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| 00:35 | <Hash> | Hello what's the best way to deploy debian server using some automated way |
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| 00:36 | <Hash> | install OS, packages, and configure some php, nginx, few other things, automatically |
| 00:36 | <Hash> | Does anyone have any working ansible playbook or maybe some other config I can look at? |
| 00:36 | <tuxd3v> | hello guys |
| 00:36 | <Hash> | Hi |
| 00:36 | <tuxd3v> | I want to load a zram module on boot |
| 00:37 | <tuxd3v> | I am trying to load it on '/etc/modules' |
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| 00:37 | <Hash> | you don't need to load it like that |
| 00:37 | <tuxd3v> | 'zram num_devices=4' |
| 00:37 | <Hash> | It's part of the kernel and comes with it |
| 00:37 | <Hash> | this would go into your bash script that starts a device and configures it |
| 00:37 | <jm_> | Hash: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apb.en.html |
| 00:38 | <Hash> | https://gist.github.com/hashborgir/ec70dd1317e20d89c5f56a125af40fe9 take a look here at my custom zram script |
| 00:38 | <Hash> | I put this into /etc/init.d/ and use /etc/init.d/zram start|stop |
| 00:38 | <Hash> | you can configure whatever number of devices etc. etc. you want |
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| 00:39 | <Hash> | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt part of kernel and seperate module does not need installing. modprobe zram should do it. |
| 00:39 | <Hash> | (unless something in debian changed) |
| 00:40 | <tuxd3v> | my problem is that /etc/modules is not loading zram num_devices=4 |
| 00:40 | <tuxd3v> | I have a udev rule to do what you have in that script :) |
| 00:40 | <tuxd3v> | thanks for sharing :) |
| 00:40 | <jm_> | debian comes with zram-tools, look at that |
| 00:40 | <Hash> | Oh there are packages for it now |
| 00:40 | <Hash> | Interesting |
| 00:40 | <jm_> | make sure to rebuild initrams after editing /etc/modules |
| 00:41 | <tuxd3v> | that doesn´t allow to set lz4 as the compressor :) |
| 00:41 | <Hash> | https://wiki.debian.org/ZRam have you seem this? |
| 00:41 | <tuxd3v> | ho, I can test updating my initramfs , thanks for the clue :) |
| 00:43 | <Hash> | jm_: thanks |
| 00:44 | <Hash> | jm_: preseeding over ansible type config management? |
| 00:44 | <Hash> | jm_: any reason why (other than officially supported) |
| 00:45 | <Hash> | https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/example-preseed.txt hmm that's easy enough. I wonder if pre seeding is able to run some bash scripts at the end, clone some respos, and grab data |
| 00:45 | <tuxd3v> | This is my /etc/udev/rules.d/10-zram.rules: |
| 00:46 | <tuxd3v> | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/52b37e1c/ |
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| 00:47 | <tuxd3v> | you just need to load the modules and udev deals with all the rest, ho and you can choose what algo to use , size and such :) |
| 00:48 | <tuxd3v> | in my case its for a 4 core cpu |
| 00:48 | <tuxd3v> | 1 line per cpu core :) |
| 00:50 | <tuxd3v> | Hash, your init deamon is also nice :) |
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| 01:00 | <tuxd3v> | nope.. updating initramfs doesn´ t solve the problem of /etc/modules not loading zram module :/ |
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| 01:01 | <tuxd3v> | but it does load all the other modules there, just not 'zram num_devices=4' |
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| 01:05 | <tuxd3v> | /etc/init.d/kmod start, doesn´ t solve the problem.. |
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| 01:28 | <jm_> | Hash: sorry, no idea about ansible, I also remembered there's fai https://fai-project.org/ |
| 01:31 | <jm_> | Hash: yes, preseed can do that, see «d-i preseed late_command» in the example preseed |
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| 03:51 | <vv221> | Etua, if you were still idling I could have given you this paste: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/6ae9eabd |
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| 03:51 | <vv221> | (but you’re not, so this will have to wait) |
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| 04:06 | <Emil> | Hey |
| 04:06 | <Emil> | What's the difference between https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/{cd-including-firmware,firmware,images-including-firmware} ? |
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| 04:08 | <thctlo> | Good morning everybody.. i've setup a new build machine with sbuild. my previous builder was pbuilder where i used the options --debbuildopts '-sa' for my first build and all next --debbuildopts '-B' how can i use this in sbuilder, is it correct i need to use sbuilder -A on the first arch i build an all next with --no-arch-all ? bit confused here. |
| 04:09 | <thctlo> | or is it better to use the --debbuildopts ? |
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| 04:18 | <Emil> | I was answered on Libera that they are the same thing (highly likely), and I checked the sha256 of iso-cd from both and they match |
| 04:18 | <Emil> | So I suspect it's just historical links |
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| 04:23 | <jm_> | also all timestamps and sizes seem to match, so probably one is a symlink on the host fs, while web server lister shows it as two dirs |
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| 04:31 | <mendel_munkis> | how can I allow remote users shutdown permissions? |
| 04:32 | <mendel_munkis> | (assuming systemd) |
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| 04:33 | <Emil> | mendel_munkis: you can add shutdown to the allowed commands in sudo |
| 04:34 | <Emil> | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/85663/poweroff-or-reboot-as-normal-user |
| 04:34 | <Emil> | https://how-to.fandom.com/wiki/How_to_allow_non-super_users_to_shutdown_computer_in_Linux |
| 04:35 | <mendel_munkis> | I already can with sudo, I would like to able to auth to systemctl to shutdown. |
| 04:36 | <jm_> | what does it say if you try it now? |
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| 04:39 | <mendel_munkis> | failed to set wall message, ignoring: Access denied\n failed to reboot system via logind: Access denied\n failed to start reboot.target: Access denied\n |
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| 04:40 | <vv221> | mendel_munkis, here I work around this through a dedicated group ("power") who can run password-less sudo calls to `poweroff`. |
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| 04:41 | <vv221> | Because the systemctl authentication is a bit of a pain: it asks for a password once, to display the wall message, then a second time to actually shutdown the system. |
| 04:41 | <ansgar> | mendel_munkis: You can configure PolicyKit to allow the org.freedesktop.login1.reboot-multiple-sessions and/or org.freedesktop.login1.power-off-multiple-sessions actions. |
| 04:42 | <mendel_munkis> | vv221: that's true ansgar: thanks |
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| 05:19 | <stackdimes> | hey anyone around |
| 05:20 | <bittin_> | yeah |
| 05:20 | <bittin_> | hi |
| 05:21 | <stackdimes> | hey how are you doing? think you could help me out with a hopefully simple question? |
| 05:21 | <bittin_> | maybe |
| 05:21 | <bittin_> | ask and we will see |
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| 05:25 | <stackdimes> | i'm running debian bullseye with gnome and using pop-shell tiling, there seems to be conflicting keybindings keeping me from using pop-shell like i usually do. I have all the right bindings in the normal settings>keybinds and disabled everything i don't use. Still, when i press for example "super+2" which i have set to go to Workspace 2, it launches my terminal emulater. There are |
| 05:25 | <stackdimes> | also a few others. Is there a "system wide keybind config" that is overiding my choices? |
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| 05:32 | <ham5urg> | Is there any fdisk vor similar if I get dropped to initramfs-shell? |
| 05:32 | <ham5urg> | or similar* |
