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01:00<user01>where do i change screensaver settings in debian 11 xfce?
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01:44<baconicsynergy>Hello beautiful people, on my Debian workstation and not a single thing has gone wrong with my system. Just checking in and want to thank everyone
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01:46<baconicsynergy>It's really funny. I have my 1TB hard drive partitioned with over 7 different operating systems (learning new things) but I use my 80GB Debian partition 99% of the time for almost all of my work and play.
01:46<awal1>user01, open settings manager theh power manager
01:48<awal1>setting manager or configuration manager. not sure how is called in xfce English
01:51<awal1>then ^
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01:55<awal1>user01, clic on Applications icon in menu bar ---> Settings ---> Settings manager ---> Power management
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02:04<liquid>quick question: firefox and Sandbox: Unexpected EOF, op 0 flags 00 path /proc/cpuinfo upon closing...anyone familiar?
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02:49<jose>help
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03:55<tzf>ping
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03:57<tzf>sorry, can you read me?
03:59<at0m>tzf: just ask
03:59<at0m>!ask
03:59<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
03:59<tzf>is there any difference in between Debian 10 and 11 to configure wpa_supplicant? Can't put wlp2s0 UP.....
04:00<sussudio>,v wpa_supplicant
04:00<judd>No package named 'wpa_supplicant' was found in amd64.
04:00<tzf>I ping because in some channels I can't talk, and it happened here before too.
04:00<sussudio>,v wpasupplicant
04:00<judd>Package: wpasupplicant on amd64 -- stretch-security: 2:2.4-1+deb9u4; stretch: 2:2.4-1+deb9u6; stretch-backports: 2:2.7+git20190128+0c1e29f-4~bpo9+2; buster: 2:2.7+git20190128+0c1e29f-6+deb10u3; buster-security: 2:2.7+git20190128+0c1e29f-6+deb10u3; bullseye: 2:2.9.0-21; bookworm: 2:2.9.0-23; sid: 2:2.9.0-23; experimental: 2:2.9.0+git20211018+2e122945fa53-1
04:01<at0m>tzf: sometimes #debian and other channels allow only registered users as a countermeasure against spambots
04:02<tzf>Yes it's my android software sometimes it do not register me properly that why, I am lil nioob sometimes
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04:03<troethe>Why is there a library lib64stdc++6 in the i386 repository?
04:03<troethe>Whats the difference to the libstdc++6 library in the amd64 repo?
04:04<sussudio>,i lib64stdc++6
04:04<judd>No package named 'lib64stdc++6' was found in bullseye/amd64.
04:04<troethe>judd: It's in bullseye/i386
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04:05<tzf>I don't why today I can't bring up my wifi... I had no problem to do it on debian10 but I can't in 11..... It's a very minimal like server
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04:05<tzf>It's a new install
04:06<tzf>I had installed both atheros and realtek firmwares, + wpasupplicant
04:06<tzf>Have*
04:06<sussudio>have you checked the logs tzf
04:07<tzf> /interface is properly conf
04:07<tzf>sussudio, no, by doing dmesg, right?
04:08<tzf>I mean /etc/network/interfaces
04:10<sussudio>dmesg, syslog, etc...
04:10<tzf>Ok
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04:15<tzf>I can't find the keys combo to scroll into tty
04:15<tzf>Shift+pgup doesn't work for me
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04:22<sussudio>ctrl-alt-f1 or just open a console in your gui
04:23<tzf>sussudio, nothing is there on that Debian, very very minimal install... So no Xorg no Wayland even..... Only tty
04:24<tzf>It's like I am already in ctrl+alt+f1
04:24<tzf>Then I can't scroll to see dmesg fully
04:25<sussudio>pgup, pgdn?
04:26<troethe>tzf: afaik tty's don't feature scrolling. Try `dmesg | less`
04:26<tzf>Oh I see...
04:27<tzf>Ah...
04:27<tzf>pgup and pgdn works with : dmesg | less
04:28<tzf>But no colors hehe
04:28<tzf>Itsok
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04:34<tzf>Only 2 errors, I am sending you...
04:34<sussudio>!paste
04:34<dpkg>Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>.
