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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-11-14

---Logopened Sun Nov 14 00:00:02 2021
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02:04<pan>hi
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03:02<troethe>hi :)
03:05*knghtbrd configures pam for extra security by way of hello
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03:07<knghtbrd>troethe: are you using Debian on your Pi?
03:08<knghtbrd>troethe: if so, curious how it's working for you. If not, if you don't know what became of the #raspberrypi channel from the network formerly known as moderately useful, it's over at libera.chat now
03:09<knghtbrd>Lost a lot of users in the process.
03:11<knghtbrd>You might want to know about #raspberrypi even if you do use Debian on the Pi since people with more direct knowledge of the hardware can be found there. But Debian and Raspbian aren't quite the same OS.
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03:42<troethe>knghtbrd: Yea I am. When it works, it works without problem. However it seems to crash (maybe just the wifi) every once in a while, with an error from the broadcom driver in the logs shortly before. I can't really debug this however, as I don't even have a screen or keyboard for it. I'm using it completely headless.
03:43<knghtbrd>cool
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05:49<yeti>hi! is loosing sound after some minutes in gnome on (buster and (after upgrade)) bullseye a known problem? hardware: Thinkpad T510. it even happened faster with bullseye's default kernel, sound takes longer to drop with 5.14.bpo. either I'm alone with this or I'm not finding the right search keywords... :-/
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05:51<yeti>eeeh... sorry... "losing"... I'll never get that wrong oo-wire out of my head...
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05:59<at0m>yeti: if that's after a while of nothing addressing the soundcard, i'd suspect some powersaving, and try turning all powersaving off.
06:00<yeti>it is while playing
06:00<at0m>yeti: ye English spelling has its quircks =)
06:00<at0m>quirks? idk
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06:01<yeti>with ff, chromium, rhythmbox, totem
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06:01<at0m>yeti: ok no power saving issue then, if it's while playing
06:02<yeti>and I think my english is decodable... despite that oo-glitch
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06:06<yeti>maybe someone other has a URL about that... I'll not be gone in a few minutes...
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06:07<aloo_shu>do alsa and pulse log? if so, those would be 2 keywords to try locating in journalctl
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07:09<mecl>Hi! Recently moved to Bullseye and I can not dock my thinkpad x230 anymore (non responsive black screen). There is a known workaround?
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09:37<micha>Hi, I want GNOME to start a program with a wrapper (pw-jack). Is it possible to set some kind of an alias somewhere?
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09:47<spawacz>I'm running backblock for an hour or so, I'd like to check progress, how can I do that?
09:47<spawacz>i did not run with -s, my bad
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10:08<troethe>micha: Can't really test right now, but what happens if you take the original .desktop file from /usr/share/applications, put a copy of it into ~/.local/share/applications and edit that copy to call your wrapper?
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10:25<micha>troethe: yup, that works!
10:25<micha>Thank you!
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10:27<troethe>yw :)
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11:07<DrBunsen>Hey all, stupid question maybe, but is there an alternative to NFS where I can set up users with passwords et cetera? I want to share some discs in my network but doing it with unprotected NFS shares feels wrong.
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11:13<tulpa>DrBunsen, samba
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11:22<DrBunsen>@Tulpa, Hmm, didn't think of samba. Since I thought it was frowned upon a bit ;) I will check it out, thanks.
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11:39<Guest5860>hello
11:39<Guest5860>anyone here?
11:39<Guest5860>guess not
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11:43<DrBunsen>Just ask the question
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16:22<spawacz>I have a 500G disk, had a 250G win partition, 100G blank space and 100G other partition
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16:22<spawacz>i went into fdisk, created 2 partitions in the blank space
16:22<spawacz>saved the changes
16:22<spawacz>and ALL PARTITIONS ARE GONE
16:22<spawacz>i have entire log of the commands and output
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16:24<spawacz>https://paste.debian.net/1219518/
16:25<spawacz>What's wrong? Is my data from this disk completely gone?
16:25<mason>spawacz: Do you have back-ups?
