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00:20<libsys>people, where can I get the source of the daily builds of debian?
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00:23<danielssan>libsys: which daily builds are you talking about?
00:24<libsys>of the netinstall images on this particular case
00:25<danielssan>the source for those images are plastered on salsa.debian.org as it's just a combination of certain packages, for example debian-installer is at https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debian-installer
00:26<somiaj>libsys: what is the use case for wanting the daily builds, are you wanting to submit patches to the installer?
00:27<libsys>danielssan: yes, I know, but I'd like to see the actual recipies for that builds
00:27<libsys>somiaj: no, I just want to create a sighly modified build
00:27<somiaj>In what sense, would debootstrap style install be useful in this case?
00:28<somiaj>Note, I don't know the details of how the installer is built, so can't really help there, though sometimes if you state your actual goal, you may find other options you haven't considered
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00:29<libsys>I need to patch the uboot image of the netinstall disk
00:29<somiaj>Note there is #debian-boot and #debian-installer
00:31<libsys>thanks
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02:06<r4fkramer>Hi all, I have created a 8 or 9 GB Swap file in this debian installation. But, recently I've been checking this output: https://paste.debian.net/1214071/
02:06<r4fkramer>Please, how to fix this issue /;=
02:09<mjt>which issue is that?
02:10<mjt>I don't see any issue in that paste
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02:12<raven523>your swapfile wasn't activated
02:13<raven523>did you create an entry for it in /etc/fstab?
02:15<r4fkramer>Thank you for answering, raven523. I think it exists in /etc/fstab
02:15<r4fkramer>UUID=ac3d7dfd-35b7-480f-b8b9-f9fd0bc1ae14 none swap sw 0 0
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02:16<r4fkramer>A previous line: # swap was on /dev/sda4 during installation
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02:17<mjt>journalctl -b0 | grep swap should give you some clues
02:17<mjt>if you created a swap FILE, the system wont find it by UUID
02:19<r4fkramer>mjt, I checked the output of this command given: there are tons of information over there. I didn't created it myself or manually. I specified 8 gb for swap partition, but during the installation
02:20<r4fkramer>https://paste.debian.net/1214072/
02:20<raven523>replace UUID=... with the path to the swap file
02:21<raven523>assuming that it is a file and nto a partition
02:22<r4fkramer>Ok raven523, I think I've done it before, but honestly, I don't remember how to do it again
02:23<r4fkramer>Through 'gparted' interface, I see swap partition (9,59 GB size).
02:23<mjt>you don't remember how to edit a file?
02:23<raven523>what is the UUID on that partition (not the PARTUUID)? blkid should show it
02:24<mjt>what does journalctl -b0 | grep swap shows?
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02:25<mjt>(we can try various things ad infinitum but without actual understanding what's happening it can be very very long list)
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02:25<r4fkramer>I see mjt
02:25<mjt>also ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ac3d7dfd-35b7-480f-b8b9-f9fd0bc1ae14
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02:26<r4fkramer>raven523 - /dev/sda4: UUID="686d01e7-fdfd-4343-83bd-3779c2175fa7" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="f0e511d5-04"
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02:26<raven523>you have the wrong UUID in fstab. Use the one for /dev/sda4 for swap
02:27<mjt>yeah
02:27<mjt>we fixed it from the back :))
02:27<mjt>or found :)
02:27<r4fkramer>mjt from the back ?
02:28<r4fkramer>You mean: some minutes ago here ?
02:28<mjt>by guessing and trying things
02:28<mjt>instead of looking for the actual cause :)
02:29<r4fkramer>Honestly I don't understand why it has happened, for this debian installation was running fine
02:29<mjt>look at the logs :)
02:29<r4fkramer>It's been running ok during years, before this happening
02:30<raven523>did you move or resize the swap partition recently?
02:30<r4fkramer>no raven523
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02:31<r4fkramer>mjt, I look at it; but, first of all, I need to understand it. I don't want to make you and raven423 tired. Please, suggest me any documentation or good article about swap - I must learn it.
02:32<r4fkramer>raven523
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02:32<r4fkramer>By the way: Raven - Rock until You Drop, 1981 is really a good album
02:32<mjt>ah.. you pasted the journalctl | grep swap. I missed it
02:33<r4fkramer>mjt, what did you think about this output ?
02:33<mjt>you don't need any articles about swap at this stage (unless you're really interested in how it works)
02:34<r4fkramer>Fine. In fact, my priority now is to fix it as fast as possible
02:34<mjt>it tells you that it can't activate dev-disk-by\x2duuid-ac3d7dfd\x2d35b7\x2d480f\x2db8b9\x2df9fd0bc1ae14
02:35<r4fkramer>Ok, and then ?
