Back to Home / #debian / 2021 / 10 / Prev Day | Next Day
#debian IRC Logs for 2021-10-28

---Logopened Thu Oct 28 00:00:39 2021
00:01-!-simonpatapon [simon@patapon.lol] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:01-!-simonpatapon [simon@patapon.lol] has joined #debian
00:01-!-simonpatapon is "Simon Patapon" on #debian-quebec #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
00:03-!-tizef [~tizef@202.153.81.220] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:06-!-Sleepy63 [~Sleepy63@0002b8ea.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:06-!-Sleepy63 is "Sleepy63" on #debian
00:06-!-Zauberfisch [~Zauberfis@0002c163.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
00:07-!-Zauberfisch [~Zauberfis@62.240.152.166] has joined #debian
00:07-!-Zauberfisch is "Zauberfisch" on #debian #virt @#zauberfisch #bitlbee
00:10-!-pdt-arnold_oree [~arnoldore@3.183.93.209.dyn.plus.net] has joined #debian
00:10-!-pdt-arnold_oree is "Arnold Opio Oree" on #virt #debian-tech #debian
00:14-!-RedSoxFan07 [~Thunderbi@d-159-250-218-50.ct.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has joined #debian
00:14-!-RedSoxFan07 is "RedSoxFan07" on #debian-next #debian
00:17-!-euandreh [~euandreh@2804:14c:33:9fe5:ece1:b35e:c9b0:1b9e] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.3]
00:17-!-euandreh [~euandreh@2804:14c:33:9fe5:ece1:b35e:c9b0:1b9e] has joined #debian
00:17-!-euandreh is "EuAndreh" on #debian-devel-br #OpenBSD #pax #perl #suckless #C #pipewire #fdroid #mesonbuild #haiku #po4a @#debian-18n #debian
00:20-!-mimi89999 [cb2cbfa643@89-72-190-170.dynamic.chello.pl] has left #debian [Disconnected: Received SIGTERM]
00:20-!-mimi89999 [cb2cbfa643@89-72-190-170.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
00:20-!-mimi89999 is "mimi89999" on #debian-voip #debian #postmarketos-devel
00:21-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:21-!-pavlushka is "Pavel Sayekat" on #debian #oftc
00:23-!-cpaelzer [~paelzer@007-135-067-156.ip-addr.inexio.net] has joined #debian
00:23-!-cpaelzer is "Christian Ehrhardt" on #zkvm #virt #debian-qemu #debian
00:24-!-cpaelzer_ [~paelzer@037-142-067-156.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:25-!-knolle [~blah@00021d80.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:27-!-tizef [~tizef@202.153.81.220] has joined #debian
00:27-!-tizef is "realname" on #mini-DebConf-fr #debian-nantes #debianfr #pulseaudio #debian-qemu #debian-offtopic #3hg #nakedeb #debian-next #debian
00:33-!-knolle [~blah@00021d80.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:33-!-knolle is "me" on #debian #virt #alpine-devel #alpine-linux #vbox #tor
00:40-!-jm_ [flier@000125af.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
00:40-!-jm_ is "." on #debian
00:42-!-oztunan [~oztunan@oztunan.org] has joined #debian
00:42-!-oztunan is "oztunan" on #debian-next #debian-php #debian
00:42-!-oztunan [~oztunan@oztunan.org] has quit []
00:43-!-tizef [~tizef@202.153.81.220] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:50-!-richardm75 [~richardm7@2600:8801:c50a:9f00:c0a8:b55d:62b4:fd49] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:51-!-NomadJim [~Jim@2001:5b0:2d53:92b8:14d3:705c:8a9e:dac9] has joined #debian
00:51-!-NomadJim is "Nomad" on #debian #linode
00:55-!-bitblit [~bitblit@4G4AAEI26.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
00:59-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
00:59-!-f10 is "f10" on #debian-kde #debian
00:59-!-kveroneau [kveroneau@node1.veroneau.net] has quit [Quit: Follow my Nick on Twitter and YouTube!]
01:05-!-pi1234 [~pi@192.142.100.50] has quit []
01:05-!-johnjay [~pi@192.142.100.50] has joined #debian
01:05-!-johnjay is "pi" on #vbox #debian #msys2
01:06-!-bitblit [~bitblit@4G4AAEK4G.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
01:06-!-bitblit is "bitblit" on #nouveau #pipewire #tor #debian
01:07-!-johnjay [~pi@192.142.100.50] has quit []
01:09-!-johnjay [~pi@192.142.100.50] has joined #debian
01:09-!-johnjay is "pi" on #vbox #debian #msys2
01:16-!-RedSoxFan07 [~Thunderbi@d-159-250-218-50.ct.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Quit: RedSoxFan07]
01:19-!-A|an [~Alan@173.216.51.200] has quit [Quit: A|an]
01:28-!-SZO [~anon@192.30.89.67] has joined #debian
01:28-!-SZO is "anon" on #debian-next #debian
01:28-!-aidalgol [~aidalgol@0001a1b7.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
01:28-!-aidalgol is "Aidan Gauland" on #debian #tor
01:30-!-aidalgol_ [~aidalgol@125-238-170-116-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
01:38-!-ashwinik [~ashwinika@78.40.148.171] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
01:38-!-ashwinik [~ashwinika@78.40.148.171] has joined #debian
01:38-!-ashwinik is "Ashwini Kammar" on #debian
01:43*tjcarter grumbles that both Qt and GTK+ now literally use CSS to describe their widgets' every feature, and yet they can't manage to figure it out so that themes are cross-compatible.
01:44<tjcarter>I know I know, #debian-rant, symlinked to /dev/null 😁
01:46-!-ibx2496 [~FE865@193.32.249.171] has joined #debian
01:46-!-ibx2496 is "realname" on #debian @#linuxmint #alpine-linux #alpine-devel #postmarketos-offtopic #postmarketos-devel #postmarketos
01:46-!-wytchmaster [~wytchmast@groupware.proxion.de] has joined #debian
01:46-!-wytchmaster is "Andreas " on #debian
01:48-!-em_ [~eugenmaye@pd95da41c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
01:48-!-em_ is "realname" on #debian
01:50-!-lonewulf` [~lonewulf@00020897.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
01:56-!-tizef [~tizef@202.153.81.220] has joined #debian
01:56-!-tizef is "realname" on #mini-DebConf-fr #debian-nantes #debianfr #pulseaudio #debian-qemu #debian-offtopic #3hg #nakedeb #debian-next #debian
02:03-!-em__ [~eugenmaye@pd95da41c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
02:03-!-em__ is "realname" on #debian
02:05-!-Ericounet [~Eric@2a01:e0a:d0:3c20:b13b:aa54:5acc:dbc5] has joined #debian
02:05-!-Ericounet is "realname" on #freedombox #debian
02:14-!-bullgard4 [~bullgard4@dslb-094-222-242-212.094.222.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #debian
02:14-!-bullgard4 is "realname" on #debian #bluez #kernelnewbies #debian-next
02:16-!-otisolsen70 [~otisolsen@xd4ed80b5.cust.hiper.dk] has joined #debian
02:16-!-otisolsen70 is "realname" on #vbox #bash #debian-nordic #debian #packaging
02:17-!-seednode6 [~seednode@seedno.de] has quit []
02:17-!-calcmandan [~quassel@00026782.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world]
02:17-!-callmepk [~callmepk@n1164989236.netvigator.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
02:17-!-seednode6 [~seednode@seedno.de] has joined #debian
02:17-!-seednode6 is "seednode" on #debian #alpine-linux
02:18-!-is0ke3 [~is0ke3@0002bb50.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
02:18-!-is0ke3 is "is0ke3" on #tor #debian
02:19-!-calcmandan [~quassel@67.159.143.134] has joined #debian
02:19-!-calcmandan is "Daniel" on #oftc #debian #smoothwall
02:20-!-jpw [~jpw@cpc146708-rdng28-2-0-cust213.15-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:24-!-mrwick [~mrwick@185.78.180.133] has joined #debian
02:24-!-mrwick is "mrwick" on #debian-next #debian
02:29-!-callmepk is "Patrick Wu" on #alpine-linux #linode
02:29-!-callmepk [~callmepk@n1164989236.netvigator.com] has joined #debian
02:31-!-texou [~jp@000178ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:32-!-zedki [~zedki@184.100.77.239] has joined #debian
02:32-!-zedki is "realname" on #debian
02:32-!-zedki [~zedki@184.100.77.239] has quit []
02:33-!-zedki is "realname" on #debian
02:33-!-zedki [~zedki@184.100.77.239] has joined #debian
02:33<jelly>tjcarter: that channel actually exists
02:34<tjcarter>jelly: It might be getting a lot of use after Alder Lake drops.
02:34<tjcarter>From both people who manage to buy one.
02:35-!-dbristow_ [~dbristow@ool-18bc41a3.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #debian
02:35-!-dbristow_ is "realname" on #debian
02:36-!-zedki [~zedki@184.100.77.239] has quit []
02:37-!-Despatche [~desp@72.11.37.193] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer]
02:38-!-dbristow [~dbristow@ool-18bc41a3.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:38<tomreyn>you mean Intel big.LITTLE
02:38-!-stylesen__ [~stylesen@59.98.58.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:43-!-awal1 [~awal1@bras-base-mtrlpq0315w-grc-23-70-55-160-158.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
02:43-!-aby [~aby@2a02:6680:2130:acb5:fb8e:a18:a334:2ae6] has joined #debian
02:43-!-aby is "Aby" on #debian
02:43-!-NTduck [~NTduck@62.157.166.162] has joined #debian
02:43-!-NTduck is "dduck" on #debian
02:44<tjcarter>I can only say that they put a dual embargo on the product.
02:44-!-ao2 [~ao2@host-82-53-75-227.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian
02:44-!-ao2 is "ao2" on #linux-media #gstreamer #vcs-home #debian #cell
02:45<tjcarter>I don't have one, but … that's usually a good sign there are things they don't want you to know about.
02:45<bentham>Wasn't that embargo lifted on Monday?
02:45-!-mezzo [~mezzo@176-141-171-88.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #debian
02:45-!-mezzo is "mezzo" on #debian @#lichess #yuming
02:46<tjcarter>bentham: dual embargo. They can show it but they can't show performance/benchmarks until the day you can buy one.
02:46<tjcarter>That might have been monday I don't know
02:46<tjcarter>I haven't seen any actual benchmarks.
02:47<bentham>Sounds like the launch is scheduled for next Thursday.
02:47<tjcarter>But they lefted ONE embargo Monday so you can see their fancy press kits and whatnot.
02:47-!-erle- [~stephan@2a04:ee41:3:3297:870d:c9dc:1b9c:88f8] has joined #debian
02:47-!-erle- is "Stephan" on #debian-next #debian #debian-raspberrypi
02:48<tjcarter>(which, big deal, I'm not getting one of those kits even if I buy it on launch day…)
02:49<tjcarter>If they don't want you to have benchmarks before it's basically sold out, they want you to make your buying decision based on hype. The dual embargo further cements that. They're playing games. AMD does it too, and so do the rest of the companies. It's just always because they're hiding things that they do it.
02:52-!-callmepk [~callmepk@n1164989236.netvigator.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:52-!-awal1 [~awal1@bras-base-mtrlpq0315w-grc-23-70-55-160-158.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
02:52-!-awal1 is "realname" on #debian-devel-changes #debian-next #debian
02:57<jelly>hant1216: which version is it, though? does this "qt5 for arm" come from debian.org or somewhere else? Does it work on X or wayland or framebuffer or GLES or what?
02:58-!-hbautista [~hbautista@187.171.78.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:01<sussudio>jelly: and why is he in this #armlinux channel
03:03-!-richard_h [~richard@2406:e001:8:a900:6e62:6dff:fe05:ae29] has joined #debian
03:03-!-richard_h is "purple" on #debian
03:05-!-mr_ab [~nezzario@74-207-237-112.ip.linodeusercontent.com] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat]
03:06-!-mr_ab [~nezzario@bnc.ab.hl9.net] has joined #debian
03:06-!-mr_ab is "Something Clever..." on #debian
03:06-!-mr_ab [~nezzario@bnc.ab.hl9.net] has left #debian []
03:06-!-_Matth_ [~Matth@133.140.5.103.wi-fi.wi2.ne.jp] has joined #debian
03:06-!-_Matth_ is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
03:07-!-skitt [~skitt@82-65-25-201.subs.proxad.net] has joined #debian
03:07-!-skitt is "realname" on #debian
03:07-!-phunyguy [~blaahchm@h96-61-21-149.kgldga.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:09-!-mimi89999 [cb2cbfa643@89-72-190-170.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: Gateway shutdown]
03:12<bentham>tjcarter: I suppose hype is a powerful motivator for clueless humans, including corporate managers who need the excuse to justify extra spending.
03:15<tjcarter>bentham: it's an effective motivator for humans in general, which is why they do it. I'm basically "broken" for normal media consumption. Any media I see, I have to ask: What does this want me to think/feel/believe. Is the information true, the whole truth, and was what truth there is cherry-picked to support any particular agenda? As you can imagine, the past $timespan has been … a
03:15-!-mimi89999 [cb2cbfa643@89-72-190-170.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
03:15-!-mimi89999 is "mimi89999" on #postmarketos-devel #debian
03:15<tjcarter>strain.
03:15-!-SignumFera [~Thunderbi@165.16.203.122] has joined #debian
03:15-!-SignumFera is "Ian Coetzee" on #debian
03:18<tjcarter>I'm actually getting pretty excited about LVGL: https://github.com/lvgl/lvgl
03:19<tjcarter>That looks like a great little UI for embedded ARM devices
03:20-!-_Matth_ [~Matth@133.140.5.103.wi-fi.wi2.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:20-!-kts [~kts@103.73.237.201] has joined #debian
03:20-!-kts is "Kyaw Thu Soe" on #debian #debian-offtopic #suse-peeps #tor-project #dri-devel #debian-kde #C #debian-next #tor
03:22-!-zamuro [~Samantha@62.83.255.182.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
03:22-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on @#debian-ve #debian
03:22-!-phunyguy [~blaahchm@h96-61-21-149.kgldga.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #debian
03:22-!-phunyguy is "Phuny Guy" on #debian #ceph #ovirt
03:23-!-twb [~twb@2403-5804-c6--add.ip6.aussiebb.net] has joined #debian
03:23-!-twb is "Trent W. Buck" on #debian #debian-rant
03:24<twb>Can "apt-ftparchive generate" do gpg signing?
