| --- | Log | opened Tue Oct 19 00:00:26 2021 |
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| 00:15 | <Sqrt{not}> | sodo2, are you trying to change the partition that is currently in use? Is the linux system you are running on this partition? It looks like everything is locked in gparted, probably because it is in use. |
| 00:16 | <sodo2> | yes i am |
| 00:16 | <sodo2> | as i can't prepare any external media now |
| 00:17 | <Sqrt{not}> | sodo2, why not? |
| 00:17 | <sodo2> | i don't have any of them i can use now |
| 00:18 | <Sqrt{not}> | sodo2, you should leave your partitions the way they are, until you can boot from a live USB or live DVD or something. Not a good idea to try to rearrange the partitions while they are in use. |
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| 00:19 | <sodo2> | i have 512mb sd |
| 00:19 | <sodo2> | idk if i can boot with it |
| 00:20 | <sodo2> | can you recommend me a small image i can use? |
| 00:20 | <sodo2> | oh |
| 00:20 | <sodo2> | i didn't brought it |
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| 00:21 | <sodo2> | extending while running was possible |
| 00:22 | <sodo2> | so after moving data located at the area to shrink |
| 00:23 | <sodo2> | why it would be impossible to shrink the partition |
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| 00:25 | <Sqrt{not}> | here is the gparted FAQ answering your question: https://gparted.org/faq.php#faq-9 |
| 00:26 | <Sqrt{not}> | sodo2, I don't see a problem with your partitions setup now. Can't you wait until you can do your changes from a live system? |
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| 00:28 | <sodo2> | i try drivedroid with my phone |
| 00:28 | <sodo2> | can you recommend me a small boot image? |
| 00:29 | <Sqrt{not}> | is it for AMD64 arch? |
| 00:29 | <sodo2> | oh |
| 00:29 | <sodo2> | there is gparted live |
| 00:29 | <sodo2> | https://gparted.org/liveusb.php |
| 00:31 | <Sqrt{not}> | that should work. be careful. |
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| 01:09 | <sodo2> | i shrinked that partition and extended swap and rebooted |
| 01:09 | <sodo2> | and i got `mdadm no arrays found in config file or automatically` while booting |
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| 01:23 | <unkmar> | Is there an applet lxpanel that I can configure that displays drive usage? |
| 01:23 | <unkmar> | *applet for lxpanel |
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| 03:36 | <otisolsen70> | What kernel version is provided by default on a debian bullseye at the moment? |
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| 03:36 | <azeem> | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 03:36 | <judd> | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- stretch-security: 4.9+80+deb9u6; stretch: 4.9+80+deb9u11; stretch-backports: 4.19+105+deb10u4~bpo9+1; buster-security: 4.19+105+deb10u9; buster: 4.19+105+deb10u13; buster-backports: 5.10.46-4~bpo10+1; bullseye-security: 5.10.46-5; bullseye: 5.10.70-1; bookworm: 5.14.9-2; sid: 5.14.12-1 |
| 03:38 | <twb> | still no backport huh |
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| 03:40 | <themill> | twb: there is, just not a "default kernel" in backports |
| 03:41 | <otisolsen70> | judd, I dont know how to read that. |
| 03:41 | <judd> | No package named 'dont' was found in bullseye/amd64. |
| 03:41 | <otisolsen70> | azeem, if I just install a vanilla bullseye on amd64. What kernel version would I get? |
| 03:43 | <azeem> | bullseye: 5.10.70-1 |
| 03:43 | <twb> | themill: thanks, I see it in "rmadison linux" |
| 03:43 | <themill> | ,v linux-image-5.14.0-0.bpo.2-amd64-unsigned bullseye-backports |
| 03:43 | <judd> | Package: linux-image-5.14.0-0.bpo.2-amd64-unsigned on amd64 -- bullseye-backports: 5.14.9-2~bpo11+1 |
| 03:44 | <azeem> | ah cool |
| 03:44 | <twb> | What's "backports-policy" ? |
| 03:44 | <themill> | twb: policy queues are a dak thing for manual $something (details vary) |
| 03:44 | <twb> | "scary magic; ignore" |
| 03:45 | <themill> | also "mere mortals can't get it" |
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| 03:47 | <ksk> | / #linux |
| 03:47 | <ksk> | sry |
| 03:48 | <twb> | OK so yeah this is annoying |
| 03:48 | <twb> | I can't just --include=linux-image-generic/bullseye-backports |
| 03:49 | <twb> | Will that start working soonish, or do I need to change my process completely? |
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| 03:52 | <otisolsen70> | azeem, thanks |
| 03:52 | <themill> | twb: linux-signed-amd64 is in backports-new, so should do |
| 03:53 | <twb> | themill: I hope that means the first of the two options :-) |
| 03:53 | <themill> | heh |
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| 04:58 | <Guest3366> | hello |