02:35<mjt>which is a sytemd's version of /dev/disk/by-duuid/ac3d7dfd-35b7-480f-b8b9-f9fd0bc1ae14
02:35<mjt>translated to human language it can't find the device with this UUID
02:35<mjt>and waiting for it failed too
02:37<r4fkramer>I have two partitions here: one is ext4 for Kali Linux and swap partition for this OS is /dev/sda5 - 2.79 GB
02:37<r4fkramer>The other is for debian
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02:37<mjt>btw, you don't really need two swaps for them, they can use one swap - UNLESS you want to run them both at the same time
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02:38<mjt>(swap is used only when the system is running, it is like RAM extension)
02:38<mjt>um.. or unless it is hybernating!
02:39<r4fkramer>Yes, mjt, I can only use 2.79 GB swap file, created during KALI installation - also for debian, right ?
02:39<mjt>it's partition not file ;)
02:40<mjt>by using word "file" in this context you're confusing people, "file" here usually means a regular file in a filesystem, not a partition
02:41<r4fkramer>I meant: partition not file, sorry
02:41<r4fkramer>I have two swap partitions here: can I simply delete one of them ?
02:41<mjt>btw, what does ' cat /dev/sda4 | file - ' say?
02:42<r4fkramer>https://paste.debian.net/1214075/
02:43<mjt>heh
02:43<mjt>you forgot the last "-"
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02:44<r4fkramer>mjt, I need to leave chat now - busy here. I'll read all of your instrcutions and raven523 to be able to understand a little bit better what is happening and how to proceed.
02:44<r4fkramer>Unfortunately, I can't continue here any longer.
02:45<r4fkramer>Thank you very much for attention and Great Support :)
02:45<r4fkramer>See You :)
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03:29<oty>Hey - already had an excellent answer yesterday, still fishing for another one ! Is there a way, after a apt update, to know "what's the oldest package update in the list I didn't do ?". The basic idea behind it is to set up an alert to say "some package update was available since 105 day and still not done, wtf" :D
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03:37<somiaj>why are you not updating everything when the update is available?
03:38<mjt>oty: what was the yesterday's answer? apt/dpkg status files does not reflect package age, one have to go to look up dates of the package files..
03:39<somiaj>and what is the use case? Why are you not updating packages? What version of debian are you running?
03:39<oty>That's basically a warning script I want to install for "normal users" who would have auto-upgrade enabled. But sometimes apt breaks and updates are not made for years. Seen it a couple of time.
03:39<oty>wanted to make some kind of warning for that.
03:40<somiaj>what? When does apt break and not update things for years?
03:40<somiaj>This doesn't sound like debian stable to me
03:40<oty>you know. Broken package. Interrupted install.
03:40<oty>The latter mostly
03:40<mjt>that makes sense
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03:41<mjt>tho, I guess it might be more productive to warn about apt upgrade *errors*
03:41<oty>mjt, yesterday was another one about releases eol ;)
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03:42<oty>yeah, I guess so !
03:42<somiaj>Sounds like there is some other underlying issues if it is common to have inerrupted installs that are not caught the very next time the system is updated/upgraded
03:42<mjt>ie, not installing something for years is a sympthom, not a cause, -- why not address it where it actually happens?
03:42<mjt>yeah somiaj
03:43<somiaj>And I don't see how the age of the package matter here, if a user runs apt update, and there are packages to upgrade, they should upgrade them, and if they fail to upgrade that should be addressed (though in debian stable this shouldn't be happeneing)
03:43<oty>well, I don't know how I would do that
03:43<somiaj>and since this is a debian stable channel, we assume users are running that
03:43<oty>yep, and they are
03:43<mjt>somiaj: it actually happens in stable too. And sometimes - rarely - for the next point release one even have to run dist-upgrade
03:44<oty>and it's not "common"
03:44<oty>it happens sometimes.
03:44<somiaj>though with apt using aptitudes upgrade methods, rarely do you need dist-upgrade for new kernels
03:45<somiaj>Personally I woudln't worry about package age here, though if you wanted, apt now regurally runs 'apt-get update' to keep the package list up to date (think it is default now, but you can configure it), use some tool or warning that lets user know there are packages to upgrade.
03:46<somiaj>You could also list the packages that are upgraded, maybe save that list, with a date if you really want to go that route
03:46<somiaj>but in general the date of the package doesn't matter much to apt, so not info I think that comes inside the apt database
03:46<oty>I feel it'd be weird to warn "there is new package available for upgrade" while the upgrade is automatic... When it works.
03:47<mjt>you can do it after actual auto-upgrade completed
03:47<somiaj>so you are usining unattened-upgrades, wonder if there is a way to configure it to warn if it fails
03:47<oty>... That sounds about right
03:48<somiaj>so, send an email, or a login message or something, 'waring, auto upgrade didn't fully upgrade your system. Please manually upgrade it."
03:49<somiaj>well unattended-upgrades logs everything in /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades.log, wonder if you can just parse that for if there is a failure of some such
03:50<mjt>I still think it's better to go after an exit code or something like
03:50<somiaj>you can also configure unattended-upgrades to send an email
03:51<danielssan>hm, there is a setting for // Send email to this address for problems or packages upgrades
03:51<danielssan>so i guess that's the easiest way
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03:52<oty>Yes, I guess it is. Mhm. Okay !