16:26<spawacz>i will have from now on
16:26<spawacz>but i suppose it is just some tiny error that can be corrected?
16:26<spawacz>look what i did.. just basic stuff
16:27<spawacz>Brb, I'll try rebooting into that disk...
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16:28<mason>spawacz: It can't hurt to 'partprobe' after making changes.
16:28<mason>Or shouldn't anyway.
16:28<blast007>there are tools that can possibly restore the partition table if that's indeed messed up
16:28<blast007>depends how much has been written to the disk
16:28<blast007>I had success years ago when I had just deleted the partitions
16:29<blast007>I had used testdisk
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16:30<hruodr>hi
16:31<hruodr>so silent?
16:31<hruodr>HI
16:31<blast007>hruodr: well, it's not a social channel, it's a support channel
16:32<hruodr>i just only wanted to know if irc works, last time i used it it was in the 90s
16:32<blast007>yup, it works
16:32<hruodr>excelent, then bye, til next time. :)
16:32<spawacz>im using testdisk atm blast007
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16:37<Sqrt{not}>spawacz, it looks like you made a partition in the empty space between the 2 old partitions. should be no problem, unless you have done more violence since the paste
16:38<Sqrt{not}>correxion, 2 new partitions in the empty space. still doesn't look like damage
16:39<Sqrt{not}>what does fdisk show now for that disk?
16:39<spawacz>no i did not
16:39<spawacz>that's all i did
16:39<spawacz>there are no cuts in the paste
16:39<Sqrt{not}>no you did not what?
16:39<spawacz>i ran testdisk and it can find 3 old partitions
16:40<spawacz>but when i tell testdisk to save, nothing happens
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16:40<spawacz>he claims i need a reboot after save but the disk doesnt have partitions still
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16:40<spawacz>fdisk shows nothing too
16:41<spawacz>but testdisk shows good data
16:41<spawacz>but it does not repair the table
16:43<Sqrt{not}>what did you mean when you answered [14:39:29] <spawacz> no i did not
16:43<spawacz>i did not input any other commands between what is pasted
16:43<spawacz>this is just copy and paste from my terminal where i've been doing it, nothing is cut
16:44<Sqrt{not}>so you started out with 2 partitions, and all the empty space between the end of sdc1 and the beginning of sdc2
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16:45<Sqrt{not}>then you added 2 partitions, sdc3, and later sdc4, into that empty space, without overlapping the existing old partitions.
16:45<spawacz>yes
16:45<spawacz>and partitions are gone
16:45<spawacz>for whatever reason
16:46<mason>spawacz: You've rebooted, and you still don't see them? You're not in the same session, are you? If it got confused, sometimes it's good to insist that the kernel consider what's there with partprobe.
16:47<spawacz>i rebooted
16:47<spawacz>mutliple times
16:49<Sqrt{not}>spawacz, what do you see exactly from fdisk now? can you paste?
16:49<spawacz>https://paste.debian.net/1219521/
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16:50<spawacz>And this is testdisk
16:50<spawacz>https://paste.debian.net/1219522/
16:51<Sqrt{not}>why was it sdc before, and now it is sda? is it just moved to some other machine, or what?
16:51<spawacz>no
16:51<spawacz>it is like that on my pc
16:51<spawacz>i dont know why
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16:52<spawacz>after reboot the disks change labels
16:52<Sqrt{not}>OK, I suggest you use fdisk, and r
16:52<Sqrt{not}>create new partitions on the disk, with the same start/end sectors as before. but make them in order, not like this first.
16:52<spawacz>r: unknown command
16:53<spawacz>ah
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16:55<Sqrt{not}>spawacz, note that the original 2 partitions were type 7, and your new ones were type 83
16:56<spawacz>Partition #1 contains a ntfs signature.
16:56<spawacz>This is the warning i get
16:57<spawacz>from fdisk when i create first partition
16:57<spawacz>just like he knows the partitions are there?
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16:58<Sqrt{not}>yes, that ntfs was the type 7, see your old fdisk output
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16:58<Sqrt{not}>both of the old partitions were type 7
16:58<spawacz>https://paste.debian.net/1219524/
16:58<spawacz>Write?