| 04:59 | <grove> | !ask |
| 04:59 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 05:20 | <spawacz> | How can i change the daily installer to install stable instead of testing? |
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| 05:21 | <spawacz> | On my board only the daily image boots, but because it is testing it contains kernel 5.14 which breaks the ethernet |
| 05:21 | <twb> | spawacz: it's a prompt |
| 05:21 | <twb> | spawacz: boot with priority=low |
| 05:21 | <spawacz> | what prompt? where? |
| 05:22 | <twb> | boot: prompt |
| 05:22 | <spawacz> | i carefully followed the install and it didnt ask me |
| 05:22 | <twb> | spawacz: or you can change it interactively |
| 05:22 | <twb> | spawacz: get to any prompt, pick "back", scroll down to "change priority" |
| 05:22 | <spawacz> | when it asks for the url to repositories? |
| 05:22 | <spawacz> | mmm |
| 05:22 | <spawacz> | and what's inside "change priority"? |
| 05:22 | <spawacz> | i will be able to select stable/testing etc? |
| 05:23 | <twb> | spawacz: d-i asks like 50 questions |
| 05:23 | <twb> | spawacz: some are "low" priority so it doesn't actually ask them by default |
| 05:23 | <twb> | "install stable, testing, or unstable?" is one of those |
| 05:23 | <spawacz> | it didnt ask that... 100% |
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| 05:23 | <twb> | spawacz: so what you do is, lower the threshold for "boring" prompts before it reaches that question |
| 05:24 | <spawacz> | oikay |
| 05:27 | <twb> | https://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/arm64/daily/netboot/mini.iso <-- you're booting something like that? |
| 05:28 | <spawacz> | i used SDcard images |
| 05:28 | <spawacz> | that come with firmware + partition |
| 05:28 | <twb> | From where? |
| 05:29 | <spawacz> | your link, 1 directory up |
| 05:29 | <twb> | OK, good |
| 05:32 | <twb> | Odd, this isn't Just Working for me today... |
| 05:32 | <twb> | wget2 https://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/debian-installer/amd64/{linux,initrd.gz} && kvm -kernel linux -initrd initrd.gz -nographic -append console=ttyS0 |
| 05:34 | <wyre_> | Thank you Tj (because of the thing about -regex for find) |
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| 06:19 | <spawacz> | twb: it worked!!!! |
| 06:19 | <spawacz> | :D:D |
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| 06:39 | <heioro> | Is this where I make requests for debian 11 backports? |
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| 06:47 | <spawacz> | "failed to execute process dbus-launch" when starting xfce4, what's the issue? |
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| 06:48 | <spawacz> | okay dbus-x11 was not installed |
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| 07:18 | <twb> | spawacz: you turned off systemd |
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| 07:18 | <twb> | dbus-x11 is for people who din't have systemd --user set up |
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| 07:27 | <spawacz> | it was after fresh stable install on rockpro |
| 07:27 | <spawacz> | i didnt turn anything off |
| 07:27 | <spawacz> | maybe it required a reboot |
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| 08:12 | <kingknorr> | is it possible to install this on debian without having an internet connection: https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu ? |
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| 08:20 | <grove> | kingknorr: I don't know that driver, but I can't imagine that anything should prevent it from working if you download it on a machine with an internet connection, put it on some kind of removable media, use that to move it to the machine without internet connection and then build it there |
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| 08:23 | <kingknorr> | i tried it. but it seems like i need to get dkms running first, where it's getting complicated. all the dependencies i need to manually download and install on the machine without connection is quite hard |
| 08:24 | <kingknorr> | one i install a couple dependencies i get the message that another dependencies are required in order to install the main dependent packages for dkms |
| 08:25 | <kingknorr> | once* |
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| 08:39 | <axet> | hello! does anyone knows why 'HOST_LIST=armel TARGET_LIST="i386" cross-gcc-gensource 10' does create 'cross-gcc-packages-amd64' directory. looks like a bug, it should craete 'armel' compiller! |
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| 08:41 | <axet> | I even tried bugged arch like 'ddd' it still createas 'amd64' |