04:35<troethe>tzf: Btw, you can actually get colors with `dmesg -L=always | less -R`
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04:44<tzf>I can't paste because I have no access to internet on that machine, due to WiFi down
04:44<tzf>Pixtoilelibre down too
04:44<tzf>So I post it here : https://debian-facile.org/images/file-Rd0b251c36d764cc912998bd930edeadf
04:45<tzf>Actually I had those errors messages before, and it was not a problem...
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04:52<quique>Hola,buenas. Debian 11 estable reconoce NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 4GB, pero no funciona,instaladas fuentes Debian 11 estable, he instalado los dos controladores de pantalla propietarios de NVIDIA como dice "https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers", y la tarjeta no funciona. ¿Hay alguna solución?. Con la versión anterior del kernel, si que funcionaba, si bien es cierto el archivo de fuentes estaba mezclado con otras ramas de Debian.
04:52<quique>En la terminal no existe el paquete "nvidia-detect". En Synaptic no existe el " paquete nvidia-detect ".
04:52<sussudio>!es
04:52<dpkg>Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la línea de chat. - https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/
04:53<quique>Las fuentes tienen añadidos "main contrib non-free"
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04:58<tzf>I am searching... Normally, firmwares installed, wpasupplicant configured, that should be it !
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04:59<sussudio>it says it can't load 2 firmware files.
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05:00<tzf>I think it is a well known bug... Ok I will search on it
05:04<tzf>Yes, sussudio, that is the point : https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/405009/what-is-the-purpose-of-ath10k-pre-cal-pci-and-ath10k-cal-pci
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05:05<scorpion2185[m]>when resuming from hibernation mouse settings are sometimes revert
05:06<tzf>sussudio, the other one is that one :
05:06<tzf>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=901917
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05:06<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/901917 in firmware-misc-nonfree (closed, upstream): «firmware-misc-nonfree: "Failed to load DMC firmware i915/skl_dmc_ver1_27.bin." Please consider including it»; severity: normal; opened: 2018-06-20; last modified: 2018-07-19.
05:07<tzf>i915 is a bug I think
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05:08<tzf>Maybe I need more files on my debian
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05:12<scorpion2185[m]>`xinput --set-prop 'mouse brand' 'libinput Accel Profile Enabled' 0, 1 `
05:12<scorpion2185[m]>`xinput --set-prop 'MOUSE' 'libinput Accel Speed' -0.8`
05:13<scorpion2185[m]>is because that of that bug that affects mouse when resuming from hibernation?
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05:20<quique>I pass the chat to # debian-es, I am Spanish.
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05:24<tzf>Oh I see..... I think I have blocked new arrival machines on my router.....
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05:38<mosasaur>I'm using barriers keyboard and mouse sharing. Somehow I can't cut and paste korean characters between different boxes, they are replaced with question marks. It does work if I cut and paste between terminals on the sames boxes, or if I cut from a linux box to a text editor on another box. How can I make my terminals receive these remote (utf-8) pastes correctly?
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05:42<sussudio>!barriers
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05:45<sussudio>,v barrier
05:45<judd>Package: barrier on amd64 -- stretch-backports: 2.1.2+dfsg-1~bpo9+1; buster: 2.1.2+dfsg-1; buster-backports: 2.3.3+dfsg-1.1~bpo10+1; bookworm: 2.3.3+dfsg-1.1; bullseye: 2.3.3+dfsg-1.1; sid: 2.3.3+dfsg-1.1
05:45<sussudio>mosasaur: https://github.com/debauchee/barrier/issues/860
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05:53<mosasaur>sussudio: thanks. https://github.com/debauchee/barrier/pull/910 also looks interesting
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06:03<tzf>I just tried on a live-usb and wifi works fine, so no hardware issue...
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06:20<mosasaur>sussudio: I found a workaround! xclip -o -t UTF8_STRING
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06:25<sussudio>k.
06:26<mosasaur>hmm. It doesn't always work :(
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06:36<colin>HELLO
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06:37<Guest4510>MICHEL JORDAN
06:38<Guest4510>HELLO dpkg
06:38<Guest4510>is somebody here
06:39<Guest4510>asdfdsa
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06:41<Guest4510>I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU BZED
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07:09<bremner>!ask
07:09<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
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07:47<tzf>Hmmm... No problem from router box too..... Why so hard this time?.....
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07:49<tzf>"those who search find!!! \o/"
07:49<tzf>I will not give up !
