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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-08-31

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01:57<richard_h>it seems rsyslogd has to be restarted, rather than HUP'd, to reload its config. Doesn't that mean messages could be lost, that otherwise wouldn't?
01:58<richard_h>and does the same apply for messages coming from the systemd journal?
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02:23<grawity>with standalone rsyslogd – dunno, maybe? I'm surprised it doesn't do SIGHUP; does it maybe have some kind of graceful restart that keeps the sockets open?
02:23<grawity>with imjournal – shouldn't happen, as rsyslogd itself reads .journal files and keeps track of the cursor
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02:23<grawity>with journal forwarding messages to rsyslogd through the compat syslog socket – same as standalone, but I don't think this is the default anymore, is it
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03:40<hlauer>Hi, ftp.de.debian.org is an alias for debian.inf.tu-dresden.de which is down at the moment - will the alias change?
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04:16<richard_h>grawity: I don't know how the connection works. I don't see any references to 'journal' in rsyslog.conf
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04:49<tjcarter>grawity: https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#persistent-journal references the change
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05:08<tjcarter>grawity: I was pondering ditching rsyslogd because duplicated functionality earlier. Decided to do it. Checked for everything I expect to still record logs separately and they seem to be working
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05:15<EmleyMoor>hlauer: Is deb.debian.org working for you?
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05:18<crawler>EmleyMoor works here and resolves to 199.232.82.132, 2a04:4e42:54::644
05:19<EmleyMoor>crawler: Question was specifically to hlauer
05:19<crawler>Okay
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05:40<JazzyJeff>Morning all, trying to spin up a fresh Debian (10/11) VM via amd64 net inst and I'm not able to access any repo/mirror at all during the installation? This is really weird, because the server connectivity is normal and all other VMs on the system are fine
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05:41<JazzyJeff>https://img.tomlawson.io/images/2021/08/31/image.png
05:42<hlauer><EmleyMoor>: Yep. Is that automatically resolving to a nearby debian mirror ?
05:42<crawler>JazzyJeff did you check the logs in virtual console?
05:42<JazzyJeff>It doesn't matter which mirror I select it seems, or whether using Debian10/11
05:44<EmleyMoor>hlauer: Should do
05:44<hlauer>debian.inf.tu-dresden.de is now up again, too. Which I kindof expected at a good technical university
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05:45<hlauer><EmleyMoor>: will try that next time, thanks!
05:47<JazzyJeff>Struggling to get it open? As I understand it I need to press LALT+F4 to open virtual console 4, but can't get it to work through noVNC
05:48<JazzyJeff>Can I get to it by executing a shell?
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05:49<crawler>I guess it is CTRL+ALT+Fx
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05:50<crawler>there is a menu in noVNC to pass those keypresses
05:50<jm_>JazzyJeff: you have shell on tty2, other options you could try is alt-<cursor left/right>
05:50<jm_>or iv your viewer can send special keystrokes as indicated above
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05:52<JazzyJeff>I tried the little menu, but it doesn't seem to pass through for some reason! Definitely not a network issue
05:53<JazzyJeff>apt-get update works fine to default debian repo: https://pb.tomlawson.io/?3617889050439e3f#Ff2RXGSqANzCFxet9PjiFBppFc1Lx79wJ1ERQ16GYrej <--- VM on the same machine
05:54<jelly>JazzyJeff, is networking and dns resolution working correctly inside debian-installer? "ping deb.debian.org"
05:54<JazzyJeff>(aware it's an alias but it should resolve to same repo right?)
05:55<jelly>JazzyJeff, are you using some older bullseye installer image?
05:55<jelly>use 11.0 images.
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05:56<JazzyJeff>@jelly Good idea, looks like that's where a problem lies. https://img.tomlawson.io/images/2021/08/31/image84eaeef6e384c009.png
05:56<JazzyJeff>No, fresh image from yesterday
05:56<jelly>do you happen to know which image exactly?
05:57<JazzyJeff>Sure
05:57<JazzyJeff>'debian-11.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso'
05:58<JazzyJeff>downloaded yesterday via wget (link taken from Debian official page)
05:59<jelly>okay, that'd be the latest
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05:59<jelly>sorry, I was confused for a bit by the output of that "VM on the same machine"
06:00<jelly>ping failing to resolve points to dns or networking issues
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06:00<jelly>does "ifconfig -a" in that busybox shell show a configured ip address? "route -n"? "cat /etc/resolv.conf"?
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06:02<JazzyJeff>Yeah, it's got a correct IP, and /etc/resolv.conf has the correct gateway
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06:03<jelly>can you ping that gateway by ip?
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06:04<JazzyJeff>Ohhhh I think i've figured it out...
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06:05<JazzyJeff>For some reason it's been given the same IP as another machine
06:06<JazzyJeff>Highly confusing as that's a reserved lease...
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06:11<JazzyJeff>Anywho, looks like it's a local network issue. Thanks for the help <33
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06:13<crawler>How did you access the virtual console?
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06:21<grawity>if you're cloning VMs, make sure to reset your /etc/machine-id afterwards (just like you'd reset the SSH keys)
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06:22<grawity>DHCP servers prioritize the Client Identifier field above the actual hardware MAC – and some DHCP clients, systemd-networkd in particular, send a Client Identifier that is *not* MAC-address-based, but instead based on /etc/machine-id (or /etc/dhcpcd.duid, or similar)
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06:58<jelly>grawity, isc-dhcp-client in debian also sends option61 that does _not_ equal mac address
06:59<jelly>ruined my static address allocation after release upgrade
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07:45<grawity>what does it use
07:46<grawity>because somehow I didn't expect isc-dhcp-client to do that as well
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09:06<tepozoa>^ re: machine-id, use the command `systemd-machine-id-setup` to regenerate (no need to DIY)
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09:09<ecraven>hello ;) I'm looking for Simon McVittie (the maintainer of policykit-1), is he maybe here sometimes?
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09:12<petn-randall>ecraven: You'll find him in #debian-devel, his nick is smcv.
09:12<ecraven>thanks!