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| 08:49 | <marcello42> | hey folks, I am wondering, if I there is a way to connect to a server and rejoin the ssh session. Not just keeping it alive but more like a bouncer. Why? I want to run a command which might takes a few days and I want to check from time to time the stdout on the console |
| 08:49 | <grove> | marcello42: Run the command in a screen(1) |
| 08:50 | <ksk> | s/screen/tmux |
| 08:50 | <marcello42> | grove, I do not get what screen(!) stands for |
| 08:50 | <grove> | kingknorr: I think apt-offline is made to make that easier |
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| 08:50 | <ksk> | !v screen |
| 08:50 | <ksk> | ,v screen |
| 08:50 | <judd> | Package: screen on amd64 -- stretch: 4.5.0-6; buster: 4.6.2-3+deb10u1; buster-security: 4.6.2-3+deb10u1; bullseye: 4.8.0-6; bookworm: 4.8.0-7; sid: 4.8.0-7 |
| 08:50 | <ksk> | marcello42: ^ |
| 08:50 | <ksk> | ,info screen |
| 08:50 | <judd> | Package screen (misc, optional) in bullseye/amd64: terminal multiplexer with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. Version: 4.8.0-6; Size: 594.5k; Installed: 1014k; Homepage: https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/screen; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/screen |
| 08:50 | <marcello42> | thanks I check it :) and read the man |
| 08:51 | <bremner> | if just starting, consider tmux as an alternative to screen |
| 08:51 | <ksk> | one could argue screen was superseeded by a tool named "tmux", which does basicly the same |
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| 08:52 | <marcello42> | okay afaik I can also use tmux for split screens on my terminal emulator, which does not have tabs or similar, right? didn't get it to work so far, but neither put much effort by now |
| 08:52 | <grove> | I've never seen the advantages of tmux |
| 08:52 | <marcello42> | I guess tmux has to run on the server? |
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| 08:56 | <bremner> | either/or |
| 08:56 | <bremner> | mostly people run it on the server in case of disconnect |
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| 09:07 | <marcello42> | thanks |
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| 10:39 | <grzesiek11_> | I want to run some CPU-limited (via cgroups) processes as a non-root user. 'systemd-run -p CPUQuota=1% /bin/whatever' works as root, but if I add the '--user' flag and try running as user, it still allows the process to consume all CPU time. |
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| 10:46 | <marcello42> | I noticed it is possible to install debian with "targeted only drivers"; how can I check in a previous installation whether or not it did it? And is it able to change from generic to targeted only afterwards perhaps with an upgrade to a newer release still have a buster as well. |
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| 10:56 | <marcello42> | back in a second |
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| 10:58 | <marcello42> | re |
| 11:01 | <bremner> | I don't know what "targeted only drivers" are, but mixing stable releases is never supported. |
| 11:01 | <marcello42> | it is not about mixing releases rather not having drivers installed for devices which are not present |
| 11:01 | <imMute> | bremner: it's that initrd setting - do you include all drivers or just the ones needed for the current machine. |
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| 11:03 | <marcello42> | imMute: sounds like that is what I am looking for, so is it possible to change / view the setting here? |
| 11:04 | <imMute> | marcello42: it's probably a debconf option for some package. |
| 11:04 | <marcello42> | imMute: thanks I'll check if I find the right man for that! |
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| 11:05 | <bremner> | marcello42: how is "still having a buster" not mixing releases? what do you mean then? |
| 11:05 | <jkc> | marcello42: You're going to need to compile your own kernel package, and that's not advised because then you'll be on your own for security updates. |
| 11:05 | <imMute> | marcello42: https://askubuntu.com/questions/16007/switch-to-a-targeted-initrd-after-setup that's for Ubuntu, but that file mentioned exists on my debian machine, so my guess is it'll work for debian as well |
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| 11:06 | <imMute> | jkc: what are you talking about? this is a debian supported config option |
| 11:06 | <jkc> | imMute: That's just for the initrd. That doesn't handle modules still present on the system. |
| 11:06 | <jkc> | The "initrd" part of "targeted initrd" indicates as much. |
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| 11:06 | <imMute> | jkc: I assume that's what marcello42 is asking about - the initrd option. |