03:24<twb>(Yes, I know I should use one of the 4 other options)
03:27-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:33<twb>Based on my notes from 6 months ago, no, I just call gpg --sign after Release is made
03:35-!-uos [~AdminUser@111.207.172.18] has joined #debian
03:35-!-uos is "Quassel IRC 用户" on #debian
03:35-!-uos [~AdminUser@111.207.172.18] has quit []
03:37<twb>Sigh: https://sources.debian.org/src/mini-dinstall/0.7.0/examples/sign-release.sh/
03:38<twb>https://github.com/guillemj/mini-dak/blob/2f4d81fbd180358fa18a881ce04a7571254b867c/archive-reindex-meta#L54 looks a little cleaner
03:39-!-dokakuryu [~fudgespin@171.7.238.23] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
03:39<ansgar>twb: Cleaner as is "missing important options like --batch and does not write InRelease"? :)
03:40-!-bullgard4 [~bullgard4@dslb-094-222-242-212.094.222.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:40<twb>Megasigh: https://sources.debian.org/src/reprepro/5.3.0-1.3/signedfile.c/#L50-L52
03:40<twb>ansgar: exactly :/
03:41<twb>ansgar: what I'd really like is something equivalent go "wg genkey >secret; wg pubkey <secret >pubkey; sign secret Release"
03:42<twb>ansgar: if you're curious this is my in-house equivalent http://ix.io/2Sdg
03:45<ansgar>twb: I like that mini-dinstall's script you linked calls `chown` (so presumably runs as root), then calls `gpg` as root.
03:46<twb>I confess my thing is also running as root... I think
03:47-!-texou [~jp@000178ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
03:47-!-texou is "Stoicien" on #debian-nonupload #hyprateam #debian-i18n #bitlbee #debian-next #debian #debian-devel-es #debian-devel-it #debian-a11y
03:50<twb>Please select what kind of key you want: (1) RSA and RSA (default) (2) DSA and Elgamal (3) DSA (sign only) (4) RSA (sign only) (14) Existing key from card
03:50<twb>srsly, where the fuck is Ed25519? This is on Debian 11, not Debian 6
03:50<twb>Is it STILL hidden behind a secret option?
03:51<ansgar>twb: Hidden behind --expert
03:51<twb>FFS
03:52<twb>Probably like 1 of the 3 people who thanklessly maintain gpg has decided that _all_ EC is wrong
03:52<ansgar>Haha, gpg even has error messages like "Name must be at least 5 characters long" when using --gen-key
03:53-!-chele [~chele@00022067.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
03:53-!-chele is "chele" on #mesonbuild #debian-next #debian
03:54<twb>does apt (i.e. gpgv) support ed25519?
03:54-!-m_g_lewis [~melvin@2601:541:8202:33d0:8a51:fbff:fe48:1e94] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
03:56<twb>How do I turn a pubring.kbx back into the legacy v4 pubring.gpg like debian-archive-keyring uses?
03:56<twb>(Or can I just ship the pubring.kbx as-is? I remember .asc didn't work a while ago
03:58-!-toto_ [~toto@5.146.194.60] has joined #debian
03:58-!-toto_ is "realname" on #debian-next #debian
04:02-!-devuan [~devuan@93-47-225-250.ip114.fastwebnet.it] has joined #debian
04:02-!-devuan is "realname" on #debian
04:03-!-devuan [~devuan@93-47-225-250.ip114.fastwebnet.it] has quit []
04:06-!-hendursa1 [~weechat@7YZAAD4F9.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:06-!-hendursa1 is "weechat" on #po4a #consfigurator #wayland #robigalia #debian #postmarketos #kernelnewbies
04:11-!-hendursaga [~weechat@4G4AAEK2E.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:13-!-arunpyasi [~arunpyasi@2407:5200:400:4930:c4f1:92f0:50fd:b13f] has joined #debian
04:13-!-arunpyasi is "realname" on #packaging #debian-ubuntu #debian #debian-deepin
04:14-!-arunpyasi [~arunpyasi@2407:5200:400:4930:c4f1:92f0:50fd:b13f] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
04:18-!-awal1 [~awal1@bras-base-mtrlpq0315w-grc-23-70-55-160-158.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
04:20<twb>hahaha: --make-debugging-harder --make-slower-for-no-reason
04:20<twb>I guess I was especially cranky that day
04:25-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:25-!-pavlushka is "Pavel Sayekat" on #debian #oftc
04:26-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@00014f22.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:26-!-Blacker47 is "Blacker47" on #debian-next #debian
04:27-!-_Matth_ [~Matth@148.140.5.103.wi-fi.wi2.ne.jp] has joined #debian
04:27-!-_Matth_ is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
04:27-!-ach [~spo@ip-109-43-48-85.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:28-!-xust [~xust@119.4.240.125] has quit [Quit: 离开]
04:28-!-kts [~kts@103.73.237.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:32-!-Dimitris [~dimitris@core.acn.gr] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
04:33-!-czesmir_ [~stefan@aeao159.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #debian
04:33-!-czesmir_ is "Stefan" on #debian-next #debian
04:34-!-timur_davletshin [~timur_dav@0002b842.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
04:35-!-timur_davletshin [~timur_dav@0002b842.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
04:35-!-timur_davletshin is "Timur Davletshin" on #tor #oftc #debian
04:37-!-Dimitris [~dimitris@core.acn.gr] has joined #debian
04:37-!-Dimitris is "Unknown" on #debian #oftc
04:37-!-abdulocracy1 [~meabduloc@83.24.123.148.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:40-!-czesmir [~stefan@aeaf32.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:41-!-bullgard4 [~bullgard4@dslb-094-223-001-031.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #debian
04:41-!-bullgard4 is "realname" on #debian-next #kernelnewbies #bluez #debian
04:45-!-Slashman [~Slash@cosium-fo-152-18.fib.nerim.net] has joined #debian
04:45-!-Slashman is "Slash" on #debian
04:47-!-abdulocracy1 [~meabduloc@83.24.123.148.ipv4.supernova.orange.pl] has joined #debian
04:47-!-abdulocracy1 is "@me:abdulocra.cy" on #debian
04:50-!-Brigo_ [~Brigo@40.181.60.213.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
04:50-!-Brigo_ is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
04:51-!-toto_ [~toto@5.146.194.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:52<Tj>twb: did you solve the kbx > .gpg (for apt) because I gave a solution for that very recently
04:52-!-is0ke3 [~is0ke3@0002bb50.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
04:54<twb>Tj: I didn't solve it; I didn't see your solution either.
04:54<twb>I got distractd here by the rsync thing in #systemd, and then got distracted from that by zfs refquota=none
04:54<twb>:-)
04:55<Tj>ansgar: I hit the "at least 5 characters long" issue many years ago. Initially I altered the source, but then they were nice and added the "--allow-freeform-uid" for me -my real name is just 2 characters long
04:55<Tj>twb: I'll try to find out where I wrote about it!
04:55<twb>Tj: is it pronounces "psmith"?
04:55<twb>*pronounced
04:56<Tj>twb: ahh, I recall now, it was for weechat and I noted it in an issue there. let me find it
04:57<Tj>twb: https://github.com/weechat/weechat.org/issues/107#issuecomment-950307765
04:58<Tj>twb: so basically, export the key :)
04:59<twb>That's kinda hard to read
04:59<twb>Let me try it
05:01-!-toto_ [~toto@5.146.194.60] has joined #debian
05:01-!-toto_ is "realname" on #debian-next #debian
05:02<twb>It looks like you're *downloading* a key from a keyserver, which isn't A Thing anymore.
05:02<twb>And then you're not specifying a format at all, you're juts doing --keyring and that *somehow* makes it choose legacy keyring format?
05:02-!-CryptoSiD` [~SiD@RedPilled.Disciple.of.KeKistan.faith] has joined #debian
05:02-!-CryptoSiD` is "SiD" on #debian
05:02<Tj>twb: that's how weechat devs do it
05:03<Tj>twb: huh?
05:04<Tj>twb: no, gpgp 2.x creates a kbox keyring so the key is imported into a temporary keyrign, then exported which gives the indivdual key
05:04<twb>oh that wasn't at all obvious to me
05:05<Tj>twb: I condensed the 2 operations into a for() loop to save repetition for a one-liner, but broke it down for easier parsing
05:06<twb>I still can't get it to work for me
05:06<twb>http://ix.io/3D8Z
05:07-!-CryptoSiD [SiD@RedPilled.Disciple.of.KeKistan.faith] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:07-!-CryptoSiD` is now known as CryptoSiD
05:07-!-cpaelzer_ [~paelzer@2001:67c:1560:8007::aac:c4ad] has joined #debian
05:07-!-cpaelzer_ is "Christian Ehrhardt" on #zkvm #virt #debian-qemu #debian
05:09<twb>Tj: were you testing this with gpg 2.2 ?
05:09<twb>Tj: for OLDER versions, what you tried makes sense
05:11-!-cpaelzer [~paelzer@007-135-067-156.ip-addr.inexio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:14<twb>hrm
05:15<twb>I can reproduce it if I run your code in a clean dir
05:15<twb>so maybe the difference is weechat uses a crap old key
05:20<Tj>what is a 'crap old key' ?
05:20<Tj>twb: v2.2.27
05:20<twb>Tj: RSA
05:23<twb>Tj: here's a complete comparison, with it working for you and failing with a fresh key for me: http://ix.io/3D97
05:24-!-zamuro [~Samantha@00017244.user.oftc.net] has left #debian [[IRSSI]]
05:24-!-greknod [~grek@0002cc1f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:26-!-pervaya [~pervaya@ip250.ip-51-83-183.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:26<twb>I've asked #gnupg about it. In the meantime I'll try feeding mmdebstrap an --export --armor "PGP public key block Public-Key (old)" format and see what happens
05:29-!-a0z [~a0z@90.244.129.8] has joined #debian
05:29-!-a0z is "realname" on #debian #debian-next #moocows #debian-offtopic #virt
05:30-!-__Matth__ [~Matth@KD106146044105.au-net.ne.jp] has joined #debian
05:30-!-__Matth__ is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
05:31<twb>haha gpg: failed to create temporary file '/etc/cyber-apt-ftparchive-generate/.#lk0x000055c06fd265b0.heavy.2760232': Read-only file system
05:31<twb>Time to amend ReadWritePaths
05:34-!-}ls{ [~kalle@000199a5.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
05:34-!-}ls{ is "nobody" on #kvm #debian-nginx #debian-lan #debian-kde #debian-django #debian
05:35-!-_Matth_ [~Matth@148.140.5.103.wi-fi.wi2.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:36<Tj>twb: in the case of using 'file' maybe the magic database hasn't been updated to recognise and report something sensible for the output format?
05:36-!-pa [~smuxi@86-95-132-61.fixed.kpn.net] has joined #debian
05:36-!-pa is "Your Name" on #debian
05:36<twb>Tj: but the goal is to emit something gpgv can read
05:36<twb>and AIUI that means it must be the *old* format, so file should know about it
05:38-!-jandr [~quassel@188.127.180.100] has joined #debian
05:38-!-jandr is "jandr" on #debian #openstreetmap #virt
05:38<Tj>right, but gpgv doesn't rely on magic does it? gpgv comes from the same source as gpg so it ought to be fine
05:39<Tj>I don't see any call to gpgv in your example
05:40<twb>I didn't test that part
05:40<twb>I probably should have
05:41<Tj>nor me - doing other stuff right now :)
05:41-!-mahmoud [~mahmoud@41.222.180.108] has joined #debian
05:41-!-mahmoud is "realname" on #debian
05:41-!-mahmoud [~mahmoud@41.222.180.108] has quit []
05:45<twb>OK guess what
05:46<twb>It seems non-armored format, which file doesn't recognize, DOES work for at least gpgv run by and
05:46-!-lukaso666 [~lukaso666@109.95.146.4] has joined #debian
05:46-!-lukaso666 is "lukaso666" on #debian
05:48-!-stylesen_ [~stylesen@117.221.0.255] has joined #debian
05:48-!-stylesen_ is "stylesen" on #debian #debian-india
05:48<twb>20:46 <twb> http://ix.io/3D9e
05:48<twb>20:48 <twb> apt doesn't accept it, though: E: Invalid value set for option Signed-By regarding source https://apt.cyber.com.au/PrisonPC/ buster (not a fingerprint)
05:49<Tj>twb: is that due to the library version (i notice 'buster' there) ?
05:49<twb>ah no sorry
05:49<twb>I just had a repo containing buster debs already around
05:49<twb>I'm actually testing on bullseye->mmdebstrap->bullseye
05:50<twb>and the signing server that runs apt-ftparchive generate and gpg --clearsign is also bullseye
05:50<Tj>invalid option Signed-By is about the "deb [Signed-by=...] isn't it?
05:50<twb>right
05:50<twb>Maybe I'm using that wrong, let me read some more docs
05:50<Tj>so apt can't resolve the key from the provided ID?
05:51<twb>I'm providing a path
05:51<twb>https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/mmdebstrap/mmdebstrap.1.en.html#keyring
05:51-!-neemeesiis [~n3m3s1s@4G4AAEK93.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
05:51-!-neemeesiis is "nemesis" on #debian #fdroid #tor #oftc #ceph #alpine-linux #linux #C #perl #apertium #OpenBSD #i2p #retroshare
05:51<Tj>weechat in their existing instructions show "deb [signed-by=/usr/local/share/keyrings/weechat-archive-keyring.gpg] ..."
05:53-!-Ericounet [~Eric@2a01:e0a:d0:3c20:b13b:aa54:5acc:dbc5] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:54<twb>So I did ssh root@apt.cyber.com.au 'gpg --homedir=/etc/cyber-apt-ftparchive-generate/ --export 10798D51B3A8CC8F9175FB185D59528D872AB326' >pubring.gpg
05:54<twb>Then I did mmdebstrap bullseye /dev/null https://deb.debian.org/debian 'deb [signed-by=public-key.gpg] https://apt.cyber.com.au/PrisonPC buster server desktop'
05:54<twb>It fails immediately with apt (outside the chroot) complaining "(not a fingerprint)"
05:55-!-__Matth__ [~Matth@KD106146044105.au-net.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
05:55-!-dokakuryu [~fudgespin@2403:6200:8880:133d:d227:88ff:fe64:f46b] has joined #debian
05:55-!-dokakuryu is "Abe Mackenzie" on #oftc #debian-rant #debian-offtopic #debian
06:00-!-jj5 [~jj5@111-220-243-3.dyn.dodo.net.au] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
06:00<jandr>twb, if you do something like "gpg public-key.gpg" does it list the key inside it?