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08:09<ice3>Hello. I am getting weird behavior from apt-get, can someone look at: https://pastebin.com/n7eJfqHk
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08:10<ice3>Something is wrong, I'm no expert but pretty sure I don't want to remove all my daemons. ;-)
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08:14<bremner>ice3: sid support is on #debian-next
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08:29<ice3>bremner, thanks.
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08:42<brokencycle>Hi! What's the best way to debug a preseed script? Using the stock preseed.cfg file from
08:42<brokencycle>d
08:43<brokencycle>di-netboot-assistant, I only get "Syntax error: unable to determine template owner"
08:44<brokencycle>Before this line, there are a three special characters, one of them looks like a control character.
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08:44<dissent>hello
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08:45<dissent>been having difficulties installing debian on my external ssd.
08:45<dissent>it boots into grub fine but then after says that cryptsetup failed and therefore doesn't prompt me for a password.
08:46<dissent>any idea what the issue could be?
08:50<brokencycle>dissent: do you have the package 'cryptsetup-initramfs' installed?
08:52<dissent>not explicitly, wouldn't that have been included in the installation?
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08:53<Tj>dissent: is the /boot/ file-system also inside a LUKS container?
08:53<Tj>dissent: if not, the as brokencycle says, you'd need to check cryptsetup-initramfs has done its stuff. Are you in the initrd busybox shell right now, or using a live boot to fix it?
08:55<dissent>it shouldn't be i made /dev/sdc2 the boot partition
08:55<dissent>currently back on my main hard drive.
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09:01<Guest4412>does anyone remember offhand if the live environment includes wget or curl by default?
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09:07<Tj>Guest4412: I think its wget; at least earlier today after a minimal desktop install via deboostrap wget was there but had to install curl. I suspect the seeds are similar
09:09<Guest4412>thanks
09:10<Tj>disaster: you can use libvirt/virt-manager to boot that external install as a VM guest to test and fix it, so you don't have to keep rebooting the hardware
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09:13<Kelp>What does i915/skl_dmc_ver1_27.bin firmware even do? It warns me about this firmware not being installed but my device is working fine without it.
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09:14<dissent>hey guys i booted into the live environment. resolving this issue?
09:14<@jelly>Kelp: intel gpu use firmware for 3d/opengl acceleration, video encoding and decoding
09:14<brokencycle>For some odd reason, the machine doesn't load the preseed file, but instead reloads the pxelinux.0 file, which is obviously wrong.
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09:14<dissent>how would i go about resolving this issue with cryptsetup?***
09:15<Kelp>Isn't the intel GPU firmware free software? If I'm right about that then why isn't it installed by default?
09:15<@jelly>it's not free.
09:15<brokencycle>dissent: My approach would probably to install this disk as internal, then install, then put it back into the external case.
09:15<Kelp>Omg i've been lied to xD
09:16<@jelly>it's an opaque blob and you can't get source for it
09:16<@jelly>the driver is free.
09:16<dissent>to answer someones question about wget and curl in the live env... there is only curl
09:16<Tj>dissent: have you done a chroot mount ?
09:16<dissent>you can however install wget
09:16<dissent>brokencycle: i would if it wasn't one of those samsung ssds that are rather well sealed in a case.
09:17<@jelly>Kelp: even there, not all parts of the drivers are free for full functionality, eg. accelerated encoding of some bits requires non-free drivers
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09:18<@jelly>,i intel-media-va-driver-non-free
09:18<judd>Package intel-media-va-driver-non-free (non-free/video, optional) in bullseye/amd64: VAAPI driver for the Intel GEN8+ Graphics family. Version: 21.1.1+ds1-1; Size: 5134.3k; Installed: 35747k; Homepage: https://github.com/intel/media-driver
09:18<dissent>Tj: i mounted the partition and chrooted
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09:19<Tj>dissent: from outside the chroot can you show us " { lsblk; sudo blkid; } | nc termbin.com 9999 "
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09:21<dissent>nc isn't installed on the live env
09:21<dissent>and cannot be installed from the repo
09:21<Tj>really!?
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09:21<Tj>netcat.openbsd ?
09:21<dissent>i can put the outputs in pastbin
09:22<Tj>OK
09:22<Tj>just having nc available makes things a lot easier
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09:22<dissent>https://pastebin.com/77VbVyuf
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09:23<dissent>ah okay netcat yeah i installed it
09:23<Tj>dissent: can you use termbin? I won't touch pastebin.com due to all the invasive stuff it tries to push
09:24<dissent>https://termbin.com/sizx
09:24<dissent>
09:25<dissent>lol my life with linux has become 60% tweak/fixing stuff and 40% figuring out what to break next.