03:53<somiaj>yea the unattended-upgrade logs also contains dates
03:53<somiaj>note you do need an mta of some sort to send emails, so depending on the system that may not be that useful, but if you are the admin, you can just have it email you if there are problems, then you can contact the user
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03:55<mjt>when systemd fails to mount /var, will it spawn sshd?
03:56<somiaj>usually fail to mount is considered grave enough it drops you into initramfs
03:56<mjt>heh
03:56<mjt>this has nothing to do with initrfamfs
03:56<somiaj>but that is often where the mounts occur
03:57<mjt>mounts for / and /usr (if separate) - yes. but not for /var /home ec
03:57<mjt>etc*
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03:58<somiaj>ahh I thought by default systemd considered any failed mount grave unless configured not to
03:58<mjt>initramfs has been created to find and mount your root filesystem
03:58<mjt>um
03:58<mjt>what is "grave"?
03:59<somiaj>as in systemd drops you into some emergency/recovery shell, might not be initramfs though
04:00<somiaj>though can't find this on google, I just recall some user here having an issue with this when some mount failed, and there is an option you can provide the mount to tell systemd it is okay to continue if it fails
04:00<mjt>it just fails this particular unit, and all the units depending on it. /var is definitely not essential so an emergency shell is needed
04:00<mjt>but ok
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04:00<mjt>there's no way to tell systemd that a failed unit is okay ;)
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04:01<mjt>(or maybe I didn't find one.. still it is *far* from my question :)) )
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04:02<somiaj>I might be mistake, I thought systemd wasn't happy if mounts failed.
04:02<mjt>systemd can't be happy ;)))
04:03<somiaj>is this mount listed in fstab?
04:04<mjt>no, really, it doesn't work like this. There are systemd units (and targets) and their dependencies, that's all. If a dependency fails, another unit which is declared as depending on the failing one cant start.
04:05<somiaj>"If you search through the unit files, there are only a very few ways for the boot to fall back to emergency.target. It's usually when a .mount unit for a local filesystem fails, causing local-fs.target to fail."
04:05<mjt>on failure a unit can fire another unit
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04:05<mjt>yeah
04:05<somiaj>so if /var fails to mount, you get pushed into emergency.target which I don't think starts ssh
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04:06<mjt>let's see, it's definitely easier to do that and look what will happen
04:06<somiaj>now there was some option (still looking it up) you can add to the mount in fstab to let systemd know it is okay to not drop into emergency.target if it fails
04:08<somiaj>note this is only something I recall some user having an issue with a while ago, my memory may not be the best, but the internt seems to agre with me that if a local mount fails, you are dropped into an emergency shell via emergency.target
04:09<mjt>it is waiting for the /var device to appear, for 1.5 minutes, and tries to start emergency shell
04:09<mjt>and does not start sshd
04:09<somiaj>is this mount defined in fstab, or have you written a mount unit for it
04:09<mjt>(and the emergency shell is failing in this case, looping with "Login incorrect" message)
04:10<mjt>fstab
04:10<somiaj>I recall there is some option you can add to the mount to disable this behavior for that mount, but I'm having trouble finding it
04:10<mjt>in fstab one can add nofail option
04:11<somiaj>so if you add that does it continue if /var fails to mount (though I'm sure other services may get upset when they can't find their logfile directory)
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04:12<somiaj>I think nofail is something else, I think it is systemd.fooo but forget what the foo is
04:12<mjt>it is in fstab in filesystem options (4th column)
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04:13<somiaj>yea, nofail is listed in the man mount page, it is about reporting errors, which I think is not the same as what systemd is doing, though maybe systemd uses that option, trying to track down the page I found a while ago
04:13<mjt>systemd uses that option
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04:15<somiaj>okay, yea found that in systemd.mount
04:15<somiaj>also seeing some x-systemd.options, which seem more what I rember, but my memeory is faulty
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04:20<mjt>it's fun how many units fail without /var ;)
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04:29<somiaj>yea, I suspect they get worried they can't find their log files
04:29<somiaj>you could probably limp them along by having /var/log and a few other dircotries there if the mount fails
04:30<mjt>heh. I just wanted to know what will be if fail to move /var properly on a remote machine
04:31<mjt>will I be able to fix it by ssh'ing in
04:31<mjt>added nofail just as a safety measure
04:35<mjt>actually it's a good thing to have here all the time - it's better to be able to fix things remotely than to go onsite, it doesn't have remote console
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04:44<somiaj>I wonder if it is possible to add networking and sshd to the emergency.target as an alternative method
04:44<somiaj>which might be slighly preferable because then you wouldn't have tons of units failing, but be in a situation you can recover remotely
04:45<mjt>I don't care about other units at this stage
04:45<mjt>but it's an interesting idea
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04:46<somiaj>oh looks like sshd.service depends on local-fs.target, so that won't work if local-fs.target fails
04:47<mjt>on bullseye it's not anymore
04:47<mjt>that's exactly why I asked, I know this dependency existed in buster
04:48<somiaj>oh nice, well looks like sshd hasn't been added to emergency.target by default, but if it is possible to add it, then it would try to run it for any local-fs mount fails
04:50<mjt>so Im guessing i need to mkdir /etc/systemd/system/emergency.target.wants/ and symlink sshd.service to there.. :)
04:50<mjt>systemctl add-wants does that
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04:54<mjt>..and nope, it doesn't work like this ;)
04:54<mjt>b/c sshd.service wants networking which wants local-fs
04:54<somiaj>ahh so local-fs is down the chain
04:55<mjt>I think it can be avoided
04:55<ansgar>mjt: ssh.service has no dependency on network.target?
