2021-08-14. Good bug reports on packages and upgrades are greatly appreciated! https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBullseye . Bullseye is Debian turned up to 11! <buster->bullseye> <install bullseye>
13:36<xormor>!buster->bullseye
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13:39<xormor>brettgilio: /msg dpkg buster->bullseye
13:39<brettgilio>Will backported packages with a newer release in bullseye get upgraded with dist-upgrade?
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13:39<xormor>brettgilio: /msg dpkg install bullseye
13:39<brettgilio>(once released)
13:39<brettgilio>Thanks xormor
13:39<xormor>ask an expert. I am a hobbyist.
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13:46<vv221>brettgilio, buster-backports → bullseye upgrades should be painless.
13:47<vv221>This is a hard rule of the *-backports repos ;)
13:47<brettgilio>I appreciate your input vv221
13:48<xormor>!buster->bullseye
13:48<xormor>hmm...
13:49<somiaj>Note they aren't as well tested as the buster -> bullseye
13:50<xormor>"20:37 <dpkg> In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "buster" to "bullseye", change "bullseye/updates" to "bullseye-security" on the security line; remove lines like buster-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party repos as they are known to cause issues. apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade. We're close to release so bullseye isn't a <moving target>. Please report upgrade bugs and serious
13:50<xormor>problems with packages."
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13:50<somiaj>brettgilio: note the ~bpo in the version string of backport packages, ~ means less than so 1.0.1-1~bpo < 1.0.1-1, thus you'll see that buster-backport packages are always < bullseye packages.
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13:50<brettgilio>I see, that makes sense.
13:50<Sqrt{not}>xormor, you can do it in channel like this: dpkg, buster->bullseye
13:50<somiaj>thus buster backport packages will be upgraded to the bullseye version, which is sometimes basically the same version. This should work in most cases.
13:51<somiaj>I'm just pointing out that they do get less testing, so bugs in the install scripts may arise, but this is very very rare.
13:51<xormor>dpkg, buster->bullseye
13:51<dpkg>In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "buster" to "bullseye", change "bullseye/updates" to "bullseye-security" on the security line; remove lines like buster-backports, debian-multimedia <dmo>, and other 3rd party repos as they are known to cause issues. apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade. We're close to release so bullseye isn't a <moving target>. Please report upgrade bugs and serious problems with packages.
13:51<xormor>works. thanks.
13:51<brettgilio>I appreciate all of your help, everybody.
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13:52<brettgilio>I am testing out the RC installer now
13:52<somiaj>brettgilio: so you are installing, not upgrading?
13:52<brettgilio>somiaj I have a stable desktop I will be upgrading, but I am testing the new installer in a VM now
13:53<somiaj>ahh cool, I'm sure any bugs you find would love to be reported
13:53<somiaj>though when I tested the rc1 installer, it worked very well for me, I didn't run across any bugs in my limited use case.
13:53<brettgilio>I have two primary machines, one that keeps Debian Stable and another that keeps Guix System. I just want to get a lay of what will be coming up in 11 :)
13:54<brettgilio>Very thrilled about this upcoming release
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13:55<xormor>I had a graphics related crash because I have NVidia, and my NVidia is no longer supported by the drivers fully. But it works normally usually, like right now or if I play a usual video on YouTube. I also suspected a sound related crash, but I guess it was the display, the graphics. NVidia is known to cause issues with GNU/Linux.
13:56<xormor>My NVidia hardware is old, from 2013.
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13:57<brettgilio>We live in a world where 2013 is old.
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13:57<xormor>that would be 8 years. I had even worse problems with a laptop that did not have proper drivers for Windows 10 *NOR* Debian. All in all NVidia seems to work better than AMD/ATI with my GNU/Linux systems, including Debian, Ubuntu etc.
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14:02<towo`>nvidia works better? haha
14:03<towo`>amdgpu is in kernel, no fiddling needed with 3rd party stuff
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14:07<xormor>towo`: I am writing here about old ATI Radeon, I think 9250 or 9520 or such, I do not remember. Quake 2 had messed up colors with the desktop, and the laptop would not even show YouTube videos: neither in Win10 nor on Debian stable. Probably if I had a new amdgpu the situation would be entirely different.
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14:09<xormor>old software should be used with old hardware. new operating systems might not support the GPU fully, because the drivers have been dropped.
