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---Logopened Wed Oct 27 00:00:37 2021
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01:03<xust>twb: yeah, i know, i just want to know if there is a channel which discuss gvfs issues.
01:04<twb>xust: not afaik
01:04<xust>twb: thank you~
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01:34<lin>Cannot upgrade OpenGL on my Atom N450
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01:59<tjcarter>why do they never stay to actually … *sigh*
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03:12<superlinux> hello. I still have a problem with apt itself. I can resolve the DNS by any other program correctly, but apt does not
03:13<superlinux>I cannot do apt update too
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03:16<superlinux>please help me fix this
03:16<superlinux>I changed the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf I have nothing
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03:22<cc>superlinux: pastebin your sources.list, any files in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ and a full log of `apt update` including the invocation command
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03:24<superlinux>cc I have a resolution problem not a sources.list problem
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03:26<superlinux>I can give you apt update
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03:28<superlinux>I found it
03:28<superlinux>I had a typo
03:29<superlinux>%s/bullesye/bullseye/g
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03:39<alex11>that'll do it.
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03:59<terminal1weller>I have to build and install a newer version of linux-pam on debian. so pretty much have to remove the old one and build and install the newer one. How can I do that over ssh?
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04:03<jm_>terminal1weller: are you asking how to build newer version of debian packages or what?
04:04<sep>terminal1weller, i allways start trying to do a simple sid backport https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
04:04<sep>terminal1weller, but you would anyway build and package it someone locally. test it. and then upgrade the package to your own built version on the remote one.
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04:06<jm_>,checkbackport libpam-modules
04:06<judd>Backporting package libpam-modules in sid→bullseye/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using bullseye.
04:08<terminal1weller>sep_,by upgrading you mean building an rpm and then using that to upgrade?
04:09<terminal1weller>jm_, not really i need to build a newer version in debug mode and then use that for development.
04:10<terminal1weller>can I use a proot/chroot?
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04:15<jm_>the wiki has all the steps, but yes, chroot can also be used for building backports, i.e. with cowbuilder or pbuilder
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04:26<terminal1weller>where can i find debian rootfs for download?
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05:00<Phoman>Hi all, I am trying to narrow down a bug with qemu on Debian unstable. The error I receive is the following: "qemu-system-x86_64: -vnc 127.0.0.1:76: could not read keymap file: 'en-us'". Now, using strace I can see that qemu is trying to access the paths /usr/share/qemu/keymaps/en-us, /usr/share/seabios/keymaps/en-us and /usr/lib/ipxe/qemu/keymaps/en-us before failing
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05:04<jm_>for sid try #debian-next
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05:10<Phoman>Alright
05:11<terminal1weller>jm_, ok thanks
05:13<jm_>terminal1weller: with rootfs, do you mean some sort of container or what? otherwise you can create one using debootstrap or one of its clones
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05:38<terminal1weller>jm_, yeah exactly like a container base. like the one that "docker export" gives. ok thanks. I'll take a look at debootstrap.
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05:46<Phoman>How long does it usually take for a bug reported via email (reportbug) to show up in the debian bug web application?
05:48<Phoman>Nevermind :)
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05:51<jm_>terminal1weller: https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/CreateDockerImage shall help
05:56<jm_>Phoman: have you seen https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=997925 ?
05:58<Phoman>jm_: Yes, that we me :-)
05:58<Phoman>was*
05:59<jm_>Phoman: 997925 and 997926 seem duplicates :)
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06:06<Phoman>Ha, that's funny. I was three minutes fasted though :D
06:06<Phoman>faster*
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06:50<superlinux>how can I tell apt-get to always keep the installed configuration files? I don't want to keep pressing enter to take the default
06:50<superlinux>and the default is to keep the currently the installed configuration
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07:10<Chaotic>superlinux: sudo apt-get install <application> -y
07:12<superlinux>Chaotic, I am do the -y dist-upgrade, still it does ask what to do with the current configuration
07:13<jm_>it's dpkg asking that, not apt
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07:21<xloem[m]>hey #debian ... I have the full dvd set and I noticed there's no Release.gpg file on the first dvd. is there a way to verify these images using only fingerprints and optical media? or does one need to further burn the checksums files and take that around with?