04:55<mjt>fter=network.target auditd.service
04:55<mjt>After=network.target auditd.service
04:56<mjt>my test system does not want to spawn emergency shell so I can't see what's going on
04:56<mjt>it'd be interesting to find out why and fix it
04:57<ansgar>mjt: Which does nothing if you don't start network.target at the same time as ssh.service.
04:57<mjt>well, that's just my guess - ssh doesn't start, and I don't know actual reason
04:57<mjt>neither can I log in (in emergency mode either) to see
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04:58<mjt>it is looping with "Login incorrect" message
04:58<scorpion2185[m]>is this corrrect OnlyShowIn=openbox; ? for autostart file I m not sure about openbox name
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04:59<Tj>earlier talk about /var/ not being essential; it is
04:59<mjt>heh
04:59<Tj>see e.g. " grep -rn 'RequiresMountsFor=/var' /usr/lib/systemd/system "
04:59<mjt>define "essential" :)
05:00<Tj>random seed, utmp, journald, apparmor
05:00<mjt>Tj: you're out of context here :)
05:01<mjt>Tj: I only wanted to know if I will be able to log in remotely if the remote system is unable to mount /var. I answered this. I don't care about other services, I only need sshd to work, and it works if I declare /var to be "non-essential"
05:02<Tj>mjt: I see that, but I think you're going about it the wrong way; as in using a sledgehammer to crack the nut.
05:02<mjt>Tj: so it is definitely not essential for my particular needs
05:02<mjt>it's just a safety net
05:02<Tj>mjt: here, we install dropbear-initramfs for example
05:02<mjt>gosh
05:02<mjt>it wont help
05:03<mjt>because /var is not mounted in initramfs
05:03<Tj>that's totally indepependent of openssh-server's requirements, but ensures an sshd can start, and early
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05:03<mjt>we're going on in cicrles - i already explained it
05:03<mjt>btw, I use my own initramfs
05:03<Tj>we have it so dropbear only stops when ssh can start
05:03<mjt>it optionally includes dropbear
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05:04<Tj>so there's always an sshd available
05:04<mjt>in this case I never enabled it
05:04<mjt>i needed very small safety measure for a very small task (namely moving /var into a different place) that's all :)
05:05<Tj>I'd think local login might even fail without a separate /var/ file-system mounted, due to utmp and random-seed
05:05<mjt>it doesnt
05:06<mjt>it's more: our root HOME is /var/root, and it works without /var mounted
05:06<mjt>(it complains that it can't find $HOME and logs in with HOME=/
05:06<mjt>)
05:07<mjt>and I created my own initramfs exactly because debian's one is mostly useless for repairing root fs failures
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05:07<mjt>(and is huge and requires lots of time to generate and load)
05:08<Tj>login will refuse to allow log-in if $HOME is missing, unless DEFAULT_HOME=yes
05:08<Tj>so presumably you're using that
05:09<mjt>I didn't change anything there
05:09<mjt>it's enabled by default in login.defs
05:09<Tj>ahh, Debian changed the default
05:09<mjt>and I can say it worked this way 15 years ago :)
05:10<Tj>I've carried my own patches for initramfs-tools for the last ~8 years; reduces initrd.img sizes down to ~10MiB
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05:11<mjt>-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5400252 Sep 30 16:42 /boot/initrd-5.10.0-8-amd64
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05:12<mjt>for debian's initramfs, I really fail to see why in order to reduce sice they pushed TWO libcs there.. :)
05:12<Tj>I'm on about using the regular initramfs-tools generation. MODULES=dep,PRUNE=true (I added the PRUNE option)
05:13<Tj>For many systems an initrd isn't even required
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05:13<mjt>you have to load filesystem modules and ahci/sd_block
05:14<mjt>this can be compiled into the kernel but that'll require custom kernel
05:14<mjt>so it is definitely easier to have initramfs
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05:15<Tj>that's what we do; using upstream kernel builds
05:16<mjt>I've been doing that for about 10 years and finally become too lazy :)
05:17<mjt>rw-r--r-- 1 mjt mjt 722 Feb 27 2017 kernel-4.4_4.4.52.dsc
05:17<mjt>my last kernel build :)
05:17<Tj>when you're working with known hardware there is no need to build all the modules, so a single kernel with few loadable modules (maybe for thing like USB devices you expect) but we also disable dynamically loading modules after boot
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05:19<Tj>now most of our focus is on containers so very few 'systems' actually have their own kernel
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05:20<mjt>we use lots'a containers too - either nspawn or qemu's kvm. for the latter they load kernel externally on qemu cmdline
05:20<mjt>so don't even _have_ modules
05:20<Tj>same here, nspawn only
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05:27<mjt>so.. how to debug an emergency mode failure, any pointers?