14:09<diogenes_oftc>yep sad truth but indeed nvidia works better than AMD on Linux but best of all works Intel.
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14:18<vv221>« nvidia works better than AMD on Linux », are you from some parallel universe? ;P
14:19<towo`>and inmtel is the best on linux??
14:19<towo`>*intel
14:19<towo`>there is no problem with amd graphics and recent kernel and mesa
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14:20<vv221>("recent" meaning here "from the last 5~6 years")
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14:21<vv221>Intel has great drivers (for the graphics stack), but they are still lacking on the hardware side. Still, their integrated graphics chipset work really well and are more powerful than what I exepected before tryin a modern one.
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14:27<danielktdoranie>Hi all, I have installed Debian 10 non-free on this "17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo... having known "black screen" issue... there's a fix documented here: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple/MacBookPro/7-1 however to implement this fix, I need a command prompt. How can I get a bash shell prompt from Grub2?
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14:33<somiaj>danielktdoranie: which fix are you talking about, there is a lot there
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14:34<somiaj>does ctrl-alt-f2 get you to a console (if the black screen is only in x11)?
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14:38<danielktdoranie>@somiaj no ctrl-alt-f2 doesn't work as it never finishes booting
14:38<somiaj>so the blackscreen is not just due to X11?
14:38<danielktdoranie>No not just X11
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14:39<somiaj>from grub, hit 'e' and try adding 'systemd.unit=multi-user.target', that should boot you into a console and not run X11.
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14:40<danielktdoranie>add that were?
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14:40<danielktdoranie>at the bottom of the settings
14:40<danielktdoranie>?
14:40<somiaj>to the end of the boot parameters for the kernel. When you hit 'e' just add a space and add it as the last option
14:40<danielktdoranie>k will try now
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14:44<danielktdoranie>https://files.catbox.moe/qkcy6m.jpeg where at here?
14:45<danielktdoranie>append to the last line after "amd64"?
14:45<somiaj>that linux line, add it after quiet
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14:46<danielktdoranie>do I need to save it some how?
14:48<danielktdoranie>so I did F10 to boot and it's the same black screen again
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14:51<spawacz>I've got a dualboot, music quality is much worse on linux than on win, how can I diagnose the issue?
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14:54<spawacz>on Linux, quiet parts of the piece are almost inaudible, and louder parts are so loud that the house is shaking
14:54<spawacz>am I missing some driver or something?
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14:58<sussudio>maybe it's set to the wrong speaker configuration. don't ask me where the set it, it hardly works on my laptop at all.
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15:07<vv221>I see danielktdoranie already left, too late for suggesting appending "init=/bin/bash" to the kernel options…
15:09<somiaj>if the systemd target wasn't working, nomodeset mayhave been useful too
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16:02<Sqrt{not}>hi Guest3565
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16:13<jochum>spawacz: all audio sources produce sound like that on your laptop?
16:13<jochum>spawacz: is it even a laptop?
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16:29<artur><jochum> <spawacz> music I think is the best when is no electricity in it
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16:32<Sqrt{not}>artur, Many will dispute that, but this is not the right place for that argument.
16:38<brettgilio>Moved my debian install from 10 -> 11. Upgrade was trivial and flawless it seems
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18:00<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic or #moocows; or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/
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19:46<GoodCrossing>Hi all! Not sure if this is the correct channel, new to IRC, but I have an issue on my Raspbian install. When I check running procesess, or htop, there's always one process using 100% CPU being run by a user I created but I'm not using at the moment. There is no command indicated and if I try to kill it with the PID, killall says it doesn't exist. Restarting seems to fix it, but I'd like to find
19:46<GoodCrossing>out what this process is. Any ideas?
19:51<Sqrt{not}>There are better channels for raspbian, I'll show you in a second... but out of curiosity what does the output look like for this process? Can you show us in a pastebin?
19:51<Sqrt{not}>%raspbian
19:51<dselect>Raspberry Pi OS (previously called Raspbian) is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian (or #raspberrypi) on irc.libera.chat for support. https://www.raspbian.org/
19:52<Sqrt{not}>!pastebin
19:52<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>.
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19:57<GoodCrossing>Thanks for letting me know Sqrt, I'll ask there. I'll try to send you the process output, just a sec
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19:58<Sqrt{not}>The output of htop or top would be interesting
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19:59<GoodCrossing>Right, I'll send you the htop output. The process seems to not output anything as far as I can see. I'm using strace to get the process' output.