| 05:34 | <jm_> | ham5urg: lsinitramfs suggests lots of tools are included |
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| 05:37 | <RyPi> | what is this? |
| 05:37 | <RyPi> | print("Hello World!") |
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| 05:38 | <RyPi> | apropos what is this form |
| 05:39 | <RyPi> | that should be my name 'apropos' like the all mighty wizard behind the curtin! |
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| 05:40 | <Apropos> | i think i have the best username |
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| 05:42 | <stackdimes> | i just discovered what it's doing is launching applications in the order my favorites are in the gnome side dock. (Super + 1-4) is launching applications in that order. How in the hell do i disable that? I have it mapped in the settings Super + 1-4 to go to Workspaces 1-4. |
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| 05:56 | <coffee_> | Hello! Is there a package I can install to run a Java applet? |
| 05:57 | <coffee_> | (In browser) |
| 05:57 | <coffee_> | icedtea seems to be obsolete |
| 06:01 | <jm_> | coffee_: I don't think so, that stopped working when browsers killed NPAPI plugins |
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| 06:43 | <adhawkins> | Hi all. Getting an error trying to run apt update on an old 'stretch' box. Getting the following: https://paste.debian.net/1208200/ |
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| 07:11 | <jm_> | adhawkins: maybe stretch moved to archive site now, so try fetching from there |
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| 08:10 | <kopyking> | jhutchins: Yes, I can list the nftables rules with nft list ruleset. I don't understand your comment about installing two different packages that manage the same thing. I don't see how miniupnpd would differ in operation from say fail2ban. |
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| 08:54 | <adhawkins> | Jm_ The index files still seem to be there, but it's just not verifying signatures. |
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| 08:58 | <kopyking> | Hey all, looking for advise on how on the correct package to file a bug against. I'm running miniupnpd (yes I know - security) and the miniupnpd run script (/usr/libexec/miniupnpd-start-stop-helper.sh) makes a call to `update-alternatives --query iptables`. I have nftables on my machine and that call returns nothing. Is this a bug with nftables not populating /etc/alternatives or with miniupnpd for |
| 08:58 | <kopyking> | looking for it in the first place? thank you. |
| 08:58 | <kopyking> | Hey all, looking for advise on how on the correct package to file a bug against. I'm running miniupnpd (yes I know - security) and the miniupnpd run script (/usr/libexec/miniupnpd-start-stop-helper.sh) makes a call to `update-alternatives --query iptables`. I have nftables on my machine and that call returns nothing. Is this a bug with nftables not populating /etc/alternatives or with miniupnpd for |
| 08:58 | <kopyking> | looking for it in the first place? thank you. |
| 08:58 | <kopyking> | Hey all, looking for advise on how on the correct package to file a bug against. I'm running miniupnpd (yes I know - security) and the miniupnpd run script (/usr/libexec/miniupnpd-start-stop-helper.sh) makes a call to `update-alternatives --query iptables`. I have nftables on my machine and that call returns nothing. Is this a bug with nftables not populating /etc/alternatives or with miniupnpd for |
| 08:59 | <kopyking> | looking for it in the first place? thank you. |
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| 09:03 | <somiaj> | kopyking: that alternative is part of the iptables package, not part of the nftables package, so you would have to have the iptables package installed for that |
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| 09:04 | <somiaj> | kopyking: also don't repeate your question, be more careful in the future |
| 09:04 | <kopyking> | My apologies for that. I was offscreen and right clicking appeared to have no function. |
| 09:04 | <tepozoa> | the end result should be that alternatives/iptables -> /usr/sbin/iptables-nft |
| 09:04 | <somiaj> | kopyking: anyways, are you using miniupnpd-iptables or miniupnpd-nftables? |
| 09:05 | <kopyking> | somiaj miniupnpd-nftables |
| 09:05 | <kopyking> | somiaj: and I don't have iptables installed |
| 09:06 | <somiaj> | kopyking: yea that doesn't depend on iptables, so I'm unsure why it is making that query or not, installing iptables should at least make that update-alternatives --query iptables line return something, but I'm unsure if there is a bug there or it is a user issue (since I don't know the software) |
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| 09:07 | <somiaj> | I don't see any known bug on that issue, though besides that call returns nothing (Which is just fine if iptables is not installed), does it actually do what it is supose to (maybe it is just checking if the iptables-nft tables wrapper is installed and setup and it is okay it returns nothing)? |
| 09:08 | <kopyking> | somiaj/tepozoa: I guess it comes down to this: Should nftables be populating something for iptables in /etc/alternatives, or should the miniupnpd startup script be updated to interrogate something else. |
| 09:08 | <somiaj> | as said, iptables is the package that contains both the binary and the alternative, so nptables should not be setting this up |
| 09:08 | <kopyking> | somiaj: If the command returns nothing, the script fails stating that it is unable to locate the backend. |
| 09:09 | <somiaj> | miniupnpd-iptables correctly depends on iptables, so if iptables is being used, it will be there, but miniupnpd-nftables most likely shouldn't care if iptables is installed since it shouldn't be using it (Based on the name) anyways |
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| 09:09 | <kopyking> | somiaj: What I'm inferring from this is that the bug is with the miniupnpd startup script then. It should use a different mechanism to determine the backend or not do so at all. |
| 09:09 | <somiaj> | kopyking: could you have a misconfiguration and that is why it is looking for iptables? Or should you have the -iptables version installed? |
| 09:10 | <kopyking> | somiaj: I don't think so. the system is not altered too much. |
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| 09:11 | <somiaj> | personally to me it sounds like a configuration issue, but you may want to dive deeper, to me the -nftables backend shouldn't be looking for iptables at all, that should only be the -iptables backend, whcih correctly depends on the iptables package, so it would work in that case |
| 09:12 | <somiaj> | the fact that you have -nftables installed but are looking for the iptables backend could be a bug or a misconfiguration, though as said, I don't see any bug reports, which makes me think the former, but this is just a wild guess, I don't actually use the software |
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| 09:14 | <kopyking> | This is the problematic line in the startup script: |
| 09:14 | <kopyking> | system_backend=$(update-alternatives --query iptables | grep -F Value | grep -qF nft && echo nftables || echo iptables) |
| 09:14 | <somiaj> | kopyking: which package is the startup script a part of? |
| 09:14 | <tepozoa> | I think it's a Debian owned bug in this script in the sense that it's not nftables aware |
| 09:14 | <tepozoa> | https://sources.debian.org/src/miniupnpd/2.2.1-1/debian/miniupnpd-startstop-helper.sh/ |
| 09:14 | <tepozoa> | it would appear the systemd service calls this script, which is not nftables-aware |
| 09:15 | <kopyking> | miniupnpd: /usr/libexec/miniupnpd-startstop-helper.sh |
| 09:15 | <tepozoa> | that's what I just said |
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| 09:17 | <somiaj> | yea, not exactly sure what is going on there, it might just have been missed since most probably have iptables installed (I think it comes by default) |
| 09:17 | <kopyking> | topozoa/somiaj: OK, just to be clear here, I will file a bug against miniupnpd. |