05:28<mjt>instead of dropping into a shell (actually asking for a passwd or Ctrl+D to continue) it is looping with "Login incorrect" message
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05:29<mjt>I can start /lib/systemd/systemd-sulogin-shell emergency and it works as expected
05:30<mjt>mm.. it seems theres's a getty started together with sulogin-shell :)
05:32<mjt>I can hit Enter and I actually see the systemd-sulogin-shell prompt scrolling by quickly
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05:33<mjt>found it. It happens when you add console=ttyS0 console=tty1 to the kernel command line
05:33<mjt>removing console= fixes it, but makes ttyS0 unusable as a console
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05:44<Tj>yeah; last consols= is the input console
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05:58<mjt>Tj: I know it is.. the question is how to fix that loop ;))
05:59<mjt>(I used ttyS0 to capture kernel output; tty1 is the normal console as usual)
06:00<Tj>mjt: I'm 'thinking' :P
06:00<mjt>anyway, this is just a test machine
06:01<mjt>tho I do have the same settings on that box where I moved /var, also for logging purposes - now with actual serial hw and actual serial cable
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06:01<Tj>mjt: slightly distracted; jut had to rush out and transport a couple of paramedics. Air ambulance landed in one of our fields, with gates locked, so had to go unlock and drive across the field to offer transport to save them walking 1/2 mile
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06:02<Tj>mjt: you're testing with a VM image?
06:02<mjt>yes
06:02<mjt>it doesn't matter really. not for now :)
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06:25<yinxiuqu>is any free proxy tools can use in debian? I come from china
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06:30<mjt>what do you mean by free proxy tools?
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06:32<mjt>you can use proxies (http, socks, ...) in debian for sure. there are no tools required for that, and many software packages which exists in debian support these proxy settings. Debian does not come with a list of free proxies which you can actually use, for obvious reasons.
06:32<yinxiuqu>I can not visit some site in usa
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06:33<mjt>an http or socks proxy service isn't operating system specific, one can use it from any OS which supports networking and a proxy
06:34<mjt>there's no tool on the system itself which you can use, you need an _external_ proxy service which you point your browser to
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06:35<mjt>maybe there are tools you install and run locally that help you find these proxies, I dunno
06:38<mjt>well, there's always tor :)
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06:38<mjt>I dunno if it works in CN
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07:00<cOOl>some here can help me about kernel compiling?
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07:01<crivrc>hello, in debian bullseye the xfce calendar that I used to use, orage has been removed. Does anyone have a suggestion for a replacement? thank!
07:02<cOOl>i cant find how to set the proper arch ending when i compile a kernel i always get 'linux-image-5.14.9 instead of linux-image-5.14.9-amd64
07:02<crivrc>I mean, I could use the gnome calendar, but wanted to know if there is a more specific xfce one.
07:02<crivrc>I can't seem to find one.
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07:11<mjt>crivrc: you can see it on their own site, xfce.org
07:11<crivrc>thx mjt
07:12<mjt>crivrc: for one, on their projects page - https://www.xfce.org/projects - there's no mention of calendar
07:13<mjt>and there's no calendar on their download page either
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07:15<crivrc>I compiled from source, using: ./configure --disable-libxfce4panel --disable-libical
07:15<crivrc>it worked!
07:15<crivrc>orage source, that is.
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07:16<crivrc>for now is good, the good thing is that they use .ics files so I could easily move to a new application.
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07:37<stephen>Hi, is there anyone?
07:39<bremner>!ask
07:39<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
07:44<stephen>Well, I've just installed debian on my old computer which has Nvidia graphic card, I just want to ask what I should do to install Nvidia proprietary driver? I have no idea about it.
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07:50<stephen>I've found an offical document and it said:Add "contrib" and "non-free" components to /etc/apt/sources.list, for example:
07:50<stephen># Debian Sid
07:50<stephen>deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free
07:50<stephen>but bash said "deb command not found"
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07:51<stephen>how could I do?
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07:51<yinxiuqu>mjt, thank you. I'll try tor
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07:52<another>stephen: what was the instruction?
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07:53<stephen>https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?action=show&redirect=NVIDIA
07:54<another>Not where but what. You just wrote it: Add [...] to /etc/apt/sources.list
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07:57<stephen>oh! I got it
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08:44<dreamer>hmm, only now noticed that since the upgrade to bullseye pcmanfm is no longer showing usb drives. any idea what I need to change to enable this?
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11:40<koakuma>holis
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11:41<koakuma>hablen carajo
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11:55<kali_>I want to encrypt my payload, how can I do that?
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11:56<cowboypenguin>What is a payload?
11:56<kali_>Virus to hack devices
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11:57<cowboypenguin>Hmm that is beyond my knowledge, but good luck!
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13:36<realroot>anyone use some obmenu app replacement?