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20:02<GoodCrossing>Sorry for the delay, here's what htop says:https://imgur.com/a/W5bPlf2
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20:09<Sqrt{not}>GoodCrossing, thanks, it's strange, I have no guess. Try the other channels, and hang here too if you like -- maybe somebody else here might have some insight.
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20:10<GoodCrossing>Yeah, it's pretty weird. Thanks for taking a crack at it, though!
20:10<spawacz>jochum: it's a PC, sorry for late reply
20:10<spawacz>i jsut returned and im tinkering with alsamixer and pavucontrol
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20:15<spawacz>It says i have 3 devices, built-in, GF106 high definition audio controller and GF119 HDMI audio controller but last 2 are OFF and all options say "unplugged"
20:15<spawacz>I'll try to change the plug slot of my speakers maybe
20:17<spawacz>well it's definitely not hdmi, it's the circular plug thingy
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20:26<jochum>headphones jack?
20:28<spawacz>i think yes
20:28<spawacz>i've got this big box that uses the same jack and 2 speakers are plugged to it
20:28<spawacz>only the box is plugged into PC with headphone jack
20:29<jochum>I see
20:29<jochum>So your PC doesn't recognize its connected now?
20:29<jochum>spawacz: for me it helps to switch the profile of the device
20:29<spawacz>it does, it plays but the sound quality is very poor
20:30<spawacz>i tried
20:30<jochum>ahh ok
20:30<spawacz>the thing is that
20:30<spawacz>the parts of music that are quiet are literally inaudible
20:30<jochum>Win good, Linux Poor
20:30<spawacz>and the ones bit louder are SO LOUD
20:30<spawacz>that i have to hold my hand on the volume control 24/7 to ehar something
20:30<spawacz>yeah... in that matter :(
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20:31<jochum>spawacz: its the same with different sound sources?
20:31<jochum>Like Chrome/VLC/Firefox
20:31<spawacz>hmm i tried only firefox
20:32<jochum>spawacz: please try "aplay some.mp3"
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20:32<jochum>download the mp3 somewhere
20:32<jochum>maybe you have one
20:32<jochum>spawacz: not sure you know: aplay is a command in terminal
20:33<spawacz>i can mount my win drive
20:33<jochum>spawacz: i can give a link
20:33<jochum>google some mp3 for ya
20:33<spawacz>omg
20:33<spawacz>i ran aplay and it started shooting liek from ak47
20:33<ens>damn, i missed the deadline to register for a tshirt for debconf.
20:33<ens>i need more clothes.
20:34<jochum>spawacz: the mp3/sound is no ak47 :)
20:34<jochum>hmmm
20:34<jochum>i messed something up
20:34<jochum>aplay not mp3 player
20:34<jochum>spawacz: open that mp3 with vlc
20:34<spawacz>i have "cmus" console player
20:34<jochum>:/
20:35<jochum>I don't know cmus
20:35<spawacz>hmm sounds ok
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20:35<jochum>ha!
20:36<jochum>spawacz: what output is configured?
20:36<jochum>pulseaudio or alsa?
20:36<spawacz>i dont know but i recall i was changing it logn time ago
20:36<spawacz>cause at first it was also poorer
20:36<jochum>spawacz: wanna test?
20:36<spawacz>sec, Im going to check how to test it
20:36<spawacz>of course :)
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20:36<jochum>spawacz: pulseaudio -k
20:36<jochum>:)
20:36<jochum>-k = kill
20:36<spawacz>oof
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20:37<jochum>please grep for pulse
20:37<spawacz>it degraded
20:37<spawacz>after i typed that :D
20:37<jochum>quality went down?
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20:38<spawacz>hmm or the music just stopped for a second
20:38<spawacz>need more test samples
20:38<spawacz>hmm
20:38<spawacz>the player is restarting the pulseaudio
20:38<spawacz>it spawns with new pid
20:39<jochum>ahh
20:39<jochum>no
20:39<spawacz>and firefox sound dies when i kill pulseaudio
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20:39<spawacz>but the timer bar goes on
20:39<jochum>aehm ... systemctl --user stop pulseaudio
20:40<jochum>spawacz: please lookup the exact command
20:40<jochum>spawacz: but I think we already know
20:40<jochum>Firefox is the soundbreaker
20:41<spawacz>i dont think so, it seems to affect also the other player
20:41<spawacz>now i stopped the pulseaudio and it does not want to play
20:41<jochum>spawacz: may I ask is that a lowend machine?