06:01<jandr>(or the pubring.gpg you exported using the command you ran via ssh)
06:02<jandr>(or the pubring.gpg you exported using the command you ran via ssh)
06:02-!-jj5 [~jj5@111-220-243-3.dyn.dodo.net.au] has joined #debian
06:02-!-jj5 is "jj5" on #freedombox-ci #freedombox-dev #debian-raspberrypi #freedombox #debian-kde #debian
06:05<twb>SUCCESS
06:05<Tj>twb: filenames are different, did you rename?
06:05<twb>You have to use an absolute path
06:05<twb>f'deb [signed-by={pathlib.Path.cwd()}/debian-11-PrisonPC.packages/public-key.gpg] https://apt.cyber.com.au/PrisonPC buster server desktop'
06:05<jandr>makes sense :)
06:06<twb>And yeah sorry about the mismatched literals earlier
06:06<twb>it's past my bedtime and I was doing a bad job of trying to simplify out the boring bits
06:10-!-dselect [~dselect@dselect.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ouch... that hurt]
06:10-!-flappy [~flappy@91-154-3-200.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:11-!-dselect [~dselect@dselect.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
06:11-!-dselect is "dpkg backup readonly db" on #debian
06:13-!-CryptoSiD [~SiD@RedPilled.Disciple.of.KeKistan.faith] has quit [Quit: .]
06:16-!-CryptoSiD [SiD@RedPilled.Disciple.of.KeKistan.faith] has joined #debian
06:16-!-CryptoSiD is "SiD" on #debian
06:18-!-Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has joined #debian
06:18-!-Haudegen is "AP,,," on #security #debian-next #debian.or.at #debian
06:19-!-scholar [~AdminUser@103.109.92.76] has joined #debian
06:19-!-scholar is "scholar" on #debian
06:22-!-scholar [~AdminUser@103.109.92.76] has quit []
06:29-!-erle- [~stephan@2a04:ee41:3:3297:870d:c9dc:1b9c:88f8] has quit []
06:33-!-futune [~futune@95.82.135.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:34-!-ac_laptop [~ac_laptop@2a01:cb1c:3c8:2700:e29d:31ff:fe2d:a258] has joined #debian
06:34-!-ac_laptop is "ac_laptop" on #odamex @#blasphemer #packaging #debian-next #debian
06:34-!-chuangzh1 [~chuangzhu@27.39.221.241] has joined #debian
06:34-!-chuangzh1 is "Chuang Zhu" on #ustclug #debian
06:35-!-chuangzhu [~chuangzhu@0002c2e8.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
06:37-!-futune [~futune@95.82.135.11] has joined #debian
06:37-!-futune is "realname" on #postmarketos #alpine-linux #debian
06:43-!-zamuro [~Samantha@62.83.255.182.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
06:43-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on @#debian-ve #debian
06:44-!-em_ [~eugenmaye@pd95da41c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
06:50-!-driib957605710768814384566667 [~driib@185.65.135.160] has joined #debian
06:50-!-driib957605710768814384566667 is "Andrew" on #debian
06:54-!-endstille [~Miranda@94.31.101.100] has joined #debian
06:54-!-endstille is "marc.brinkmann@gmail.com" on #debian
06:55-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:56-!-bullgard4 [~bullgard4@dslb-094-223-001-031.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
06:57-!-driib95760571076881438456666 [~driib@185.65.135.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
06:58-!-dokakuryu [~fudgespin@2403:6200:8880:133d:d227:88ff:fe64:f46b] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: buh bye!]
07:05-!-dpkg [~dpkg@dpkg.bot.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:05-!-dpkg is "apt backup" on #debian
07:07-!-callmepk [~callmepk@n1164989236.netvigator.com] has joined #debian
07:07-!-callmepk is "Patrick Wu" on #debian #linode #debian-wsl
07:10-!-mrckndt [~mrckndt@0002bee6.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: mrckndt]
07:10-!-mrckndt [~mrckndt@0002bee6.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:10-!-mrckndt is "MK" on #debian
07:17-!-Gombye [~Gombye@8L3AAFLNB.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:22-!-Gombye [~Gombye@8VQAAEKS6.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:22-!-Gombye is "Gombye" on #tor-uncensored #debian #monero #tor
07:24-!-robobox [~robobox@173.209.106.238] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
07:25-!-Chaotic [~Booda@8VQAAEKS8.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:25-!-Chaotic is "user" on #oftc #Qubes_OS #debian
07:27-!-Chaotic [~Booda@8VQAAEKS8.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:29-!-lyr [~lyr@51.158.150.126] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat]
07:31-!-Chaotic [~Booda@4G4AAELBG.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:31-!-Chaotic is "user" on #oftc #Qubes_OS #debian
07:34-!-lyr [~lyr@51.158.150.126] has joined #debian
07:34-!-lyr is "lyr" on #debian @#cypress #cozycloud
07:38-!-anon [~anon@0BGAAFFOC.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:38-!-anon is "realname" on #debian
07:42-!-anon [~anon@0BGAAFFOC.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:42-!-anon [~anon@p4fe15062.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
07:42-!-anon is "realname" on #debian
07:43-!-anon [~anon@p4fe15062.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit []
07:43-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:43-!-dvs is "realname" on #debian
07:50-!-adam12 [~adam12@70.33.210.238] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat]
07:51-!-adam12 [~adam12@70.33.210.238] has joined #debian
07:51-!-adam12 is "adam12" on #debian
07:52-!-callmepk [~callmepk@n1164989236.netvigator.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
07:52-!-Ericounet [~Eric@2a01:e0a:d0:3c20:94a:32ad:8469:266d] has joined #debian
07:52-!-Ericounet is "realname" on #debian #freedombox
07:54-!-is0ke3 [~is0ke3@0002bb50.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
07:54-!-is0ke3 is "is0ke3" on #tor #debian
07:56-!-SignumFera [~Thunderbi@165.16.203.122] has quit [Quit: SignumFera]
07:59-!-fernie [~fernie@dc7hsrykyyyyyyyyyyycy-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving]
08:09-!-leonardorocha [~leonardo@2804:14d:882:9ada:b0e7:f003:aad0:9c32] has joined #debian
08:09-!-leonardorocha is "realname" on #debian
08:09-!-tallbarr [~none@0002bff2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: tallbarr]
08:09-!-pull [~tcz@91.150.165.88] has joined #debian
08:09-!-pull is "Jan Kowalski" on #archlinux.org.pl #devuan #openstack-pl #archownia.pl #debian #moocows
08:10-!-callmepk [~callmepk@n1164989236.netvigator.com] has joined #debian
08:10-!-callmepk is "Patrick Wu" on #debian #alpine-linux
08:11-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:14-!-Brigo_ [~Brigo@40.181.60.213.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:15-!-tallbarr [~none@0002bff2.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:15-!-tallbarr is "none" on #debian.se #debian
08:21-!-jm_ [flier@000125af.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Disconnecting]
08:25-!-ahso [~Thunderbi@2601:404:c900:428:b1a8:3bad:3040:fab1] has joined #debian
08:25-!-ahso is "ahso" on #debian-next #debian #debian-wsl
08:36-!-pull [~tcz@91.150.165.88] has quit []
08:40-!-wytchmaster [~wytchmast@groupware.proxion.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:41-!-witchmaster_ [~quassel@groupware.proxion.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:44-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
08:48-!-user [~user@8L3AAFMJ0.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:48-!-user is "user" on #debian
08:48-!-user is now known as Guest4278
08:51-!-pi_ is now known as kolly
08:53-!-jonn [~jon@4G4AAELCS.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:53-!-jonn is "realname" on #debian
08:54-!-Guest4278 [~user@8L3AAFMJ0.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Guest4278]
08:54-!-Satsuki is "Satsuki" on #kernelnewbies #tor-bots #C #freedombox #virtualization
08:54-!-Satsuki [~Satsuki@7YZAAD4LA.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:54<jonn>so this works
08:54-!-guiverc [~guiverc@27-33-255-117.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
08:55<petn-randall>jonn: Your IRC client? I guess so, yes.
08:56<jonn>petn-randall: OFTC with me I meant, if I try to enter #mobian I get disconnected from the network
08:56<jonn>sorry for the OT
08:58-!-minimal [~minimal@0002b71e.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
08:58-!-minimal is "minimal" on #debian #debian-raspberrypi #fdroid #ansible-community #vmdb2 #alpine-reproducible #ifupdown-ng #s6 #musl-distros #musl #alpine-security #alpine-offtopic #alpine-linux #alpine-infra #alpine-docs #alpine-commits #alpine-cloud #alpine-devel
08:59-!-zamuro [~Samantha@00017244.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:07-!-ymusachio [~ymusachio@179.34.30.209] has joined #debian
09:07-!-ymusachio is "Yuri Musachio" on #debian
09:08-!-xylo [c55663548b@125.236.225.172] has left #debian [Error from remote client]
09:09-!-onionadmn5 [~onionadmn@223.184.66.15] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat]
09:10-!-johnjay [~pi@192.142.100.50] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:12-!-VongVang [~vladimir@46.56.204.19] has joined #debian
09:12-!-VongVang is "vladimir" on #debian
09:12-!-onionadmn5 [~onionadmn@223.184.66.15] has joined #debian
09:12-!-onionadmn5 is "Onions" on #debian
09:14-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
09:14-!-f10 is "f10" on #debian-kde #debian
09:14-!-jonn [~jon@4G4AAELCS.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has left #debian []
09:16-!-Satsuki [~Satsuki@7YZAAD4LA.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:17-!-hendursa1 [~weechat@7YZAAD4F9.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:17-!-toto_ [~toto@5.146.194.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:18-!-hendursa1 [~weechat@7YZAAD4LU.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:18-!-hendursa1 is "weechat" on #po4a #consfigurator #wayland #robigalia #debian #postmarketos #kernelnewbies
09:18-!-callmepk [~callmepk@n1164989236.netvigator.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com]
09:21-!-trekkie1701c [~trekkie17@0002c01a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: :P]
09:21-!-callmepk [~callmepk@n1164989236.netvigator.com] has joined #debian
09:21-!-callmepk is "Patrick Wu" on #debian #postmarketos
09:24-!-Kringle [~triona@0BGAAFFQN.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:24-!-Kringle is "Unknown" on #debian #redditprivacy #freedombox #debian-next
09:26-!-mimi89999 [cb2cbfa643@89-72-190-170.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:32-!-merrix [~falken@arouen-256-1-36-47.w90-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #debian
09:32-!-merrix is "falken" on #debian #debian-irc
09:32-!-BrianG61UK [~BrianG61U@2a02:8010:66b7:dddd:4887:170f:cb6:7c60] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
09:38-!-johnjay [~pi@192.142.100.50] has joined #debian
09:38-!-johnjay is "pi" on #debian #msys2
09:38-!-BrianG61UK [~BrianG61U@2a02:8010:66b7:dddd:4887:170f:cb6:7c60] has joined #debian
09:38-!-BrianG61UK is "Brian G. (in England)" on #linux-media #debian-raspberrypi #debian
09:42-!-kts [~kts@103.73.237.7] has joined #debian
09:42-!-kts is "Kyaw Thu Soe" on #debian #debian-offtopic #suse-peeps #tor-project #dri-devel #debian-kde #C #debian-next #tor
09:42-!-ach [~spo@ip-109-43-48-85.web.vodafone.de] has joined #debian
09:42-!-ach is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #spooky #debian
09:46-!-leonardorocha [~leonardo@2804:14d:882:9ada:b0e7:f003:aad0:9c32] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:48-!-Kringle [~triona@0BGAAFFQN.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:50-!-erentar [~MFMRx@94-225-47-8.access.telenet.be] has joined #debian
09:50-!-erentar is "MFMRx" on #debian #ceph-devel #ceph #alpine-linux
09:51-!-richard_h [~richard@2406:e001:8:a900:6e62:6dff:fe05:ae29] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
09:52-!-trylam [~estelle@2a01:e0a:95:5d90:468a:5bff:fe43:8419] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
09:53-!-trylam [~estelle@2a01:e0a:95:5d90:468a:5bff:fe43:8419] has joined #debian
09:53-!-trylam is "PEREZ Estelle" on #debian
09:54-!-superkuh_ [~superkuh@c-24-118-172-137.hsd1.wi.comcast.net] has joined #debian
09:54-!-superkuh_ is "superkuh" on #xorg #perl #debian-next #networking #kernelnewbies #freedombox #debian-nginx #debian
09:55-!-Brebl [~Brebl@8VQAAEKVN.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:55-!-Brebl is "Olaf Maifrend-Sergei" on #debian #C
09:55-!-superkuh [~superkuh@000106fc.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
09:56-!-filePeter [~filePeter@ip1f123cf6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
09:56-!-filePeter is "PeterM" on #debian
09:56-!-gce108 [~gce@0002b961.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:56-!-tomg [~tomg@67-43-135-23.border8-dynamic.dsl.sentex.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
09:57-!-tomg [~tomg@67-43-135-23.border8-dynamic.dsl.sentex.ca] has joined #debian
09:57-!-tomg is "Tom Goulet" on #debian
09:57-!-gce108 [~gce@0002b961.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
09:57-!-gce108 is "realname" on #debian #debian-offtopic #ovirt
09:59-!-trekkie1701c [~trekkie17@ec2-52-15-173-116.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #debian
09:59-!-trekkie1701c is "The Trekkie" on #debian-raspberrypi #debian
09:59<maryjane_>is there a way to set the gcc version to be used to compile a package
09:59<maryjane_>that uses C and C++
10:00-!-Senicar6 [~Senicar@0BGAAFFCU.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit []
10:00<maryjane_>s/to compile a package/to build a DEB package/
10:00-!-Senicar [~Senicar@8VQAAEKVS.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:00-!-Senicar is "https://ortiz.sh/" on #debian #bpftrace
10:00-!-mimi89999 [cb2cbfa643@89-72-190-170.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #debian
10:00-!-mimi89999 is "mimi89999" on #debian-next #fdroid #postmarketos-devel #debian
10:05-!-Chaotic [~Booda@4G4AAELBG.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
10:05-!-live [~live@51.158.144.32] has joined #debian
10:05-!-live is "Live session user" on #debian
10:06-!-live [~live@51.158.144.32] has quit []
10:06-!-khalid [~khalid@148.87.23.12] has joined #debian
10:06-!-khalid is "Khalid Aziz" on #debian
10:06-!-fernie [~fernie@dc7vb6ykyyyyyyyyyyycy-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
10:06-!-fernie is "Jarkko Torvinen" on #debian
10:10-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:10-!-pavlushka is "Pavel Sayekat" on #debian #oftc
10:13-!-Mezz [~Mezz@dsl-hkibng31-54fae3-116.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #debian
10:13-!-Mezz is "Mezz" on #help #packaging #virt #biz #publiclab #alpine-linux #freedombox #debian-xfce #aqi-data-share #redditprivacy #debian #moocows #ceph #Qubes_OS #oftc #kvm #llvm @#gemu
10:14-!-craigevil [~craig@00012e49.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:14-!-craigevil is "craig" on #debian-raspberrypi #debian-next #debian
10:21-!-toto_ [~toto@5.146.194.60] has joined #debian
10:21-!-toto_ is "realname" on #debian-next #debian
10:22<imMute>maryjane_: I think they use $CC or $CXX if they're set, otherwise default to gcc/g++ (and uses whatever versions those commands happen to be)
10:24-!-kveroneau [kveroneau@node1.veroneau.net] has joined #debian
10:24-!-kveroneau is "Kevin Veroneau" on #linux #kvm #virt #debian-kde #debian
10:24-!-Brebl [~Brebl@8VQAAEKVN.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:28-!-ibx2496 [~FE865@193.32.249.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:29-!-mbond [~mbond@99-35-18-230.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
10:29-!-mbond is "mbond" on #debian
10:30-!-Maduro52 [~4564asdf6@148.3.76.63] has joined #debian
10:30-!-Maduro52 is "Si SI" on #debian
10:31-!-trekkie1701c [~trekkie17@0002c01a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: :P]
10:33-!-zebrag [~inkbottle@00027865.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
10:33-!-zebrag is "inkbottle" on #wayland #debian-offtopic #oftc #debian-kde #debian-next #debian #kernelnewbies
10:34-!-aby [~aby@2a02:6680:2130:acb5:fb8e:a18:a334:2ae6] has quit [Quit: aby]
10:35-!-aby [~aby@46.19.86.214] has joined #debian
10:35-!-aby is "Aby" on #debian
10:41<scorpion2185[m]>,i deepin-menu
10:41<judd>Package deepin-menu (x11, optional) in bullseye/amd64: Deepin menu service. Version: 5.0.1-1; Size: 40.2k; Installed: 139k; Homepage: https://github.com/linuxdeepin/deepin-menu
10:41-!-aby [~aby@46.19.86.214] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
10:41-!-driib9576057107688143845666672 [~driib@185.65.135.234] has joined #debian
10:41-!-driib9576057107688143845666672 is "Andrew" on #debian
10:41-!-zamuro [~Samantha@62.83.255.182.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #debian
10:41-!-zamuro is "Romanes eunt domus" on @#debian-ve #debian
10:42<scorpion2185[m]>deepin desktop isn't available, isn't it? so what's the use of that?