| 11:07 | <jkc> | "not having drivers installed" |
| 11:07 | <jkc> | MAYBE he's referring to the initrd, not sure. If so, then great, that's how to solve it. |
| 11:07 | <jkc> | But if the desire is not to have modules installed on the system that you don't need, then no, you'll need to build your own kernel. |
| 11:08 | <imMute> | I'm going off their original question, which is almost certainly talking about the initrd stuff. |
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| 11:08 | <marcello42> | bremner: still meaning upgrading the distro as it is the official path and I added this so if it might easier to do it w/ a distr-upgrade |
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| 11:09 | <marcello42> | imMute: perhaps :D idk I was just seeing the option when I installed debian on another machine |
| 11:09 | <jkc> | imMute: The original question said nothing about the initrd, so that's an assumption. So... Maybe yes, maybe no. |
| 11:09 | <marcello42> | my machine has 256mb so saving as much as possible is good |
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| 11:09 | <jkc> | marcello42: What is the ACTUAL concern, here? |
| 11:10 | <imMute> | jkc: you're assuming marcello42 even knows what an initrd is. it sounds like they just saw the option during install and are wondering what it is |
| 11:10 | <jkc> | Memory usage by the kernel or something else? |
| 11:10 | <jkc> | imMute: K. |
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| 11:10 | <marcello42> | total in slot |
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| 11:11 | <marcello42> | clean installation has nearly 40MiB used excl. buff/cache |
| 11:11 | <jkc> | What release is this? |
| 11:11 | <marcello42> | buster |
| 11:12 | <marcello42> | imMute: barely I know it.. it is the first process which is going to be started isnt it? |
| 11:12 | <imMute> | marcello42: 40MiB of RAM being used is *very* low, congrats. |
| 11:13 | <marcello42> | you recall that meme no one will ever need more than 640K? :D |
| 11:13 | <jkc> | marcello42: So are you worried about how much memory the kernel takes up? |
| 11:13 | <marcello42> | I try to optimize here and I thought that this option could have helped |
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| 11:15 | <jkc> | marcello42: Drivers aren't loaded into memory until a device that uses it is detected. |
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| 11:16 | <jkc> | (And no one ever actually said that 640KB is enough for anyone. Internet myth, there.) |
| 11:18 | <marcello42> | yes I do know it is a myth ;) ..ah ok! yea than I won't bother at all I thought everything what it has is loaded while booting up the system |
| 11:18 | <marcello42> | then* |
| 11:18 | <marcello42> | thanks both of you |
| 11:18 | <mason> | marcello42: Think of it this way. RAM that isn't used is a waste of electricity. |
| 11:19 | <mason> | marcello42: also: https://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 11:20 | <marcello42> | makes sense this channel is stuffed with many smart people |
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| 11:24 | <mason> | marcello42: It's like https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.NQg6QYaxOwnepiYCyQeUyAHaFk%26pid%3DApi&f=1 |
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| 13:04 | <redbrass> | How do I check if my system is running bullseye or buster? This has a twist though. We used debootstrap to create the filesystem, and override some of the host/system settings so that /etc/os-issue and /etc/os-release report OUR info. lsb_release is not available in the installed system. I still need to confirm it is in fact running on bullseye though. |
| 13:05 | <redbrass> | (cuz we have both buster and bullseye builds at the moment while we transistion to only bullseye...) |
| 13:05 | <imMute> | redbrass: maybe look at which libc6 is installed? 2.28 is buster, 2.31 is bullseye |
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| 13:06 | <redbrass> | 2.31 it is. Thanks. |
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| 13:08 | <redbrass> | But I think that just tells me the system installed from the bullseye sources. That is probably sufficient for us, but I don't know if it means the base filesystem is correct. I'm probably overthinking this though while I focus on verifying the build is correct after the fact... |
| 13:09 | <bremner> | did you overwrite /etc/debian_version? |
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| 13:20 | <tristero> | redbrass: apt-cache policy base-files |
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| 13:55 | <scorpion2185[m]> | how do I save the list of the installed packages? |
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| 13:55 | <jkc> | dpkg -l will give you the full list and a bunch of associated metadata. |