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09:16<JazzyJeff>@crawler I didn't, I opened a shell
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09:16<crawler>thanks
09:17<JazzyJeff>@grawity thanks, I think you're right and this was probably the root cause -- I've definitely used the ID 116 before
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10:05<EmleyMoor>I want to secureboot Debian on a qemu-system-x86_64 - I have tried https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot/VirtualMachine without satisfaction.
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10:08<DusXMT>Greetings. I just had a bit of a thought about Debian package management from a user's point of view, and how invaluable aptitude is for purging the configuration of uninstalled packages and erasing obsolete packages... this made me wonder if there's a particular reason why this functionality isn't present in such an easy-to-access manner in apt, if aptitude isn't installed by
10:08<DusXMT>default? On a clean setup, what is the intended way to achieve those two tasks?
10:08<DusXMT>I guess configured but not installed packages can be listed with dpkg, but what about obsolete packages?
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10:11<crawler>apt purge packagename
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10:13<DusXMT>crawler: but is there an equivalent of "aptitude purge '~o'"? (or '~c', but I guess the list of those packages can be found via --get-selection)
10:14<DusXMT>*dpkg --get-selection
10:14<DusXMT>*dpkg --get-selections
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10:15<crawler>I don't think so, as far as I know obsolete packages only exist after system upgrading
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10:16<jelly>they exist as soon as they're not available from any configured repo
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10:18<jelly>DusXMT, apt is slowly but steadily gaining some similar search featuress
10:18<jelly>!obsolete
10:18<dpkg>If you remove a repository from your sources.list (e.g. removing <dmm>), then you should check what packages you have installed from the other repository. Synaptic and aptitude have a "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" list. Or, "aptitude search '~o'". Note this doesn't include packages that exist in the repo at a different version to the one you have installed; see <not available> <list repositories>.
10:18<jelly>!not available
10:18<dpkg>To get a list of packages you have installed now, that are not available from any repository in your sources.list: aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'
10:19<jelly>^ cares about versions
10:21<DusXMT>!aptitude
10:21<dpkg>rumour has it, aptitude is a terminal-based package manager that can be used in a command-line mode (aptitude install foo ; aptitude remove goo) as well as a text user interface mode (just run "aptitude"). Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> <aptitude docs> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude or http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9.
10:21<DusXMT>!why aptitude
10:21<dpkg>aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. <lenny->squeeze>, <squeeze->wheezy>). http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9.
10:21<DusXMT>!why not aptitude
10:21<dpkg>Aptitude is more memory intensive and slower than <apt-get>, the <ncurses> interface is always loaded regardless of being used or not. Moreover the resolver can sometimes produce unexpected results and most of <aptitude>'s former exclusive features are now available in <apt-get> as well. Ask me about <why aptitude> and see http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9.
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10:26<tepozoa>DusXMT: like you, I have aptitude installed for this one specific use case (post dist upgrade package cleanup), I've not found a better tool
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10:34<jelly>testing+unstable mixes, or any other kind of repo mixing (snapshots, backports) is where aptitude can be great for picking and matching versions
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11:29<LeLutin>if a configuration file is getting generated by something like configdb-common, is there a way to detect taht it's "apart of a package"? (e.g. like we can do with static config files using dpkg -S )
11:29<LeLutin>I'm trying to figure out which RT config files are auto-generated vs which ones were created manually
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11:33<imMute>LeLutin: files created outside of unpacking/installing a package are not tracked by dpkg/apt at all.
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11:37<LeLutin>imMute: ok, and files created by dbconfig-common count as manually created I'm guessing?
11:37<LeLutin>(in the eyes of dpkg)
11:38<imMute>I don't know what dbconfig-common is, but if it's a program you run or something, any files it creates won't be associated with the package as far as dpkg/apt are concerned
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11:51<tristero>LeLutin: it's not foolproof, but you can look through the postinst scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info to see if it's created there
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11:57<LeLutin>tristero: ah interesting! I didn't know about this directory :) thanks
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11:58<imMute>LeLutin: note that files created by the postinstall script *also* will not be tracked by dpkg/apt.
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12:02<LeLutin>right. thanks for the info!
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12:14<tepozoa>in RPM, the directive is %ghost in the package - for example, you can declare "%ghost %{_localstatedir}/log/mylog.log" which is "owned" by the package for the purposes of tracking and removal, where it's created after the package is installed. Does the DEB packaging design have a similar feature? (this is my ignorance in packaging DEBs)
12:15<bremner>you could try #packaging for questions like that
12:15<imMute>tepozoa: I'm not familiar with RPM, but AfAIK, if a file isn't part of the files to be installed by unpacking a package, it won't be tracked by dpkg
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12:38<sfinks>hi, I would like to enable unlocking my luks partition via ssh and found a howto for it. The howto covers only IPv4 in the ip= setting but I would like to be able to use IPv4 and IPv6 to connect to the initramfs dropbear instance. Is that possible? How?
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13:01<ibs2001>Installando bullseye da qualsiasi immagine iso DVD (es firmware-11.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso) viene emesso il messaggio:
13:01<ibs2001>"Il tentativo di configurare apt per installare ulteriori pacchetti dal supporto non è riuscito" e l'installazione non prosegue
13:01<ibs2001>cosa posso fare?
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13:02<sney>!it
13:02<dpkg>Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. - debian-italian@lists.debian.org
13:02<sney>or use english here
13:02<ibs2001>ok
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13:27<ibs2001>Installing bullseye from any DVD iso image (eg firmware-11.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso) on VirtualBox machine, the message is issued: "An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the media failed" and the installation fails . What can I do?
13:30<trench>ibs2001: firmware?
13:31<sney>sounds like the iso might be a partial or corrupt download, did you verify the checksum?
13:31<trench>never seen an iso from debian named firmware
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13:32<trench>ibs2001: where did you get that iso?
13:32<sney>trench: it's on cdimage,
13:32<sney>!firmware image
13:32<dpkg>There are <live> system and <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages available from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ The images are "unofficial" because "official Debian" includes only 100% free software. They are otherwise identical to the normal installer images and prepared by the same Debian Developers. See <check iso>.