10:42-!-VongVang [~vladimir@46.56.204.19] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
10:43-!-poutin [~poutin@28.174.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian
10:43-!-poutin is "realname" on #debian
10:43-!-Despatche [~desp@72.11.37.193] has joined #debian
10:43-!-Despatche is "Wealth and glory to the winner" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian #linux
10:44<poutin>hey?
10:45<scorpion2185[m]>I tried to launch it
10:45<poutin>?
10:46<poutin>lauch what?
10:47<scorpion2185[m]>deepin-menu
10:48-!-driib957605710768814384566667 [~driib@185.65.135.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
10:48<poutin>what is this?
10:48<scorpion2185[m]>,i deepin-menu
10:48<judd>Package deepin-menu (x11, optional) in bullseye/amd64: Deepin menu service. Version: 5.0.1-1; Size: 40.2k; Installed: 139k; Homepage: https://github.com/linuxdeepin/deepin-menu
10:48<scorpion2185[m]>deepin desktop isn't available, isn't it? so what's the use of that?
10:51-!-debalance [~quassel@2a02:908:1080:9040:201:2eff:fe70:36f] has joined #debian
10:51-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian #debian-devel-changes
10:54-!-Ganonk [gw@ngant.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:00-!-argentwolf [~argentwol@cpe-24-163-39-192.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:01-!-poutin [~poutin@28.174.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
11:02<imMute>scorpion2185[m]: my guess is that it's usable outside of deepin desktop?
11:02-!-_Matth_ [~Matth@2409:11:6400:6e00:e5cc:6f92:9055:73a7] has joined #debian
11:02-!-_Matth_ is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
11:03-!-Ganonk [gw@ngant.uk] has joined #debian
11:03-!-Ganonk is "MasGan" on #jakarta #oftc #lunarbnc #debian #help
11:03<imMute>scorpion2185[m]: https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/ewp48e/is_it_possible_to_install_deepin_desktop_on/fg44ftq/
11:04<imMute>scorpion2185[m]: sounds like they're working on packaging it, but some parts rely on Golang, which isn't readily usable in Debian just yet.
11:04<scorpion2185[m]>I tried to launch it, I am not sure what it is, is maybe a menu for launch app?
11:04-!-OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@0002bf4f.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
11:04-!-OsteHovel is "realname" on #debian #openttd
11:04-!-trekkie1701c [~trekkie17@ec2-52-15-173-116.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #debian
11:04-!-trekkie1701c is "The Trekkie" on #debian-raspberrypi #debian
11:05<imMute>are you actually trying to use deepin stuff, or are you just poking around?
11:07-!-zamuro [~Samantha@00017244.user.oftc.net] has left #debian [[IRSSI]]
11:08<scorpion2185[m]>I guessed too that was usable outside of deepin desktop, as a menu launcher?
11:08<scorpion2185[m]>I could use a nice menu launcher
11:09-!-pavlushka is now known as Guest4289
11:09-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
11:09-!-pavlushka is "Pavel Sayekat" on #debian #oftc
11:09-!-Guest4289 [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:10<scorpion2185[m]>so I am not trying to use the the deepin-desktop . I also tried the music player but it is unusable
11:12-!-CoreDuo [~CoreDuo@216.8.161.80] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net]
11:13-!-debalance [~quassel@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
11:15-!-CoreDuo [~CoreDuo@216.8.161.80] has joined #debian
11:15-!-CoreDuo is "CoreDuo" on #virt #kernelnewbies #debian-next #debian
11:15-!-aby [~aby@188.64.206.121] has joined #debian
11:15-!-aby is "Aby" on #debian
11:17<maryjane_>imMute so that would have to be added to the rules file?
11:18<imMute>maryjane_: I think so. maybe you can set them before calling debuild, I dunno exactly how that works.
11:18<maryjane_>thanks fo the info
11:18<maryjane_>is there a channel dedicated to packaging questions?
11:19<imMute>#packaging I think
11:19<maryjane_>so I don't offtopic more of this channel
11:19<maryjane_>thanks!
11:19-!-argentwolf [~argentwol@cpe-24-163-39-192.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #debian
11:19-!-argentwolf is "cengelbrecht" on #debian
11:23-!-Brigo_ [~Brigo@40.181.60.213.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has joined #debian
11:23-!-Brigo_ is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
11:23-!-marcello42 [~mp@p200300dfaf07ff01fa2e52f98b4dfc80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
11:23-!-marcello42 is "marcel" on #debian
11:23-!-ChmEarl [~prymar56@098-147-150-167.res.spectrum.com] has joined #debian
11:23-!-ChmEarl is "Mark Pryor" on #packaging #virt #debian
11:26-!-leonardorocha [~leonardo@200.250.29.66] has joined #debian
11:26-!-leonardorocha is "realname" on #debian
11:29-!-OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@0002bf4f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:34-!-callmepk [~callmepk@n1164989236.netvigator.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
11:34-!-wheeler [~wheeler@useirc.net] has quit [Quit: cheerio]
11:34-!-wheeler [~wheeler@useirc.net] has joined #debian
11:34-!-wheeler is "is my real name" on #debian-next #debian #bitlbee
11:36-!-jehorn [~jehorn@2600:1700:8db0:6e40:a2c4:2726:9823:523d] has joined #debian
11:36-!-jehorn is "realname" on #debian
11:37-!-ahso [~Thunderbi@0002b3cf.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: bye]
11:40-!-ahso [~Thunderbi@2601:404:c900:428:e355:3ae6:862c:addb] has joined #debian
11:40-!-ahso is "ahso" on #debian-next #debian #debian-wsl
11:41-!-trekkie1701c [~trekkie17@0002c01a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: :P]
11:43-!-user [~user@0BGAAFFTZ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
11:43-!-user is "user" on #debian
11:43-!-user is now known as Guest4294
11:43<Guest4294>h'
11:43<Guest4294>hi
11:44-!-czesmir_ [~stefan@aeao159.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit []
11:44<Guest4294>can someone help me with installing 1.1.1.1 vpn on this
11:44<Guest4294>never used linux before
11:47<chrisgt>is that the cloudflare VPN? they have a help page: https://pkg.cloudflareclient.com/install
11:51-!-ahso [~Thunderbi@0002b3cf.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: bye]
11:53<Guest4294>I can't access youtube and I want the vpn for that. would it allow me to access it
11:54-!-a0z [~a0z@90.244.129.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
11:56-!-mrwick [~mrwick@185.78.180.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:56-!-user_ [~quassel@83.120.232.126] has joined #debian
11:56-!-user_ is "Debian Live user,,," on #debian
11:56<chrisgt>if your ISP/company/country/whatever is blocking youtube then yes, a VPN will probably solve the problem
11:57-!-driib9576057107688143845666672 [~driib@185.65.135.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
11:57-!-user_ [~quassel@83.120.232.126] has quit []
12:01<Guest4294>no no I just installed whonix and when I try to go on youtube it says Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network. Please try your request again later.
12:01<Guest4294>I can access it fine on windows
12:02<chrisgt>!whonix
12:02<dpkg>Whonix is a Linux distribution based on Debian, distributed as two virtual machine images. It is not supported in #debian; ask me about <based on debian>. http://whonix.org/ #whonix on irc.oftc.net. If you are new to linux try Debian instead: https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian
12:04-!-jandr [~quassel@00017407.user.oftc.net] has quit []
12:05-!-jehorn [~jehorn@2600:1700:8db0:6e40:a2c4:2726:9823:523d] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:07-!-jarl [~jarl@h-81-170-145-92.A357.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #debian
12:07-!-jarl is "realname" on #debian #debian-freeipa
12:12-!-nuc [~nuc@200116b82a47c5006d0dc3c2654b25eb.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined #debian
12:12-!-nuc is "realname" on #debian
12:13-!-Guest4294 [~user@0BGAAFFTZ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:13-!-em__ [~eugenmaye@pd95da41c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:15-!-nuc [~nuc@200116b82a47c5006d0dc3c2654b25eb.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has left #debian []
12:18-!-fax [~quassel@87-92-108-123.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #debian
12:18-!-fax is "fax" on #linux #oftc #java #fdroid #debian #OpenBSD
12:20-!-endstille [~Miranda@94.31.101.100] has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. https://miranda-ng.org/]
12:25-!-zbychuk72995 [~zbychuk@77-255-68-85.adsl.inetia.pl] has quit []
12:25-!-Petaris [~Petaris@173-165-54-234-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #debian
12:25-!-Petaris is "realname" on #alpine-linux #debian
12:25-!-ahasenack [~ahasenack@162.213.32.10] has joined #debian
12:25-!-ahasenack is "Andreas Hasenack" on #debian #aide
12:25-!-zbychuk72995 [~zbychuk@77-255-68-85.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #debian
12:25-!-zbychuk72995 is "Zbyszek" on #debian #alpine-linux
12:26-!-andibmu [~andi@i5E86643F.versanet.de] has joined #debian
12:26-!-andibmu is "Andreas B. Mundt" on #debian-meeting #debian #debian-next #debian-offtopic #debian-edu #debian-lan
12:27-!-hant1216 [~hant1216@119.123.58.158] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:29-!-chele [~chele@00022067.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:30-!-is0ke3 [~is0ke3@0002bb50.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
12:31-!-is0ke3 [~is0ke3@0002bb50.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:31-!-is0ke3 is "is0ke3" on #tor #debian
12:31-!-trekkie1701c [~trekkie17@0002c01a.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:31-!-trekkie1701c is "The Trekkie" on #debian-raspberrypi #debian
12:32-!-Petaris [~Petaris@173-165-54-234-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:35-!-skitt [~skitt@82-65-25-201.subs.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:36-!-tizef [~tizef@202.153.81.220] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:37-!-craigevil [~craig@00012e49.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
12:39-!-lastsurvivor [~user@0BGAAFFU0.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
12:39-!-lastsurvivor is "ellenripley" on #debian
12:40-!-erentar [~MFMRx@94-225-47-8.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
12:40-!-erentar [~MFMRx@94-225-47-8.access.telenet.be] has joined #debian
12:40-!-erentar is "MFMRx" on #debian #ceph-devel #ceph #alpine-linux
12:40-!-dathckr [~quassel@2001:ee0:4d77:7f90:226d:149a:b99f:c751] has joined #debian
12:40-!-dathckr is "Dat T.The" on #debian
12:40-!-apkef [~apkef@2a02:587:3203:ea00::117] has joined #debian
12:40-!-apkef is "Apostolos" on #debian
12:41-!-dathckr [~quassel@2001:ee0:4d77:7f90:226d:149a:b99f:c751] has quit []
12:41<apkef>can anyone help with virtual manager on bullseye?
12:41<Human_G33k>there is a tool to ask new software ? maybe the best way is to write a small script with a email template ?
12:43-!-lastsurvivor [~user@0BGAAFFU0.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit []
12:44-!-Petaris [~Petaris@173-165-54-234-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #debian
12:44-!-Petaris is "realname" on #alpine-linux #debian
12:47-!-hele [~hele@88-115-22-139.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #debian
12:47-!-hele is "hele" on #debian-next #debian
12:47-!-compaq [~compaq@51.15.9.205] has joined #debian
12:47-!-compaq is "compaq" on #debian
12:48-!-Tenkawa [~Tenkawa@99.17.242.8] has joined #debian
12:48-!-Tenkawa is "Tenkawa" on #debian
12:50-!-Tenkawa [~Tenkawa@99.17.242.8] has left #debian []
12:50-!-aziznsan [~aziznsan@114.122.105.20] has joined #debian
12:50-!-aziznsan is "realname" on #debian
12:51<aziznsan>hii
12:52-!-compaq [~compaq@51.15.9.205] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
12:52-!-Petaris [~Petaris@173-165-54-234-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
12:53-!-aziznsan [~aziznsan@114.122.105.20] has quit []
12:54<apkef>virtual machine manager connection failure
12:54-!-jpw [~jpw@cpc146708-rdng28-2-0-cust213.15-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #debian
12:54-!-jpw is "..." on #debian-offtopic #debian
12:54<apkef>unable to connect to libvirt qemu:///system
12:55<apkef>verify that 'libvirtd' daemon is running
12:55-!-debalance [~quassel@2a02:908:1080:9040:201:2eff:fe70:36f] has joined #debian
12:55-!-debalance is "Philipp Huebner" on #debian #debian-devel-changes
12:55<fernie>have you added yourself to libvirt group?