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| 09:18 | <somiaj> | yea, that helper script seems to not work if iptables is not installed |
| 09:18 | <kopyking> | topozoa/somiaj: Thank you for both for your time. |
| 09:18 | <somiaj> | I would first install iptables and see if it works, and if it does, then it is just a matter of they need to move the iptables dependency from the -iptables package to the main package. |
| 09:19 | <Tenkawa> | it hasn't been updated since (the upstream project) since 2017.. does that ever |
| 09:19 | <Tenkawa> | er how much impact is that going to make? |
| 09:19 | <Tenkawa> | getting the change in? |
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| 09:19 | <tepozoa> | my builds usually have iptables-persistent added (validating what somiaj says about it being there for many people) |
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| 09:20 | <tepozoa> | Tenkawa: in this case, it would appear it's an add-on script by the Debian developers in the package, not a part of upstream's code |
| 09:20 | <Tenkawa> | will the Debian maintainer continue to keep it going? |
| 09:20 | <Tenkawa> | ok.. |
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| 09:21 | <Tenkawa> | I looked at the deb and the homepage for the deb was the same |
| 09:21 | <somiaj> | Tenkawa: Maybe upstream just moved locations, it appears to have newer versions, http://miniupnp.free.fr/files/changelog.php?file=miniupnpd-2.2.0-RC1.tar.gz |
| 09:21 | <somiaj> | those have 2020 dates for various bug fixes. |
| 09:21 | <Tenkawa> | yeah they do have this one now |
| 09:21 | <Tenkawa> | 13/05/2021 |
| 09:22 | <Tenkawa> | http://miniupnp.free.fr/files/download.php?file=miniupnpd-2.2.2.tar.gz |
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| 09:22 | <Tenkawa> | they didn't bother to update their date on the page correctly and I didn't dig deep enough |
| 09:22 | <somiaj> | That version is newer than the freeze, 2.2.1 is what is in debian, but it does seem to at least be matained upstream |
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| 09:23 | <tepozoa> | you can usually click the "Developer" link from packages.debian to make it easier on yourself |
| 09:24 | <somiaj> | though I've even seen that link out dated, but here it appaers that the main website's date has an older date and hasn't been updated with the newer changes |
| 09:24 | <tepozoa> | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/miniupnpd the tracker knows |
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| 09:25 | <somiaj> | yea, miniupnp.free.fr just has a bad date at the very start, you go to the download page and get more proper dates (also the adds on that page suck) |
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| 09:26 | <Tenkawa> | I "personally" got thrown off by this on their site. If you go to main page |
| 09:26 | <Tenkawa> | Last modified on May 26th 2017. |
| 09:26 | <Tenkawa> | usually when people update dloads they update that too |
| 09:26 | <tepozoa> | kopyking: I've never needed to run a UPNP daemon on Debian, do you use this on a gateway/router of some sort in your home network? |
| 09:27 | <tepozoa> | I though upnp was considered kinda insecure (reading blog articles in passing) |
| 09:27 | <kopyking> | tepozoa: Yes, Running it on a home network. I plan to restrict the devices that can use it by MAC. Yes it is terrible for security - I understand that. |
| 09:27 | <grawity> | half of its insecurity (of UPnP IGD/IGD2 specifically) was that some routers accidentally left it exposed *to the WAN* |
| 09:28 | <grawity> | which allowed literally anyone to set up port-forwards into your network |
| 09:28 | * | tepozoa nods - just asking to learn :) |
| 09:28 | <tepozoa> | if you put "upnp security" into your favorite searx instance, the top dozen results are not good looking |
| 09:29 | <tepozoa> | https://www.upguard.com/blog/what-is-upnp "What is UPnP? Yes, It's Still Dangerous in 2021" |
| 09:29 | <kopyking> | topozoa, Kids and gaming devices are a whole other painful usecase. |
| 09:29 | <grawity> | when it's LAN-only it's not nearly as bad; although of course there's still the issue of your LAN devices (possibly insecure IoT things) being able to set up port-forwards *to themselves* and then getting pwned, but that's a different matter |
| 09:29 | <tepozoa> | I like my dumb house |
| 09:29 | <tepozoa> | :) |
| 09:31 | <grawity> | (and I think UPnP is just architecturally ugly, NAT-PMP is nicer to use for the purpose, but sadly fewer apps and routers implement it) |
| 09:31 | <kopyking> | tepozoa: agreed. No smart thermostats/locks/etc here. On further reading this may all be for not, as the Nintendo Switch requires essentially DMZ priviledges on all UDP ports > 1024 to work properly. Groan. |
| 09:31 | <grawity> | weird, I kinda thought most game devices use holepunching or central servers nowadays |
| 09:32 | <tepozoa> | I feel like quoting that Dr Suess about "no sir I do not like that" |
| 09:32 | <tepozoa> | I forget which one that was |
| 09:32 | <kopyking> | grawity: Apparently Nintendo has been special for some time now. |
| 09:32 | <somiaj> | I do not like green eggs and ham |
| 09:32 | <kopyking> | Green eggs and ham, but your quote is a little off. |
| 09:32 | <tepozoa> | I'm a little off :) |
| 09:33 | <tepozoa> | so you're saying the Nintendo _requires_ UPNP active on a network so that it can punch holes, or else it simply fails to work right? |
| 09:33 | <tepozoa> | (I don't own one, I have a Playstation) |
| 09:35 | <kopyking> | tepozoa: No - The Switch is too dumb to use uPNP. It needs all UDP ports > 1024 forwarded to it. |
| 09:36 | <kopyking> | For some reason I got confused and thought I could make it work with upnp, chased all this down, and then found out otherwise. I'm off to a great start. |
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| 09:36 | <grawity> | that's actually silly, what happens if people have >1 switch in the house |
| 09:37 | <kopyking> | gawity: Then you'd best have two proper IP addresses to bind to. |
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| 09:48 | <tepozoa> | hah! |
| 09:49 | <tepozoa> | I live on a pure IPv6 ISP network with no IPv4 and no allowed ingress on the IPv6 |
| 09:49 | <tepozoa> | that device would be simply dead here |
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| 10:23 | <Generic82909> | http://paste.debian.net/1208231/ |
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| 10:26 | <somiaj> | Generic82909: you might have some thirdparty/obslete packages installed, start with 'apt list ~o' |
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| 10:26 | <somiaj> | Generic82909: you can also try to manually upgade that package and see what it says, 'apt install libboost-dev' |
| 10:27 | <somiaj> | Probably to not overrwrite profiles form older versions |
| 10:27 | <Generic82909> | http://paste.debian.net/1208233/ |
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| 10:28 | <somiaj> | Generic82909: those are a list of all packages that are no longer in bullseye, and something in that list is probably keeping that libary at the previous version because of depends. |
| 10:29 | <Generic82909> | scree |
| 10:29 | <somiaj> | you can remove all of those packages with 'apt remove ~o', but you may not want to do that, but you should consider you have a lot of obslete packages |
| 10:29 | <Generic82909> | How does that even happen? |
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| 10:29 | <Generic82909> | This is like a fresh system |
| 10:29 | <somiaj> | ,v gimp-wfraw |
| 10:29 | <judd> | No package named 'gimp-wfraw' was found in amd64. |
| 10:30 | <somiaj> | ,v gimp-ufraw |
| 10:30 | <judd> | Package: gimp-ufraw on amd64 -- stretch: 0.22-1.1; buster: 0.22-4 |
| 10:30 | <Generic82909> | Oh, so just uninstall gimp ufraw? |
| 10:30 | <somiaj> | Generic82909: things change, packages get removed over time, some are replaced by other things, my system had lots of packages as well |
| 10:30 | <somiaj> | I personally just ran 'apt purge ~o' and removed all of them, but if you have thrid party packages and the likes you may need to reinstall them |
