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---Logopened Fri Nov 05 00:00:50 2021
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00:04<freq>hey
00:04<freq>when i startx, my mouse doesn't move
00:04<freq>and keyboard doesn't work
00:06<ofto>Dresden2: https://alternativeto.net/software/gnuplot/
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00:08<Dresden2>Otter: cheers
00:08<Dresden2>tuxd3v: I'd prefer something with a license that isn't a bit weird. I honestly thought (for years) gnuplot was a GNU thing
00:08<Sqrt{not}>freq, is it debian now, or still kali?
00:09<freq>debian
00:10<freq>rly
00:11<freq>!ideas
00:11<dpkg>Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of string, a little vegemite, and 5 or 6 starving goats. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few minutes!
00:11<freq>oic
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00:11<Sqrt{not}>freq, how did you install your X server? which version?
00:11<Dresden2>I sense that was one funny and not as cringy as it's become in the modern world
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00:12<freq>1.20.11
00:12<freq>apt
00:12<freq>netinstall
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00:14<Sqrt{not}>did you install any desktop in the last part when it asks you what tasks you want to install?
00:15<freq>no
00:17<freq>this is bullseye
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00:19<Sqrt{not}>sorry, it is a long time since I just used startx, and I don't remember what else I needed back then.
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00:19<freq>12:00
00:19<Sqrt{not}>what do you get from startx? is the mouse pointer there, but it just does not move?
00:19<freq>yes exactly
00:19<freq>and i can't use keyboard shortcuts
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00:20<Sqrt{not}>did you install from the non-free "firmware" netinstall, or the plain free-only netinst?
00:20<freq>non-free
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00:21<Sqrt{not}>do you have a window manager or anything? what do you think should be implementing keyboard shortcuts? and man page I can look at?
00:21<Sqrt{not}>s/and/any/ ?
00:21<freq>dwm
00:22<freq>alt+p should bring up dmenu
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00:24<Sqrt{not}>%dwm
00:24<dselect>dwm (dynamic window manager) can manage windows in tiling and floating modes. http://dwm.suckless.org/ #suckless at irc.oftc.net. See also <window manager>.
00:24<Sqrt{not}>I think that irc channel is active here, they might know more than I do
00:25<freq>i tried openbox and also i3
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00:27<Sqrt{not}>freq, did you let dwm install its recommended other packages?
00:27<freq>yeah
00:27<freq>installed it via apt
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00:28<tuxd3v>Dresden2, to be honest I believe I have always used gnuplot
00:28<tuxd3v>even in octave
00:28<tuxd3v>and maxima
00:28<tuxd3v>but octave has maybe an option that is not gnuplot
00:28<Sqrt{not}>freq, so you have installed "suckless-tools" and "x11-xserver-utils" ?
00:29<freq>yes and dwm with stterm
00:29<freq>which worked, mind you
00:29<freq>then i rebooted after an upgrade and it stopped
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00:29<Sqrt{not}>freq, aha. that doesn't sound good.
00:32<freq>it didn't make a sound
00:32<tuxd3v>Dresden2, yeah gnuplot already has qt,fltk,gnuplot as options
00:33<tuxd3v>but those others than gnuplot are done via opengl, and in those options... you have only single presision gloating point :/
00:33<tuxd3v>https://octave.org/doc/v6.4.0/Introduction-to-Plotting.html#Introduction-to-Plotting
00:33<Sqrt{not}>freq, can you share your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin?
00:35<freq>it's bullseye, i have no gui to use pastebin
00:35<tuxd3v>gloating -> floating
00:35<tuxd3v>lol :D
00:35<tuxd3v>!error
00:35<dpkg>user error at console, abort, retry, fail? See also <doesn't work>, <errors>.
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00:36<tuxd3v>Dresden2, I mean gnuplot -> octave
00:36<tuxd3v>:/
00:37<tuxd3v>octave already has 2 new forms of doing plots via opengl, but single precision floating point..
00:38<Sqrt{not}>%termbin
00:38<dselect>you can paste to termbin.com from terminal with redirections: try 'nc termbin.com 9999 < /path/to/file', or 'command | nc termbin.com 9999'
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00:40<freq>what does that have to do with anything
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00:41<Sqrt{not}>freq, <shrug> you said it stopped working after you did an upgrade.