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13:48<libsys>hello people.. I'm trying to setup a fresh debian arm with btrfs on a OLinuXino Lime 2 (an A20 based SBC)... I'm using a sightly modified netinstall image on a SD card (i'm editing uboot because of a bug and hard patching it with dd)
13:48<libsys>I have a working system when I install with ext2 partitions, but when I try to use ext2 for /boot and BTRFS for / it doesn't boot
13:48<libsys>I only see a _ blinking in the screen after the uboot screen
13:48<libsys>IDK what could be happening, but certainly has something to do with the BTRFS loading... I have access to all the files of the system through de SD card
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13:49<libsys>hello people.. I'm trying to setup a fresh debian arm with btrfs on a OLinuXino Lime 2 (an A20 based SBC)... I'm using a sightly modified netinstall image on a SD card (i'm editing uboot because of a bug and hard patching it with dd)
13:49<libsys>I have a working system when I install with ext2 partitions, but when I try to use ext2 for /boot and BTRFS for / it doesn't boot. I only see a _ blinking in the screen after the uboot screen
13:50<libsys>IDK what could be happening, but certainly has something to do with the BTRFS loading... I have access to all the files of the system through de SD card. What could I do to solve this? or to identify the problem
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13:51<orma>how to read the info documentation? When I use info, it says command not found?
13:52<grawity>install the command then
13:52<libsys>orma: apt install info
13:52<orma>oh, right. Thanks
13:53<grawity>though I've heard the official 'info' reader is not a very good one, I think there was a pinfo or yinfo or something like that that people recommended
13:53<grawity>gnome has a graphical 'yelp'
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13:54<grawity>often, finding an html version is best
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13:56<orma>thanks
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14:21<drm>I am trying to install debian 11 via the netinst iso. The iso is missing the firmware for the wifi, which I have downloaded from here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/bullseye/20210814/ The iso is read only, so I have copied all of its files to my local file system, and then extracted the firmware.tar.gz from the link above into the /firmware directory Now I am trying to turn those files back into an iso,
14:21<drm>using `genisoimage -o ./deb-11-with-firmware.iso ~/newisofiles` However, the `genisoimage` command is replacing periods with underscores for the hidden files and folders, and the resulting iso is not bootable. Does anyone know how to address this?
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14:21<sney>drm: the easier method is with the firmware iso,
14:21<sney>!firmware image
14:21<dpkg>There are <live> system and <netinst> and DVD images containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages available from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ The images are "unofficial" because "official Debian" includes only 100% free software, but otherwise identical to the normal installer images and prepared by the same Debian Developers. See <check iso>, <old firmware images>.
14:22<drm>@sney, awesome, thankyou
14:23<sney>np
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14:56<cOOl>hello, someone here can help me about kernel compiling?
14:56<gothenbu1g>probably but not me
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14:57<cOOl>lol
14:57<cOOl>i cant find how to set the proper arch ending when i compile a kernel i always get 'linux-image-5.14.9 instead of linux-image-5.14.9-amd64
14:59<cOOl>in the final .deb it results always in linux-image-5.14.8_5.14.8-1_amd64.deb instead of linux-image-5.14.8-amd64_5.14.8-1_amd64.deb
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15:01<cOOl>that when i compile the linux-source from kernel.org i found somewhere a package that was called linux_5.14.6-3.debian.tar.xz with that it worked well.. but not with the linux_5.14.9.tar.xz package from kernel.org.. seems to be a setting somewhere in the .config to specify that amd64 or i386 or whatever arch specific ending
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15:10<FLD>seems gratuitous
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15:11<drm>does anyone know what to do when the debian installer does not detect the SSD?
15:12<sussudio>drm: do you mean an ssd or an nvm
15:13<sussudio>or whatever that disk on a stick was called.
15:13<sussudio>nvme
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15:14<drm>@sussudio, tbh not sure, its a dell 7510 precision. Seems to be nvme based on quick google searches
15:14<sussudio>!nvme
15:14<dpkg>extra, extra, read all about it, nvme is Non-Volative Memory Express (NVMe) a specification for newer PCI Express 3.0 x4 solid-state drives. Currently almost all late-model motherboards now support PCI Express 3.0 x4 NVME M.2 drives.
15:15<sussudio>sure there another factoid...
15:15<drm>umm, sorry, I still dont understand. Do you know what I should google for to get a solution to this?
15:16<sussudio>nvme nog recognized by debian installer
15:16<sussudio>something like that
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15:17<drm>crap, any other flavor of linux that does recognize it that you know of?
15:20<sussudio>drm: could possibly be a bios bug...
15:20<sussudio>someone else was in here a month ago with a similar problem with the 7510.
15:21<sussudio>[11:02:35] <ross`> The installer set the path to \EFI\debian\grubx64.efi <ross`> If I go into my bios and manually change it to 'EFI\debian\grubx64.efi then it boots grub <ross`> The prepending \ broke it.
15:21<sussudio>i'm not sure if this helps in your case
15:21<tomreyn>drm: disable "Intel RST" if you have that option in bios.