07:22<jm_>!check iso
07:22<dpkg>To verify you have a valid and official Debian CD/DVD image, see http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify . To test an ISO image was burned correctly, compare the output of «md5sum filename.iso; dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s filename.iso` | md5sum». You should compare this md5sum to the checksum for the ISO image on the mirror. See also <check iso signature>.
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10:52<realroot>how do I check if bell module is loaded?
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10:55<realtime-neil>realroot: lsmod | grep '^bell'
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10:57<realroot>if returns "pcspkr 16384 0" is loaded?
10:57<realroot>that is the actual name of the module
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13:56<alan92>Hello, I started bullseye install from a non-free CD netinst image downloaded from https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ but it still asks for iwlwifi firmware during installation.
13:56<sney>does your wifi nic work anyway? some firmware files are optional
13:56<alan92>no it does not work
13:57<sney>ok, how did you write the iso to usb?
13:57<alan92>rufus
13:57<sney>do it again, and make sure to select dd mode
13:57<sney>rufus in iso mode (the default) repacks the debian installer and tends to break it
13:58<sney>!rufus
13:58<dpkg>rufus is a tool that can be used to make bootable USB devices under Windows. Debian CD/DVD images MUST be written in "DD Mode," otherwise it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>.
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13:59<mikolajw>hello
14:00<sney>hi
14:00<Chaotic>i prefer balena
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14:01<sney>etcher has had some oddball results too, but anyway it doesn't matter which tool is used as long as it writes the image directly to the usb without modifying it
14:01<mikolajw>please update homepage URLs in all possible KiCad Debian packages from kicad-pcb.org to kicad.org
14:01<mikolajw>KiCad moved to kicad.org in 2020
14:01<sney>mikolajw: #debian is a support channel, if you need a change made in packaging then you should file a bug
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14:02<mikolajw>aw, sorry
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14:04<mikolajw>but just to finish, a former project member has betrayed the community and has recently sold kicad-pcb.org to a third party
14:06<mikolajw>as a result, kicad-pcb.org is currently hosting a fake website most likely for the purpose of serving malware. Some Debian packages have a link to it, therefore this is a security issue
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14:07<sney>I agree, that's too bad, make sure to include this information in your bug report where the package maintainers will see it. I believe there is a bts flag you can add that will automatically copy the security team
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14:37<mikolajw>there are several KiCad packages that have this URL, do I have to submit one bug to each one?
14:37<somiaj>mikolajw: do they all come from the same source package?
14:38<somiaj>https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kicad
14:38<mikolajw>I'm not too familiar with Debian terminology, but I think not
14:38<somiaj>that is the kicad source package, which all the binary packages it creates are listed under binaries in the bottom left column
14:39<somiaj>usually source package = single upstream source, that often gets separated into multiple binary packages
14:39<mikolajw>alright, that would mean they probably indeed come from the same source package
14:39<somiaj>I think you can file a bug against the source package.
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14:40<somiaj>mikolajw: also if you have a fix, you might be able to send a commit to https://salsa.debian.org/electronics-team/KiCad/kicad to help out
14:40<sney>you can, and in any case, it seems to be the same uploaders so just write e.g. "include any other kicad packages I may have missed" in the body of your email
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14:40<somiaj>though I think a patch in the bts is the prefered way
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14:40<sney>most teams still want a bug report even if the fix is submitted via salsa
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14:41<somiaj>yea, the bug report is still needed, but a patch can help things out a ton
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15:18<mikolajw>ok, sent it
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15:52<boud>I'm trying https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio#Dynamically_enable.2Fdisable on bullseye (the file /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.pulse/99-pulseaudio-default.conf.example is absent). After doing that, and killing and restarting pulseaudio a few times, 'pactl info' gives me 'auto_null*' for the default sink and source, instead of the sink I have in ~/.config/pulse/client.conf . Do the 'dpkg-divert's prevent
15:52<boud>pulseaudio from reading ~/.config/pulse/client.conf? Or is there another explanation?
15:56<boud>pactl list sinks # no longer finds my usual sink
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16:03<boud>dpkg-divert is nicely invertible with '--rename --remove' - I can't complain about that...