13:32<trench>okey
13:32<ibs2001>i have also used jigdo
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13:33<ibs2001>same results with all DVD iso images
13:34<sney>did you verify the iso checksum?
13:34<ibs2001>I have verified checksum
13:34<sney>hmm
13:35<trench>ibs2001: what kind of host system do you have?
13:35<ibs2001>with buster, and same machine no problems
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13:36<trench>you run virtualbox in Linux?
13:36<ibs2001>yes
13:37<trench>does other isos work?
13:37<ibs2001>yes, W10, Ubuntu 20.04LTS
13:38<ibs2001>also Debian buster
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13:38<trench>what package is it?
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13:40<trench>what does ctrl + alt +f4 say?
13:40<trench>did you try to go into a console and check?
13:40<ibs2001>Installation from live Debian bullseye works fine
13:40<ibs2001>no
13:41<trench>so the firmware is not working but the standard netinstall works fine?
13:41<ibs2001>I now tray to go into a console
13:41<trench>there should be an install log
13:42<ibs2001>"so the firmware is not working but the standard netinstall works fine?" : yes
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13:54<ibs2001>ctrl + alt + f4. He tells me "incorrect architecture" and unmounts the CD. But the same machine worked with Debian 10.10.0 64bit
13:54<sney>incorrect architecture? can you pastebin or screenshot the whole output?
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13:56<ibs2001>give me some time and I'll try to send a screenshot
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14:06<trench>https://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-in-Linux
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14:08<ibs2001>sorry: how can I insert an image?
14:08<trench>you mean to a webpage?
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14:10<ibs2001>I want to send the screenshot
14:10<trench>post it to a webpage?
14:11<trench>https://imgur.com works fine?
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14:11<DusXMT>ibs2001: IRC doesn't support in-chat file sharing. There is a peer-to-peer file sharing feature, but I've heard it's unreliable
14:11<DusXMT>The best way to share a picture is to upload it somewhere and then paste a link
14:12<ibs2001>ok
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14:21<ibs2001>screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/oeIIOuk.png
14:24<sney>ibs2001: interesting, can you mount the iso on your host and verify that it has a debian mirror structure?
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14:25<sney>you should see directories called 'dists' and 'pool', and pool will have debian packages in subdirectories
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14:28<ibs2001>yes there is 'dists' and 'pool/a,b,c...,liba, etc'
14:28<ibs2001>structure looks good
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14:30<ibs2001>example 'Debian 11.0.0 amd64 1/pool/main/a/akonadi'
14:30<sney>with .deb files?
14:31<Sqrt{not}>it looks like it created a good source list entry for that disk after it scanned it
14:31<ibs2001>yes with deb files
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14:34<Guest5921>hi my installer hangs at 77% removing 10 packets? what can i do? is usb corrupt?
14:35<Guest5921>it goes on forget it...
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14:35<sney>ibs2001: I'm going to test this, with jigdo as well and see if I can reproduce the same behavior. it looks like it should work.
14:37<ibs2001>ok
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14:49*sney forgot that you can't see the overall progress of a jigdo download
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15:49<ckosloff>One of the hurdles after new install of bullseye is file associations; links in email don't launch browser (Firefox), pdf trying to open with gimp. etc. I tried setting assaciations but Sytem Settings in KDE doesn't work, a search didn't yield significant results ans I am stuck with this/
15:51<sarnold>ckosloff: gimp opening pdfs is probably https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=935426
15:51<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/935426 in mailcap (open): «mailcap.order entries aren't always keyed by package name»; severity: important; opened: 2019-08-22; last modified: 2020-11-14.
15:51<sarnold>it's a few years old, it might need a poke or something
15:51<sarnold>ckosloff: comment number four here has some advice on how to select a better pdf viewer https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/1893277
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15:53<sarnold>ckosloff: links in email, I wonder if your mail client is confined with apparmor; I don't recall if any of them have an enforcing profile by default in debian, but checking dmesg or auditd logs for DENIED lines ought to help answer that quickly
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16:14<tuxd3v>hello
16:15<tuxd3v>when I insert a pendrive, I believe its a automount, or should be right?
16:15<tuxd3v>I got this unit:
16:15<tuxd3v>media-tuxd3v-d\x2dlive\x2011.0.0\x20ma\x20amd64.mount loaded active mounted /media/tuxd3v/d-live 11.0.0 ma amd64
16:15<tuxd3v>I cant access the content of it
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16:16<tuxd3v>because of special chars it has in its name
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16:17<tuxd3v>the pen is correctly mounted however
16:17<sarnold>tuxd3v: what does it mean "to access the contents"? what error message do you get from what tool?
16:17<tuxd3v>but the mount unit is very strange
16:17<tuxd3v>I mean I can´t do a cat for example on the unit
16:18<tuxd3v>systemctl cat unit.type
16:18<tuxd3v>it doesn´ t find it due to its very peculiar name
16:18<tuxd3v>media-tuxd3v-d\x2dlive\x2011.0.0\x20ma\x20amd64.mount
16:19<sarnold>tuxd3v: ah, try systemctl cat 'media-tuxd3v-d\x2dlive\x2011.0.0\x20ma\x20amd64.mount'
16:19<sarnold>the ' will ask the shell to not interpret the \x things funny
16:20<sarnold>(at least that's my guess)
16:20<tuxd3v>No files found for media-tuxd3v-d\x2dlive\x2011.0.0\x20ma\x20amd64.mount.
16:20<tuxd3v>it doesn´ t work :/
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16:20<tuxd3v>many thanks for your try
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16:39<tuxd3v>I can see the unit only with : systemctl list-units --type=mount
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16:39<tuxd3v>I can´ t access it
16:40<sarnold>are you using a funny shell like fish or something?
16:40<tuxd3v>no I am in bash shell
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16:41<tuxd3v>where should go a mount unit from a pendrive?