16:59<spawacz>i wrote, fdisk exited and nothing changed
16:59<spawacz>lsblk still showing no partitions
17:00<spawacz>what the hell
17:00<spawacz>and using fdisk again shows no partitions too
17:01<Sqrt{not}>OK, so now you have recreated the old disk with only the 2 NTFS partitions, is that right?
17:01<spawacz>yes
17:02<spawacz>i pressed w, fdisk exited
17:02<spawacz>and nothing has changed
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17:02<spawacz>except the disk label
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17:02<spawacz>the hex id thing
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17:05<spawacz>maybe i need to answer "yes" when fdisk asks if i want to wipe the ntfs signature?
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17:06<Sqrt{not}>spawacz, i think you should specify those partitions as type 7 in the first place
17:06<spawacz>i did
17:06<spawacz>pressed "t" and then "7"
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17:08<spawacz>whatever i do is just gone...
17:11<dvs>did you press 'w' to write your changes to disk?
17:11<Sqrt{not}>maybe you need to do the 'o' fdisk command first, to create a new partition table.
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17:12<Sqrt{not}>I see line 7 of your fdisking paste says: Device does not contain a recognized partition table.
17:13<spawacz>yes i did
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17:14<spawacz>okay I'll try with o..
17:14<Sqrt{not}>worth a try, and then recreate the partitions. it looks like you were doing that part correctly
17:15<spawacz>huh
17:15<spawacz>i tried to dd /dev/zero into /dev/sda
17:15<spawacz>512 ybtes
17:15<spawacz>and it didnt write anything
17:16<spawacz>but dd said it succeed
17:16<Sqrt{not}>ewwww. what exact dd command?
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17:18<spawacz>O_O
17:18<spawacz>i replugged the cable
17:18<spawacz>and the output of dd is different ( i piped dd from disk to xxd to hex view it)
17:19<spawacz>maybe it was loose cable issue or something
17:20<spawacz>now testdisk does not find anything
17:20<spawacz>OMG dmesg is spamming some errors
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17:23<spawacz>okay
17:24<spawacz>it does not work
17:24<spawacz>god damn
17:25<mason>spawacz: What errors from dmesg? About the cable pull?
17:25<mason>spawacz: Might be worth looking at the disk's SMART status to verify that it's okay.
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17:26<Sqrt{not}>OK, sorry --- I was trying to help with fdisk suggestions, but I don't know what to suggest with your dd's and testdisk's. (and it looks like maybe hardware problems).....SWMBO tells me it is lunch time. good luck
17:27<mason>Sqrt{not}: Rumpole fan?
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17:28<mason>Or rather since there's almost no question... Me too.
17:30<spawacz>yeah the disk is old
17:30<spawacz>but it worked until i tried to squeeze these 2 partitions
17:31<mason>spawacz: Old is okay, but smartctl and friends will tell you if it's actively failing or not.
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17:31<spawacz>okay, sek
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17:32<spawacz>-a output is pretty verbose
17:33<mason>spawacz: And different vendors can mean different things with the output, but with luck it'll have some indication of health.
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17:37<spawacz>https://paste.debian.net/1219530/
17:39<mason>So, the raw read error rate might be worrisome.
17:40<mason>but no reallocated sectors, so I'm not sure what to make of it
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17:40<mason>Four years spinning isn't excessively old.
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17:41<mason>closer to five, but still
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17:42<mason>Be nice if someone with more experience with smart status could look as well. The raw read error count's a bit of a worry, and there being uncorrectable errors and other error stats makes me think it's at least worth further study.
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17:43<mason>spawacz: Compare with a random disk from a server I'm working on here: https://bpa.st/2A4Q
17:43<MSM757>Anyone know the situation regarding Firefox ESR? Is Debian going to backport version 91 to the Stable branch? Or are we stuck with an unsupported Browser? Just curious.
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17:46<spawacz>mason: where do you work? :)
17:46<spawacz>some hosting company?
17:46<mason>spawacz: That's from my home lab. I work for Red Hat.