| 13:55 | <dpkg> | No packages found matching will give you the full list and a bunch of associated metadata. |
| 13:56 | <sussudio> | !apt backup |
| 13:56 | <sussudio> | no that wasn't it... |
| 13:56 | <sussudio> | !apt-clone |
| 13:56 | <dpkg> | methinks apt-clone is a utility to clone/restore the packages on an apt-based system. It will save/restore the packages, sources.list, keyring and automatic-installed states. It can also save/restore no longer downloadable packages using <dpkg-repack>. |
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| 13:58 | <jkc> | And yeah, we know why. |
| 13:58 | <jkc> | Wrong terminal, sorry. |
| 13:58 | <scorpion2185[m]> | thanks, I've read something in the handbook that doesn't need packages if I am not mistaken but I can't find it |
| 13:59 | <sussudio> | !debian clone |
| 13:59 | <dpkg> | One method of cloning Debian installs is to take a current Debian machine that is set up with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ~/selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone>, <reinstall>, <things to backup> <apt-clone>. |
| 13:59 | -!- | mooff[m] is now known as mooff |
| 13:59 | <sney> | the problem with the dpkg --get-selections approach is that all of those packages will be set as manually installed |
| 14:01 | <scorpion2185[m]> | it was that, I'll check aptitude clone |
| 14:02 | <scorpion2185[m]> | ,i aptitude-clone |
| 14:02 | <judd> | No package named 'aptitude-clone' was found in bullseye/amd64. |
| 14:03 | <sney> | aptitude clone is a technique that uses aptitude to clone the system, not a separate tool |
| 14:04 | <scorpion2185[m]> | >This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. |
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| 14:07 | <un214> | Well I managed to get myself into serious trouble |
| 14:08 | <un214> | on upgrading the last server from buster to bullseye in uninstalled tinyca2 which was the whole reason for the server's existence |
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| 14:08 | <un214> | trying to backport the missing dependency does not work nor does pulling the missing packages from buster |
| 14:09 | <scorpion2185[m]> | I checked the aptitude list but it's just a list I wonder how you can see other infos |
| 14:09 | <un214> | is there a good way to install a package and all its dependencies via apt-get in a chroot jail? |
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| 14:10 | <un214> | I basically want to give it a synthetic buster to run the application while the real server (hosting the network connections) is actually on bullseye |
| 14:10 | <bremner> | chroot in and then use apt-get? |
| 14:11 | <un214> | bremer well that would make sense except for the directory that I would chroot into is currently empty |
| 14:11 | <Guest1247> | you can use debootstrap to build a chroot jail |
| 14:12 | <un214> | Guest1247 though so. Linky? |
| 14:12 | <Guest1247> | or you could use containers, e.g. docker |
| 14:12 | <Guest1247> | check out the debootstrap or cdebootstrap packages |
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| 14:17 | <un214> | well that might work; debootstrap is downloading files |
| 14:17 | <Guest1247> | (the debian docker hub images are built using debuerreotype) |
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| 14:21 | <Guest1247> | un214… note, i dont know if what you are doing is sane or if you'll create a frankendebian |
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| 14:36 | <scorpion2185[m]> | !aptitude clone |
| 14:36 | <dpkg> | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>. |
| 14:37 | <scorpion2185[m]> | I get it it only saves the manually installed packages |
| 14:38 | <scorpion2185[m]> | This aptitude has super clone power |
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| 14:38 | <scorpion2185[m]> | anyone use spectral? something is wrong |
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| 15:47 | <jeff__> | Hello @mooff ;) Do you remember me ? I resolved my Fn keys problem (Fn volume keys under mate volume control). It appeared that Fn keys where correctly detected by x-server,, but I omitted to say that I used OpenBox. So, to make Fn keys work, I've had to add their description to rc.xml in ~/.config/openbox dir (as like "<keybind key="XF86AudioRaiseVolume"> |
| 15:47 | <jeff__> | <action name="Execute"> |
| 15:47 | <jeff__> | <command>amixer set Master 5%+</command> |
| 15:47 | <jeff__> | </action> |
| 15:47 | <jeff__> | </keybind>) |
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| 15:47 | <jeff__> | now, Fn keys perfectly work. |
| 15:55 | <sney> | !mentions |