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| 10:31 | <Generic82909> | it looks like wifi driver too, firmware-ralink/now 20190114-2 all [installed,local] |
| 10:31 | <somiaj> | the only thing there that I would be considered about is nvidia-legacy-340xx, as this isn't compadable with the newer 5.10 kernel, and it appears you have an older nvidia card. You may need to switch to nouveau |
| 10:32 | <somiaj> | ,v firmware-ralink |
| 10:32 | <Generic82909> | I don't think I have any nvidia compoments in this device |
| 10:32 | <judd> | Package: firmware-ralink on amd64 -- stretch/non-free: 20161130-5; stretch-backports/non-free: 20190114-2~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 20190114-2 |
| 10:32 | <somiaj> | It might be the firmware has been replaced with some new package |
| 10:32 | <Generic82909> | I installed buster live 10 10 0 nonfree, yesterday, then I found out bullseye was released and tried to update ... |
| 10:33 | <somiaj> | ahh firmware-ralink was just a transitional package anyways, so it didn't do anything |
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| 10:33 | <somiaj> | since it is just a fresh install, I would just run 'apt purge ~o', get rid of all those packages |
| 10:34 | <Generic82909> | Ok, this will take a moment, old pc :P |
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| 10:41 | <bklsukren> | '/msg NickServ checkverify |
| 10:41 | <Generic82909> | Ok all looks good, gonna reboot |
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| 11:14 | <bleb> | i booted debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard+nonfree.iso and began the installer |
| 11:14 | <bleb> | i think the last think i did was select my language; now I have a blank blue screen |
| 11:15 | <bleb> | theres a cursor at the bottom where I can type, with a white background instead of blue |
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| 11:17 | <bleb> | i can get into a busybox console with ctrl+alt+f2; anything I might try to fix this? |
| 11:17 | <bleb> | or else diagnose it |
| 11:19 | <Sqrt{not}> | bleb, ctrl-alt-f4 should show logs, maybe look there |
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| 11:21 | <bleb> | it happened a second time, right after running dhcpv6 |
| 11:22 | <Sqrt{not}> | bleb, how did you fix the first time? |
| 11:22 | <bleb> | i didn't fix it, i just rebooted |
| 11:23 | <bleb> | ctrl-alt-f4 seems unresponsive |
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| 11:24 | <bleb> | i can switch between "Please press Enter to active this console." and a single _ by alternating between ctrl-alt-f3 and ctrl-alt-f6 |
| 11:24 | <bleb> | but f4 and f5 dont do anything |
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| 11:25 | <bleb> | maybe the first task should be to replace dhcpv6 with dhcp, since I want an ipv4 address anyway |
| 11:25 | <bleb> | and perhaps dhcpv6 is causing the problem, since it is the last thing before the installer hangs |
| 11:26 | <bleb> | i would happily do more to diagnose the issue but idk what to try |
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| 11:28 | <bleb> | ah dmesg works |
| 11:29 | <Sqrt{not}> | are you running the graphical installer, or the text installer? Also, maybe run `free` on your text console to make sure you have enough memory? |
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| 11:29 | <bleb> | text installer |
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| 11:30 | <bleb> | free says i have 73472 used, 16048972 free |
| 11:30 | <Sqrt{not}> | OK! clearly *not* the problem ;) |
| 11:31 | <hendursaga> | I got around to re-installing Debian, in retrospect, I feel it might've been a display manager problem. |
| 11:31 | <bleb> | the last thing in dmesg is IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eno1: link becomes ready |
| 11:32 | <bleb> | dmesg | grep -Ei 'error|warn' shows nothing |
| 11:32 | <bleb> | guess I will try the graphical installer |
| 11:33 | <Sqrt{not}> | bleb is there anything in /var/log/ ? |
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| 11:34 | <bleb> | restarting a third time... |
| 11:34 | * | Sqrt{not} is AFK for a while |
| 11:35 | <bleb> | yes there is /var/log/syslog |
| 11:37 | <Sqrt{not}> | ahh, before I leave: how did you copy the live image to your boot media? |
| 11:37 | <bleb> | I copied it into the _ISO folder of my iodd 2531 |
| 11:37 | <bleb> | which emulates a cd drive |
| 11:38 | <Sqrt{not}> | OK, I have no idea about that. good luck, I'm gone for a while. |
| 11:38 | <bleb> | no errors in /var/log/syslog, but there are a few lines that mention a warning |
| 11:38 | <bleb> | last one is WARNING **: Started DHCPv6 client; PID is 4362 |
| 11:39 | <bleb> | i'll try the graphical installer; if anyone knows a simple way to force dhcp v4 let me know |
| 11:41 | <bleb> | in the graphical installer, after it does the DHCPv6 thing, the installer stops responding |
| 11:41 | <Sqrt{not}> | (if you don't have it already, it's worth looking at the install manual: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual ) |
| 11:42 | <bleb> | I still have the debian banner and it still says "Configure the network", but there is just blank white below that |
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| 11:52 | <tepozoa> | bleb: edit the installer (ISO) GRUB commandline and try adding ipv6.disable=1? That would hard-force the installer boot kernel to only use IPv4. Could break something else, but.... well... can't hurt to test it |
| 11:52 | <tepozoa> | could at least prove a theory |
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| 12:05 | <bleb> | tepozoa: thanks |
| 12:05 | <bleb> | it seems to be proceeding as if I have no network at all |
| 12:06 | <bleb> | it failed on "detect and mount installation media" |
| 12:06 | <bleb> | then if I look at the menu options, there is no network configuration |
| 12:07 | <bleb> | i don't recall ipv6 being the default on earlier debians; maybe I just use buster for now? |
| 12:07 | <tepozoa> | _nod_ you're booting a livecd which has opinions about life, it's probably having a bad day with IPv6 hard disabled |
| 12:08 | <bleb> | this is a new thing for bullseye though? |
| 12:08 | <tepozoa> | have you tried the normal installer? |
| 12:08 | <bleb> | the non-graphical one? yes |
| 12:08 | <bleb> | same behavior |
| 12:08 | <tepozoa> | (I can't answer that about being new, my IPv6 just works) |
| 12:08 | <tepozoa> | no, the real ISO that is not "live" |
| 12:09 | <bleb> | oh |
| 12:09 | <bleb> | i can try it |
| 12:09 | <tepozoa> | sec lemme get a link |
| 12:09 | <bleb> | for now I can try booting to the live image |
| 12:10 | <tepozoa> | https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ <- notice there's a subdir for each type |
| 12:11 | <tepozoa> | since you're having this network issue, you'll probably want the full DVD version which is almost 4G, but, well... |
| 12:12 | <bleb> | I guess I want "firmware-11.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso" ? |
| 12:13 | <tepozoa> | that's the one yep |
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| 12:13 | <tepozoa> | sadly, there are still a lot of network chipsets out there without free blobs :-/ |
| 12:14 | <bleb> | i'll also try 10.10 while im at it |
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| 12:16 | <tepozoa> | at a very basic layer, the subsystems are geared to test/use/try IPv6 first these days (like the glibc DNS resolving) - bullseye is using the newer kernel (by a very long shot) so it stands to reason there have been fundamental networking changes in simple using the new kernel |
| 12:17 | <Sqrt{not}> | bleb, if <it failed on "detect and mount installation media"> maybe your device's emulation of cd drive isn't as exact as what the installer expects? Can you use a USB thumb drive instead? |
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| 12:20 | <bleb> | i could try that, the iodd has been flawless so far though |
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| 12:21 | <RedEagle> | i see bullseye upgrade has broken youtube-dl completely , giving error " /usr/bin/env: ‘python’: No such file or directory*** |