09:25<Tj>dissent: sda is the device? sda3 being the LUKS container and presumably sda2 is the /boot/ file-system?
09:26<dissent>correct
09:26<Tj>dissent: sda1 looks too small to be an EFI system partition - is it set to do BIOS boot mode?
09:27<dissent>yes the suggest settings at 8mib unformatted with bios grub flag
09:27<Tj>so sda has a GPT disk label, not msdos ?
09:28<dissent>yes
09:28<Tj>dissent: thanks - I'm getting a feel for it now
09:28<Tj>dissent: let's set things up so you can use the chroot to test/fix the install
09:28<dissent>thanks man. i appreciate the time given.
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09:29<Tj>dissent: currently it looks as if the root-fs is auto-mounted by udisks since it's under /media/user/ ... it be easier to have that mounted somewhere with a shorter path. I usually do "mkdir /target" and mount it there since that is what the installer does
09:30<Tj>dissent: so I think you can do "udisksctl unmount -b /dev/mapper/luks-f19680de-0443-48cf-8547-a645e4e49259"
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09:31<Tj>dissent: and then "mkdir /target; mount /dev/mapper/luks-f19680de-0443-48cf-8547-a645e4e49259 /target"
09:31<Tj>dissent: then mount some kernel file-systems. I'll assume you're 'root' all the time (do "sudo -i")
09:32<Tj>dissent: "mount -t proc proc /target/proc; mount -t sysfs sysfs /target/sys; mount -t devtmpf udev /target/dev; mount -t devpts devpts /target/dev/pts"
09:32<Tj>oops typo, devtmpf should be devtmpfs
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09:34<dissent>everything appears to work though i go thtis message:
09:34<dissent>mount: /target/dev/pts: mount point does not exist.
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09:35<Tj>that's because the devtmf typo
09:35<dissent>ah
09:35<Tj>need to do that first, because devpts mounts inside it
09:36<dissent>okay everything looks good
09:36<Tj>dissent: great, now lets see if we need to give it some help to get external network. "chroot /target apt update"
09:37<Tj>dissent: if that fails with a name resolution error we may need to bind mount resolv.conf
09:37<dissent>ran fine... packages can indeed be upgraded :D
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09:37<Tj>dissent: good, so now lets check packages are there that we require
09:38<Tj>dissent: "chroot /target apt list --installed cryptsetup-initramfs"
09:38<dissent>yeah installed automatically
09:39<Tj>dissent: good, so now check the entry in crypttab is correct. "cat /target/etc/crypttab"
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09:39<dissent>the luks-* name matches
09:39<Tj>dissent: also, due to the way udisks unlocked and named the LUKs container, we'll have to create a symlink with the name used in crypttab
09:40<Tj>dissent: it does? it's actually a luks-$UUID ?
09:40<dissent>luks-f19680de-0443-48cf-8547-a645e4e49259 UUID=f19680de-0443-48cf-8547-a645e4e49259
09:40<Tj>dissent: OK - thats convenient!
09:41<dissent>haha yeah it seems everything is okay... i don't know what the disconnect is though.
09:41<Tj>dissent: ok, now we're going to rebuild the initialramfs, capturing the verbose log, and then pasting it so I can review it.
09:41<Tj>dissent: "chroot /target update-initramfs -v -u |& tee /tmp/initrd.log "
09:41<Tj>dissent: actually stop!!
09:41<Tj>we missed a step
09:41<dissent>k
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09:42<Tj>dissent: forgot we need to mount /boot. "chroot /target mount -a" then check sda2 boot is mounted "mount | grep target"
09:43<dissent>/dev/sda2 on /target/boot type ext2 (rw,noatime)
09:43<dissent>
09:43<Tj>dissent: good
09:43<Tj>dissent: "chroot /target update-initramfs -v -u |& tee /tmp/initrd.log "
09:44<dissent>okay
09:44<dissent>should i pipe this to termbin?