00:41<freq>it's buster
00:41<Sqrt{not}>if it is secret, that is OK, I'm off to bed
00:41<freq>er
00:42<tuxd3v>Dresden2, maxima can use Xmaxima or Geomview apart from gnuplot
00:42<freq>bullseye
00:42<tuxd3v>!bullseye
00:42<dpkg>Bullseye is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 11, released 2021-08-14. Bullseye is Woody's horse in Toy Story 2, see https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBullseye . Ask me about <install bullseye>, <release notes>, <buster->bullseye> <bullseye-security>.
00:42<freq>yeah
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01:28<anjan>so Im running debian stable and installed all updates. I got a suspicious email and I clicked the links
01:28<anjan>should I reinstall or am I probably fine
01:28<anjan>the links had "javascript ;false"
01:29<anjan>and another one took me to a page with a textfile
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01:34<tuxd3v>!suspicious email
01:34<tuxd3v>like a tought
01:34<tuxd3v>now that guy knows your internet public IP
01:34<anjan>sorry what do you mean tuxd3v
01:35<tuxd3v>and could be that he probably will try to find a vulnerability
01:35<anjan>I did try to click on the links...
01:35<tuxd3v>if he finds, he gets in the midle
01:35<anjan>on the javascript;false and weblink to txt file
01:36<tuxd3v>you should never open a email that you find tricky :)
01:36<anjan>ya. the thing was, this email was pretty good
01:36<tuxd3v>yeah, I got that :)
01:36<anjan>they were issuing a dmca takedown on my site
01:37<anjan>they had my name down, didnt ask for money, good spelling, etc.
01:37<anjan>tuxd3v: but do I have anything to worry about? I nuked ~/.mozilla
01:37<anjan>should I reinstall or do anything else?
01:37<tuxd3v>I don't know what the email does, usually they target windows users
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01:38<tuxd3v>navigate in private mode, like I do
01:38<tuxd3v>I believe you should use a firewall in first place
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01:38<anjan>tuxd3v: ya, I use openwrt on my router
01:38<tuxd3v>but I don't thing it could be the case for that
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01:39<tuxd3v>I also mean use a firewall in your computer
01:39<tuxd3v>;)
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01:40<tuxd3v>like gufw for example
01:40<anjan>ya i installed ufw
01:40<tuxd3v>enable it
01:41<tuxd3v>in relation to the router, if some one wanted to make you harm, that person now has your IP address
01:41<tuxd3v>check if the email address were that email come if the domain is valid
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01:42<anjan>It came from a website with lorem ipsum
01:42<tuxd3v>do a nslookup for that domain and see if its valid at least
01:42<tuxd3v>ho I see its fake
01:42<anjan>then the same email came from lebanesegirlsouts
01:42<anjan>ya
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01:43<tuxd3v>one of the problems of opening emails and clicking things is that the attacker is colecting the ip addresses that conect to that place..
01:43<tuxd3v>so later he tries to attack them..
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01:44<anjan>attack how?
01:44<anjan>I just have bittorrent running with that port open
01:44<tuxd3v>find vulnerabilities in you router
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01:44<anjan>should i close it? lol
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01:45<tuxd3v>there are very bad people in this work, I could call them "junkie people" that takes satisfaction doing harm to others..
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01:45<tuxd3v>you have it open on the router?
01:45<anjan>tuxd3v: ya
01:46<anjan>I guess I should close it
01:46<tuxd3v>well its better to close yeah
01:46<anjan>ok I should go to sleep soon
01:46<anjan>tuxd3v: Ill be ok right
01:46<anjan>I didnt just get epicly owned tonight right
01:46<tuxd3v>its ok
01:47<tuxd3v>go to sleep we talk later :)
01:47<anjan>wait
01:47<anjan>I didnt get epicly owned right
01:47<anjan>LOL
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01:48<tuxd3v>I don't know, but probably not.. you opened a html page right?