| 12:22 | <bleb> | how is youtube-dl installed |
| 12:23 | <RedEagle> | i have been using github youtube-dl..unix users way ! |
| 12:23 | <bleb> | how is it installed though |
| 12:23 | <bleb> | just a repo directory? |
| 12:25 | <RedEagle> | noo. it gives a curl command.. |
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| 12:25 | <RedEagle> | and second command is to make it execuatable.. |
| 12:25 | <RedEagle> | ******sudo curl -L https://yt-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl -o /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl |
| 12:26 | <tepozoa> | python == python2, we're using python3 now and it's command per the PEP is always python3 |
| 12:26 | <Sqrt{not}> | there are these packages you can install: python-is-python3 and python-is-python2 |
| 12:26 | <RedEagle> | and second command is *****sudo chmod a+rx /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl***** |
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| 12:27 | <hendursaga> | So, I forgot my root password to my new Debian installation. When presented with a boot menu, which is NOT GRUB, and I select Debian, what appears to be the GRUB menu disappears in less than half a second and it then boots to where it asks for my encryption password.. |
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| 12:28 | <tepozoa> | RedEagle: why not use the youtube-dl package from the Debian repos? |
| 12:28 | <hendursaga> | My question is, how do I get GRUB to not boot instantly or otherwise, how can I reset my root password? |
| 12:28 | <RedEagle> | ok .. yeah i get it .. |
| 12:28 | <bleb> | tepozoa: you want updates as fast as possible for youtube-dl |
| 12:28 | <hendursaga> | RedEagle: pip install youtube-dl works great for me |
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| 12:28 | <bleb> | RedEagle: i would recommend using pip, i'm pretty sure the bundled version takes longer to start up |
| 12:28 | <tepozoa> | I sure don't, I don't use it! :-) (j/k) I get you |
| 12:29 | <hendursaga> | (Oh and this is a Windows dual-boot, too) |
| 12:29 | <bleb> | if you install via pip it probably wont have the same problems anyway |
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| 12:30 | <tepozoa> | hendursaga: I've been in your shoes before, it tends to mean the GRUB timeout is set to 0. Sit there with your up and down arrow keys and as fast as you can smash them to try to interrupt GRUB to get the menu |
| 12:31 | <tepozoa> | it may take a lot of tries to race-condition yourself into the menu, once in there you can add "single" to the boot line |
| 12:31 | <RedEagle> | ok i try it |
| 12:31 | <hendursaga> | tepozoa: yeah I just read an article on extending the timeout value.. let's see if that works.. |
| 12:31 | <tepozoa> | it does, Ubuntu sets things to 0 and it's one of the first adjustments I make |
| 12:32 | <hendursaga> | Wouldn't that mean I'd still have to figure out how to mount my encrypted drive? |
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| 12:33 | <tepozoa> | did you use full disk encryption? |
| 12:33 | <hendursaga> | Yes I did |
| 12:33 | <hendursaga> | I didn't forget THAT password :P |
| 12:33 | <tepozoa> | yeah, you have some work ahead of you |
| 12:34 | <tepozoa> | but, it /should/ prompt you for the password during single boot IIRC - the boot's initrd will read out the /etc/fstab which has the hooks to the LUKS data |
| 12:34 | <hendursaga> | where's single boot? down from the default? |
| 12:35 | <tepozoa> | you edit the commandline and add the word "single" onto the end of the other things you see like "root.lv" and whatnot |
| 12:35 | <tepozoa> | it's a synonym to telling systemd to boot in single-user.target mode |
| 12:35 | <Tenkawa> | doesn't holding the space or escape key (can't remember which) stop grub autoboot? |
| 12:35 | <hendursaga> | Tenkawa: or was it left shift?? |
| 12:36 | <Tenkawa> | hendursaga: that does sound familiar.. let me look it up |
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| 12:37 | <hendursaga> | and... that's weird, somehow I'm in Debian recovery mode. |
| 12:37 | <Tenkawa> | shift appears to be the ubuntu one and I think debian honors it too |
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| 12:38 | <RedEagle> | Sqrt{not}: greattt thanks 👍installing ".python-is-python3" fixed everything automatically.. |
| 12:38 | <Tenkawa> | hendursaga: either way you should be able to fix by editing the /etc/default/grub settings and update-grub now |
| 12:39 | <tepozoa> | and "passwd root" right? :) |
| 12:39 | <hendursaga> | OK I'm in the GRUB menu.. |
| 12:42 | <hendursaga> | Tenkawa: I don't have root, so how can I edit that file? |
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| 12:44 | <Tenkawa> | oh.. yeah unless you can mount it on another machine or get it up to a runlevel and use sudo thats rough |
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| 12:47 | <hendursaga> | OK I reset it, thanks! |
| 12:48 | <hendursaga> | (I was able to append init=/bin/bash to GRUB, input encryption password, re-mount / and /proc, passwd, then reboot) |
| 12:49 | <hendursaga> | FreeBSD makes this process so much easier, lol |
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| 13:00 | <tepozoa> | big picture, it's because people who build the things belive that the root rescue shell should have a password required to access it - this /can/ be disabled by you by changing your defaults |
| 13:01 | <tepozoa> | in the old days, it was done in /etc/inittabe but in the systemd world it's done in /usr/lib/systemd/system/rescue.service |
| 13:01 | <jmcnaught> | https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#idm1615 |
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| 13:02 | <jmcnaught> | Also do not edit /usr/lib/systemd/system/rescue.service directly, but a copy of it in /etc/systemd/system/ (or use the "systemctl edit rescue.service" command like in the link above |
| 13:03 | <tepozoa> | yes, my comment was meant to describe /where/ it was done |
| 13:03 | <tepozoa> | "how are these screws built?" |
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| 13:35 | <RoyK> | ,v rust |
| 13:35 | <judd> | No package named 'rust' was found in amd64. |
| 13:36 | <sney> | ,v rustc |
| 13:36 | <judd> | Package: rustc on amd64 -- stretch: 1.34.2+dfsg1-1~deb9u1; buster: 1.41.1+dfsg1-1~deb10u1; bookworm: 1.48.0+dfsg1-2; bullseye: 1.48.0+dfsg1-2; sid: 1.48.0+dfsg1-2; experimental: 1.52.1+dfsg1-1~exp3 |
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| 13:46 | <live> | -In the voice of the character MR Hankey The Christmas Poo character from the TV Show South Park-. |
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| 13:46 | <live> | Howdy ho! |
| 13:46 | <live> | XD |
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| 13:47 | <live> | Man!, This IRC Chat is as dead as an old man's dick. |
| 13:47 | <live> | XD |
| 13:47 | <zleap> | live, how can we help ? |
| 13:48 | <amacater> | !ask |
| 13:48 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:48 | <live> | I am all good, I am just here to chat. |
| 13:48 | <live> | XD |
| 13:48 | <zleap> | ah ok cool |
| 13:48 | <live> | No one is chatting here, I think everyone is AFK. |
| 13:48 | <live> | XD |
| 13:48 | <RoyK> | https://xkcd.com/1782/ ;) |
| 13:48 | -!- | live is now known as MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo |
| 13:48 | <vv221> | !chat |
| 13:48 | <dpkg> | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic or #moocows; or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/ |
| 13:49 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | Sorry, I am new to IRC Chat. |
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| 13:49 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | I am using the Sparky Linux Distro/ OS. |
| 13:49 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | It is based on the Linux Debian OS/ Distro. |
| 13:49 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | :) |
| 13:50 | <amacater> | Again: this is a Debian support channel - we can't really help with derivatives - they do things differently there |