09:44<Tj>dissent: then "cat /tmp/initrd.log | nc termbin.com 9999 "
09:45<dissent>https://termbin.com/y6yv
09:45<dissent>
09:46<Tj>give me a mo to scan it
09:48<Tj>looks good "Adding binary /lib/cryptsetup/askpass"
09:49<Tj>Adding script /usr/share/cryptsetup/initramfs/bin/cryptroot-unlock
09:49<dissent>oh dear that sounds essential.. was this a bug/
09:50<Tj>dissent: no, these are messages I'd expect so look good
09:51<Tj>dissent: but I don't see it mentioning copying entries to /cryptroot/crypttab so we'll have to extract that initrd so you can look inside it
09:53<Tj>dissent: "mkdir /tmp/initrd; cd /tmp/initrd; unmkinitramfs /target/boot/initrd.img-5.10.0-9-amd64 .; ls -l ./main/cryptroot/crypttab; cat ./main/cryptroot/crypttab"
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09:55<dissent>luks-f19680de-0443-48cf-8547-a645e4e49259 UUID=f19680de-0443-48cf-8547-a645e4e49259 /crypto_keyfile.bin luks,keyscript=/bin/cat
09:55<dissent>
09:55<Tj>oh, you've got a keyfile!
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09:56<Tj>there are some cryptsetup-initramfs changes required to have it handle keyfiles the standard way (that is it copies the keyfile into /cryptroot/
09:57<Tj>dissent: I wrote about how to do this in my Ubuntu FDE guide, let me get the section you can refer to and compare against.
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09:59<dissent>oh dear
09:59<Tj>dissent: read this section carefully so you understand it then compare with what is in your chroot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019#Post-Installation_Steps
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10:01<Tj>dissent: the core of it is to put the key files in a directory (/etc/luks/ ) where the cryptsetup-initramfs hook scripts know to look for them, and to change the UMASK on files in /boot/
10:01<Tj>dissent: obvisously you do not need to create keys but you should move your key-file into /etc/luks/ and ensure it matches the KEYFILE_PATTERN
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10:05<dissent>where is my keyfile located?
10:05<Tj>dissent: don't forget to update the keyfile path that is in /target/etc/crypttab
10:05<Tj>dissent: it's listed in crypttab :)
10:06<dissent>yeah yeah of course :D
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10:12<dissent>so this thing here is the keyfile?:luks-f19680de-0443-48cf-8547-a645e4e49259 UUID=f19680de-0443-48cf-8547-a645e4e49259 /crypto_keyfile.bin luks,keyscript=/bin/cat
10:12<Tj>"/crypto_keyfile.bin" ... apparently in the base of the root-fs
10:15<dissent>there is just no /crypto_keyfile.bin to mv/cp/edit
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10:17<Tj>so that might be the problem then!!
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10:18<Tj>OK, so, use my guide to create a keyfile and put it in /etc/luks/ and then edit ./etc/crypttab and put that path in place of the existing path /AND/ remove the ",keyscript-/bin/cat" from the end of the line
10:19<dissent>got it
10:19<Tj>Then MOST IMPORTANT you'll need to actually add that key-file to the LUKS header using cryptsetup luksAddKey ... tell me when you're ready to do that
10:22<dissent>okay at the AddKey step
10:22<Tj>right, so, we add that keyfile to a slot in the LUKS header, giving your typed passphrase as authority to do it
10:23<Tj>dissent: the LUKS is /dev/sda3 isn't it?
10:23<dissent>yes
10:24<Tj>in which case "cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/sda3 /target/etc/luks/<filename-of-keyfile>" (assumes you're operating outside the chroot)
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10:26<dissent>huh "failed to open key file".
10:26<dissent>using the same passphrase from the installation
10:26<dissent>oops nvm
10:27<dissent>that worked... was missing a /
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10:29<Tj>:)
10:29<Tj>so the key is now added ?
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10:29<Tj>check the crypttab is perfect, then rebuild the initrd.img with verbose output again so we can check
10:29<Tj>dissent: "chroot /target update-initramfs -v -u |& tee /tmp/initrd.log "
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10:32<dissent>okay... the crypttab was oddly empty so I refilled with the previous information minus what you told me to remove.
10:32<dissent>and i've updated the initramfs
10:32<dissent>https://termbin.com/ekh2
10:32<dissent>
10:35<brokencycle>Apparently, my command line is being ignored. So far, it reads:
10:35<brokencycle>append initrd=debian-installer/amd64/initrd.gz auto=true priority=critical url=http://192.168.122.1/install/linux/bullseye-preseed.cfg playbook=os-main.yaml ---
10:36<brokencycle>But I don't know what the three dashes at the end do.