15:22<drm>let me try
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15:25<tomreyn>also, if it has an SATA mode which you can set to either AHCI or RAID, set it to AHCI
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15:26<sney>looks like dell has several bios updates for that model, you may as well make sure you're up to date, it's common for a factory bios from vendors like that to have weird issues on anything non-windows
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15:28<drm>I have set SATA to AHCI, still looking for the grub path. How do I update the BIOS?
15:29<sney>go to dell.com, navigate to the downloads section, enter your model name and follow the instructions. they usually work from a freedos environment or so
15:29<Sqrt{not}>those dells will let you just download the new bios to a usb stick, and then there is a boot option to update directly from the usb. usb formatted like dos/fat
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15:32<Sqrt{not}>you will download a file similar to "Precision_Tower_3620_2.6.1.exe" but you don't need to run it like an actual .exe --- just let the bios find it and the bios will update it from there
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15:34<drm>oh ok, yeah, I was wondering why it was coming up with an exe
15:41<drm>and do I need to F2 into BIOS and do anything for it to detect the .exe? I tried just now, but it did not seem to detect the file was available
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15:41<drm>this is the one that dell is guiding me to https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=20gg9&oscode=biosa&productcode=precision-m7510-workstation
15:45<Sqrt{not}>drm, there is some path through the bios menus to find the file, but I don't remember exactly what you have to choose to get there.
15:46<tomreyn>there are "installation instructions" on that very page drm linked
15:47<drm>@tomreyn, indeed, ty
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15:50<drm>firmware is updating
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15:58<drm>i dont see intel rst in the BIOS anywhere, still looking for the \EFI\debian\grubx64.efi path as well.
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15:59<drm>ah, found the \EFI\debian\grubx64.efi path
16:02<drm>oh actually this iso has bootx64.efi and grubx64.efi, which one do I want? Their sha's are different, so its not the same file with two names
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16:03<drm>hmm, the BIOS is defaulting to the bootx64.efi file, and wont let me change the path.
16:04<sussudio><ross`> Cool, yeah I confirmed for sure that this can be fixed with linux after grub-install (which succeeds but installs bad prepended value) <ross`> with efibootmgr -b xxxx -B (remove bad record) <ross`> efibootmgr -c -L "debian" -l "EFI\debian\grubx64.efi" (create good record)
16:04<sussudio><ross`> https://www.dell.com/community/Inspiron/Dell-G5-15-5587-does-not-boot-GRUB-or-systemd-boot/td-p/7188704
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16:06<drm>@sussudio, ty, I'm wondering tho if that will affect my case, as I dont plan on dual-booting (looks like <ross`> was)
16:07<sussudio>well you were both using a nvme.
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16:08<drm>yep, ill try again with the install and see what happens, thanks again.
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16:09<sussudio>k.
16:10<tjcarter>Dell = e-waste
16:10<tjcarter>For a time Dell stuff was nearly almost standard and they decided they had to be moar proprietary and stupid
16:11<sussudio>was this before or after the gx270-era bad caps stuff
16:12<tjcarter>sussudio: that they had almost "normal" systems? After.
16:12<tjcarter>sussudio: but they're back to garbage
16:12<sussudio>so, with hp and dell both being garbage, what do you buy
16:13<tjcarter>Yeah.
16:13<tjcarter>Fortunately, assembling a PC has never been easier.
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16:14<sussudio>used ones are mostly either dell or hp here
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16:14<tjcarter>So I buy an ASUS board, a Fractal or Corsair case, etc..
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16:15<tjcarter>If not for front panel LEDs/switches, a person can assemble a PC blindfolded today.
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16:18<drm>the BIOS update and setting SATA to AHCI appears to have worked, as the partitioner now detects the nvme ssd. Thank you all
16:21<Kad_ksb>Ugh... Having all sorts of issues booting into Bullseye. First it failed on a network disk in fstab, then mdadm "no devices listed in conf file were found", now it failed on my NVMe, Local File Systems, then Network Time Synchronization. Ideas of what is so badly borked?
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16:21<Kad_ksb>(upgrade from 10 to 11)
16:22<Kad_ksb>s/of/on
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16:24<enigma>that is booting from iso all those crazy errors?
16:24<enigma>ohhhh i should read the next thing upgrade
16:24<Kad_ksb>No, after `apt full-upgrade`
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16:24<Kad_ksb>(well, after that and `reboot`, anyway)
16:25<enigma>yep sorry i replied but no idea how to help, good luck
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16:26<Sqrt{not}>Kad_ksb, the release notes https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/index.en.html have some hints for the upgrade
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16:28<Kad_ksb>Okay, after a full shutdown it now came up with "only" failing NTP and something else I didn't see before it went away.
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16:28<enigma>sudo apt purge ntp
16:28<enigma>that'll fix that
16:29<Kad_ksb>Fun fact: no mention of ANY of this in dmesg.
16:29<Kad_ksb>enigma: yeah, except I did have ntp configured...
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16:29<Kad_ksb>Nothing failed in journalctl...