| 13:50 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | I am off to the other #debian-offtopic, Bye. |
| 13:50 | <amacater> | !sparky |
| 13:50 | <dpkg> | SparkyLinux is a Linux distribution based on <testing>. It is not supported in #debian or #debian-next. http://sparkylinux.org/ See also <based on debian>. |
| 13:51 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | That is cool, I am going to the other General Chat IRC Chat Server to just chat to people since this is a help section to help people. |
| 13:51 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | See you later. |
| 13:51 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | :) |
| 13:51 | <zleap> | k |
| 13:52 | <Blendie> | may the force be with you |
| 13:52 | <Blendie> | check if the sber is working |
| 13:52 | <Blendie> | obi wan is always with us |
| 13:54 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | -nickserv- Register |
| 13:54 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | Crap! |
| 13:54 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | -NickServ- REGISTER |
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| 13:55 | <sney> | MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo: you need to /msg nickserv , the / makes it a command |
| 13:56 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | help |
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| 13:57 | <RoyK> | !experimental |
| 13:57 | <dpkg> | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
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| 13:59 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | I give up. |
| 13:59 | <MRHankeyTheChristmasPoo> | XD |
| 13:59 | <RoyK> | what really is experimental? I thought Sid was the bad guy, but then there's experiemntal. When did it arrive? |
| 13:59 | <sney> | experimental is a holding area for packages that the maintainer doesn't want to migrate to testing |
| 14:00 | <somiaj> | RoyK: What abou tthat factoid didn't you really understand? It use to be a place to put packages before they were ready for sid, though it has also truned into a place packages can sit during the freeze. |
| 14:00 | <somiaj> | RoyK: it isn't a full distribution, it is a set of packages that can be used with sid if a user wants to (maybe it is like the backports for sid) |
| 14:01 | <RoyK> | sney: s/testing/unstable/ ? |
| 14:01 | <somiaj> | RoyK: No switch needed |
| 14:01 | <sney> | RoyK: no. packages in unstable automatically migrate to testing after a few days. |
| 14:01 | <sney> | RoyK: packages in experimental migrate nowhere. |
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| 14:02 | <sney> | it's a way to have the software available for specific installations, without it going through the usual debian workflow. |
| 14:02 | <RoyK> | sney: I see - thanks |
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| 14:02 | <RoyK> | I didn't think there was something like an automatic migration in debian |
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| 14:03 | <somiaj> | RoyK: you might want to read up on the debian release process, there has always been automatic migration from sid -> testing |
| 14:03 | <somiaj> | it is all part of the release process |
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| 14:04 | <sney> | and when the migration stops, in final preparation for a stable release, that's called the "freeze." which you probably heard of in the past ~6 months. |
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| 14:12 | <bleb> | FYI the buster installer worked fine |
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| 14:12 | <bleb> | i will circle back around and try the bullseye installers to try and narrow down the problem |
| 14:13 | <somiaj> | bleb: you can install buster minimum system, upgrade to bullseye, then install the rest of your software if you don't want to deal with tracking down the issue |
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| 14:13 | <bleb> | yeah, i am more concerned with the regression in the installation media |
| 14:13 | <bleb> | if i need something from bullseye i will upgrade though |
| 14:14 | <bleb> | now i'm trying to get 4k working in xfce |
| 14:14 | <bleb> | some people have said to install this package: https://packages.debian.org/buster/firmware-amd-graphics |
| 14:15 | <bleb> | but i can't find it in apt |
| 14:15 | <somiaj> | !non-free |
| 14:15 | <dpkg> | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. |
| 14:15 | <amacater> | What does your /etc/apt/sources.list say? Firmware is in non-free |
| 14:15 | <somiaj> | you have to enable non-free to get non-free firmware |
| 14:15 | <bleb> | yea... i thought i checked that but only 4 of the 6 lines have non-free at the end |
| 14:16 | <somiaj> | You might also want to try to firmware installer image, wonder if your device needs some nonfree firmware for the gpu |
| 14:16 | <somiaj> | !firmware images |
| 14:16 | <dpkg> | There are <live> system and <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages available from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ The images are "unofficial" because "official Debian" includes only 100% free software. They are otherwise identical to the normal installer images and prepared by the same Debian Developers. See <check iso>. |
| 14:16 | <bleb> | somiaj: i did use a firmware image though |
| 14:16 | <somiaj> | ahh okay, just a thought |
| 14:16 | <RoyK> | somiaj: thanks for the info - didn't know that - I'm not sure if I need all the rest of the details, though |
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| 14:17 | <amacater> | I would suggest when you do the bullseye install that you _definitely_ use the unofficial non-free firmware image as the firmware detection and install has improved. |
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| 14:17 | <somiaj> | RoyK: If running stable, might not be needed, but if intersted in debian-next, it is useful to understand the debian develoment process (and note that testing/unstable isnt' a release, it is a development version that is available to users) |
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| 14:18 | <bleb> | amacater: no doubt. that's what i was trying before. |
| 14:19 | <bleb> | when installing firmware-amd-graphics i get a lot of warnings like W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/vega20_smc.bin for module amdgpu |
| 14:19 | <bleb> | should i worry about this / install something else? |
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| 14:19 | <amacater> | This on buster ... how new is the machine? |
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| 14:19 | <bleb> | from about 2012 i think |
| 14:20 | <somiaj> | bleb: should be fine, a lot depends on the gpu |
| 14:20 | <amacater> | Ah, Ok - and the graphics card is same age? |
| 14:20 | <bleb> | the gpu is a radeon rx560 |
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| 14:21 | <bleb> | looks good after rebooting |
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| 14:21 | <bleb> | or rather, extremely tiny |
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| 14:22 | <amacater> | So - bullseye - should be fine - various things on net suggest you can install drivers on Buster so bullseye should be fine. |
| 14:24 | <bleb> | if i upgrade from buster you mean? |
| 14:24 | <somiaj> | You can get a newer kernel and firmware from buster-backports |
| 14:24 | <amacater> | Yes or if you use the bullseye non-free firmware inmage |
| 14:25 | <somiaj> | so if you want to stick with buster for the time, but need a newer kernel/firmware, use backports |
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| 14:29 | <bleb> | ok |
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| 14:29 | <bleb> | the bullseye non-free firmware image was not working for me, for different reasons |
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| 14:30 | <somiaj> | I would personally just upgrade and get to using the machine. |
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| 14:38 | <RoyK> | somiaj: I see - thanks - but I'm rarely that into development as such. If I need something bleeding edge, I do it in a vm or container. |