12:55<apkef>nope!
12:57<apkef>usermod: group 'libvirt' does not exist
12:57-!-jipege [~quassel@2a01:cb19:85fa:2d00:6fbf:6506:44de:523b] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Discuter simplement. Partout.]
12:58<Tj>apkef: are you using virt-manager to connect to local hypervisor, or remote ?
12:58<apkef>local
12:58-!-jipege [~quassel@2a01:cb19:85fa:2d00:19ee:ff87:c623:fbfd] has joined #debian
12:58-!-jipege is "jipege" on #debian
12:59<Tj>apkef: if local then installing virt-manager should have pulled in libvirt-daemon, which in its postinst script should add the libvirt group
12:59-!-Talkless [~Talkless@mail.dargis.net] has joined #debian
12:59-!-Talkless is "Talkless" on @#osm-lt #debian-next #debian
13:00<jmcnaught>Unless recommends were disabled
13:00-!-shuvarek [~shuvarek@staticline-31-182-169-28.toya.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:03<apkef>you are correct!
13:03-!-qwer [~qwer@78-80-122-90.customers.tmcz.cz] has quit []
13:04<apkef>It is on libvirt-daemon-system not libvirt-daemon
13:05<apkef>why this is not on Depends ???
13:06-!-DocTrax [~egbert@00013802.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:06-!-DocTrax is "Theobald" on #debian #kanotix
13:06-!-lucascastro [~lucascast@177-185-128-123.static.isotelco.net.br] has joined #debian
13:06-!-lucascastro is "Lucas Castro" on #debian-bsb #kernelnewbies #debian #debian-devel-br
13:07-!-ivan81 [~Thunderbi@0002a317.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:07-!-ivan81 is "ivan81" on #debian
13:07-!-Petaris [~Petaris@173-165-54-234-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #debian
13:07-!-Petaris is "realname" on #alpine-linux #debian
13:07<jmcnaught>apkef: so you can install virt-manager on a different system than the hypervisor
13:08-!-bertbob [~bertbob@00012c9b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:08<jmcnaught>apkef: why disable recommends? They're recommended.
13:08-!-madstorm45 [~Mad@179.214.216.212] has joined #debian
13:08-!-madstorm45 is "Storm" on #debian
13:08<apkef>I have not disabled recommended! How to check it/enable it?
13:09<apkef>Error starting domain: Cannot check QEMU binary /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64: No such file or directory
13:09<jmcnaught>Recommends are installed by default
13:09<apkef>nope!
13:10-!-shuvarek [~shuvarek@staticline-31-182-169-28.toya.net.pl] has joined #debian
13:10-!-shuvarek is "shuvarek" on #debian #help
13:10-!-timur_davletshin [~timur_dav@0002b842.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
13:11<jmcnaught>apkef: does "grep -r Recommends /etc/apt" return anything?
13:12-!-_Matth_ [~Matth@2409:11:6400:6e00:e5cc:6f92:9055:73a7] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:12-!-timur_davletshin [~timur_dav@0002b842.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:12-!-timur_davletshin is "Timur Davletshin" on #tor #oftc #debian
13:12<apkef>nope!
13:12-!-format_c [~format_c@0002ca8c.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:12-!-format_c is "Alexander Koeppe" on #debian
13:13-!-xylo [c55663548b@125.236.225.172] has joined #debian
13:13-!-xylo is "xylo" on #debian
13:14-!-luis_ [~luis@181.60.110.129] has joined #debian
13:14-!-luis_ is "realname" on #debian
13:14-!-endstille [~Miranda@2a00:6020:1dfe:7100:2881:a3a1:83aa:62ed] has joined #debian
13:14-!-endstille is "marc.brinkmann@gmail.com" on #debian
13:15<blast007>apkef: if you're trying to set up KVM, see https://wiki.debian.org/KVM
13:15<jmcnaught>apkef: are you using Debian or a derivative? Recommends *are* installed by default on Debian, so maybe you disabled them somehow and forgot, or you use a derivative?
13:16-!-merrix [~falken@arouen-256-1-36-47.w90-51.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:17-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb1+focal2 - https://znc.in]
13:19-!-rany [~rany@107.189.6.254] has joined #debian
13:19-!-rany is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #zwiebelfreunde #tor #quetzalcoatl-relays #debian-next #debian
13:20-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:20-!-pa [~smuxi@86-95-132-61.fixed.kpn.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host]
13:21-!-rany [~rany@107.189.6.254] has joined #debian
13:21-!-rany is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #zwiebelfreunde #tor #quetzalcoatl-relays #debian-next #debian
13:23-!-pa [~smuxi@86-95-132-61.fixed.kpn.net] has joined #debian
13:23-!-pa is "Your Name" on #debian
13:25-!-Petaris [~Petaris@173-165-54-234-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:26-!-ymusachio [~ymusachio@179.34.30.209] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:27<apkef>$ lsb_release -a
13:28<apkef>No LSB modules are available.
13:28<apkef>Distributor ID: Debian
13:28<apkef>Description: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
13:28<apkef>Release: 11
13:28<apkef>Codename: bullseye
13:28-!-mode/#debian [+q *!*@2a02:587:3203:ea00::117] by debchange
13:30-!-gelignite [~gelignite@55d48754.access.ecotel.net] has joined #debian
13:30-!-gelignite is "gelignite" on #debian #llvm #openttd
13:31-!-mode/#debian [-q *!*@2a02:587:3203:ea00::117] by debchange
13:31<jmcnaught>!paste
13:31<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>.
13:31-!-bertbob [~bertbob@136.36.72.224] has joined #debian
13:31-!-bertbob is "Bert" on #debian #debian-next
13:31-!-vicky [uid270243@id-270243.lymington.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
13:34-!-luis_ [~luis@181.60.110.129] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:41-!-user_ [~user@0BGAAFFWG.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:41-!-user_ is "user" on #debian
13:42-!-Guest3834 [jezebel@nxdoma.in] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:42-!-user_ [~user@0BGAAFFWG.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit []
13:42-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb1+focal2 - https://znc.in]
13:44-!-xylo [c55663548b@125.236.225.172] has left #debian [Error from remote client]
13:45-!-rany [~rany@107.189.6.254] has joined #debian
13:45-!-rany is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #zwiebelfreunde #tor #quetzalcoatl-relays #debian-next #debian
13:46-!-hendursa1 [~weechat@7YZAAD4LU.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit []
13:47-!-jezebel [jezebel@nxdoma.in] has joined #debian
13:47-!-jezebel is "something wicked this way comes" on #debian
13:48-!-jezebel is now known as Guest4303
13:48-!-ivan81 [~Thunderbi@0002a317.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ivan81]
13:51-!-texou [~jp@000178ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:52<apkef>stupid backports!!!!
13:52-!-hendursaga [~weechat@8L3AAFMQX.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
13:52-!-hendursaga is "weechat" on #po4a #consfigurator #wayland #robigalia #debian #postmarketos #kernelnewbies
13:56-!-oem [~oem@179.97.80.206] has joined #debian
13:56-!-oem is "realname" on #debian
13:56<oem>HELLO
13:56-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb1+focal2 - https://znc.in]
13:56-!-oem [~oem@179.97.80.206] has quit []
13:57-!-Guest4303 [jezebel@nxdoma.in] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
13:57-!-kathenas [~kathenas@2a02:c7f:e512:a500:5e87:9cff:fe0a:a66d] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
13:57-!-rany [~rany@107.189.6.254] has joined #debian
13:57-!-rany is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #zwiebelfreunde #tor #quetzalcoatl-relays #debian-next #debian
13:58-!-mipo [~oftc-webi@82.79.160.90] has joined #debian
13:58-!-mipo is "OFTC WebIRC Client" on #debian
13:58-!-xylo [c55663548b@125.236.225.172] has joined #debian
13:58-!-xylo is "xylo" on #debian
13:59-!-mezzo [~mezzo@176-141-171-88.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: leaving]
13:59<mipo>what is the status of printing in debian 11.1 - installed, not installed, installed but not configured, etc. ?
13:59<sney>depends on what tasks you install
14:00<sney>but with the addition of ipp-usb, most printers just work out of the box without needing extra work
14:00<mipo>i have debian 11.1, default install, and wiki says i need to install cups, ..., but firefox is able to see my printer in the network , still Settings>Printers is not able to see it
14:00-!-NomadJim [~Jim@2001:5b0:2d53:92b8:14d3:705c:8a9e:dac9] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
14:01-!-ivan81 [~ivan81@77.39.240.11] has joined #debian
14:01-!-ivan81 is "Giovanni "Ivan" Alberotanza" on #debian
14:01<mipo>sney: the Print server task is not anymore in install, if i am right
14:01<sney>by "default install" I assume you mean the gnome desktop. it is possible to use supported printers with ipp without administering them through cups
14:02<sney>there's some more information and links here, but it sounds like everything is working https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#driverless-operation
14:02<mipo>sney: so ipp printers do not need cups
14:02<sney>correct
14:03<chrisgt>i still like the CUPS web interface (localhost:631), since it works better than the gnome tool for me
14:03<mipo>this subject, linux / unix print was so confusing for many users since the inception of lpd, still confusing today
14:03<sney>yeah, the simple ipp plug and play option is great for the most basic usage, but if you need to customize or adjust anything then cups is still the answer
14:04<mipo>there is no clear delimitation between LOCAL printer and NETWORK printer - are they using the same protocol ?
14:04<sney>with ipp, yes
14:04<mipo>sney: so i better install cups for network printer
14:04<chrisgt>the only difference is the location
14:04<sney>the release notes link above has some more information and links on this, but basically, ipp-usb turns a usb-connected printer into a network printer, virtually
14:05<sney>you should install cups if you need cups. if you currently have a network printer connected by ipp, then you can just leave it.
14:05<mipo>uh, i just print a single page on that ipp suppose thing, and the printer is outputing countles pages, uhh, have to stop and reset it manually :)
14:05<sney>oh, so you do have a problem. so far all you've said is that you didn't know the difference.
14:06<mipo>sney: what difference?
14:06<sney>between cups and ipp printing? are we in the same room?
14:06<sney>anyway yes if you need to adjust something on your printer you should install cups.
14:06*sney rewinds
14:06<mipo>i just need to install a network printer, until debian 11 and on other dist i was able to see printer autodiscovered in Gnome Settings>Printers :|
14:07-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb1+focal2 - https://znc.in]
14:09-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:09-!-rany is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #zwiebelfreunde #tor-relays #tor-project #tor-dev #tor #quetzalcoatl-relays #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
14:10<mipo>geee, i am going crazy or what? openprint project's page is even more confusing - folks, if they have a link for cups-filters and keep talking at that page about cups only, wtf should i understand?
14:10*mipo is totally baffled about printing
14:10<abff>cups provides a web interface too
14:11<mipo>abff: yes it does, but there are many cups-* packages and i am trying to read about what i really need for my printer
14:12-!-Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:12-!-Brainium is "brainium" on #debian-social #linux #virt #C #tor-project #debian-kde #debian
14:14<chrisgt>what printer do you have?
14:15-!-Ericounet [~Eric@2a01:e0a:d0:3c20:94a:32ad:8469:266d] has quit []
14:15-!-kathenas [~kathenas@2a02:c7f:e512:a500:5e87:9cff:fe0a:a66d] has joined #debian
14:15-!-kathenas is "Phil Wyett" on #debian #debian-next
14:15<mipo>chrisgt: Brother DCP-L2530DW, listed as works perfectly on openprinting site
14:15<abff>mipo: p sure you just need the base package cups, then once the service is running, connect to the web interface https://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting#webinterface
14:16<chrisgt>yea just instal CUPS, go to localhost:631 in a browser, and add your printer
14:16-!-tagomago [~tagomago@137.101.226.215] has joined #debian
14:16-!-tagomago is "Tagomago" on #debian
14:17<mipo>chrisgt: and the fact that firefox is able to see my printer now without cups installed can be indeed because IPP protocol - still it is not able to print correctly
14:17-!-format_c [~format_c@0002ca8c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: format_c]
14:17-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb1+focal2 - https://znc.in]
14:18-!-madstorm45 [~Mad@179.214.216.212] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
14:19<chrisgt>IPP sees one of my printers, but the driver does not work. i have to chose a driver in CUPS and then it's fine
14:19<mipo>uh, that should be IPP Everywhere protocol then
14:19<mipo>IPP needs CUPS
14:20<mipo>ok, cups is on the way then
14:20<mipo>thanks
14:21<chrisgt>i think you can just 'apt install cups' and be done with it
14:21-!-phunyguy [~blaahchm@h96-61-21-149.kgldga.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:21-!-heiserhorn_ is "Michele Cane" on #oftc #debian-next
14:21-!-heiserhorn_ [~heiserhor@2a02:1205:500a:2b90:491b:b03a:7a42:1652] has joined #debian
14:23<mipo>chrisgt: yes, that is the way - my printer webpage lists a lot of "protocols" , but i will let cups choose whatever comes :-)
14:24-!-rany [~rany@107.189.6.254] has joined #debian
14:24-!-rany is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #zwiebelfreunde #tor #quetzalcoatl-relays #debian-next #debian
14:27-!-mipo [~oftc-webi@82.79.160.90] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
14:28-!-paw [~afong@198-84-206-8.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
14:28-!-paw is "realname" on #debian
14:29-!-heiserhorn [~heiserhor@185.159.157.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:29-!-log2 [~log2@37.120.215.230] has joined #debian
14:29-!-log2 is "snake" on #tor #sxmo-offtopic #postmarketos #oftc #debian
14:32-!-cef [~cef@220.253.10.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
14:42<paw>Hi, question, I'm seeing the following error/warning messages when installing some packages (e.g. libreoffice):
14:42<paw>Use of uninitialized value $template in exists at /usr/shareUse of uninitialized value $template in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 86, <GEN7> chunk 1.
14:42<paw>Use of uninitialized value $item in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Cache.pm line 40, <GEN7> chunk 1.