01:48<anjan>I opened the html email
01:48<anjan>the link on it took me to a page with a txt file
01:48<anjan>the other links on it had javascript;false
01:49<anjan>should i reinstall just to be safe
01:49<anjan>i have no idea
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01:49<tuxd3v>lorem ipsum was that page?
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01:50<tuxd3v>maybe your site was attacked
01:50<anjan>no the txt page had some binary
01:50<tuxd3v>can you access it?
01:50<tuxd3v>binary?
01:50<anjan>https://momi.ca/
01:50<anjan>works fine
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01:50<anjan>ya, the link that wasnt javascript; false was a txt page
01:50<anjan>Ill pm it to you
01:51<tuxd3v>I will not open it
01:51<anjan>ok lol
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01:52<tuxd3v>but the domain seems suspicious at least :)
01:52<tuxd3v>as a last resort, reboot your machine to be sure there are no process runing, I would reboot :)
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01:54<anjan>ok I will reboot
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01:54<anjan>thanks tuxd3v
01:54<anjan>a quick search says dont worry, browsers are sandboxed
01:54<tuxd3v>no problem
01:55<tuxd3v>hope you surf the web safely
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01:58<anjan>htop doesnt show anything suspicious
01:58<anjan>I guess im fine
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02:03<tuxd3v>you also deleted all the browser cache and such, you should be good
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02:10<anjan>ya true
02:10<tuxd3v>run a find command and check for last modified files like: find $HOME -mtime -1 -mmin -60
02:10<anjan>oh ya, thats smart
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02:11<tuxd3v>when you have open those links?
02:11<tuxd3v>see the time if its inside that envelope
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02:12<tuxd3v>and then run the comand check for files that you think are strange in the system
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02:12<anjan>nuking ~/.mozilla nukes the browser cache right
02:13<anjan>I dont need to rm -rf .cache
02:13<tuxd3v>yeah deleting that folder should delete everything
02:13<anjan>theres stuff in here that I thought wouldnt be here lol
02:13<anjan>like my backups...
02:13<tuxd3v>don't touch them
02:14<tuxd3v>:)
02:14<tuxd3v>the backups are good things :)
02:14<anjan>ya, I have 3 locations to backup
02:14<anjan>as you can tell, I am a very paranoid person
02:14<anjan>ya, I think I can trust debian and firefox
02:15<anjan>I dont know what that email was trying to get from me
02:15<anjan>I guess it got my ip address but Im using openwrt
02:15<anjan>so good luck
02:15<tuxd3v>check for things like .bashrc if it was changed for example or .profile
02:15<anjan>oh, I have those in version control
02:15<anjan>so that will be easy check
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02:16<tuxd3v>well bugs in openwrt does exist, and they try to exploit them.. this world is nasty
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02:16<anjan>ya but atleast Im not using the stock router with default password
02:16<anjan>people usually go for lowest hanging fruit
02:16<anjan>and theres plenty of those
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02:17<tuxd3v>a good thing would be to disconect the router and be like 1 day of internet, for sure when you conect up the router it will pick another IP address than what it have now, and ...you are safe again :)
02:17<tuxd3v>anjan, agree openwrt at least gives you a taste of security..
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02:18<tuxd3v>a lot of things out there are very well created full of bugs the developers and the company after sales don't care
02:18<tuxd3v>and your equipement get owned with things like that
02:19<anjan>ya, Im happy I put in the time to setup my openwrt router. It took an entire day from me
02:19<anjan>but I have a meeting tomorrow
02:19<anjan>and I cant afford to lose it
02:21<tuxd3v>just make sure you have all ports clesed on the router
02:21<tuxd3v>in that scenario you have 2 layers of protection, router and later the firewall in your pc
02:21<tuxd3v>:)
02:22<anjan>tuxd3v: port forwards have This section contains no values yet
02:22<anjan>=)
02:22<anjan>I should install a firewall on my laptop
02:22<tuxd3v>anjan, you should
02:22<tuxd3v>!gufw
02:23<tuxd3v>do the trick and its easy to setup you just need to enable it after install
02:23<anjan>gufw is a gui version of ufw right
02:23<tuxd3v>right :)
02:23<anjan>I use ufw
02:23<anjan>I maintain the package on alpine lol
02:23<anjan>so Im super used to it
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02:23<tuxd3v>nice :)
02:25<anjan>ya I think Im fine
02:25<anjan>I dont know why I thought reinstalling would help
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02:25<anjan>since Im not running firefox as root
02:25<anjan>and I was gonna use the same home partition
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02:26<tuxd3v>if there are no extra files, or basic files that your system needs changed you need not to worry
02:27<anjan>ya, I rm -rf'd .cache too
02:27<tuxd3v>:)
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02:32<hhjd>I got an expired when I try to update debian
02:32<hhjd>expired signing key
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03:00<coc0nut>if i insert another disk into a machine, and wants to install debian on it. do i have to install grub on the previous disk ? or do i just install it on the new disk and it works dual booting ?