16:42<tuxd3v>in /run/systemd, but I made a find and I cannot find that unit
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16:42<mooff>/etc/systemd/system/pendrive.mount
16:42<mooff>must `systemctl daemon-reload` to pick up -any- changes to unit files
16:42<tuxd3v>this pendrive is the debian 11 live amd64 image
16:43*mooff scrolls
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16:44<tuxd3v>after systemctl daemon-reload
16:44<tuxd3v>I can see it only in:
16:44<tuxd3v>/sys/fs/cgroup/system.slice/media-tuxd3v-d\x2dlive\x2011.0.0\x20ma\x20amd64.mount
16:44<tepozoa>the name of the unit file on disk has to match the path
16:45<tuxd3v>before the daemon reload it was not there
16:45<tepozoa>replace / with - in the name
16:45<mooff>you simply want to cd to the mount point?
16:45<tepozoa>media-somedir-name.mount == /media/somedir/mount
16:45<sarnold>tuxd3v: btw what are you going to do with this .mount file? most people never even know they're there..
16:45<mooff>try `mount | grep tuxd3v`
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16:46<tuxd3v>I tried this: find / -name \*.mount
16:46<tuxd3v>it doesn´ t show up
16:46<tepozoa>they're generated at boot from /etc/fstab to /run/systemd
16:46<mooff>if you just want to read the files on the pen drive.. can forget about the systemd mount file
16:46<tuxd3v>at least not in /run/systemd/
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16:47<mooff>running 'mount' will show all of your filesystem mounts and their locations
16:47<tuxd3v>no, I just wanted to see how system created the file :)
16:47<tuxd3v>what´ s in that unit :)
16:47<mooff>lol
16:48<tuxd3v>since its a pendrive
16:48<tuxd3v>its diferent from a typical mount point
16:48<tuxd3v>in my opinion... doesn´ t it would have to be a .automount unit file?
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16:48<tuxd3v>for what I understand systemd is unable to present a unit file for a pendrive that has spaces in its name
16:49<tuxd3v>its a flaw
16:49<tepozoa>if you're talking about "I plug in my pen drive and it shows up mounted for use" that's the udisks2 subsytem, it's triggered by udev seeing a new device
16:49<tepozoa>what are you trying to *accomplish*, big picture?
16:50<tuxd3v>I am trying to see the unit description and so on
16:50<tuxd3v>I am learning systemd
16:50<tepozoa>gotcha - so you want to just learn how a .mount file is structured?
16:51<tuxd3v>not a normal mount file, a .mount unit generated froma pendrive event ;)
16:51<mooff>https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/570987
16:51<mooff>nice questions tuxd3v
16:51<tuxd3v>I downloaded the debian 11 livecd
16:52<tuxd3v>and its name has spaces
16:52<mooff>that answer clarifies the purpose.. my read is that you would create an automount when you want that behavior on something you would have otherwise put in /etc/fstab
16:52<tuxd3v>when I inserted it, I can´ t access the unit file
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16:52<mooff>for removable drives.. you don't always know ahead of time what they are. so udisks2 / udev manage them as tepozoa says
16:53<tuxd3v>but systemd also manages them
16:53<tepozoa>https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/udisks/
16:53<tuxd3v>~# systemctl list-units --type=mount|grep media
16:53<tuxd3v> media-tuxd3v-d\x2dlive\x2011.0.0\x20ma\x20amd64.mount loaded active mounted /media/tuxd3v/d-live 11.0.0 ma amd64
16:53<tepozoa>systemd *can* manage them if something else injects an "ephemeral" unit to the system
16:53<mooff>my guess is that udisks2 creates a systemd mount unit
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16:55<mooff>try finding which udev rule(s) are responsible for it :)
16:55<mooff>it might not depend on udisks2, even
16:56<tepozoa>udisks2 provides the rules
16:56<tepozoa>the package itself drops in a couple of systemd units, the rules and some dbus stuff
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17:00<tuxd3v>ho I got the Idea of automount unit... its purpose its to mount filesystems when you try to access that specific path
17:00<tuxd3v>thanks
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17:02<tuxd3v>nevertheless I am still surprised by a .mount unit that exists, but I can´ t find it on the system :/
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17:02<tuxd3v>media-tuxd3v-d\x2dlive\x2011.0.0\x20ma\x20amd64.mount
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17:03<tepozoa>it's "ephemeral"
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17:04<tuxd3v>tepozoa, I don´ t think that is the problem..
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17:04<tuxd3v>the problem is that the unit has ' ' and '-' on its name
17:05<mooff>i think tepozoa's right
17:05<tepozoa>https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-mount.html
17:05<tepozoa>the problem is, this is a complex subsystem of systemd and you're guessing
17:06<tuxd3v>systemd translated that to '\x20' and '\x2d'
17:06<tepozoa>you can have a mount created by udisks2 calling systemd-mount inline without a unit on disk (it's one possible way)
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17:07<mooff>did you try `systemctl cat *tuxd3v*.mount` ?
17:07<tuxd3v>moof , good idea :)
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17:09<tuxd3v>~# systemctl cat *media*.mount
17:09<tuxd3v>No files found for media-tuxd3v-d\x2dlive\x2011.0.0\x20ma\x20amd64.mount.
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17:09<tuxd3v>:D
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17:09<tuxd3v>I am going to change pendrive label ;)
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17:09<tuxd3v>to a sane name then try again :)
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17:10<mooff>wait up
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17:10<mooff>it may be because the unit only exists in memory - is 'ephemeral'
17:10<mooff>the \x2d etc in the name is normal for systemd
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17:12<tuxd3v>now I am in another problem.. can´ t change the label name in gparted :/
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17:13<sney>(fwiw, that jigdo firmware-11 iso from a few hours ago worked fine in both virt-manager and virtualbox, so it was probably user error.)
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17:14<tuxd3v>gparted only let me resize, copy, format... doesn´ t let me change the image label name
17:15<Sqrt{not}>tuxd3v, the thing is mounted, you can access it.
17:15<sney>gui tools are sometimes less powerful than their terminal counterparts
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17:16<Sqrt{not}>tuxd3v, it is mounted as "/media/tuxd3v/d-live 11.0.0 ma amd64"
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17:16<tuxd3v>yes it is mounted and I assume I can access its content
17:16<Sqrt{not}>you don't need to do anything in the systemd definitions, it is an event driven automount
17:16<Sqrt{not}>so, just relax and enjoy it.