14:44-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb1+focal2 - https://znc.in]
14:45-!-phunyguy [~blaahchm@h96-61-21-149.kgldga.broadband.dynamic.tds.net] has joined #debian
14:45-!-phunyguy is "Phuny Guy" on #debian #ceph #ovirt
14:46-!-endstille [~Miranda@2a00:6020:1dfe:7100:2881:a3a1:83aa:62ed] has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. https://miranda-ng.org/]
14:52-!-fjogiwj [~gabriel@143.0.118.50] has joined #debian
14:52-!-fjogiwj is "gabriel" on #debian
14:52<fjogiwj>aha
14:52-!-srgrint_ [~srgrint@55.201.159.143.dyn.plus.net] has joined #debian
14:52-!-srgrint_ is "Simon Richard Grint" on #debian
14:52-!-Etua [~Thunderbi@2a02:a317:e13a:2b00:cac9:cd62:c767:ae45] has joined #debian
14:52-!-Etua is "Etua" on #openttd #debian-pl #debian #osm-pl
14:53-!-fjogiwj [~gabriel@143.0.118.50] has quit []
14:57-!-jacksonier [~jacksonie@0002acd0.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:57-!-jacksonier is "Jack Sonier" on #virt #debian #C #llvm #alpine-linux
14:57-!-jacksonier [~jacksonie@0002acd0.user.oftc.net] has quit []
14:58-!-jada [~maya@0BGAAFFYD.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
14:58-!-jada is "Jada" on #debian
14:59-!-rany [~rany@107.189.6.254] has joined #debian
14:59-!-rany is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #zwiebelfreunde #tor #quetzalcoatl-relays #debian-next #debian
15:00<jada>?
15:01-!-catis [~catis@customer-170-79-159-205.meganetfacil.com.br] has joined #debian
15:01-!-catis is "realname" on #debian
15:01-!-catis [~catis@customer-170-79-159-205.meganetfacil.com.br] has quit []
15:02-!-Talkless [~Talkless@mail.dargis.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
15:03-!-SynrG [~synrg@0000faa3.user.oftc.net] has left #debian [wop]
15:04<grove> !ask
15:04<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
15:05-!-jada1 [~jada@8L3AAFMSD.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:05-!-jada1 is "Jada" on #debian
15:08-!-heiserhorn_ [~heiserhor@2a02:1205:500a:2b90:491b:b03a:7a42:1652] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:10-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb1+focal2 - https://znc.in]
15:10-!-debalance [~quassel@00017b9a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:12-!-Tenkawa [~Tenkawa@99.17.242.8] has joined #debian
15:12-!-Tenkawa is "Tenkawa" on #debian
15:12-!-rany [~rany@107.189.6.254] has joined #debian
15:12-!-rany is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #zwiebelfreunde #tor #quetzalcoatl-relays #debian-next #debian
15:13-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
15:13-!-Tenkawa [~Tenkawa@99.17.242.8] has quit []
15:14-!-jada1 [~jada@8L3AAFMSD.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
15:15<abff>paw: what are you asking
15:15-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:15-!-pavlushka is "Pavel Sayekat" on #oftc #debian
15:15<abff>You stated there was a question, but did not ask one
15:15<paw>The question, from my limited understanding of debconf, from looking at the code, it looks like it's that way by design, we have: return $template{$template} if exists $template{$template}, I'm trying to validate if this is indeed the case
15:15<paw>sorry, question delayed
15:18<paw>what I'm also observing is that if I install libreoffice the first time, it triggers the error messages but if I remove and reinstall, the error messages don't return
15:18-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb1+focal2 - https://znc.in]
15:20-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:20-!-rany is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #zwiebelfreunde #tor-relays #tor-project #tor-dev #tor #quetzalcoatl-relays #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
15:21-!-RedSoxFan07 [~Thunderbi@d-159-250-218-50.ct.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has joined #debian
15:21-!-RedSoxFan07 is "RedSoxFan07" on #debian-next #debian
15:22-!-texou [~jp@000178ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:22-!-texou is "Stoicien" on #debian-nonupload #hyprateam #debian-i18n #bitlbee #debian-next #debian #debian-devel-es #debian-devel-it #debian-a11y
15:23-!-jada [~maya@0BGAAFFYD.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org]
15:23-!-is0ke3 [~is0ke3@0002bb50.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Zzzzzz...]
15:23-!-leonardo_ [~leonardo@2804:1b2:8181:308:499:8ca:4991:d08] has joined #debian
15:23-!-leonardo_ is "realname" on #debian
15:29-!-leonardorocha [~leonardo@200.250.29.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:29-!-rany [~rany@000230e5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb1+focal2 - https://znc.in]
15:31-!-msim_ [~msim@2001:8004:1bd0:32be:a34a:909b:471b:d] has joined #debian
15:31-!-msim_ is "msim" on #oftc #C #kernelnewbies #c++ #ricochet-refresh #ricochet #pluggable-transports #debian #gnu #linux #r2 #llvm
15:31-!-zleap [~Paul@00028cc7.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:31-!-zleap is "realname" on #debcamp #debian-live #debian-social #tor #minidebconf-online #debian-academy #debian-next #debian
15:32-!-rany [~rany@107.189.6.254] has joined #debian
15:32-!-rany is "ZNC - https://znc.in" on #zwiebelfreunde #tor #quetzalcoatl-relays #debian-next #debian
15:32-!-msim [~msim@0002b050.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:32-!-log2 [~log2@37.120.215.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:34-!-dnormandin [~smuxi@d205-206-78-251.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #debian
15:34-!-dnormandin is "Your Name" on #debian
15:34-!-doubletwist [~doubletwi@2603-8080-0704-e200-04eb-37ff-febd-59b4.res6.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:34-!-dnormandin [~smuxi@d205-206-78-251.abhsia.telus.net] has left #debian []
15:36-!-Linux77 [~kvirc@187-126-71-30.user3p.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #debian
15:36-!-Linux77 is "KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://kvirc.net/" on #cap-cc #debian-next #debian
15:37-!-msim [~msim@2001:8003:d194:d000::d8d] has joined #debian
15:37-!-msim is "msim" on #oftc #C #kernelnewbies #c++ #ricochet-refresh #ricochet #pluggable-transports #debian #gnu #linux #r2 #llvm
15:38-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:40-!-msim_ [~msim@2001:8004:1bd0:32be:a34a:909b:471b:d] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:41-!-RedSoxFan07 [~Thunderbi@d-159-250-218-50.ct.cpe.atlanticbb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:42-!-dukester [~smuxi@d205-206-78-251.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #debian
15:42-!-dukester is "duke" on #debian
15:42-!-dukester [~smuxi@d205-206-78-251.abhsia.telus.net] has quit []
15:42-!-Slashman [~Slash@cosium-fo-152-18.fib.nerim.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
15:48-!-gelignite [~gelignite@55d48754.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: Stay safe!]
15:51-!-richard_h [~richard@2406:e001:8:a900:6e62:6dff:fe05:ae29] has joined #debian
15:51-!-richard_h is "purple" on #debian
15:52-!-Etua [~Thunderbi@2a02:a317:e13a:2b00:cac9:cd62:c767:ae45] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:52-!-nighthawk [~knighthaw@107-179-190-60.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined #debian
15:52-!-nighthawk is "realname" on #debian
15:53-!-doubletwist [~doubletwi@2603-8080-0704-e200-04eb-37ff-febd-59b4.res6.spectrum.com] has joined #debian
15:53-!-doubletwist is "doubletwist" on #debian
15:55-!-hele [~hele@88-115-22-139.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
15:56-!-jada [~maya@0BGAAFFZH.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
15:56-!-jada is "Jada" on #debian
16:03-!-aloo_shu [~aloo_shu@79.116.103.134] has joined #debian
16:03-!-aloo_shu is "fighting credulity since 1895" on #YeOldeOldeStable @#puppylinux #moocows #debian-offtopic #debian
16:03-!-Blacker47 [~Blacker47@00014f22.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Life is short. Get a V.90 modem fast!]
16:04-!-aby [~aby@188.64.206.121] has quit [Quit: aby]
16:07-!-dpanter [~dpanter@0002672e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:09-!-msim_ [~msim@124.182.21.6] has joined #debian
16:09-!-msim_ is "msim" on #oftc #C #kernelnewbies #c++ #ricochet-refresh #ricochet #pluggable-transports #debian #gnu #linux #r2 #llvm
16:09-!-ddsys [~ddsys@0002a5a5.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:09-!-ddsys is "ddsys" on #debian-next #debian
16:11-!-msim [~msim@0002b050.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:14-!-paw [~afong@198-84-206-8.cpe.teksavvy.com] has left #debian [Leaving]
16:17-!-dpanter [~dpanter@0002672e.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:17-!-dpanter is "realname" on #debian-kde #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
16:19-!-pataquets [~oftc-webi@213.195.105.179] has joined #debian
16:19-!-pataquets is "OFTC WebIRC Client" on #debian
16:20-!-leonardo_ [~leonardo@2804:1b2:8181:308:499:8ca:4991:d08] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:20-!-msim__ [~msim@2001:8003:d194:d000::d8d] has joined #debian
16:20-!-msim__ is "msim" on #oftc #C #kernelnewbies #c++ #ricochet-refresh #ricochet #pluggable-transports #debian #gnu #linux #r2 #llvm
16:20-!-pavlushka [~pavlushka@00021abb.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:21-!-msim_ [~msim@124.182.21.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:22<tertu>is there a way to have a port only allow connections from the same machine?
16:22-!-agentcasey [~markie@li1256-35.members.linode.com] has joined #debian
16:22-!-agentcasey is "Mark Anthony Paul Hammond" on #freedombox #debian-next #debian
16:23-!-nighthawk [~knighthaw@107-179-190-60.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
16:23-!-arnoldoree [~arnoldore@3.183.93.209.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:23-!-pdt-arnold_oree [~arnoldore@3.183.93.209.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:23-!-jarl [~jarl@h-81-170-145-92.A357.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:23-!-agentcasey [~markie@li1256-35.members.linode.com] has left #debian []
16:24<sussudio>tertu: have the service listen on localhost
16:24<kveroneau>tertu, make the service only listen on localhost aka 127.0.0.1 or a unix domain socket.
16:24-!-doubletwist [~doubletwi@2603-8080-0704-e200-04eb-37ff-febd-59b4.res6.spectrum.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:25-!-doubletwist [~doubletwi@2603-8080-0704-e200-04eb-37ff-febd-59b4.res6.spectrum.com] has joined #debian
16:25-!-doubletwist is "doubletwist" on #debian
16:26-!-jada [~maya@0BGAAFFZH.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org]
16:27<tertu>okay i'm looking a bit more into this
16:27<tertu>is there a way to do that if the service doesn't support it?
16:28<kveroneau>tertu, you could use iptables to restrict access to it, yes.
16:28-!-jada1 [~jada@8VQAAEK2V.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian
16:28-!-jada1 is "Jada" on #debian
16:28<sarnold>it'd be worth filing a bug report with whatever tool it is, specifying a listen address is a very common thing to do
16:29<tertu>also, is there a way to check a unix domain socket to see if it's openable or not (right now i'm using dtach with a program and the issue is that dtach doesn't seem to offer a way to check if a socket is openable besides trying to create a new session)
16:32<kveroneau>dtach is creating a unix domain socket I take it, like screen would normally in order to reconnect back to it's console?
16:32-!-andibmu [~andi@i5E86643F.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:33<kveroneau>I've never used dtach before, so pardon my ignorance on the subject. Just trying to get some additional context.
16:36<sarnold>tertu: maybe ss -xpl ? it was able to find an nc -U -l /tmp/nc anyway :)
16:37<kveroneau>Oh, good old netcat :)
16:37<sarnold>:)
16:37<sarnold>I was very pleasantly surprised to see it does unix
16:42-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
16:42-!-f10 is "f10" on #debian-kde #debian
16:43-!-jpw [~jpw@cpc146708-rdng28-2-0-cust213.15-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
16:50-!-HeavyMental [~HeavyMent@cpc90006-warr7-2-0-cust56.1-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #debian
16:50-!-HeavyMental is "Mentally Heavy" on #debian
16:52-!-onionadmn5 [~onionadmn@223.184.66.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
16:53-!-agentcasey [~markie@li1256-35.members.linode.com] has joined #debian
16:53-!-agentcasey is "Mark Anthony Paul Hammond" on #freedombox #debian-next #debian
16:54-!-agentcasey [~markie@li1256-35.members.linode.com] has left #debian []
16:56-!-A|an [~Alan@173.216.51.200] has joined #debian
16:56-!-A|an is "realname" on #debian
16:58-!-carlin [~carlin@187.34.34.212] has joined #debian
16:58-!-carlin is "realname" on #debian
16:59-!-carlin [~carlin@187.34.34.212] has quit []
17:00-!-crn [~chuck@0001324e.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:00-!-crn is "charles raymond norwood" on #debian
17:00-!-apkef [~apkef@2a02:587:3203:ea00::117] has quit [Quit: apkef]
17:01-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:01-!-dvs is "realname" on #debian
17:01-!-jada1 [~jada@8VQAAEK2V.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has left #debian []
17:02-!-marcello42 [~mp@p200300dfaf07ff01fa2e52f98b4dfc80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:02<crn>is there a package ia32-libs that will work for buster?
17:02-!-HeavyMental [~HeavyMent@cpc90006-warr7-2-0-cust56.1-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:02-!-Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:03-!-HeavyMental [~HeavyMent@cpc90006-warr7-2-0-cust56.1-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #debian
17:03-!-HeavyMental is "Mentally Heavy" on #debian
17:03-!-ThothK [~thoth@dhcp-72-253-239-10.hawaiiantel.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
17:04-!-ThothK [~thoth@dhcp-72-253-239-10.hawaiiantel.net] has joined #debian
17:04-!-ThothK is "purple" on #debian
17:04-!-texou [~jp@000178ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.3]
17:04-!-ThothK is now known as Guest4310
17:06-!-jstein [~jstein@xdsl-87-78-208-115.nc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:06-!-Guest4310 is now known as ThothK
17:07-!-gnugr [~gnugr@gnugr.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
17:09-!-m_g_lewis [~melvin@2601:541:8202:33d0:8a51:fbff:fe48:1e94] has joined #debian
17:09-!-m_g_lewis is "Melvin T. Glenn Lewis" on #debian
17:09<abff>crn not since like 2016
17:09-!-crn [~chuck@0001324e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:10<at0m>,v ia32-libs
17:10<judd>No package named 'ia32-libs' was found in amd64.
17:11-!-texou [~jp@000178ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
17:11-!-texou is "Stoicien" on #debian-nonupload #hyprateam #debian-i18n #bitlbee #debian-next #debian #debian-devel-es #debian-devel-it #debian-a11y
17:13<abff>crn I found this https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO#Installing_Android_SDK_compat_libraries
17:13<abff>does that help you?
17:14<Sqrt{not}>%multiarch
17:14<dselect>Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>.