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| 14:41 | <bleb> | somiaj: or in my case, just get to using the machine |
| 14:41 | <somiaj> | yea buster works just fine |
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| 15:25 | <lifesgood> | people, for a long time I chattered political, thinicity, and religion personal aggresive oppinions in many ircs. for a mo momnent of enlightment I understood irc rooms are public logged and controlled places. what made many my opinions unconveninent. I will ovoid to repeat the misktaque. |
| 15:26 | <A|an> | thx |
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| 15:29 | <lifesgood> | I feel feel really chamed in the past be rude to chineses and muslims. |
| 15:30 | <sney> | lifesgood: it will also help to make sure you are in the right channel. personal growth is offtopic for #debian but would be fine material for #debian-offtopic, for instance. |
| 15:30 | <lifesgood> | ok |
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| 15:51 | <allan_wind> | Hi... so after bullseye upgrade my laptop either doesn't wake up in x or only one of the my 3 screens are activate and xrandr will scale that across. How do I troubleshoot this? What package should I look for in Bugs? |
| 15:52 | <lifesgood> | Im going to give a really good warning for people there. In the past Imamaged to backupt all in google drive, so many files were many GB of size. FIrst; google dont allow deinflate locally once it is in drive. 2second; whanen you select anytgung and donload it gather all in a long list if 1GB max size. becouse of that i lost precious files of 25GB. |
| 15:53 | <lifesgood> | I am google ONE customer, ans asked help... they ignored me. |
| 15:53 | <sney> | allan_wind: I would look at video issues first, either reports against the kernel or xorg. |
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| 15:54 | <allan_wind> | sney: so nvidia drivers? |
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| 15:54 | <allan_wind> | sney: I don't really see anything in dmesg, Xorg.0.log, xsessions-errors, or i3-dump |
| 15:54 | <allan_wind> | (surprisingly) |
| 15:54 | <sney> | ah, you're on nvidia. is it optimus? there were some large optimus-related changes in xorg between buster and bullseye. if you're using bumblebee or something you may want to start that config from scratch |
| 15:55 | <allan_wind> | sney: no, I disabled that, and use the dedicated video card |
| 15:55 | <sney> | disabled in the bios? |
| 15:55 | <allan_wind> | sney: yeah |
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| 15:59 | <sney> | you could try enabling nvidia-drm.modeset=1 at boot, and use the xorg modesetting driver instead. |
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| 16:00 | <allan_wind> | sney: /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX? |
| 16:00 | <allan_wind> | or is it a module setting? |
| 16:01 | <sney> | allan_wind: right, via grub. if you don't want the setting to be permanent you can add it at boot by pressing 'e' |
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| 16:01 | <allan_wind> | just that setting? "... and use the ..." is just the consequence? |
| 16:02 | <allan_wind> | Sorry, if not clear, I mean, I just need to set that and then it xorg will use it's modesetting driver |
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| 16:04 | <sney> | you will also need to move the /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/nvidia-drm-outputclass.conf file so that it doesn't load the nvidia X driver, but otherwise modesetting should be used automatically |
| 16:04 | <allan_wind> | cool, I will give a whirl |
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| 16:23 | <lifesgood> | my next choose in future will be AMD cpu twhit AMD GPU, if and only if it presentates sypport of drivers for linux. |
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| 16:25 | <lifesgood> | once with a fashion desk I will let laptop away. |
| 16:26 | <vv221> | lifesgood, AMD CPU and AMD GPU here on the desktop, I get perfect support from Debian. |
| 16:27 | <vv221> | I have good only good experiences with Intel CPU too, as well as Intel ingrated graphics chipsets. |
| 16:27 | <lifesgood> | say the spec please |
| 16:27 | <vv221> | nVIDIA on the other hand is terrible. |
| 16:28 | <vv221> | On the AMD one, CPU is FX-8350 (4 core / 8 threads, 4GHz) and GPU is Radeon R9 380X |
| 16:28 | <sney> | nice classic cpu, I have an 8320 |
| 16:29 | <vv221> | sney, I think this is actually the bigger one I could still put on this motherboard, bought when I messed up a pin on the previous one ;) |
| 16:29 | <sney> | still very competitive for something released in 2012. |
| 16:30 | <vv221> | Yes, and I plan to keep using it for several years ;) |
| 16:30 | <somiaj> | I personally have had good experience with nvidia (even though the non-free drivers can be a pain), they do work nicely if you want to game |
| 16:30 | <vv221> | I like buying old "high end" hardware, usually the models that are still sold are only the more robust ones. |
| 16:30 | <sney> | my motherboard is starting to show some wear so I'm worried that I might need to replace it, thankfully it's still possible to get them with this socket |
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| 16:31 | <vv221> | somiaj, using Mesa on the other hand, gaming with nVIDIA is a chore… |
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| 16:32 | <somiaj> | Hasn't been a chore for me, install the nvidia-kernel-dkms package, and everything just works |
| 16:32 | <vv221> | I meant using Mesa, so nouveau ;) |
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| 16:32 | <somiaj> | yea, my opinion is nvidia non-free has the best preformance, amd is best if you want open drivers, and open nvidia drivers are nothing but a pain (and if you have older hardware good luck) |
| 16:33 | <sney> | agreed somiaj. the nvidia driver package is a nuisance on any platform, but once it's set up it Just Works. there's a GTX 1070 in this machine and I haven't had to think about it at all since the 5.9 gpl shim changes |
| 16:33 | <vv221> | From my own experience, AMD + Mesa and nVIDIA + non-free have had roughly similar performances for a couple years already. |
| 16:33 | <vv221> | So for new hardware, I would suggest going with AMD even for gaming. |
| 16:34 | <sney> | AMD is definitely the more Free option. |
| 16:34 | <lifesgood> | tehn the tice come, I plan to be assisted my a seller that sells all the packet. I need todo tests of compatibility and this is hard. |
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| 16:34 | <sney> | the gpu market is still chaos though, so "I bought the part that was affordable and in stock" is sometimes the only outcome regardless of brand preference |
| 16:35 | <somiaj> | you still need non-free firmware, but yea, for open drivers amd is the way to go, and the difference between the two isn't what it use to be 10+ years ago |
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| 16:36 | <vv221> | somiaj, if there are recent benchmarks that still show better performance on equivalent hardware with nVIDIA non-free (compared to Mesa with AMD), I would be curious to see that ;) |
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| 16:37 | <vv221> | I thought it was mostly equivalent today, but I have not been following all that very closely. |
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| 16:41 | <lifesgood> | today desktopt marquet is drven by performance... all the rest of the world gpus seek equilibrium between energy consume and worl done. |
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| 16:42 | <tchutcha> | Hello everyone, I've tried to install xmonad on my bare metal, however I can't get the command "sudo apt-get install libghc6-xmonad-dev". It says that it's unable to locate it. I've tried to login even without this command, however it only appears a black screen and nothing happens, I've tried to get some programs to launch through the keybinding but nothing... Does anyone know how to fix this |