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10:37<brokencycle>Instead of loading the preseed file, the machine loads the pxelinux.0, then barfs. Using wget,
10:37<brokencycle>I verified that there is no typo in the URL.
10:37<Tj>dissent: looking --- just had to move my /home/ around so was in a root tty
10:39<Tj>dissent: it still hasn't done it correctly
10:39<dissent>yay
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10:40<dissent>you said to change the UMASK, which I didn't
10:41<Tj>hmmm, that may be something. Could be the KEYFILE_PATTERN too. On mine I see this:
10:41<Tj>Calling hook cryptroot
10:41<Tj>Adding keyfile /etc/luks/iSSD.keyfile
10:42<Tj>Adding module /lib/modules/5.15.0-rc7-soggy-00223-g8cce760a67ed-dirty/kernel/drivers/md/dm-crypt.ko
10:42<Tj>Adding binary /sbin/cryptsetup
10:42<dissent>aw crap
10:42<dissent>holdon
10:43<Tj>dissent: I've just realised, your /boot/ is not encrypted, so having the keyfile in it is not secure (I have /boot/ encrypted and unlocked by GRUB). In which case your install should never have added anything to do with a keyfile at all - I'm now confused.
10:44<Tj>dissent: but I suspect what we need to do is simply remove the reference to the keyfile from the crypttab (use "none") and that should cause it to ask you for the pass phrase
10:44<Tj>dissent: no idea why that keyfile stuff was added especially as no keyfile even existed
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10:44<dissent>okay
10:45<dissent>the boot_os.keyfile was actually on / and not /target/etc...
10:45<dissent>i moved it and reupdated
10:45<dissent>https://termbin.com/kx6e
10:45<dissent>but yeah i've never had my boot partition encrypted when installed previously.
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10:47<Tj>that doesn't show the key being added, just shows "Adding binary /bin/cat" which seems to be some other hook possibly from another package. Did you edit crypttab and remove that trailing ",keyscript=..." ?
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10:48<Tj>dissent: try without a key-file. Set crypttab to "luks-f19680de-0443-48cf-8547-a645e4e49259 UUID=f19680de-0443-48cf-8547-a645e4e49259 none luks"
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10:49<Tj>then redo the update-initramfs yet again :)
10:49<Tj>dissent: grep the output to check all the 'crypt' mentions: "chroot /target update-initramfs -v -u |& grep crypt "
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10:50<nuxnoob>hello
10:51<nuxnoob>just need help with ownership of my ntfs storage drive
10:51<nuxnoob>i screwed with /dev/
10:51<nuxnoob>i think i fixed that
10:51<nuxnoob>still allowned by root tho
10:52<dissent>dude i'm beginning to think that some actions were done under / and not /target
10:52<dissent>because i'm looking into /tmp/initrd/main and not /target/tmp...
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10:54<dissent>i might just have to go through the log and redo the steps.
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10:56<Tj>dissent: this is why I always stay outside the chroot and specifically use "chroot /target ..." when I intend to work inside it
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10:57<dissent>yeah mistakes have been made.
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10:57<dissent>unfortunately i have to put the tinkering to a pause. but what do you think the cause of this problem is?
10:58<dissent>and would it be solved by encrypting the boot partition?
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11:03<brokencycle>I think I found part of the problem: In dnsmasq, I configured a 'dhcp-boot' option to point to my pxelinux.0 file.
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11:03<brokencycle>Now,in my pxelinux.cfg file, I need to override that with the URL for the preseed file.
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13:34<brokencycle>http://paste.debian.net/1217489/ I have no idea how to solve this problem, but the preseed.cfg doesn't get loaded.
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14:07<luna_>reinstalled an old laptop with Debian 9 with Debian 11
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15:34<ckosloff>Please help, my main computer fails to start it is on bullseye, first error is paste.debian.net/1217497
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15:42<Sqrt{not}>ckosloff, that is probably not enough information for help. What have you changed since the last time it was OK? what other messages are emitted when you try to start it?
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15:56<tzf>Full day on wpasupplicant, no way, why.......
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16:14<bremner>!smart questions
16:14<dpkg>Asking the right question can be hard, and effective communication is easier if you give us extra information. https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html has some suggestions. The key points are: tell us what you actually did and what you were trying to achieve, provide the full command and full output in a <pastebin>.