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17:17<mooff>tuxd3v: https://i.imgur.com/Mvey20B.png
17:17<Sqrt{not}>you are over-complicating it. you don't need to edit systemd
17:17<mooff>i think they just want to learn.. which makes us learn too
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17:18<mooff>tuxd3v: that appears in `systemctl cat *mooff*.mount` .. i have that partition listed in /etc/fstab
17:18<mooff>i suppose the uuid blanking is a bit useless when /media/mooff is identifying enough (lol)
17:19<at0m>tuxd3v: tune2fs -L newname /dev/disk/by-partlabel/blah
17:19<at0m>or any other path that gets you to the partition
17:19<mooff>what's more.. guess what character \x2d is
17:19<mooff>.. it's ascii 45 aka the hyphen, -
17:19<tepozoa>mooff: there's a neat command hiding in the background, `udisksctl status` which you might be interested in (just for learning, since we're here)
17:20<Tj>tuxd3v: file-systems mounted under /media/$USER/ are done by udisks2, on demand, or can be manually mounted/unmounted using "udiskctl {mount,unmount} -b /dev/$DEV"
17:20<mooff>neat tepezoa
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17:20<Tj>typo there "udisksctl"
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17:20<tepozoa>(see the man page, it of course can "do stuff" as well)
17:21<mooff>nice quality in a program ,that it can do stuff
17:21<mooff>all the best ones do
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17:21<Sqrt{not}>I don't think there is any systemd configuration to learn here, as has been said, this is created/destroyed by usdisks2
17:22<at0m>mooff: well, "actively changing things" do or "showing things "do" is a subtle but important difference
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17:23<Tj>FYI: networkd has a weird default in IPv6SendRA - EmitDNS=yes,DNS=$address adds option 25 RDNSS to the RA... but the default lifetime is set to 0 so client kernels ignore it! It needs a specific DNSLifetimeSec= >0 in order to work, and this isn't mentioned in the man-page
17:23<mooff>potato, potaato
17:23<gordreturns>Hi. I'm trying to find what the MD5sum of debian-live-10.8.0-amd64-kde.iso was, but I can't even find that download anywhere. All the modern mirrors only show the latest (v11), and the legacy Debian links only show the latest 10.x, that is 10.10
17:23<gordreturns>Any chance of finding that info anywhere?
17:24<mooff>i'd try sticking the filename into Google in quotes ^
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17:25<mooff>do most of the mirrors disable crawling, or did it really disappear from most of the net?
17:26<Tj>gordreturns: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/10.8.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
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17:27<mooff>in-quotes-into-Google found http://debian-iso.mirror.anlx.net/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid (MD5SUMS, MD5SUMS.sign)
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17:28<gordreturns>huh, shoulda used Google instead of DDG. It returns an old mirror that has the info.
17:28<Tj>/archives/ always goes back a long time
17:29<tuxd3v>at0m, many thanks fir the hint, but it still doesn´ t work :/
17:29<tuxd3v>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/2c77a129/
17:29<gordreturns>I'll bookmark that archives link
17:29<mooff>strange that cdimage.debian.org doesn't appear to be indexed
17:29<tuxd3v>can´ t change that label :(
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17:29<Tj>gordreturns: the link to archives is "Older builds" on http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/
17:30<Tj>tuxd3v: that's an ISO9660 -read-only- image
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17:31<tuxd3v>Tj, yeah
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17:33<Tj>tuxd3v: ISO9660 are not designed to be edited. What you're trying to do is alter the Volume ID
17:33<Tj>tuxd3v: xorisso may be able to do it
17:33<tepozoa>I was curious - turns out the internet archive captures the sha/md5sums content but not the ISO files themselves, so that could also work to get the hash https://web.archive.org/web/20210305051011/https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
17:34<tuxd3v>yeah I wanted to change the disk label so that I could make an experiment trying to read its .mount unit file :)
17:34<mooff>https://cdimage.debian.org/robots.txt disallows *.iso$, but doesn't mention /cdimage/archive
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17:36<Tj>tuxd3v: see the -volid option https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/xorriso/xorriso.1.en.html
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17:39<Sqrt{not}>https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/archive/10.8.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/
17:39<Sqrt{not}>gordreturns, ^
17:39<Sqrt{not}>gordreturns, are you looking for the non-free or the free version?
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17:41<gordreturns>Sqrt{not}: it's OK, I just needed the checksum. It confirmed my ISO is corrupted, so now I'm downloading 10.10. I have slow internet so I didnt want to do it if I could.
17:42<gordreturns>It's for throwaway VMs so I didnt care about having the latest version
17:42<tuxd3v>Tj, many thanks
17:43<gordreturns>what % of the Debian userbase do you figure is already on 11?
17:43<tuxd3v>it seems that I can only do that on the iso itself
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17:43<mooff>i think you should probably download 11 if that's what you're asking
17:43*mooff likes it :)
17:44<gordreturns>Nah I can't do that yet, I'm relying on an old library for something, that's no longer in 11
17:44<mooff>fair do's
17:44<sney>end users with modern hardware are probably mainly there, a lot of production services tend to wait for the first point release
17:44<tuxd3v>Tj, xorriso -dev ./name_of_iso.iso -volid 'My_Own_Lable' -commit
17:44<tuxd3v>:)
17:44<tuxd3v>I will try
17:45<tuxd3v>then write the iso to the pendrive... again, and then proceed with my experiment
17:45<tuxd3v>:)
17:45<mooff>the label is probably already sensible, tuxd3v
17:46<tuxd3v>the label has ' ' and '-' on it
17:46<mooff>systemd just mangles it for.. Very Good Reasons, i'm sure
17:46<tuxd3v>and maybe because of that I can´ t see the .mount unit
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17:47<Tj>see "man systemd-escape"
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17:47<mooff>tuxd3v: that's not it. i can see my mount files created by systemd-fstab-generator. see the imgur link above
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17:48<mooff>if there's no comment in blue for your systemctl cat.. i guess it's runtime only
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17:50<mooff>i can't actually find file-less units documented anywhere. the docs say "runtime units" exist in /run/systemd/system, like my fstab mounts do
17:50<mooff>so.. maybe you do have something in /run/systemd/system. did you already say that `ls /run/systemd/system` is empty?