| 16:42 | <tchutcha> | issue? |
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| 16:43 | <sney> | ,v libghc6-xmonad-dev |
| 16:43 | <judd> | No package named 'libghc6-xmonad-dev' was found in amd64. |
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| 16:43 | <sney> | tchutcha: perhaps you are following instructions for a different distro? |
| 16:43 | <lifesgood> | IM sure the current rends are power effective processors... of any kind. |
| 16:45 | <lifesgood> | err I mean to consume little power. |
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| 16:46 | <tchutcha> | No, it's precisely on the debian wiki that I'm following |
| 16:46 | <Sqrt{not}> | tchutcha, which wiki page? |
| 16:47 | <tchutcha> | https://wiki.debian.org/Xmonad |
| 16:47 | <sney> | page not updated since 2017 |
| 16:47 | <allan_wind> | I used xmonad for a while, it was great, but moved to i3 and it's great too |
| 16:47 | <sney> | ah, looks like the packages are now called libghc-xmonad-* without the 6 |
| 16:48 | <vv221> | tchutcha, I see there is a libghc-xmonad-dev package now, it might be what you are looking for. |
| 16:48 | <vv221> | (and now I need to learn to type faster than sney…) |
| 16:48 | <tchutcha> | Ah... Suppose it is... I feel so dumb... |
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| 16:48 | <vv221> | No reason to feel dumb for following documentation ;) |
| 16:49 | <tchutcha> | Ok guys, thanks a lot, I'll try to use those packages to see if it works now, thank you very much :) |
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| 16:49 | <sney> | tchutcha: if you get it working, feel free to get a wiki account and update the instructions |
| 16:49 | <vv221> | Feel free to suggest an update of the documentation afterwards. |
| 16:49 | <sney> | oi |
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| 16:51 | <jhutchins> | !xmonad |
| 16:51 | <dpkg> | xmonad is a dynamically tiling <window manager> written in <haskell>. http://wiki.debian.org/Xmonad http://www.xmonad.org/ http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Frequently_asked_questions #xmonad on irc.libera.chat. |
| 16:52 | <sney> | they left while we were suggesting wiki updates |
| 16:52 | <lifesgood> | to defend my point of view, all Uefi today allows ebable or not boost of cpu. This shows our current state is in well performance and only rare rare boosts (overclock,,w?) are allowed. |
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| 17:13 | <lifesgood> | with M! apple shows courage to shift to RISC. I image ALL the apps compilations necessary to get all ok. But also show that the decision to maintain linux a monolithic kernel is at most a tradition, fear from whar is better. |
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| 17:27 | <imMute> | lifesgood: what the hell are you smoking and where can I get some? |
| 17:28 | <sney> | got that oob translation kush |
| 17:29 | <lifesgood> | indy, dont use drugs. |
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| 17:29 | <lifesgood> | imute |
| 17:29 | <somiaj> | your signal to noise ratio is just a bit low |
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| 17:30 | <imMute> | somiaj: I'd say it's damn near zero, but I've not seen every single comment of theirs. |
| 17:31 | <tepozoa> | sney you have me laughin |
| 17:31 | <sney> | lol |
| 17:31 | <tepozoa> | "hit you so hard you talk funny" - leafly |
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| 17:40 | <lifesgood> | imMute, only take prescribed meds, and dont abuse. Many stydents abuse ritalin as a performance booster. but play with neurotransmitters is dagerous. |
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| 17:42 | <mason> | !chat |
| 17:42 | <dpkg> | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic or #moocows; or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/ |
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| 17:43 | <mason> | Oh, I see the backlog. But still. |
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| 18:07 | <lifesgood> | I apologigw if I may be not of much help in solving bugs. but sometimes envision possible futures may beee goo. |
| 18:09 | <bremner> | lifesgood: lack of knowledge is fine, but try to stay on topic. #debian-offtopic exists for more freeform / less support related discussion. |
| 18:09 | <lifesgood> | I tryly forsee a microkernel based linux. |
| 18:09 | <bremner> | yeah, please forsee elsewhere |
| 18:09 | <lifesgood> | ok |
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| 18:11 | <lifesgood> | I will migrate to offtopic. more appropriate I suppose. |
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| 19:53 | <sychill> | ,v fdisk |
| 19:53 | <judd> | Package: fdisk on amd64 -- buster: 2.33.1-0.1; bookworm: 2.36.1-8; bullseye: 2.36.1-8; sid: 2.36.1-8 |
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| 19:57 | <somiaj> | sychill: you can also /msg judd v package |
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| 20:00 | <sychill> | somiaj: thanks for the tip. I'll try to remember “judd” |
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| 20:01 | <sychill> | i'd like to know the stretch version |
| 20:01 | <sychill> | it's not mentioned on packages.debian.org either |
| 20:04 | <Sqrt{not}> | I have a stretch box next to me. fdisk -v on that box says: fdisk from util-linux 2.29.2 |
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| 20:05 | <Sqrt{not}> | (maybe a backport, but it is stretch) |
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| 20:06 | <somiaj> | ,v util-linux |
| 20:06 | <judd> | Package: util-linux on amd64 -- stretch: 2.29.2-1+deb9u1; stretch-security: 2.29.2-1+deb9u1; buster: 2.33.1-0.1; bookworm: 2.36.1-8; bullseye: 2.36.1-8; sid: 2.36.1-8 |
| 20:06 | <somiaj> | in version 2.29.2-3: * Split out cfdisk, fdisk and sfdisk to separate package |
| 20:06 | <somiaj> | so just after stretch it became its own package |
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| 20:08 | <Sqrt{not}> | and /sbin/fdisk on that stretch box is an actual file: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 118056 Mar 7 2018 /sbin/fdisk |
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| 20:14 | <somiaj> | Sqrt{not}: it is still an actual file on my bullseye box? |
| 20:15 | <somiaj> | just wondering if you thought it changed or something |
| 20:15 | <Sqrt{not}> | No, just making sure it isn't some kind of alternatives symlink or other such magic |
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| 20:17 | <sychill> | it seems like there were some significant changes in sfdisk 2.26. I recall that sfdisk would always overwrite the old partition with whatever command it's getting, but now it's not. So I'm trying to do a sanity check |
| 20:18 | <sychill> | so after the jump to Bullseye, sfdisk complains if there's an existing partition, which breaks scripts |
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| 20:23 | <sychill> | fuck it.. i'll just do a wipefs before sfdisk every time from now on |
| 20:23 | <lifesgood> | caml donwn |
| 20:24 | <lifesgood> | take a cup o tea |
| 20:24 | * | sychill hops off his camel |
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| 21:58 | <jhutchins> | sychill: There are several alternatives to sfdisk. |
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| 23:13 | <anon8947> | So the apparmor profiles for Debian Bullseye fail to account for the package squid-deb-proxy |
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| 23:46 | <anon8947> | It seems there's some incompatibility between the old defaults from my old config and the new ones. Regenerating my configs over the new one seems to work. |
| 23:47 | <anon8947> | So... potentially false-alert. |
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| 23:53 | <sychill> | jhutchins: yeah i'm familiar with cfdisk, sgdisk, and parted as well. They all either had incorrect documention or a clumbsy syntax with vague specifications. I settled on sfdisk. Even with sfdisk's bizarre new behavior it's probably still favorable to the others |
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