17:20-!-leonardorocha [~leonardo@2804:14d:882:9ada:c04b:6f17:d3b2:e424] has joined #debian
17:20-!-leonardorocha is "realname" on #debian
17:22-!-ahasenack [~ahasenack@162.213.32.10] has quit [Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in]
17:22-!-ao2 [~ao2@host-82-53-75-227.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:23-!-gnugr [~gnugr@91.132.142.236] has joined #debian
17:23-!-gnugr is "Vangelis Mouhtsis" on #tinycore-lab #oftc #debian-xfce #debian-owncloud #debian-devel-changes #debian #debian-ayatana
17:29-!-zleap [~Paul@00028cc7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:34-!-marvka [~marvka@static.63.58.108.65.clients.your-server.de] has joined #debian
17:34-!-marvka is "marvka" on #debian
17:35-!-Mezz [~Mezz@dsl-hkibng31-54fae3-116.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
17:38-!-srgrint_ [~srgrint@55.201.159.143.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: srgrint_]
17:39-!-r4fkramer [~r4fkramer@45-171-184-131.topnetsp.net.br] has joined #debian
17:39-!-r4fkramer is "realname" on #debian
17:39-!-vdamewood [~vdamewood@0002b6dc.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
17:41-!-zedki [~zedki@184.100.77.239] has joined #debian
17:41-!-zedki is "realname" on #debian
17:41-!-zedki [~zedki@184.100.77.239] has left #debian []
17:42<r4fkramer>Hi all. I'm performing another debian installation in QEMU/KVM for testing purposes, and I'd like to know under which circumstances should I use above 1GB SWAP, as I never use more than 300MB - confirmed via the 'free -h' command.
17:42<r4fkramer>In this case, I intend to configure a database server for learning purposes.
17:43-!-delial [~delial@47.185.110.48] has joined #debian
17:43-!-delial is "realname" on #oftc #linux #debian
17:44<sarnold>r4fkramer: hey, the usual reason for more than one gig of swap is because you want to use hibernation
17:44<gig>correct!
17:44<sarnold>r4fkramer: sometimes workloads are just too big for the computer in question, and several gigs of swap is a way to make it work, but it's usually better to plan on having enough memory for the problem :)
17:45<r4fkramer>Fine sarnold ! Nice to meet you here again :)
17:45<sarnold>oh look an expert :D
17:45-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:46<r4fkramer>Please sarnold, in this case (a debian database server) should I use more than 1 GB SWAP ? Not so clear this question related to hibernation yet....
17:47<sarnold>r4fkramer: I'd use one gigabyte, and keep an eye on use.
17:48<r4fkramer>Great. According your analysis, I don't need more than 1GB SWAP in a debian desktop - I always configure my Debian Desktops with about 3 GB SWAP, but I suspect it doesn't make much sense.
17:49<chrisgt>depends if you want hibernate or not
17:50<r4fkramer>Fine chrisgt, as I said before, not so clear about hibernation yet. If possible, please, give me any site where I can learn a little bit more about it.
17:51-!-ddsys [~ddsys@0002a5a5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
17:51<mason>r4fkramer: https://chrisdown.name/2018/01/02/in-defence-of-swap.html
17:52<sarnold>mason: oh yeah! that's a great page
17:52<r4fkramer>Fine mason, thank you very much for help and assistance :)
17:52<sarnold>mason: man, the other day someone wanted a reference on swappiness and I *knew* I had read something good but couldn't recall where from...
17:52<mason>r4fkramer: I still remember the r4fbsd days.
17:52<mason>sarnold: IRC logs. Always IRC logs.
17:53<sarnold>mason: :D
17:53-!-sunilmohan [~quassel@c-71-197-225-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #debian
17:53-!-sunilmohan is "Sunil Mohan Adapa" on #debian-blends #debian
17:54<r4fkramer>Oh, that time I used to test and use some BSDs (also debian kFreeBSD).Good memory you have, mason :)
17:55<sussudio>debian.log.20060714:[05:52] <myren> would /proc/sys/vm/swappiness affect a
17:55<sussudio>system without swap space?
17:55<sussudio>i don't get it.
17:55-!-otisolsen70 [~otisolsen@xd4ed80b5.cust.hiper.dk] has quit []
17:56-!-coruja [~coruja@000170b7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in]
17:56-!-tagomago [~tagomago@137.101.226.215] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
17:59-!-maknho [~maknho@jarade-pieniek.nohost.me] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:00-!-coruja [~coruja@158.181.83.201] has joined #debian
18:00-!-coruja is "Markus Meyer" on #debian-next #oftc #frickelplatz #debian #blobot
18:03-!-TheRealSoundWave [~quassel@bras-base-mtrlpq425ow-grc-01-65-92-227-171.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
18:03-!-TheRealSoundWave is "SoundWave" on #debian
18:04-!-gnugr [~gnugr@91.132.142.236] has quit []
18:09-!-Kuririnmagic [~Kuririnma@ec2-34-229-213-44.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:09-!-Kuririnmagic [~Kuririnma@ec2-34-229-213-44.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #debian
18:09-!-Kuririnmagic is "Kuririnmagic" on #infosec #debian-devel-changes ##brazil #tor-south #redditprivacy #ck #oftc #debian
18:11-!-gnugr [~gnugr@91.132.142.236] has joined #debian
18:11-!-gnugr is "Vangelis Mouhtsis" on #tinycore-lab #oftc #debian-xfce #debian-owncloud #debian-devel-changes #debian #debian-ayatana
18:14-!-helios21 [~quassel@lichtvoll.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:14-!-xzenderc1ge [~xzenderca@203.115.91.54] has joined #debian
18:14-!-xzenderc1ge is "xzendercage" on #debian
18:15-!-helios21 [~quassel@lichtvoll.de] has joined #debian
18:15-!-helios21 is "Martin Steigerwald,,," on #debian
18:16-!-TheSilentLink_ [~TheSilent@host86-162-11-37.range86-162.btcentralplus.com] has joined #debian
18:16-!-TheSilentLink_ is "realname" on #virt #tor-bots #redditprivacy #oftc #help #debian-raspberrypi #debian
18:17-!-r4fkramer [~r4fkramer@45-171-184-131.topnetsp.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:18-!-xzendercage_ [~xzenderca@203.115.91.54] has joined #debian
18:18-!-xzendercage_ is "realname" on #debian
18:19-!-TheSilentLink [~TheSilent@00021ea9.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:20-!-xzendercage_ [~xzenderca@203.115.91.54] has quit []
18:20-!-xzenderc1ge [~xzenderca@203.115.91.54] has quit []
18:22-!-TheSilentLink [~TheSilent@host86-162-11-37.range86-162.btcentralplus.com] has joined #debian
18:22-!-TheSilentLink is "realname" on #virt #tor-bots #redditprivacy #oftc #help #debian-raspberrypi #debian
18:24-!-ElPresidente [~ElPreside@172-125-150-28.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
18:25-!-TheSilentLink_ [~TheSilent@host86-162-11-37.range86-162.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:28-!-maknho_ [~maknho@80.67.179.204] has joined #debian
18:28-!-maknho_ is "maknho" on #debian
18:31-!-HeavyMental [~HeavyMent@cpc90006-warr7-2-0-cust56.1-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
18:31-!-choozy [~choozy@75-63-174-82.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined #debian
18:31-!-choozy is "Choozy V" on #debian
18:32-!-johnjay [~pi@192.142.100.50] has quit []
18:38-!-johnjay [~pi@192.142.100.50] has joined #debian
18:38-!-johnjay is "pi" on #vbox #debian #msys2
18:54-!-tuxd3v [~tuxd3v@93.102.33.166.rev.optimus.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
18:54-!-tuxd3v [~tuxd3v@93.102.33.166.rev.optimus.pt] has joined #debian
18:54-!-tuxd3v is "realname" on #debian
18:56-!-stylesen__ [~stylesen@59.99.101.232] has joined #debian
18:56-!-stylesen__ is "stylesen" on #debian #debian-india
18:56-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
18:57-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
18:57-!-f10 is "f10" on #debian-kde #debian
18:57-!-g485 [~g485@2806:105e:14:92a9:8848:c61:795c:e46f] has joined #debian
18:57-!-g485 is "realname" on #debian
18:57-!-g485 [~g485@2806:105e:14:92a9:8848:c61:795c:e46f] has quit []
19:00-!-stylesen_ [~stylesen@117.221.0.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:01-!-futune [~futune@95.82.135.11] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:01-!-futune [~futune@95.82.135.11] has joined #debian
19:01-!-futune is "realname" on #postmarketos #alpine-linux #debian
19:06-!-ha3mak [~mayerk@playground.ha3mak.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:08-!-Maduro52 [~4564asdf6@148.3.76.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:12-!-A|an [~Alan@173.216.51.200] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:13-!-iiibill [~whm@shelter-3.ca-zephyr.org] has joined #debian
19:13-!-iiibill is "purple" on #debian #packaging
19:19-!-brettgilio [~brettgili@x-node.gq] has quit [Quit: Leaving...]
19:20-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
19:20-!-ha3mak [~mayerk@playground.ha3mak.hu] has joined #debian
19:20-!-ha3mak is "Mayer Károly" on #debian @#penta @#ptettk
19:21-!-brettgilio [~brettgili@x-node.gq] has joined #debian
19:21-!-brettgilio is "Brett Gilio" on #debian #C #alpine-linux
19:22-!-pgimeno [~pgimeno@185.161.43.117] has joined #debian
19:22-!-pgimeno is "Pedro Gimeno" on #debian
19:23-!-iiibill [~whm@shelter-3.ca-zephyr.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
19:23-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:23-!-dvs is "realname" on #debian
19:24-!-dokakuryu [~fudgespin@2403:6200:8880:133d:67f4:be3e:f10f:b67c] has joined #debian
19:24-!-dokakuryu is "Abe Mackenzie" on #oftc #debian-rant #debian-offtopic #debian
19:25-!-SZO [~anon@192.30.89.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:26-!-erentar [~MFMRx@94-225-47-8.access.telenet.be] has quit []
19:26-!-pa [~smuxi@86-95-132-61.fixed.kpn.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
19:26-!-dbx-bill [~whm@shelter-3.ca-zephyr.org] has joined #debian
19:26-!-dbx-bill is "purple" on #debian
19:27-!-dbx-bill [~whm@shelter-3.ca-zephyr.org] has quit []
19:27-!-dbx-bill is "purple" on #debian
19:27-!-dbx-bill [~whm@shelter-3.ca-zephyr.org] has joined #debian
19:27<pgimeno>I'm running oldoldstable (stretch). I installed mariadb but the debian-sys-maint user was not created. /etc/mysql/debian.cnf contained user = root and password = <blank>. What's the script that creates debian-sys-maint? and any idea why it wasn't created?
19:28<pgimeno>forgot to say, that setup has started to be a problem when I changed the password for the MySQL root user
19:28<tuxd3v>hello I wanted my local ntp server to listen only on eth0
19:28<tuxd3v>but it also listens in 0.0.0.0
19:28<tuxd3v>:/
19:29-!-vdamewood is "Vincent Damewood" on #haiku #moocows
19:29-!-vdamewood [~vdamewood@0002b6dc.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:29<tuxd3v>does any one knows how to enforce only eth0 ip is valid to listen?
19:30<tomreyn>configure the ntp server to only listen on the ip address you want it to listen on, or use firewalling.
19:31<tuxd3v>thanks god I already flushed ipv6 out..
19:31-!-khalid [~khalid@148.87.23.12] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
19:31<tuxd3v>tomreyn, How can I do that?
19:31<tomreyn>that'll depend on the ntp server you're using, and whether it can be configured for this
19:31<sussudio>tuxd3v: /etc/ntp.conf, the "broadcast" line.
19:32<sussudio>you could have looked at the conf yourself, ofcourse.
19:33<tuxd3v>sussudio, thanks, I do saw that config, but for me it seems it does anotherthing..
19:34<tuxd3v>ho.. maybe I was looking at the wrong place, :(
19:34<tuxd3v>that line seems to be for broadcasting..
19:35<tuxd3v>I am providing time, but not in broadcast
19:36<minimal>tuxd3v: read the manpage for the config file? I hear they're a good read...
19:39<Sqrt{not}>pgimeno, starting in stretch, mariadb was supposed to replace mysql. I don't think you are supposed to install both of them. debian-sys-maint is created by mysql
19:39-!-fax [~quassel@0002c5b8.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
19:41-!-pemensik_ [~pemensik@46.149.126.14] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
19:42-!-pemensik_ [~pemensik@46.149.126.14] has joined #debian
19:42-!-pemensik_ is "realname" on #debian-next #oftc #debian
19:43-!-euandreh [~euandreh@2804:14c:33:9fe5:ece1:b35e:c9b0:1b9e] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
19:46-!-SZO [~anon@192.30.89.67] has joined #debian
19:46-!-SZO is "anon" on #debian-next #debian
19:46-!-SZO [~anon@192.30.89.67] has quit []
19:47<tuxd3v>minimal, the change that seems to work for me is: 'interface ignore 0.0.0.0'
19:47<pgimeno>Sqrt{not}: I didn't install mysql, sorry if I said MySQL instead of mariadb. Still the directory is /etc/mysql. Any idea what script does the creation? The postinst script maybe?
19:48<pgimeno>oh wait, are you saying mariadb does not create debian-sys-maint?
19:50<Sqrt{not}>pgimeno, I don't run it, so I don't know any more than what I wrote above, sorry.
19:51<pgimeno>ok, thanks anyway
19:52-!-jkc [~jkc@0002bd8a.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
19:52-!-jkc is "jkc" on #linode #debian
19:59-!-awal1 [~awal1@bras-base-mtrlpq0315w-grc-23-70-55-160-158.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
19:59-!-awal1 is "realname" on #debian #debian-next #debian-devel-changes
20:01-!-pi__ [~pi@2600:1700:114a:d110::3e] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:05-!-NomadJim [~Jim@2001:5b0:2d53:92b8:6033:eff0:cae:d998] has joined #debian
20:05-!-NomadJim is "Nomad" on #debian #linode
20:06<pgimeno>ok, found something in /usr/share/doc/mariadb-server-10.1/README.Debian.gz - basically it says that it expects no password, which is a bit of a what the f-word because it prevents connecting as root from the outside
20:08<pgimeno>I've modified /etc/mysql/debian.cnf despite the warning "DO NOT EDIT" to solve my logrotate error
20:09-!-minimal [~minimal@0002b71e.user.oftc.net] has quit []
20:10-!-trylam [~estelle@2a01:e0a:95:5d90:468a:5bff:fe43:8419] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:11<pgimeno>ok, found the script, it's /var/lib/dpkg/info/mariadb-server-10.1.postinst
20:12-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
20:12-!-f10 is "f10" on #debian-kde #debian
20:15-!-f10 [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:15-!-f10_ [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #debian
20:15-!-f10_ is "f10" on #debian
20:15<pgimeno>all clear now, thanks!