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03:02<jm_>there's no single answer to that, it all depends on your setup etc.
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03:04<coc0nut>i have another m2 slot in my laptop here, and wants to use linux as its only 8gb ram in it. but still want to let the current system be so buying a new m2 disk and install debian on it. guess ill just have to try :p
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03:05<jm_>ahh so it's uefi then?
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03:05<coc0nut>i guess
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03:05<jm_>then you need to install it into EFI system partition anyway
03:06<coc0nut>so when prompted for grub installation, i choose the previuous disk with windows on it?
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03:08<coc0nut>or is it actaully ok switching boot options in bios ? :p for changing systems
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03:08<jm_>maybe go with new disk first, see if it copied stuff to ESP, and you should be able to select debian in boot menu somewhere
03:08<jm_>you can always boot debian using installer in rescue mode to fix stuff later if needed
03:09<coc0nut>yeah
03:09<jm_>I haven't dealt with windows and uefi yet, so don't want to lead you in wrong direction
03:09<coc0nut>one thing is installing several os on one disk. might be something else with separate disks
03:09<jm_>yeah but such things should be easier with uefi I guess
03:10<coc0nut>ill see when i got the m2 ordered :p :)
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04:08<Dresden2><tuxd3v> Dresden2, yeah gnuplot already has qt,fltk,gnuplot as options
04:08<Dresden2>Thanks for helping
04:08<Dresden2>Seriously
04:08<Dresden2>Thanks
04:09<Dresden2>Nvm
04:09<Dresden2>Misread
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04:09<Dresden2>Nvm I misread, they're backends
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06:38<pluto>Hi! I want to install deb netinst, so in the past I've got some problems. First unable to play DVD by parolle and vlc, second MyPaint goind conflict with Gimp.
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06:52<grove>pluto: Okay. Do you have any question? I've been able to play DVD's on Debian for more than 20 years, I've never heard of (and therefore never used) parolle, it's also not in Debian (anymore). I've never preferred vlc, but everytime I've tried it worked. I've also never tried mypaint, but you need to be more specific about the conflict if you want hekp
06:54<pluto>About conflict I think is about a library.
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06:56<tjcarter>To play a DVD (note not bluray) you need libdvdcss, which has an installer
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06:56<pluto>So about dvd player I think libdvdccs, so apt get list not has it
06:56<tjcarter>libdvd-pkg
06:56<tjcarter>(it's in contrib)
06:57<pluto>So I muust enable unofficial ropository?
06:57<pluto>*must
06:57<jm_>contrib is official
06:59<pluto>I'll try. The only reason to pass on Debian, is apt that resolve depend. Actually using Slack.
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07:02<pluto>thanks
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07:36<EmleyMoor>I know we're drifting off a bit here but has anyone here ever used a Purism Librem 5, or knows where I could make some enquiries?
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07:50<bremner>EmleyMoor: some people in #mobian have experience with mobian (almost debian) on a Librem 5
07:51<EmleyMoor>Interesting. I may have a look sometime - though availability may be a problem for a while
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08:07<g00se>I plug in a usb stick and the disk is recognised and attached. lsblk/blkid show nothing. Does that mean that the stick is bust or is it just its partition table is bust?
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08:09<mey>any1 here?
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08:10<ivan_>hello
08:10<mey>hello ivan
08:11<mey>i tought mirc is dead
08:11<ivan_>do you speak russian?