17:50<Tj>in the first few comments tuxd3v made the only thing I could see was spaces in the mountpoint path, which is easily dealt with on command line by surrounding the path with "..." or '...' quote marks
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17:51<mooff>yeah
17:51<xoxje4>i like debian
17:51<mooff>(also, my fstab mounts are in /run/systemd/generator, sorry)
17:51<Tj>you can do things like "systemctl list-units --type mount --state active"
17:53<tuxd3v>this is the output of isoinfo:
17:53<tuxd3v>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/6dcb16c2/
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17:53<tuxd3v>as you can see the debian iso image has a name: 'd-live 11.0.0 ma amd64'
17:56<Tj>You said earlier it mounted to "/media/tuxd3v/d-live 11.0.0 ma amd64" (which we said was done by udisks daemon). so from shell you can access that with "ls -latr '/media/tuxd3v/d-live 11.0.0 ma amd64/' "
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17:56<mooff>i think you should figure how to see the mount file without renaming it :P
17:56<mooff>Tj, they're trying to find the .mount file that udisks created to read it for kicks
17:56<Tj>note I've surrounded the space-containing path with single quote marks
17:56<Tj>udisks doesn't create a .mount file
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17:57<mooff>somehow a mount unit ends up in systemd's control in the end
17:58<mooff>we suggested it might be ephemeral, but the docs suggest it should exist in /run/systemd somewhere
17:58<mooff>should -> should still
17:59<tuxd3v>guys, zorriso did the trick, I think, its however son to celebrate :)
18:00<sussudio>isn't zoriso some kind of spanish ham that smells like dirty socks
18:00<tuxd3v>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/ebacc14e/
18:00<tuxd3v>Volume id: debian11live
18:00<tuxd3v>:)
18:01<tuxd3v>now bunr it to the pendrive :)
18:01<tuxd3v>burn*
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18:02<Tj>the ephemeral .mount unit is created when proc/*/mountinfo shows a new entry. "systemctl status <name>" will show that
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18:03<mooff>precisely sussudio
18:03<mooff>Tj, ah!
18:03<Tj>it's more of an internal systemd housekeeping unit to ensure it knows what is where and can clean up the mountpint later. It creates a slice for handling that
18:03<mooff>does it group mounts from the same volume into one slice?
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18:06<sazamoracl>Hi everyone. Just noticed today this on lspci output, it is ok this order for the gpu module. I mean this 'ideapad*' before intel ?
18:06<sazamoracl>video 53248 2 ideapad_laptop,i915
18:06<sazamoracl>it is a icelake i5 10th gen.
18:06<sazamoracl>thank you.
18:06<Tj>mooff: no, just a generic cleaner: systemctl status 'system-clean\x2dmount\x2dpoint.slice'
18:07<mooff>one per mount, or just one global cleaner?
18:07<Tj>sazamoracl: that isn't lspci output, that is lsmod output (list modules) which shows the module, size, number of references, and other modules depending in it
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18:08<Tj>mooff: as far as I recall 1 slice covers all 'externally controlled' mountpoints
18:08<sazamoracl>right sorry. lsmod, yes, it is ok that this 'ideapad*' it is there before i915 video ?
18:10<sney>it's not really 'before' it's just both
18:10<Tj>sazamoracl: its just a list; order is not significant
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18:11<sazamoracl>ohb ok, got it. Thank you !!
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18:18<tuxd3v>humm, my pendrive now doesn´ t automount :/
18:18<tuxd3v>udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdf1, now returns:
18:19<tuxd3v>Error unmounting /dev/sdf1: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.NotMounted: Device `/dev/sdf1' is not mounted
18:19<tuxd3v>maybe it verifies the checksum of the iso?
18:20<tuxd3v>anyway, this went to far, I am going to format the pendrive, and try to insert it :D
18:21<mooff>i'm gonna tap out and watch something that doesn't involve computers lol
18:21<tuxd3v>:D your idea is the best :)
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18:39<ZenWalker>hi all, in bullseye ext4 is the default on the installer?
18:41<alex11>should be, yes
18:41<sussudio>hasn't it been since like before woody
18:41<alex11>that's pretty well set in stone, ext4 is debian's main filesystem
18:43<ZenWalker>ok thanks, good to know
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18:45<tuxd3v>mooff, Tj, tepozoa, at0m, Sqrt{not}, indeed I can´t access media-tuxd3v-debian11live.mount contents
18:46<tuxd3v>It doesn´ t exist in '/run/systemd'
18:46<mooff>the file exists, and you can't read it?
18:46<tuxd3v>find only finds it in '/sys/fs/cgroup/system.slice/media-tuxd3v-debian11live.mount'
18:47<tuxd3v>as a directory
18:47<mooff>what's the output of systemctl cat debian11live
18:47<tuxd3v>if gives error :D
18:47<tuxd3v>~# systemctl cat media-tuxd3v-debian11live.mount
18:47<tuxd3v>No files found for media-tuxd3v-debian11live.mount.
18:47<ZenWalker>nicks with [m] in its name, here on oftc, are people inside matrix?
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18:48<mooff>yes, ZenWalker
18:48<ZenWalker>ok thx
18:48<mooff>anyone can use the suffix, but almost all are from Matrix. i'm from Matrix without suffix.
18:48<tuxd3v>unbelievable since its suposed to exist in /run/systemd
18:49<tuxd3v>at least for what I have read so far
18:49<mooff>tuxd3v: what about 'systemctl cat \*debian11live\*' ?
18:49<tuxd3v>I am on a doferent matrix :D
18:49<tuxd3v>diferent*
18:50<tuxd3v>~# systemctl cat \*debian11live\*
18:50<tuxd3v>No files found for media-tuxd3v-debian11live.mount.