20:15-!-pgimeno [~pgimeno@185.161.43.117] has left #debian [This is the default part message]
20:21-!-pi_ [~pi@2600:1700:114a:d110::3e] has joined #debian
20:21-!-pi_ is "pi" on #debian
20:22-!-leonardorocha [~leonardo@2804:14d:882:9ada:c04b:6f17:d3b2:e424] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20:24-!-TheRealSoundWave [~quassel@bras-base-mtrlpq425ow-grc-01-65-92-227-171.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
20:27<tuxd3v>hello guys, I just installed cups
20:27-!-}ls{ [~kalle@000199a5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:27-!-andi- [~andi-@2a00:e67:5c9:b:ae1f:6bff:fe45:be15] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:27-!-}ls{ [~kalle@000199a5.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
20:27-!-}ls{ is "nobody" on #kvm #debian-nginx #debian-lan #debian-kde #debian-django #debian
20:27<tuxd3v>Now I am in the web admin page, but it doesn't find my HP DeskJet
20:28<tuxd3v>I remember in the past that I needed to add some other packages
20:28<tuxd3v>but I don't remember now what packages..
20:29<tuxd3v>maybe printer-driver-hpcups
20:33-!-Brigo_ [~Brigo@40.181.60.213.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:34-!-alpernebbi [~quassel@00029ccd.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:35-!-alpernebbi [~quassel@178.233.26.119] has joined #debian
20:35-!-alpernebbi is "Alper Nebi Yasak" on #debian-next #panfrost #debian #aarch64-laptops ##panfrost-offtopic #packaging
20:37-!-awal1 [~awal1@bras-base-mtrlpq0315w-grc-23-70-55-160-158.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:41-!-andi- [~andi-@2a00:e67:5c9:b:ae1f:6bff:fe45:be15] has joined #debian
20:41-!-andi- is "andi-" on #debian-next #bitlbee #debian #ceph
20:48-!-SoundWave [~quassel@bras-base-mtrlpq425ow-grc-01-65-92-227-171.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
20:48-!-SoundWave is "SoundWave" on #debian
20:50-!-andi- [~andi-@2a00:e67:5c9:b:ae1f:6bff:fe45:be15] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:50-!-euandreh [~euandreh@2804:14c:33:9fe5:eba7:95bb:d099:a7d8] has joined #debian
20:50-!-euandreh is "EuAndreh" on #debian-devel-br #OpenBSD #pax #perl #suckless #C #pipewire #fdroid #mesonbuild #haiku #po4a @#debian-18n #debian
20:56<Sqrt{not}>tuxd3v, did your install pull in ipp-usb? (if your printer is connected via usb?)
20:56<tuxd3v>yeah my printer is USB conected :)
20:57<Sqrt{not}>,i ipp-usb
20:57<judd>Package ipp-usb (comm, optional) in bullseye/amd64: Daemon for IPP over USB printer support. Version: 0.9.17-3+b4; Size: 1750.2k; Installed: 5603k; Homepage: https://github.com/OpenPrinting/ipp-usb
20:58<Sqrt{not}>https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#driverless-operation
21:02-!-callmepk [~callmepk@n1164989236.netvigator.com] has joined #debian
21:02-!-callmepk is "Patrick Wu" on #debian #alpine-linux #debian-wsl
21:03<tuxd3v>Sqrt{not}, many thanks, I believe I could make it work without having installed the 'printer-driver-hpcups' package
21:04<tuxd3v>my Idea would be to disable access to my router, but allow for the rest of the network
21:05<tuxd3v>I don't know if its possible to have one allow, and one deny directive per <Location >?
21:05<tuxd3v>I managed to request authentication, for administration it seems to be working :)
21:07-!-choozy [~choozy@75-63-174-82.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
21:07<tuxd3v>but I don't know if the router can acccess the /admin section or not :/
21:08-!-uos_eric2023 [~quassel@119.4.240.125] has joined #debian
21:08-!-uos_eric2023 is "Quassel IRC 用户" on #debian
21:08-!-andi- [~andi-@2a00:e67:5c9:b:ae1f:6bff:fe45:be15] has joined #debian
21:08-!-andi- is "andi-" on #debian-next #bitlbee #debian #ceph
21:09-!-gerald [~quassel@h082218019119.host.wavenet.at] has quit []
21:12-!-gerald [~quassel@h082218019119.host.wavenet.at] has joined #debian
21:12-!-gerald is "Gerald" on #freedombox #freedombox-dev #debian
21:13-!-ac_laptop [~ac_laptop@2a01:cb1c:3c8:2700:e29d:31ff:fe2d:a258] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:15-!-j_f-f [~quassel@mail2.snct-dialer.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:18-!-j_f-f [~quassel@mail2.snct-dialer.de] has joined #debian
21:18-!-j_f-f is "J\xF6rg Frings-F\xFCrst" on #debian-xfce #debian-games #debconf-miniauditorio #debian #debconf18-taiwan #debian-ubuntu
21:21-!-sidmo__ [~sidmo@p5b24e4a9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian
21:21-!-sidmo__ is "sidmo" on #debian-next #debian
21:23-!-f10_ [~flo@ip5b410a5f.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:25-!-sidmo_ [~sidmo@00026de1.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:28-!-LtL [~debian@0001a4d6.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ]
21:31-!-LtL [~debian@0001a4d6.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
21:31-!-LtL is "debian" on #debian
21:34-!-guiverc [~guiverc@110-175-190-208.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #debian
21:34-!-guiverc is "Chris Guiver" on #debian-ubuntu #debian
21:38-!-chaky1 [~chaky@93-137-1-89.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #debian
21:38-!-chaky1 is "chaky" on #debian
21:38-!-chaky [~chaky@000229c5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:38-!-chaky1 is now known as chaky
21:42-!-sevu is now known as Guest4325
21:42-!-sevu [~sevu@000261e5.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
21:42-!-sevu is "realname" on #moocows #debian
21:48-!-Guest4325 [~sevu@000261e5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
21:54-!-onelegend is "onelegend" on #xen
21:54-!-onelegend [onelegend@triton.blinkenshell.org] has joined #debian
21:57-!-dokakuryu [~fudgespin@2403:6200:8880:133d:67f4:be3e:f10f:b67c] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
21:58-!-}ls{ [~kalle@000199a5.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: real life interrupt]
22:00-!-TheSeeker [~quassel@bras-base-mtrlpq425ow-grc-01-65-92-227-171.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
22:00-!-TheSeeker is "SoundWave" on #debian
22:01-!-Haudegen [~quassel@178.115.237.87.static.drei.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:05-!-nolan [~nolan@phong.sigbus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:07-!-banc [~banc@217.151.98.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:11-!-mimi89999 [cb2cbfa643@89-72-190-170.dynamic.chello.pl] has left #debian []
22:11-!-boistordu_old is "realname" on #debian-nginx #debian-qemu #debian-raspberrypi #debian-ubuntu #debian-xfce #dri-devel #gentoo #freenode #gfortran #haskell #hackerspaces #haiku #guardianproject #help #ifupdown-ng #java #kvm #llvm-build #mitmproxy #NetBSD #netdev #oftc #OpenBSD #php #python #Qubes_OS #redditprivacy #tor-onions #ubuntu #virt #virtualization #wayland #xfs
22:11-!-boistordu_old [~boistordu@193.32.127.134] has joined #debian
22:13-!-kveroneau [kveroneau@node1.veroneau.net] has quit [Quit: Follow my Nick on Twitter and YouTube!]
22:17-!-boistordu_ex [~boistordu@0002bdcc.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:18-!-liquidsnake [~liquidsna@00025245.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:18-!-liquidsnake is "realname" on #debian-offtopic #debian #linux #retroshare
22:18-!-mendel_munkis [~mendelmun@ool-ae2cb218.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:19-!-mendel_munkis [~mendelmun@ool-ae2cb218.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #debian
22:19-!-mendel_munkis is "realname" on #debian #i2p #debian-i18n #debian-gaming #Corsair #minidebconf-online #debian-next
22:21-!-banc [~banc@217.151.98.168] has joined #debian
22:21-!-banc is "banc" on #debian
22:33-!-r4fkramer [~r4fkramer@45-171-184-131.topnetsp.net.br] has joined #debian
22:33-!-r4fkramer is "realname" on #debian
22:34<r4fkramer>Hi all, accidentally I didn't uncheck the GNOME option and ended up installing this DE. As I intend to use this new debian installation for studies of a Database Server, I don't want this graphical environment.
22:34<r4fkramer>However, I fear to cause some damage in the general installation by removing some dependency or package necessary for the correct functioning of the OS.
22:34<r4fkramer>Please, how do I safely remove GNOME without any risk in bullseye 11.1 ?
22:35-!-lonewulf` [~lonewulf@00020897.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
22:35-!-lonewulf` is "U-lonewulf-PC\lonewulf" on #linode #debian-offtopic #debian #oftc
22:35<r4fkramer>A little bit worried because of these comments: https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=133531
22:36-!-ChmEarl [~prymar56@0002b86c.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
22:37<onelegend>debian does not depend on GNOME
22:37<onelegend>just remove it.
22:38<r4fkramer>Please, onelegend, is that correct ? 'apt-get purge gnome-shell
22:39<r4fkramer>Only this ?
22:39<onelegend>yeah
22:39<dvs>gnome uses wayland right? There's nothing you can do about that because other desktop environments don't use it.
22:39<dvs>!remove gnome
22:39<dpkg>To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>).
22:39<dvs>well that's old
22:40<r4fkramer>Fine onelegend and dvs, thank you very much for attention and Great Support !
22:40<onelegend>dvs: GNOME can use X or wayland
22:41<dvs>onelegend: but does any other desktops use wayland?
22:41<onelegend>KDE also has support for wayland
22:43-!-lonewulf` [~lonewulf@00020897.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: leaving]
22:52-!-CeBe [~cebe@2a02:560:4cc0:aa00:9109:c3b0:121a:a8ef] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
22:52-!-liquidsnake [~liquidsna@00025245.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:00-!-dokakuryu [~fudgespin@2403:6200:8880:133d:67f4:be3e:f10f:b67c] has joined #debian
23:00-!-dokakuryu is "Abe Mackenzie" on #oftc #debian-rant #debian-offtopic #debian
23:00-!-CeBe [~cebe@2a02:560:4cce:8900:9109:c3b0:121a:a8ef] has joined #debian
23:00-!-CeBe is "Carsten Brandt" on #debian #packaging
23:04-!-SZO [~anon@192.30.89.67] has joined #debian
23:04-!-SZO is "anon" on #debian-next #debian
23:05-!-ax562 [~ax562@0002ac27.user.oftc.net] has joined #debian
23:05-!-ax562 is "realname" on #debian-offtopic #linux #debian #debian-next
23:07-!-ahmed [~AdminUser@102.40.14.161] has joined #debian
23:07-!-ahmed is "ahmed,,," on #debian
23:09-!-ax562 [~ax562@0002ac27.user.oftc.net] has quit []
23:09-!-ahmed is now known as ChkNet
23:09-!-ChkNet is now known as ahmed
23:10-!-ahmed is now known as ChkNet
23:12<Sqrt{not}>r4fkramer, probably the package that installed gnome for you was "task-gnome-desktop"
23:12-!-awal1 [~awal1@bras-base-mtrlpq0315w-grc-23-70-55-160-158.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
23:12-!-awal1 is "realname" on #debian-devel-changes #debian-next #debian
23:14-!-ChkNet [~AdminUser@102.40.14.161] has left #debian [https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
23:15-!-ahmed [~quassel@102.40.14.161] has joined #debian
23:15-!-ahmed is "ahmed,,," on #debian
23:15<r4fkramer>I really don't know what' happened here Sqrt{not}. Probably it was lack of attention. Anyway it's removed already :) Gnome is fine in Debian - I always used Mate, KDE Plasma and LXQt, but in this particular case, no DE must be included
23:16<Sqrt{not}>r4fkramer, OK, glad to hear it
23:16<r4fkramer>Not experienced in i3wm, I intend to test it as soon as possible.
23:18-!-TheSeeker [~quassel@bras-base-mtrlpq425ow-grc-01-65-92-227-171.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:18-!-SoundWave [~quassel@bras-base-mtrlpq425ow-grc-01-65-92-227-171.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:18-!-SoundWave [~quassel@bras-base-mtrlpq425ow-grc-01-65-92-227-171.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
23:18-!-SoundWave is "SoundWave" on #debian
23:18-!-TheRealSoundWave [~quassel@bras-base-mtrlpq425ow-grc-01-65-92-227-171.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
23:18-!-TheRealSoundWave is "SoundWave" on #debian
23:18<r4fkramer>I must go now. Happy to see you here again Sqrt{not}! Have you a good rest, and Thank you for information and attention !:)
23:18<r4fkramer>See You !
23:18-!-r4fkramer [~r4fkramer@45-171-184-131.topnetsp.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:20-!-ahmed is now known as ChkNet
23:20-!-awal1 [~awal1@bras-base-mtrlpq0315w-grc-23-70-55-160-158.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
23:20-!-awal1 [~awal1@bras-base-mtrlpq0315w-grc-23-70-55-160-158.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian
23:20-!-awal1 is "realname" on #debian #debian-next #debian-devel-changes
23:20-!-dvs [~hibbard@00012127.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:22-!-_Matth_ [~Matth@2409:11:6400:6e00:e5cc:6f92:9055:73a7] has joined #debian
23:22-!-_Matth_ is "realname" on #debian #debian-next
23:24-!-ChkNet is now known as ahmed
23:24-!-ahmed is now known as ChkNet
23:25-!-ChkNet is now known as ahmed
23:27-!-ahmed [~quassel@102.40.14.161] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
23:30-!-ahmed [~quassel@102.40.14.161] has joined #debian
23:30-!-ahmed is "ahmed,,," on #debian
23:35-!-ahmed [~quassel@102.40.14.161] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
23:42-!-nolan [~nolan@phong.sigbus.net] has joined #debian
23:42-!-nolan is "nolan" on #debian #kernelnewbies #debian-raspberrypi
23:46-!-Klaus_Dieter [~klaus@dynamic-089-012-015-143.89.12.pool.telefonica.de] has joined #debian
23:46-!-Klaus_Dieter is "Klaus" on #clair #xorg #debian
23:47-!-lee [~lee@71-135-72-50.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian
23:47-!-lee is "lee" on #debian
23:48-!-Klaus_D1eter_ [~klaus@dynamic-077-013-036-014.77.13.pool.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:48-!-lee [~lee@71-135-72-50.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net] has quit []
---Logclosed Fri Oct 29 00:00:40 2021