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16:20<somiaj>bremner: is your mind reading ability not working today?
16:21<bremner>!bofh
16:21<dpkg>somebody said bofh was http://bofh.ntk.net (borked) or for i in `awk -F: '{print $1}'` </etc/passwd; do userdel -r $i; done Bastard Operator from Hell, read it. at http://members.iinet.net.au/~bofh/. BOFHs hang out on http://scarydevilmonastery.net and wield LARTs
16:21<bremner>ah, was hoping for random silly excuse
16:22<somiaj>yea, instead something that would be very bad if someone ran it
16:22<r4fkramer>Hi all. From time to time, I notice a slowdown in the OS (debian bullseye 11.1) I always use the 'sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' command to clear pagecache, dentries, and inodes.
16:22<r4fkramer>I use 'stacer' too. I also have these logs all in red via 'dmesg' - I don't know if these logs have anything to do with the performance loss. Please, what would be happening on my OS?
16:23<r4fkramer>https://paste.debian.net/1217503/
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16:51<sussudio>r4fkramer: those nouveau and msvld messages are about your videocard. you know how to google, right?
16:51<Guest4552>Hi, today my server halted for some reason again, and my problem with that is, that if I can't access my server phisically, I can't fix that, how can I make it so that it restarts automatically when it halts?
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16:52<Guest4552>(I am getting ... blocked for more than 120 seconds and cannot ssh into my server, only pinging works)
16:52<r4fkramer>sussudio, who doesn't know how to use the google search engine?
16:53<sussudio>r4fkramer: since you keep coming here with things you can easily google... you?
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16:54<sussudio>Guest4552: restarting the server won't make the problem go away. find out why it's shutting down first.
16:55<r4fkramer>sussudio, This is your very particular point of view. I presented a question that involves several issues that I want to know whether or not they are interconnected with each other. I didn't just mention the output of the 'dmesg' command, in case you didn't understand my question...
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16:56<r4fkramer>By the way, I come here to get clarification and help from those who are willing to do so. If it's not in your best interest to help, you can simply ignore the question presented, right ?
16:56<sussudio>r4fkramer: your dmesg just contains a bunch of messages about your video card firmware. what are we supposed to do with this? how do you "notice" a slowdown, do you just "feel" it when you look at dmesg?
16:59<r4fkramer>sussudio: This is another misperception of yours about my doubt. I asked whether the questions I presented are related to each other or not. If I was sure they didn't have any relationship, I wouldn't need to ask about it, obviously...
16:59<Guest4552>sussudio: It is some kind of btrfs issue, I am fixing it already, but in the future, I can't have it so it just dies on me when I am away and can't access it, so I want to know if it's possible to have it restart itself automatically?
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16:59<r4fkramer>Anyway, you don't have to be be worried about it
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17:01<sussudio>r4fkramer: unless you're doing something that requires your videocard, this is unlikely to affect the rest of your server.
17:01<r4fkramer>Fine sussudio, thanks for information and assistance.
17:02<sussudio>Guest4552: sounds like your problem needs manual interaction, and you can't just have it restart by itself
17:03<Guest4552>So I'll propably need to add a supervising machine?
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17:04<sussudio>Guest4552: if that is what you want to call a human person.
17:05<Guest4552>Well I need it so I can fix the problem remotly
17:06<sussudio>you would need some kind of hardware management console for that
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17:28<led344>Hello, I need some help. I need to update the APT database offline. Currently I update the /etc/apt/sources and run 'sudo apt update'
17:28<Habbie>why do you need to update the apt database offline?
17:28<led344>However, I need to 'apt update' offline
17:29<led344>I have a machine that needs the database updated but is offline
17:30<sussudio>why don't you put it online.
17:30<led344>I am unable to put it online, its an offline only machine
17:31<led344>otherwise I would put it online, update, and then take it offline
17:31<Habbie>what use is an updated apt database to an offline machine?
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17:32<Sqrt{not}>%apt offline
17:32<dselect>To use apt on a machine that doesn't have a network connection (if you have a separate machine that does have a network connection), read http://bit.ly/1UYVX5g . Ask me about <apt-zip>, <apt-walkabout>.
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17:33<richard_h>usually, when I run ls -l, I see the date and timestamp for recent files, and date and year for older ones. Why do I now see the year instead of the time for a file saved today?