08:11<Tj>g00se: what does the kernel log show? "dmesg | tail -n 20"
08:12<mey>just english
08:12<ivan_>Я Клоун
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08:14<g00se>Tj: Just that it's detected and attached
08:15<g00se>Kingston DataTraveler 3.0 PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
08:15<g00se>Attached SCSI removable disk
08:15<ivan_>что?
08:17<Tj>g00se: is the usb_storage module loaded?
08:18<g00se>Yes: New USB device found, idVendor=0951, idProduct=1666, bcdDevice= 1.00
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08:20<Tj>g00se: show us the log " dmesg | tail -n 100 | nc termbin.com 9999 "
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08:21<g00se>https://termbin.com/dypd
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08:22<Tj>g00se: "sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk"
08:22<g00se>https://termbin.com/8frj
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08:25<Tj>g00se: is there a /dev/sdc (and a /sys/block/sdc/ ) ?
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08:26<g00se>https://termbin.com/6n62
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08:27<g00se>/sys/block/sdc/ DOES exist though
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08:37<g00se>Tj: don't leave me ;) Could this be a borked partition table?
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08:40<Tj>g00se: no, PT won't affect device missing
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08:40<Tj>g00se: that is acting like some kernel module isn't loaded, or the device is an empty removable device like a card-reader or CD/DVD/BD
08:40<wwallace>how to open 4 terminals with xterm and switch to anyone?
08:40<wwallace>Thanks.
08:41<g00se>Ah. No way of 'prodding' it?
08:41<Tj>g00se: is UAS module loaded? "lsmod | grep uas"
08:41<tarzeau>use screen?
08:42<wwallace>OK Thank you.
08:43<g00se>Yes, it's loaded
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08:44<Tj>g00se: OK, so it wasn't lack of that - it would work with just usb_storage anyhow
08:44<Tj>g00se: now I look I can see that info in your earlier log "usbcore: registered new interface driver uas"
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08:45<g00se>Just weird how these 'quality' sticks go pear-shaped ;)
08:46<Tj>g00se: show us " grep . /sys/block/sdc | nc termbin.com 9999 "
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08:48<g00se>grep: /sys/block/sdc: Is a directory
08:48<g00se>Do you 'mean' find /sys/...?
08:48<jm_>wwallace: most window managers allow you to switch with keyboard too, what exactly are you trying to do?
08:49<Tj>g00se: no but I mistyped!
08:49<Tj>g00se: show us " grep . /sys/block/sdc/* | nc termbin.com 9999 "
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08:50<wwallace>I use Terminator but they dont have that here.
08:50<g00se>https://termbin.com/45uq
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08:51<jm_>ahh you want tabs in a terminal? screen/tmux as already mentioned are good alternatives
08:51<Tj>g00se: ouch! "/sys/block/sdc/size:0"
08:52<g00se>Right. So stick is… ?
08:52<wwallace>Thats it tmux
08:52<wwallace>Thank you!!!
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08:54<Tj>g00se: it looks that way, unless you can prove it works fine in another PC, or alternative USB ports ?
08:55<Tj>g00se: doing a web search for that device " idVendor=0951, idProduct=1666 " shows up a LOT of results for failures
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08:56<g00se>Eugh. I thought it was 'quality'
08:56<g00se>I tried a different port. No change
08:56<Tj>g00se: I'm also reading that it may work in USB 2.0 ports
08:56<Tj>g00se: do you have any on that or another PC to test
08:57<Tj>g00se: here's another funny suggestion from a bug report. Insert it S L O W L Y into the USB 3 port and it may work
08:58<g00se>I'll give it a go first on another PC
08:58<Tj>g00se: sounds silly but actually makes sense since the USB 2 pins will make contact first and USB 3 pins (in back of USB socket) will contact last
08:58<Tj>g00se: so maybe letting the USB 2 side power up the DataTraveller (they carry the 5V and 0V) a while before the USB3 contacts get going helps
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09:03<g00se>Did a combo of another PC and slooooooow insertion. No joy :(
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09:08<g00se>Tj: Which usb sticks do you favour, if any?