20:41<spawacz>both of them
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20:42<spawacz>mobo is
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20:42<spawacz>Gigabyte 970A-DS3P
20:42<jochum>I thought old :)
20:42<jochum>i meant
20:42<spawacz>i still love it
20:42<spawacz>:D
20:42<spawacz>may that be the cause?
20:43<jochum>well if cpu is at 100%
20:43<spawacz>okay if pulseaudio is stopped, can i use alternative?
20:43<jochum>one core
20:43<spawacz>no it's not at 100%
20:43<spawacz>4 cores
20:43<jochum>ok, thats not the reason.
20:44<jochum>theres a very good alternative which I like a lot, its pipewire
20:44<jochum>pipewire has a compatbility layer for PulseAudio
20:44<jochum>spawacz: but thats not what we are searching for
20:45<jochum>We found out that console player works great, but Firefox not
20:45<spawacz>no, console player also has the problem
20:45<himesama>i purged pulseaudio and it fixed whatever problems i had, but i suspect that it is required by firefox or something these days
20:45<jochum>spawacz: you can start pulseaudio if you like with systemctl --user start pulseaudio
20:45<spawacz>after playing more mp3
20:45<spawacz>i started it already
20:45<jochum>himesama: pipewire has a pulseaudio compatiblity layer.
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20:46<jochum>spawacz: I see you aren't new to Debian
20:46<spawacz>i use it since 2 years
20:46<spawacz>Linux in general
20:46<spawacz>but i learned a ton
20:46<jochum>Same
20:46<spawacz>anyways, what is the alternative to pulseaudio?
20:46<jochum>pipewire
20:47<jochum>I bring up a debian wiki
20:47<spawacz>can i temporarly stop it and ask the player to use some other way to play sound?
20:47<nik0n>are pop! os users welcome here? :D
20:47<jochum>´https://wiki.debian.org/PipeWire
20:47<jochum>nik0n: I believe not, no
20:47<jochum>nik0n: sorry
20:47<nik0n>what ever shall i do
20:48<jochum>join #linux on libera.chat
20:48<sney>#ubuntu (also on libera) is sometimes willing to help with random derivatives too
20:49<jochum>spawacz: yes alsa, you need to configure it
20:49<nik0n>im already there
20:49<jochum>spawacz: no need to stop pulseaudio
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20:49<sney>dselect: they don't know
20:49<dselect>We're sorry your distro's channel isn't being helpful, but that doesn't make it appropriate to use #debian for non-Debian questions. Please go back to your channel and wait patiently for better help, or install Debian and party with us.
20:49<jochum>I hoped for auto-detect :)
20:49<nik0n>i thought ubuntu was from debian
20:49<nik0n>and pop! a fork of ubuntu
20:49<nik0n>am i wrong?
20:49<jochum>nik0n: has nothing to do with that, we don't know the changes in pop! os
20:50<jochum>nik0n: also not about ubuntu
20:50<spawacz>I'm going to read the docs
20:50<nik0n>im not asking questions or looking for support dselect...im just hanging out
20:50<sney>nik0n: they are, but whenever someone forks debian (or ubuntu), they take responsibility for supporting their users. debian users can't responsibly help, because we don't know what's different
20:50<sney>well if you just want to chat, go to #debian-offtopic
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20:50<sney>#debian is specifically for support
20:50<nik0n>...
20:50<jochum>nik0n: i think noone has a problem if you just want to hang around
20:51<nik0n>thanks sney...i learned something from you and only you
20:51<nik0n>later guys/gals...
20:51<nik0n>one love
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20:52<jochum>I learned that this was not love.
20:52<jochum>from nik0n
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20:59<jochum>spawacz: I go sleep soon, any progress?
21:00<spawacz>Im also goin to sleep now, it seems much better when i switched to alsa... i think
21:01<spawacz>i wish i could play 2 mp3 side by side, one with pulse one with alsa
21:02<spawacz>i'll try it tomorrow, sweet dreams :)
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21:06<jochum>gn8
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21:07<somiaj>alsa has dmix which is software mixing, it should be enabled by default, but sometimes a custom alsa configuration file is needed.
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