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17:50<spawacz>whatever i `dd` to this disk does not seem to be written
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17:50<spawacz>but i can `dd` out of it without problem
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17:51<mason>spawacz: It's not an SSD that's failed read-only, is it?
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17:51<mason>Not sure how that'd look. I mostly still have spinning rust.
17:52<spawacz>it's HDD
17:52<spawacz>very old one
17:53<spawacz>how does dying disk sound like?
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17:54<spawacz>now it wrote partition!!!
17:54<spawacz>whaat
17:54<mason>spawacz: FWIW, while the disk might be funny, it might not hurt to verify the disk controller as well.
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17:55<mason>As in, plug the disk into another system and see if it's equally funny.
17:55<spawacz>i can mount
17:55<spawacz>the second partition
17:55<spawacz>first not
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17:55<spawacz>maybe i change cable and slot...
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17:56<spawacz>my mobo is like 7 years old
17:57<spawacz>mount: /mnt: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error.
17:57<spawacz>this is for the first partition
17:57<spawacz>the boot
17:58<spawacz>i think it's cause i wiped the ntfs signature the other time
17:59<spawacz>ntfsfix worked
17:59<spawacz>holyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
17:59<spawacz>it mounted
17:59<mason>Good. Now, don't forget about back-ups! :)
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18:00<blast007>back up stuff now while it's working, just in case it breaks again :)
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18:45<FamiliarFez_>im pretty new to debian and this is probably a really stupid question but does anyone know on how to get the internet working in kde since my dumbass cant figure it out
18:47<blast007>are you using WiFi? a lot of WiFi modules need proprietary (non-free) firmware installed to function
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18:57<twb>When I install fonts-noto-* packages, I get like 50 screens worth of script-specific "Noto Devanagari" font names in LibreOffice's font dialogue. This is terrible UX. I think the user should only need to see/pick "Noto" and it should use as many "Noto X" writing systems as happen to be installed.
18:57<twb>Is there a way to achieve this? e.g. through fontconfig rules?
18:58<twb>I notice that fonts-dejavu* provides a heap of fontconfig rules, but noto provides 0
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18:59<twb>Maybe I should ask ##fonts or #fontconfig...
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19:06<FamiliarFez_>How would i load the wifi firmware?
19:06<twb>FamiliarFez_: for what hardware?
19:06<twb>FamiliarFez_: probably you want something like "apt install firmware-iwlwifi" or "firmware-atheros"
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19:15<blast007>those commands would need working internet access
19:16<blast007>if you lack that, you can download the appropriate .deb and transfer it to your computer on a flash drive
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19:17<blast007>check the output of 'sudo dmesg | grep -i firmware' to see if anything jumps out about missing firmware files, and check 'lspci -nn' and 'lsusb' to see if you can figure out what WiFi chip you have
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19:26<mooff>twb: yeah, agreed it's bad UX. i don't enjoy choosing fonts on Linux. good luck in the fonty channels
19:27<somiaj>yea I once had a ton of .ttf fonts in ~/.fonts and I could never find a font in a gui chooser. I eventally had to mv ~/.fonts to ~/.fonts-lots so I had a managable list
19:28<somiaj>In general way to many fonts exist
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19:43<FamiliarFez>ok so i just did those 2 commands about missing firmware files and one of them were saying that iwlwifi-9000-pu-bo-jf-b0-36.ucode (sorry) was missing and i have an Intel Wireless-AC 9560 Wifi card except idk where to get or put the firmware
19:46<dvs>!firmware-iwlwifi
19:47<dvs>!iwlwifi
19:47<dpkg>The iwlwifi Linux kernel driver supports several Intel 802.11n (WiFi Link, Wireless-N, Advanced-N, Ultimate-N) and 802.11ac adapters. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-iwlwifi package to provide. Supported devices and troubleshooting hints are listed at https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi . See also <iwlegacy>, <iwl7000>.