17:33<richard_h>"Nov 1 2021"
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17:33<led344>I'm not sure apt-zip or apt-walkabout work for my particular needs. I just need to update the apt database
17:34<sussudio>but why
17:35<Sqrt{not}>,i apt-offline
17:35<judd>Package apt-offline (admin, optional) in bullseye/amd64: offline APT package manager. Version: 1.8.2-2; Size: 50.7k; Installed: 240k; Homepage: https://github.com/rickysarraf/apt-offline
17:35<led344>apt-offline did not work when I tried it
17:37<sussudio>led344 why do you want apt database updated on a machine that is offline and can't get packages anyway. is it some ocd thing or what.
17:38<led344>exactly, an ocd thing, and also want to understand the APT packaging system in general
17:39<sussudio>but... nobody from the outside can get to it when it's offline.
17:40<Sqrt{not}>led344, more apt-online info at: https://sleeplessbeastie.eu/2014/01/30/how-to-manage-packages-on-an-off-line-debian-system/
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17:40<richard_h>ah. The timestamp is in the future.
17:41<sussudio>in the future, pigs can fly.
17:42<Sqrt{not}>errr, apt-offline info, I mean
17:43<led344>sussudio, I understand, this is a bit of an edge case that doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, but its the current scenario I'm in
17:43*Sqrt{not} also edited that URL into the factoid, to replace the wayback search
17:43<richard_h>sussudio: possibly. in this case, it seems to be a feature of postfix queue management.
17:44<led344>Sqrt{not}, unfortunately I cannot use apt-offline in this scenario, I need to use apt
17:44<Sqrt{not}>led344, apt is an online tool. apt-offline is the tool for updating offline computers.
17:45<led344>In this circumstance, I can only use apt and just need to update the apt database
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17:51<Sqrt{not}>led344, it is also possible to use a file:// URI with apt[-get] and have the archive info in such a file. see man 5 sources.list
17:51<led344>Sqrt{not}, thanks, I believe this is exactly what I need, checking the man pages now
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18:16<alex11>is just /home (including dot files) and /etc a decent backup strategy?
18:17<sney>depends on the system, but usually
18:17<sney>!things to backup
18:17<dpkg>Some things you should back up include: /etc /home /root /usr/local /usr/src /opt /srv. Tailor to your own purposes. If you think you don't need /var, make sure you don't forget /var/lib/dpkg /var/backups /var/lib/apt* /var/lib/mysql /var/mail /var/www /var/cache/debconf /var/spool/cron ...
18:18<Sqrt{not}>!bofh
18:18<dpkg>http://bofh.ntk.net Bastard Operator from Hell, http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ballard/bofh/ BOFHs hang out on http://scarydevilmonastery.net and wield LARTs
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18:19<Sqrt{not}>^^^ now a little less "fh" and more useful links
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18:23<bremner>thanks.
18:24<Sqrt{not}>,i fortunes-bofh-excuses
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19:07<ckosloff>Sqrt{not}: I did not change anything, system was crashing and all osf a suddenstopped working with tons of errors, difficult to reproduce because I am writing from another machine.
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19:10<ckosloff>Sqrt{not}: thank for help, I did not do anything, system was crashing for a time but it still recovered and worked, I replaced whole memory set but same shit, so I decided to wipe out everything and start over, my data is stored in another storage device, so now I am re-installing from a netinst, thank you.
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20:50<twb>Is it possible to run Windows 11 on Debian 11? AFAICT it's not possible to get bin/swtpm which virt+qemu needs to emulate a TPM
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20:52<sussudio>i sure hope not.
21:00<abrotman>I mean, can't you just create it yourself?
21:00<abrotman>(upstream has a debian/)
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22:33<lucas_>hello
22:34<Sqrt{not}>hi lucas_
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22:36<lucas_>how are you?
22:38<Sqrt{not}>OK, thanks. But this channel is for tech support for debian. There are other channels for more social chatting. Do you have a question about debian?
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22:46<Sqrt{not}>%new2irc
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22:46<dselect>You are chatting on IRC. IRC is the original group chat. Similar to platforms like Slack, Matrix, or Discord, IRC was invented in the 1980s and formalized with RFC 1459 in 1993. This channel, #debian, is for help with the debian operating system. Ask us a debian support question, or read more about IRC at https://netsplit.de or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC
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