09:08<Tj>g00se: I don't
09:08<g00se>Ha ;)
09:09*g00se just uses them for Live debian
09:17<coc0nut>i need to load iwlwifi driver during install. so i copy that over to an empty usb while installing right? where do i find the iwlwifi driver to download? :p
09:18<g00se>Are there any good curses wifi configuration utils?
09:18<Fraggle2>coc0nut: https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware
09:19<Fraggle2>https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi
09:20<coc0nut>do i just copy over a deb file to a usb?
09:21<Fraggle2>https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware#Firmware_during_the_installation
09:22<Fraggle2>either use a non-free installer image or provide the firmware during installation, like described on that page. Personally I use option 1
09:22*g00se sees nmtui
09:25<coc0nut>non-free installer image sounds best...
09:25<coc0nut>in like a debian iso with non-free packages ?
09:25<Fraggle2>exactly.
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09:26<coc0nut>where do i find it Fraggle2 ? :P
09:27<coc0nut>is this one legit? https://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.1.0+nonfree/amd64/
09:27<Fraggle2>coc0nut: It is linked on the page I gave you, can't you read? ;). And yes, you have found it.
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09:31<Fraggle2>Only difference to the "official" one is the inclusion of firmware and the activation of non-free and contrib repositories AFAIK.
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09:32<kishore>hi
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09:32<coc0nut>thx Fraggle2 !
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09:33<kishore>where can i check mx linux commands i am new to linux
09:33<Fraggle2>kishore: in an mx linux channel?
09:34<kishore>where is it
09:34<ansgar>!mxlinux
09:34<dpkg>MX Linux is a popular distribution <based on debian>. It is not supported in #debian. Support is available on their forum: https://forum.mxlinux.org/. It is related to <antix>. If you are new to linux, or want a distro with IRC support, try Debian instead: https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian
09:35<kishore>i didnt seen commands in that link
09:36<Fraggle2>This channel is for supporting Debian, not MX Linux. Try https://mxlinux.org/support/
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09:52<g00se>Tj: Thanks a lot for your support
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12:05<mendel_munkis>Sometimes I think about what the great editor wars of wizards would be (metal vs soft-tipped quill pens, parchment vs vellum, etching runes into flint vs quartz vs sandstone) and laugh about it to myself. I may be beyond help.
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13:10<repair>mis-fire, sorry
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13:36<coc0nut>hm I installed some unofficial firmware live iso debian 11
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13:36<coc0nut>and it doesnt show possible packages when i tab in terminal
13:36<coc0nut>is there anyway to get it? :p
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13:36<petn-randall>coc0nut: tab completion for what exactly?
13:37<coc0nut>tabbing apt install python in example to see possibilities
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13:40<petn-randall>coc0nut: You probably want to install "bash-completion".
13:41<dbristow>I hope this isn't a very noob question, but here goes:
13:41<dbristow>My /dev/sr0 looks like this: brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Nov 5 13:10 /dev/sr0
13:41<dbristow>Any idea what the '+' is and how to list it?
13:42<dbristow>I know it's some sort of extended attribute
13:42<petn-randall>dbristow: `getfacl -t -e /dev/sr0` will show it for you.
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13:43<dbristow>Ahh, now I see, both root and dbristow can write to it
13:43<dbristow>That's the only magic
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13:43<repair>coc0nut: or if you just installed its possible you haven't updated from apt repo?
13:46<coc0nut>i updated.. it seems abit glitchy. at boot and logging in icons wont load on the taskbar
13:46<coc0nut>using dash to dock
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13:46<coc0nut>ill reboot
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13:47<coc0nut>now i have tab completion, thx petn-randall ! :)
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14:22<@jelly>dpkg: ping
14:22<dpkg>Yes, jelly, you are online.
14:22<@jelly>dselect: ping
14:22<dselect>Yes, jelly you are either online or you are not... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20000326
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14:22<@jelly>well okay, the backup one works
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14:26<petn-randall>jelly: dpkg works for me, too. You don't see the replies?
14:26<petn-randall>19:22 < dpkg > Yes, jelly, you are online.
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14:27<sney>on the other network too.