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16:09<utf8>outsider here
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16:18<Sqrt{not}>utf8, welcome in
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16:29<utf8>thx i guess
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16:32<kveroneau>In some programming languages utf8 is an outsider, or at least an after thought.
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16:36<SignumFera>Hi All, I am trying to compile Linphone on a Debian 11 however I am getting an ld error about overridden definitions. The compile works fine on Ubuntu 21.04
16:37<SignumFera>https://paste.debian.net/1216225
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16:41<sarnold>SignumFera: sunrpc stuff moved out of glibc and into libtirpc a while ago, https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Toolchain/Glibc_2.26_porting_notes/RPC_implementation has some notes on this
16:43<SignumFera>sarnold: Am I correct in understanding you that this is actually something Linphone should solve by including the updated headers?
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16:46<sarnold>SignumFera: I'm not actually sure what the correct solution is. :( maybe it's a matter of telling the linphone build to skip the libtirpc library, or maybe it's a matter of bug report with debian .. I think I would have expected libtirpc to be installed only on systems where glibc doesn't provide the symbol, but I could be wrong
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16:47<Tenkawa>SignumFera: what version of linphone are you trying to compile? looks like 4.2.5 is in bullseye
16:47<Tenkawa>are you trying to add functionality?
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16:47<SignumFera>Tenkawa: Linphone 4.3
16:47<Tenkawa>ah
16:47<SignumFera>Yeah, I kinda need g729
16:48<SignumFera>Plus 4.3's attended transfer is a huge plus as well
16:48<Tenkawa>let me see what happens if I try to build a package of it on my dev env
16:49<SignumFera>Can I give you the cmake commands I went with?
16:49<Tenkawa>sure
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16:49<Tenkawa>msg me if you like
16:49<Tenkawa>if its too spammy for channel
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22:07<chuck>hello
22:07<chuck> anyone on?
22:07<sarnold>pong
22:08<chuck>looking to upgrade to bullseye, not sure how to backup my nice buster install
22:09<chuck>or more specifically, what upgrading will/wont break and what needs to be backed up.
22:09<sarnold>I've never bothered to backup the 'os', only ever /home etc
22:10<sarnold>on the theory that replacing the operating system is way easier than replacing my data
22:10<sarnold>sometimes it's handy to make a copy of /etc and of course if you've got data in /var/www or other places, it's nice to grab those too
22:11<chuck>so will an upgrade wipe the hard drive?
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22:11<Hooloovoo>you can usually upgrade without wiping, though apt-get dist-upgrade
22:12<Hooloovoo>you shouldn't need a re-install at all
22:12<sarnold>usually things just work fine
22:12<sarnold>but backups are never a bad idea
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22:13<chuck>roger that. ill have to get my stuff backed up just to be sure i dont lose anything super important
22:14<chuck>this D10 install has just been running flawlessly for so l9ng that 8ve accumulated neato stuff lol
22:14<chuck>i run it exclusively via VNC via my Galaxy X Fold 3
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22:17<chuck>exit
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22:43<hant1216>Debian is running qt with the background set to transparent but it's black, anyone?
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22:45<sussudio>maybe the backbackground is black.
22:46<hant1216>backbackground can be to change?
22:47<sussudio>no. it is the emptiness of existence.
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22:50<hant1216>In other words, can I change the background to my own image?
22:50<hant1216>Or change the opacity of the background?
22:51<hant1216>The Debian system I'm using doesn't have desktop administration installed, just the command line
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23:01<aloo_shu>where's qt coming from, then
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23:10<hant1216>qt5 for arm
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23:13<Sqrt{not}>i qt5ct
23:13<Sqrt{not}>,i qt5ct
23:13<judd>Package qt5ct (utils, optional) in bullseye/amd64: Qt5 Configuration Utility. Version: 1.1-1+b2; Size: 182.4k; Installed: 841k; Homepage: https://sourceforge.net/projects/qt5ct/; Screenshot: https://screenshots.debian.net/package/qt5ct
23:14<Sqrt{not}>hant1216, maybe install qt5ct
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23:17<hant1216>Don't you have this problem using this version of QT in the same scenario?
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