16:30<OD>Sorry to ask this here but I need someone to check for me:
16:30<OD>Certificate information:
16:30<OD> - Hostname: [snip]
16:30<OD> - Valid: from Sep 26 10:38:17 2021 GMT until Dec 25 10:38:16 2021 GMT
16:30<OD> - Issuer: Let's Encrypt, US
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16:30<enigma>ligit question... is there any need for ntp? my clock seems to sync magically without it
16:30<OD>Why has this expired?
16:30<OD>enigma: that's probably NTP doing it
16:31<Kad_ksb>enigma: I was experimenting with NTP *server* on this, and just kinda left it up.
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16:31<Kad_ksb>I think I ended up moving it to my router, eventually.
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16:32<Kad_ksb>OD: everything says it shouldn't have; check that you don't have other certs loading, and that it's not been revoked
16:32<OD>enigma: funny you should ask BTW - I've actually started investigating this, for a project me and a friend have recently discovered that computer clocks are trash - but my watch seems pretty good and as a kid I wasn't allowed online (due to being pedo-bait) - I didn't constantly set it
16:32<OD>I'm investigating but certainly any modern PC - they have severe clock issues
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16:33<OD>Kad_ksb: it seems to work in firefox and my computer thinks it is the 2nd of October 2021
16:33<OD>I'm a bit spooked
16:33<OD>Kad_ksb: if I PM you the host can you check? This is also the first time it's not worked and I checked something out about 18 hours ago - which worked on this machine
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16:34<Kad_ksb>Sure, why not.
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16:35<aloo_shu>OD I just learned one of Let's Encrypt root certs (DST X3) got dropped
16:36<OD>At least I get an option to use it anyway, I hate it when you get a site that wont let you accept what is obviously someone not bothering to fix it
16:37<aloo_shu>so LE can be verified with other root certs, but the one that support was dropped for just now, apparantly is what many were using
16:38<enigma>I dont think my bios clock is accurate, I just feel like Im getting network time updates somehow without ntp... but dunno how.
16:39<enigma>ntp is also very picky isnt it... like it'll only update your time if your close to right
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16:39<enigma>your-->you're
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16:40<enigma>but keeping accurate time has been cool scienee for like hundreds of years. my friggen ford explorer can't keep time.
16:40<enigma>it loses a couple minutes a week
16:41<enigma>which matters after a month and you're ten minutes late to something
16:42<aloo_shu>man hwclock - there are hw and system clock, explains some situational oddities; but if it's the Let's Encrypt cert chain, chances are it's *not* your clock, but a root cert that's been dropped just these days
16:42<enigma>but my wind up watch fro 1970 that my dad gave me works fine
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16:44<Kad_ksb>From what I can tell, his chain is X1 then R3, so it should be good.
16:44<Kad_ksb>Both my openssl and web browser like the cert. It's something else.
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16:52<Kad_ksb>Okay... So it's no longer stopping on mdadm now, for some reason. (also, all three arrays seem fine?) Now it's throwing errors about failing "User Login Management" and "Load Kernel Module drm", but then starts up.
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16:56<Kad_ksb>[F] it. If it becomes unbootable, I'll fix it *then*.
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17:08<OD>bk
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17:11<OD>aloo_shu: I've tried it from a machine in Germany, same error - but it seems to be just svn that's annoyed
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17:13<OD>Crap
17:13<OD>I just tried a later version, also works
17:13<OD>and someone else did too
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17:34<bremner>I've added "session optional pam_umask.so debug umask=0077" as the last line of /etc/pam.d/common-session, but it doesn't seem to affect ssh logins. The umask is still 022. I'm puzzled what is setting this,
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17:37<ansgar>bremner: /etc/login.defs?
17:37<bremner>also contains UMASK 077
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18:32<Sqrt{not}>bremner, I found this line from grep (on stretch, sorry): /etc/skel/.profile:# for ssh logins, install and configure the libpam-umask package.
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18:36<Sqrt{not}>but, that package doesn't seem to exist, even in stretch?
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18:42<bremner>Sqrt{not}: it's a virtual package
18:43<tjcarter>you don't exist, go away. And lp0 on fire… And Are you on drugs?/Where did you learn to type? And calling you a bonehead for running fsck on a mounted filesystem. Things most people will never see again because oHh, tHaT's n0t sUiTaBLe FoR pRoFeSSiOnAL sEttInGs… Corporate wusses have to spoil all the fun.
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18:44<bremner>Sqrt{not}: provided by libpam-modules
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19:38<bremner>the plot thickens. The pam_umask thing is working for "su foo -l", but not for ssh.
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19:39<bremner>even though /etc/pam.d/sshd has "@include common-session"
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19:49<bremner>aha. problem solved. I had a cached/multiplexed ssh connection, so it was not creating a new session.
19:52<enigma9o7>doubleplusgood
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20:47<tjcarter>I've never tried to do "clever" things with pam … can it have alternatives for authentication? So if I got myself a yubikey or something, touch the touchybit on that and type a PIN or … if not enter a password?
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22:01<enigma97>lick my butt and suck on my balls?
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