18:50<tuxd3v>No files found for dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-debian11live.device.
18:50<mooff>ha!
18:51<tuxd3v>so were does this "ephemeral" beings exist? :D
18:51<mooff>you didn't run that from /sys/fs/cgroup/system.slice, did you?
18:51<mooff>(the asterisks didn't get expanded by the shell?)
18:51<ZenWalker>mooff: ok, sadly it was the same behavior on #mobian , but not now
18:51<ZenWalker>https://gitlab.com/mobian1/issues/-/issues/360
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18:53<tuxd3v>mooff, I still need a lot to learn
18:53<tuxd3v>I didn´t understand yet the concept of system.slice
18:53<tuxd3v>what that means
18:53<tuxd3v>I run the command in the shell
18:53<tuxd3v>in the /
18:53<mooff>ZenWalker: did you read Chris Talbot's last message?
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18:56<tuxd3v>however a status on the unit returns ok:
18:56<tuxd3v>https://paste.debian.net/hidden/571eabf7/
18:57<tuxd3v>this concept of hiden functionality, that is nobody knows were is jeopardizing my understanding of systemd :(
18:57<mooff>i don't necessarily love any of the solutions Matrix poses, heh
18:58<mooff>tuxd3v: i think systemd jeopardizes your understanding of systemd
18:58<Sqrt{not}>ZenWalker, you can register in OFTC if you need access to that channel
18:59<Sqrt{not}>tuxd3v, There are probably other things you might spend your energy learning about, with more real-world application.
18:59<mooff>the status quo might be working fine.. i get kicked from any channels with +R over the bridge if i'm not identified
18:59<mooff>which is exactly what would happen if i connected to OFTC directly
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19:03<mooff>i see Matrix like a bouncer, wanting to except users from +R because they have Matrix accounts seems strange
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19:04<Sqrt{not}>mooff, channels with +R require everybody to be registered to join, matrix or not
19:04<mooff>exactly
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19:05<mooff>the issue ZenWalker sees might be that the Matrix bridge restarted at some point..
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19:05<mooff>users without auto ident can't rejoin without manual intervention
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19:07<mooff>at one point, the Matrix bridge only supported SASL passwords for auto ident
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19:07<mooff>which OFTC does not. now, the help for !storepass says "Store a NickServ pass OR SASL pass.."
19:08<mooff>i think Matrix might have expected SASL passwords to function like identifying to NickServ...
19:09<mooff>if that is still the case.. well, OFTC should probably support it
19:09<mooff>either way, Matrix users you can't see likely really aren't there, ZenWalker
19:10<sarnold>some day oftc will replace the ircd and services with solanum
19:10<sarnold>we'll get the newer auth methods when we do
19:10<mooff>cool
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20:08<Roranicus>Hey. I had a pihole, but I want to get rid of it (more trouble than it's worth). I can't seem to get my system to use my default DNS though. How do I reconfigure DNS settings back to default?
20:10<sarnold>probably that's editing /etc/resolv.conf to change your pihole IP to whatever it is you want to do DNS for your now
20:10<sarnold>there's a few other ways the pihole could be set up (eg getting your dhcp server to give out the address in dhcp options) but you'd probably remember doing those steps if you had taken them
20:11<Roranicus>right now, it's 127.0.0.53
20:11<sarnold>that's probably using systemd-resolved then
20:11<Roranicus>ok, so what do I need to do?
20:13<Roranicus>Basically, I want the system back to whatever it is when you plug in your router for the first time.
20:14<sarnold>I'm less sure there.. try looking in network manager's configuration dialog boxes, and see if you've put in the pihole address as a dns server in there
20:14<Roranicus>I have not
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20:15<sarnold>:(
20:16<Roranicus>basically, right now, unless I'm connected to a vpn or have the pihole, no dns
20:16<raven523>edit /etc/systemd/resolve.conf?
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20:16<Roranicus>what would I put in it though?
20:17<Roranicus>https://paste.debian.net/1209853/ this is what I have right now
20:17<raven523>set the FallbackDNS option, then systemctl restart systemd-resolved
20:18<raven523>that is /etc/resolv.conf. I was talking about /etc/systemd/resolved.conf
20:18<Roranicus>everything is commented out in that file
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20:20<raven523>uncomment FallbackDNS then set it to a space-separated list of DNS servers to use
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20:22<Roranicus>Didn't work. No change
20:22<mooff>might have to: systemctl restart systemd-resolved
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20:23<sarnold>hrmph, the manpage doesn't say how to reparse the file :(
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20:24<Roranicus_>Didn't work :(
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20:24<Roranicus_>There's no way to just let the system configured itself the way it normally would on first install?
20:24<mooff>are you certain the pihole dns isn't set on your network-manager connection?
20:25<mason>sarnold: systemctl daemon-reload ?
20:25<sarnold>mason: that's what I'm wondering..
20:25<mason>That should work for ~everything
20:25<Roranicus_>How would I check that?
20:25<mason>Just run it and try a service reload.
20:25<mason>and then*
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20:27<mooff>if still no joy, run nm-connection-editor, choose your connection to edit in the GUI, double check IPv6 and IPv6 tabs
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20:28<mooff>uhh IPv4 and IPv6 tabs
20:28<Roranicus_>ipv4 and ipv6 tabs are empty. deamon-reload didn't work
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20:30<mooff>what does 'resolvectl status' say
20:31<ZenWalker>yes, probably the +s channel mode helps to avoid samppers
20:31<mason>Roranicus_: FWIW, you can go back to ifupdown and defenestrate resolved if you decide you want to.
20:31<blast007>Roranicus_: are you using DHCP? if so, what is your DHCP server providing as DNS servers?
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20:34<mooff>lol mason
20:35<mooff>great word
20:35<mason>http://www.freedictionary.org/?Query=defenestration
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20:37<mooff>(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 🪟
20:37<Roranicus>Oh, I'm dumb, I had it set up on the router level.
20:37<Roranicus>This is why I shouldn't troubleshoot shit on a work day. Disregard me, I'm an idiot :p
20:38<mason>Roranicus: Mm, I wait until a weekend, and then make sure I'm not doing it on the last day of said weekend.