| 15:55 | <dpkg> | '@name' style mentions, common on social media and newer chat platforms, are not part of IRC. Most IRC clients ignore this kind of highlight. If you want to get someone's attention on IRC, don't @ them, simply type their nick at the beginning of the line. And while we have your attention, make sure that you read the <channel topic>. |
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| 16:01 | <scorpion2185[m]> | I use `amixer sset 'Master' 10%+ unmute` are you running MATE with openbox as window manager? |
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| 16:12 | <jeff__> | dpkg Thanx. My apologies. |
| 16:12 | <dpkg> | jeff__: sure thing |
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| 16:18 | <jeff__> | mooff Hello. Do you remember me ? ;) (well, I retry) I resolved my Fn keys problem (Fn volume keys under mate volume control). It appeared that Fn keys where correctly detected by x-server, but I omitted to say that I used OpenBox. So, to make Fn keys work, I've had to add their description to rc.xml in ~/.config/openbox dir. |
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| 16:21 | <jeff__> | all that to say thank you to have tried to help me to resolve this thru this channel |
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| 18:02 | <coc0nut> | any drivers for ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad ? the touchpad is working, but i dont have any functionality on it. like zoom and tap to mouseclick and so on |
| 18:04 | <coc0nut> | nevermind was a setting lol |
| 18:05 | <coc0nut> | still no zoom tho |
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| 18:56 | <cc> | coc0nut: touchpad driver is usually synaptics or libinput |
| 18:56 | <cc> | which one do you use? |
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| 19:57 | <LionelHutz> | test |
| 19:57 | <sney> | !test |
| 19:57 | <dpkg> | Test failed. |
| 19:59 | <ax562> | lol |
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| 20:22 | <Guest3483> | which .confg params in the deb kernel build result in these drives being built? |
| 20:22 | <Guest3483> | [ 3.764680] fb0: EFI VGA frame buffer device |
| 20:22 | <Guest3483> | [ 4.621120] fb0: switching to inteldrmfb from EFI VGA |
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| 20:27 | <sney> | hanasaki: I think it's the CONFIG_DRM_FBDEV* stuff |
| 20:28 | <hanasaki> | sney: thanks. I have played around with that to no help. my customer kernel ends up with this: |
| 20:28 | <hanasaki> | [ 3.763269] fb0: EFI VGA frame buffer device |
| 20:28 | <hanasaki> | [ 3.763374] fb1: VGA16 VGA frame buffer device |
| 20:28 | <hanasaki> | [ 4.573215] fb0: switching to inteldrmfb from EFI VGA |
| 20:28 | <hanasaki> | [ 4.573774] fb1: switching to inteldrmfb from VGA16 VGA Then I cannot swith to a VT ... its just black |
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| 20:28 | <hanasaki> | sorry Ops... not a flood... 4 line paste :( |
| 20:29 | <sarnold> | the bots don't know if you're stopping at four lines or stopping at 9000 |
| 20:29 | <hanasaki> | I know ... |
| 20:29 | <sney> | right, if you're pasting always use a pastebin |
| 20:29 | <hanasaki> | sorry . again. thought perhaps <8 would be ok |
| 20:30 | <sney> | anyway, what is your real goal? disabling fbdev in .config is not usually needed for anything |
| 20:30 | <sarnold> | two or three is the usual guideline, it depends upon how complex they are |
| 20:30 | <hanasaki> | would really appreciate any help w/ this kernel video issue |
| 20:31 | <hanasaki> | not even sure where this FB1 is coming from |
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| 20:41 | <hanasaki> | so when would you want DRM_SIMPLEDRM? |
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| 20:44 | <sney> | if you give some more details on the original issue here, maybe we will be able to give you useful answers |
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| 20:48 | <hanasaki> | sney: ok... so the deb provided kernels work fine and show |
| 20:48 | <hanasaki> | [ 3.764680] fb0: EFI VGA frame buffer device |
| 20:48 | <hanasaki> | [ 4.621120] fb0: switching to inteldrmfb from EFI VGA |
| 20:49 | <hanasaki> | I built a custom kernel and it seems to also have a FB1 .. not just FB0 and when switching to a VT the VT is black yet not locked up .. its functional if I blindly type |
| 20:56 | <hanasaki> | sney: ?? |
| 20:56 | <sney> | the _original issue_, as in, what you were originally trying to fix when you went down a framebuffer rabbit hole |
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| 21:16 | <hanasaki> | orig issue is build a custom kernel. same FB issue shows up even when I build a new kernel using the .config that came with deb |