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14:30<g00se>Am trying to build a live debian and discover that wireless fails totally. I have all the firmwares and network-manager net-tools wireless-tools. Am I missing something essential? The system sees NO wireless at all on ANY machine
14:30<memepaleontologist2002>Is it a proprietary wifi driver?
14:31<memepaleontologist2002>If so, you could add the non-free repos.
14:31<petn-randall>g00se: Does it work with the stock live images with firmware?
14:31<g00se>petn-randall: Good question! Yes
14:32<g00se>The unofficial bullseye is fine
14:33<g00se>memepaleontologist2002: No. USB nics don't work either
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14:33<petn-randall>g00se: I guess you broke something generating your images then.
14:33<g00se>Well everything else seems OK. Ethernet is fine
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14:34<memepaleontologist2002>You could try the unofficial isos with non-free firmware.
14:34<g00se>memepaleontologist2002: ^^
14:34<memepaleontologist2002>Forgot
14:36<memepaleontologist2002>I would suggest building another iso, and see if it works.
14:36<g00se>--no-install-recommends was used though…
14:37<memepaleontologist2002>I think you should try it with installl reccomendations. More bloated iso, but it could work.
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14:38<g00se>Will do that, yes
14:38<memepaleontologist2002>Wouldn't reccomend removing the bloat, because you may accidentally break it again.
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14:39<sney>!why recommends
14:39<dpkg>From Debian 5.0 "Lenny" onwards, apt-get and aptitude both install "Recommended" packages by default. From <policy> section 7.2, Recommends, "declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations." You're not that unusual, trust us. By not installing "recommended" packages you will be missing functionality.
14:40<sney>be specific with it but don't disable it across the board, weird things happen.
14:40<g00se>Queer thing is that I had wireless working at one point and am 90-odd percent certain that I didn't change the packages in question
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14:41<memepaleontologist2002>You could try --install-suggests, more bloated, but could work. "Bloat that makes the system work" could apply here.
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14:43<g00se>What about using 'default' recommends, i.e. NOT using that switch/
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14:44<memepaleontologist2002>May work, but using this switch will give a higher chance of it working.
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14:45<memepaleontologist2002>Why not use the unofficial iso?
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14:48<g00se>Don't need a gui and it's a bore having to install missing stuff like sshd for instance
14:49<jelly>petn-randall: [dpkg lines] no I don't! It's possible this particular client is doing something weird.
14:49*jelly is in the office for the first time in months
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15:23<menace>hey, just by chance, did anyone build the libvirt packages without nfs as a dependency?
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16:47<dKaiser>I'm attempting to boot BeagleBone Black using the concatenated image from hd-media site. The kernel boot is hanging. How do I proceed?
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16:49<sney>dKaiser: early boot issues are usually more of a hardware vendor thing, what instructions did you follow and do you have any other details?
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16:52<dKaiser>sney: I downloaded firmware.BeagleBoneBlack.img.gz and partition.img.gz and zcat'd them into complete_image.img. I then dd'd the image to an SD Card, inserted the card into my BBB and booted from it.
16:52<dKaiser>sney: The boot of the kernel hangs up.
16:53<dKaiser>I see the following debug output lines:
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16:54<dKaiser>[ 7.765533] sdhci-omap 48060000.mmc: supply vqmmc not found, using dummy regulator
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16:54<sney>ok, that's all pretty beagle-specific stuff, with their bootloader and kernel, so you should be asking their support
16:54<sney>looks like there is a #beagle channel on libera.chat
16:54<dKaiser>[ 7.785049] ------------[ cut here ]------------
16:55<dKaiser>[ 7.789896] kernel BUG at drivers/usb/musb/musb_core.c:2158!
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16:56<dKaiser>[ 7.795788] Internal error: Oops - BUG: 0 [#1] SMP ARM
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16:59<sney>dKaiser: those SBCs all have different boot errata and #debian can't really keep track of all of them.
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17:05<dKaiser>sney: I will ask questions on the #beagle channel. Any other suggestions?