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20:57<tuxd3v>is resolvd already active in debian 11?
20:59<mason>Not on my systems. =cough=
20:59<tuxd3v>using 'resolvectl status' I get: Failed to get global data: Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service not found.
20:59<sney>the service is included in the systemd package, but it is not on by default, same with the other systemd networking tools
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21:01<tuxd3v>yeah I tried resolvectl query google.com, and it fails..
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21:01<sney>'systemctl status systemd-resolved'
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21:01<mooff>strange, it's running on my desktop, and i remember having to hit it with hard things in containers
21:02<tuxd3v>its dead jimmy
21:02<sney>there are probably some metapackages with things that would turn it on in postinst
21:02<sney>but it's not a given on any bullseye system
21:02<ansgar>mooff: Then you probably configured it to start.
21:02<mooff>cool. also not seeing it in a new container there
21:03<mooff>anything is possible, ansgar
21:03<tuxd3v>nss-resolve? :)
21:03<tuxd3v>man systemd-resolved.service
21:04<tuxd3v>for what I understand this is activated, or should be by dbus right?
21:05<sney>it's not sane for a dns service to be automatically activated if a dbus query pokes it
21:05<mooff>this is my resolv.conf - the 1.1.1.1 line suggests i worked around systemd-resolved, rather than choosing it
21:05<sney>it's disabled, it stays disabled, unless you explicitly enable it
21:05<mooff>https://paste.debian.net/1209856/
21:06<imMute>sney: "automatically activating if something poikes it" is the entire point of socket activation
21:06<sney>then you should go back and read the other words in the sentence
21:06<tuxd3v>127.0.0.53 is the systemd-resolved stub resolver.
21:06<tuxd3v>ho..
21:07<tuxd3v>so its network based..
21:08<tuxd3v>nyway the service file states:
21:08<tuxd3v>systemctl status systemd-resolved
21:08<tuxd3v>Alias=dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service
21:08<tuxd3v>^ ^
21:08<sney>tuxd3v: name resolution services need to be able to respond to dns queries, e.g. with nslookup, otherwise they aren't worth much
21:09<sney>resolvectl will talk to it over dbus when it's active, but anything else will treat it as if it were dnsmasq or bind etc
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21:09<mooff>systemctl status - "vendor preset: enabled"
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21:11<mooff>what follows "vendor preset:" for you folks
21:12<sney>it says 'enabled' on 2 bullseye machines here, both upgraded from buster, and the service itself is not enabled and never has been
21:12<tuxd3v>Before=network.target nss-lookup.target shutdown.target
21:12<tuxd3v>really before shutdown?
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21:13<tuxd3v>does it is really necessary?
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21:16<tuxd3v>virtually any service that is suposed to be up while the machine is running, its before shutdown..
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21:17<sney>tuxd3v: have you read lennart poettering's systemd for administrators blog series? lots of good info there. here are the first 8 entries, http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-ebook-psankar.pdf
21:17<sney>for the rest you would have to search his blog, it's not super organized but there are about 20 articles in total.
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21:22<tuxd3v>sney, many thanks
21:22<tuxd3v>I am looking at it
21:22<tuxd3v>I believe Before= means the service will meed to be running before something.
21:23<tuxd3v>will need*
21:23<sney>there is probably a special hook for shutdown.target, where it also means that service needs to shut down at a particular time
21:23<sney>I haven't looked closely at that part though.
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23:04<FH_thecat>after I build a package using "dpkg-buildpackage"
23:05<FH_thecat>how can I clean the build files in the directory, so that I can build again ?
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23:29<dan1>hello after the upgrade to bullseye many programs changed their usual behavior and I'm getting used to it... except for one thing
23:30<dan1>on buster, system clipboard was shared by the terminal, now the two clipboards are separated
23:30<dan1>how can I change this?
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23:41<thelounge29>What will happen if I delete /usr/share/bug?
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23:42<sussudio>dan1: https://old.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/lcga1w/debian_testing_clipboard_doesnt_work_half_the_time/
23:42<sussudio>thelounge29: a leprechaun will appear and urinate in your coffee cup.
23:43<sney>thelounge29: it will likely break reportbug and/or apt-listbugs, maybe some other stuff. why do you want to delete it? it's only 2.7M here
23:44<dan1>sussudio: you are pointing me to the response suggesting to use autocutsel to synchronize clipboards?
23:44<thelounge29>sussudio, sney: well, then I will delete it. I'm shrinking a rootfs used for kata-container(which is, actually, a VM)
23:44<sussudio>dan1: if that fixes it, yes.
23:44<thelounge29>And normally nobody would touch the VM. Only containers will run inside
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23:45<thelounge29>In fact, I even would like to remove apt. But it seems a lot of work to do lol
23:46<sussudio>thelounge29: have you already purged the non-english locales
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23:46<thelounge29>sussudio: yeah. already done that
23:47<sussudio>thelounge29: and the old kernels
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23:48<thelounge29>sussudio: kernel is kept outside of the rootfs. I built the rootfs by debootstrap
23:48<thelounge29>sussudio: and boot by qemu -kernel vmlinuxbalabla
23:50<sussudio>thelounge29: already using busybox instead of other things
23:52<thelounge29>sussudio: haven't done that. But that's surely the way to go. Before that, I need to figure out if some programs will run with busybox.
23:52<dan1>sussudio: didn't work, and having to install a program only to do that seems too excessive
23:52<dan1>sussudio: just out of curiosity, what should the default behavior be?
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23:53<dan1>sussudio: I mean, separated clipboards or not?
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23:54<thelounge29>sussudio: BTW, is there a magic command to replace everything with busybox?
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23:55<sussudio>thelounge29: *shrug*
23:56<dan1>sussudio: btw sorry for the "too excessive", that typo is painful to read
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23:58<sussudio>dan1: no idea, i just googled it.
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23:59<thelounge29>sussudio: typical response one will get from irc
23:59<thelounge29>google and first result
23:59<dan1>the redditor who made that thread had a different issue actually
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