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19:48<Sqrt{not}>iwlwifi-9000-pu-bo-jf-b0-36.ucode is not in debian at the moment
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19:54<Sqrt{not}>FamiliarFez, are you sure you copied the firmware file name exactly? is it iwlwifi-9000-pu-bo-jf-b0-38.ucode
19:55<FamiliarFez>No i just realized that the o in the first bo was supposed to be a 0 like the other b0, thats my bad
19:56<Sqrt{not}>and is the last number 36 or is it 38 ?
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19:56<blast007>FamiliarFez: https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/all/firmware-iwlwifi/download
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19:58<blast007>assuming you're running Debian 11, anyway
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20:00<Sqrt{not}>FamiliarFez, you can install that file with apt tools, if you have non-free sources enabled.
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20:03<Sqrt{not}>this file is in debian buster (non-free) iwlwifi-9000-pu-b0-jf-b0-38.ucode
20:03<tzf>hi guys, when an application crash... how can i have a look on what happened?
20:05<somiaj>tzf: what application is crashing?
20:06<somiaj>tzf: depending on the application, you can check ~/.xsession-errors if it is run from xorg, you can run it from a terminal so stderr is outputted to the terminal, that may tell you info. You can also get a coredump
20:06<tzf>somiaj, oops... that close source zoom.us (used due to professional reason).
20:07<somiaj>zoom seems to run fine here, are you running it in a browser or using their linux client?
20:07<tzf>linux client
20:07<somiaj>tzf: I assume you are running debian 11?
20:08<tzf>yes
20:08<tzf>stable
20:08<tzf>can I describe
20:08<somiaj>try to run 'zoom' from a terminal, you should be able to see any output, maybe this can give you some clues
20:09<tzf>when recording meeting is done, it load the video, at that point all crash, loading+zoom
20:09<somiaj>ahh I haven't tried its recodring feature, are you recording locally or to their cloud?
20:09<tzf>yes ok somiaj, i will do
20:11<tzf>somiaj, i guess them cloud but not sure... not from OBS anyway... i record and it load it into my /home file
20:11<somiaj>well haven't tried it in linux, I jsut use windows for zoom most the time, the linux client I only use when I have a quick meeting that I don't want to reboot for
20:11<tzf>i see
20:11<somiaj>tzf: when you record a session in zoom you can choose to record it directly to the cloud, if you are try to save it in $HOME you are saving the recording locally
20:11<somiaj>try to choose to save the recording to the cloud (you can then download it)
20:12<tzf>i think i have to upgrade zoom and pay for that?
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20:12<tzf>pretty sure actually
20:12<somiaj>ahh maybe, my $DAYJOB pays for all of that, so didn't realize it wasn't a feature all had
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20:12<tzf>it's actually madame who is conserned
20:13<tzf>good !
20:13<tzf>because other collegues pays and load on the cloud
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20:14<tzf>anyway i will run in terminal and see
20:15<tzf>i actually think that it's a problem that can be fixed by installing <<Xcompmgr>> because it's a noDE environment
20:16<somiaj>I use zoom in fvwm, but as I said I haven't tried recording in linux yet
20:16<tzf>just Xorg and openbox from a netinstall
20:16<tzf>well
20:17<tzf>i will update you
20:17<tzf>thank you somiaj
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23:01<tzf>plop ! how to read /var/log/syslog ?
23:02<somiaj>what do you mean?
23:02<somiaj>I personally use less
23:03<tzf>hey somiaj, I was shy to disturb you case of you might be at night? anyway, i have run zoom in terminal and terminal crash as well
23:03<somiaj>It takes the terminal out with it? Hmm, that is strange
23:03<tzf>so maybe i should look at /var/log/syslog ?