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17:11<sney>dKaiser: make sure the image was fully on the sd card before removing it, by running 'sync'; make sure the sd card is good, by trying another one
17:11<sney>otherwise the beagle channel (note that it's on another network) is your best bet
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17:23<dKaiser>sney: thanks again. moving to the #beagle channel
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19:02<ydbi>any fortune tellers in here having predictions for firefox 91esr in stable?
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19:06<craigevil>it is in sid, should wander over to stable in a few days
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19:06<ydbi>craigevil: that
19:07<alex11>now with extra telemetry! :P
19:07<ydbi>is not a guarantee though, because firefox can't be built in stable as far as I can see from the dependencies
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19:09<ydbi>that's why I wonder if it will be at all possible
19:09<ydbi>and maybe we'll just get a new firefox in debian12 then?
19:10<craigevil>94 is in sid
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19:11<ydbi>,checkbackport firefox-esr
19:11<judd>Backporting package firefox-esr in sid→bullseye/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libnspr4-dev (>= 2:4.32~), libnss3-dev (>= 2:3.68~), rustc (>= 1.51), cbindgen (>= 0.19.0).
19:12<ydbi>bullseye has too old versions of those, probably rustc being the biggest problem
19:14<craigevil>you could always use "cough" snap
19:15<ydbi>there's a snap of esr?
19:15<ydbi>I'd think mozilla would be against that
19:15<craigevil>no , snap has Release, Beta, nightly
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19:16<alex11>wasn't it with quantum, they backported rust?
19:16<ydbi>snap would be the worst option, I already use esr to avoid the random UI changes each month, and snap would prevent me from disabling automatic updates
19:16<alex11>maybe the same thing here
19:17<ydbi>alex11: I don't know how this works. Would it mean that a newer rustc would have to enter -stable, or would it be sufficient for it to be in -stable-backports?
19:17<alex11>i don't know, i guess the latter
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19:17<ydbi>I don't know either. Maybe that would mean that a new firefox could only enter stable-backports and not stable?
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19:18<ydbi>I probably remember it wrong, isn't there a policy that says everything in stable has to be built using source packages in stable?
19:19<somiaj>There is, it will probably be a little bit, and it won't be added to stable until there are grave enough security issues to warrent it, though I'm sure there is some work being done to ensure they can build it in stable
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19:19<alex11>firefox better not go the way chromium is in debian
19:20<ydbi>alex11: what's up with chromium in debian?
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19:21<somiaj>I mostly see it as a disagreement on what is a grave enough security issue to push a new version to stable
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19:21<ydbi>probably when mozilla calls it critical and not just high?
19:21<somiaj>It hasn't had an update in quite a while, and lots of open CVEs, but many of them either don't affect Debian or are considered not grave enough to push a new version to stable by the security team
19:22<ydbi>chromium is not really on my radar much, because it doesn't have a LTS or ESR or whatever version
19:23<ydbi>I'm very unenthusiastic about my tools updating themselves every month
19:23<somiaj>Yea, and there is only a single maintainer, it could use some love and some clear policy on what is considered a grave enough CVE to update to the newest version in stable.
19:23<ydbi>a single maintainer for a browser package? yikes
19:23<ydbi>browsers are probably the most complex packages in debian right now
19:24<ydbi>more lines of code than anything else probably too
19:24<somiaj>That is my understanding, but without any statement from the security team or maintainer, hard to say what they consider grave enough to update the version in stable (it use to be updated a bit more regulrally then it has been in bullseye)
19:24<somiaj>Maybe, the kernel has lots of lines of code.
19:24<somiaj>though is much easier to build
19:24<ydbi>kernel is trivial to build and has no dependencies
19:25<ydbi>well, no difficult ones
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19:25<somiaj>Yea, not in the same state in terms of building, but it could have more lines of code
19:26<somiaj>The Linux kernel has around 27.8 million lines of code in its Git repository -- that is jan 2020
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19:26<ydbi>and firefox is 21M in 2020
19:27<ydbi>that's before quantum I think, so a couple million more by now probably
19:27<ydbi>it's mostly generated code anyway
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19:30<ydbi>to put it in perspective, if you were forced to read 1000 lines of code every day, you'd kill yourself before reaching the halfway point, probably
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