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| 21:20 | <Sqrt{not}> | hanasaki, what version is your deb provided kernels that work fine? and what version is your custom-built kernel? |
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| 21:23 | <hanasaki> | 5.10.0-9-amd64 from bullseye . I tried 5.10.14 and copied the config from 5.10.0-9-amd64 debian. also tried |
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| 21:24 | <hanasaki> | I am seeking a better understanding about what kernel behavior would cause this exttra FB |
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| 23:07 | <LionelHutz> | Hello again. Is there an ETA for Mate 1.26? |
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| 23:08 | <somiaj> | debian stable sticks with frozen versions (for the most part), so the version of mate won't change until the next release in about two years |
| 23:08 | <LionelHutz> | Sid is still on 1.24 |
| 23:09 | <somiaj> | oh so you run sid, then you should be asking questions in #debian-next, and debian never works on eta |
| 23:09 | <somiaj> | !wir |
| 23:09 | <dpkg> | wir is probably When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>. |
| 23:10 | <somiaj> | desktops take a bit to build/package/test, but it all depends on the volunteer maintainers who do that |
| 23:10 | <LionelHutz> | Okay. Thanks. |
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| 23:18 | <alex11> | if 1.26 has been released already i'd expect it relatively soon though |
| 23:18 | <alex11> | mate is the one desktop that gets stable-backports, i wouldn't expect it appearing in sid would take too long |
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| 23:19 | <alex11> | it's stuff like kde that takes forever with all the packages having to transition |
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| 23:20 | <LionelHutz> | 1.26 came out 2 months ago |
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| 23:20 | <alex11> | welp. |
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| 23:21 | <somiaj> | the freeze slowed things down, so standard development is only slowly getting back into place |
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| 23:21 | <somiaj> | but can just depend on the volunteers time, just have to basically wait |
| 23:25 | <sney> | sid/testing has taken longer to get rolling than in the past, usually the months after a stable release are upload chaos |
| 23:25 | <sney> | I suspect this whole pandemic thing has something to do with it |
| 23:26 | <sney> | if you are familiar with mate, particularly building/debugging it, you might speed things up by offering to help |
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| 23:27 | <sney> | https://lists.debian.org/debian-mate/ |
| 23:31 | <LionelHutz> | Well I'm somewhat familiar with cmake. I compile a lot of code I find on github. Dunno if I could contribute more besides maybe offering feedback... |
| 23:34 | <LionelHutz> | Thanks for your input btw. |
| 23:37 | <sney> | np |
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| 23:51 | <Rick_sysop> | Hello, i am having problem with Asus EEePC 1000HE -- The problem i have is to Upgrade BIOS frÃrom version 0605 --> 1104. i have read google and i have tried to follow ASUS Guideline in how to use built-in Ez Flash Utillity (During Post Press ALT + F2 - when USB is attached and 1104.ROM file is saved to the root of the Pendrive) |
| 23:51 | <Rick_sysop> | I did write a thread on ASUS Software department helpdesk regarding this, here's the thread  |
| 23:51 | <Rick_sysop> | 07:50 [ ericnoan ] [ nander ] [ will0w ] |
| 23:52 | <Rick_sysop> | https://zentalk.asus.com/en/discussion/54063/asus-eeepc-1000he/p1?new=1&fbclid=IwAR2983ODEiU7FPLAl-9iictO2IjVj5i3r0k3y8tJyJ_KBYIOwsANethGZfc |
| 23:52 | <Rick_sysop> | i found through Debian Wiki page regarding EEePC that the following was written - the following statement. |
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| 23:55 | <Rick_sysop> | according to this page https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/UpgradeBIOS it says following statement 1000HE only available with windows OS: Successfully updated bios with 1000HE.ROM revision 1002, solved acpi issue reading temperature with linux 2.6.32 |
| 23:57 | <Rick_sysop> | i have tried W7 X86 (32-bit) but without any success. In one way it feels a bit disoriented, not knowing exact which explicit Windows version Debian Wiki community is refering to to this explicit machine. So that's why i'm asking here if anyone know how i can through Linux forecefully write 1104.ROM to this machine. Or if someone know how i can achive this 1104.ROM Flash through within FreeDOS |
| 23:57 | <Rick_sysop> | (AFUDOS) please let me know the chronicol order and how to proceed. |
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