23:03<somiaj>I doubt you'll find info there, but you can
23:03<somiaj>you can try ~/.xsession-errors too
23:03<tzf>yes it take Sakura terminal as well
23:04<somiaj>try another terminal, I use xterm
23:04<tzf>ok
23:04<tzf>i do it now
23:04<solitario>tzf: % tail -F -n1000 /var/log/syslog
23:06<tzf>oops, it was Xterm and not Sakura, it's a fresh debian11 install... I got confused because on debian10 it was sakura
23:06<tzf>but here only xterm... i use only xterm now
23:07<twb>tzf: you might want to use journalctl instead
23:07<twb>tzf: it indexes some fields for faster filtering
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23:14<tzf>i search
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23:36<tzf>i can't see any error : https://paste.debian.net/1219556/ from root@debian:~# tail -F -n1000 /var/log/syslog
23:37<tzf>and nothing shows in journalctl
23:37<tzf>or i do it wrongly
23:42<somiaj>most likely this won't appear in either
23:42<tzf>why
23:42<tzf>close source?
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23:43<tzf>oh i forgot... i don't have any picom, compton.........
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23:43<tzf>i suspect it to cause crash because it is missing
23:44<somiaj>no
23:45<tzf>now Xterm did not crashed but nothing shows
23:45<somiaj>journalctl will show system services, and syslog shows system services. Zoom is just being run as a user program
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23:45<tzf>i simply start zoom in xterm without any option?
23:45<somiaj>if it outputs any errors it will most likely be to stderr which would be either in the terminal (if it didn't crash with it) or in ~/.xesssion-errors
23:45<somiaj>I belive you should be able to dot hat, that will make it so xterm is the stdout and stderr
23:46<somiaj>you could also do something like 'zoom >$HOME/zoom.log 2>&1' and that should create a zoom.log file, that even if xterm crashes you'll see the output of zoom (if any) to stdout and stderr
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23:48<twb>have you considered using meet.jit.si which does not require non-free software
23:48<tzf>twb, sure, but job request zoom, they all do not touch at GNU...
23:49<somiaj>My guess is like many, zoom is chosen by job/community/etc
23:49<tzf>yes
23:49<twb>Still worth asking
23:49<tzf>yes please
23:50<twb>jitsi just runs in a web browser
23:50<somiaj>does zoom only crash if you try to record a session
23:50<tzf>yes somiaj, only during the loading of the record
23:51<tzf>when i start a second meeting while first one is converting
23:51<tzf>it crash 1/3
23:51<tzf>times
23:51<tzf>2 sessions ok third crash like that
23:52<tzf>sometimes it do not crash, sometimes it crash at every sessions
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23:53<somiaj>I see on my machine zoom has ~/.zoom/zoom_stdout_stderr.log (seems it logs itself), could check that
23:53<somiaj>I see on my machine zoom has ~/.zoom/logs/zoom_stdout_stderr.log (seems it logs itself), could check that
23:53<tzf>hey maybe i have found something
23:54<tzf>i past it
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23:54<tzf>(pcmanfm:3115): GLib-CRITICAL **: 05:34:15.561: Source ID 64749 was not found when attempting to remove it
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23:54<somiaj>that looks like pcmanfm not zoom
23:55<tzf>yes
23:55<somiaj>anyways, zoom recording worked just fine here, though I just disocvered my zoom is a bit dated
23:55<tzf>but... pcmanfm can crash zoom then ?
23:55<somiaj>are you using 8.0?
23:55<somiaj>I don't see why pcmanfm would crash zoom
23:56<tzf>8.0 ?
23:56<tzf>who is this ?
23:56<somiaj>what version of zoom are you running?
23:56<somiaj>I'm just going off the download page, they say 8.0+, but I guess they really mean 5.8.3.145 (current version)
23:57<tzf>my zoom is Version: 5.8.3 (145)
23:57<tzf>ah ok
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23:58<somiaj>hmm, updated to the newest version, recorded a test just fine and didn't crash (though I notice the new version opens a browser to the location of the file it saved)
23:58<tzf>i see also this : (pcmanfm:3115): Gdk-WARNING **: 05:54:28.679: gdk_window_set_icon_list: icons too large
23:58<somiaj>where are you seeing this?
23:59<tzf>I have to check this : ~/.zoom/logs/zoom_stdout_stderr.log
23:59<somiaj>Anyways, I can't get zoom to crash here with recording, but at this point you should direct your support to zoom, debian really can't do much in the long run
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23:59<somiaj>You are seeing pcmanfm warnings appear in that logfile?
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