| --- | Log | opened Mon Nov 15 00:00:04 2021 |
| 00:00 | <tzf> | at : .xsession-errors |
| 00:00 | <somiaj> | oh in .xsession-errors you are going to see errors from everything, most of them won't apply to zoom |
| 00:00 | <somiaj> | anyways, seems zoom redirects its stderr and stdout to a logfile, that is probably the best place to look |
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| 00:02 | <tzf> | yes i am now looking there now |
| 00:02 | <tzf> | i checked .xsession-errors because you suggested it as well |
| 00:02 | <somiaj> | yea, that was before I realized that zoom redircts its stdout/stderr to its own log file |
| 00:03 | <somiaj> | .xsession-errors is just the standard output of stderr for applications ran from a wm |
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| 00:05 | <tzf> | ok. somiaj, in /home/user/.zoom/logs i can find one file : << zoom_stdout_stderr.log >> and many << crash_5.8.3.145_debian_2021-1110-101511.dmp >> |
| 00:05 | <tzf> | but i can't read them |
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| 00:06 | <somiaj> | those might be core dumps, you may have to contact zoom support and work with them, they might know how to read those files |
| 00:06 | <tzf> | okay |
| 00:06 | <somiaj> | in general Debian can't really support zoom, but now you know, check those logs, contact their support. I can't get it to crash here |
| 00:07 | <tzf> | yes i perfectly understand that |
| 00:07 | <tzf> | close sources programs are just good at we close the door at them... |
| 00:08 | <somiaj> | It appears zoom is providing info about the crash, but it appears it is a core dump of some type, which requires build headers to read |
| 00:08 | <tzf> | thank you all for your help ! i see more clearly now ! |
| 00:08 | <tzf> | yes' |
| 00:09 | <somiaj> | so you just create a meeting, record the meeting to the computer, say record 30seconds, then 'end meeting for all' and it crashes? |
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| 00:10 | <tzf> | end the meeting, and one the spot start a second meeting before first meeting finish it converting |
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| 00:10 | <tzf> | on* the spot |
| 00:11 | <somiaj> | so why not just wait until the recording is done before staring another meeting? |
| 00:12 | <tzf> | because one hour meeting take 10minutes converting... one class start from 8 to 9(converting) start 9 to 10(crash) |
| 00:12 | <somiaj> | classes you are in or classes you are hosting? |
| 00:13 | <tzf> | classe madame is hosting, she is the teacher |
| 00:13 | <twb> | sounds to me like "conversion" = ffmpeg |
| 00:13 | <somiaj> | Anyways, I can't get it to crash here doing what yous aid, starting another meeting really quickly |
| 00:13 | <twb> | it is normal for ffmpeg to be slow. If it is too slow, tune the output |
| 00:13 | <twb> | e.g. smalelr resolution |
| 00:13 | <tzf> | zoom do it own converting, shall i send you a scrot about it? |
| 00:13 | <twb> | tzf: so you have to patch how zoom calls ffmpeg |
| 00:14 | <twb> | Or, another easy fix, is to just have two computers |
| 00:14 | <somiaj> | twb: zoom doens't depend on ffmpeg, it is probably using its own encoder. |
| 00:14 | <tzf> | it's its own encoder it seems |
| 00:14 | <twb> | somiaj: almost certainly embedded ffmpeg tho |
| 00:14 | <twb> | libffmpeg or whatever |
| 00:14 | <twb> | unless zoom is incompetent at that also... |
| 00:15 | <twb> | tzf: since the american spies copy every zoom conversation, maybe you can just ask them for a copy |
| 00:15 | <twb> | https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/08/zoom-lied-about-end-to-end-encryption.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/04/security_and_pr_1.html |
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| 00:16 | <somiaj> | I ended up just using windows the year I had to work remotely, just to avoid issues like this. Not the best solution, but my job required it and I didn't have time to debug issues |
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| 00:17 | <tzf> | so sorry i closed by mistake and i haven't seen your 3 last sentences |
| 00:17 | <somiaj> | not missing much, anyways, contact zoom support is about the best you can do here |
| 00:17 | <tzf> | ok |
| 00:17 | <somiaj> | though I cannot get it to crash here, and I'm unsure what could be different about your setup |
| 00:18 | <tzf> | ok |
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| 00:18 | <tzf> | as soon as i get it fix hopefully i will come and give an update |
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| 00:21 | <tzf> | have a nice time, for me to go |
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| 00:51 | <jpw> | i see the default password hashing mechanism has switched to yesencrypt in bullseye. are there any utilities to generate these hashes supported by the distro? `openssl passwd` doesn't yet. |
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| 01:10 | <Konomi> | I have a strange problem, my mozilla/firefox directory has two files named prefs.js anyone know how? |
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| 01:11 | <Konomi> | even have the exact same inode number >.< |
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| 01:24 | <Konomi> | hmm I moved one of the files out now it shows as ? in the terminal output for the remaining one |
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| 01:28 | <twb> | Konomi: as in 'find -ls' reports 'prefs.js' twice? |
| 01:28 | <twb> | Konomi: sounds like your filesystem is corrupt |
| 01:29 | <Konomi> | twb: it's working fine other than this one anomaly |
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| 01:33 | <twb> | I would 1) check backups; 2) force fsck; 3) maybe backup and restore the firefox conf specifically? |
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| 01:37 | <Konomi> | I'm on btrfs also asking them there is not fsck |
| 01:38 | <Konomi> | tempted to just copy the directory and remove the directory itself but I'd probably end up with directory not empty |
| 01:38 | <Konomi> | trying all that |
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| 01:40 | <Konomi> | that worked it still complained about the file missing but rm -r on the directory containing the file I couldn't do anything with is gone |
| 01:40 | <twb> | Konomi: "btrfs fi scrub /" or whatever then |
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| 01:41 | <twb> | https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/btrfs-progs/btrfs-scrub.8.en.html |
| 01:41 | <twb> | https://manpages.debian.org/bullseye/btrfs-progs/btrfs-check.8.en.html |
| 01:41 | <Konomi> | I've got scheduled scrubs they never picked it up and just left but I'll run one anyway |
| 01:46 | <Konomi> | https://serverfault.com/questions/65616/question-marks-showing-in-ls-of-directory-io-errors-too apparently other people have had this happen before |
| 01:46 | <Konomi> | no clear solution though |
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| 01:48 | <twb> | It means the directory is corrupt |
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| 01:53 | <Konomi> | twb: someone in btrfs said something along the lines of it being a broken "dentry" |
| 01:53 | <Konomi> | web search says |
| 01:53 | <Konomi> | > A dentry is the glue that holds inodes and files together by relating inode numbers to file names. Dentries also play a role in directory caching which, ideally, keeps the most frequently used files on-hand for faster access. File system traversal is another aspect of the dentry as it maintains a relationship between directories and their files. |
| 01:54 | <twb> | >handwave< |
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| 02:16 | <Konomi> | no errors found on scrub or any previous scheduled scrubs but I presume btrfs doesn't care about a broken dentry if it was that |
| 02:17 | <twb> | Konomi: did you do a "check" also? |
| 02:18 | <twb> | Konomi: the manpage I linked to said that "scrub" is crap on btrfs |
| 02:19 | <Konomi> | hmm I'd need to reboot and get some live media |
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| 03:45 | <Konomi> | I found one other bad inode via btrfs check it was just some discord cache directory so I removed it rerun btrfs check no errors now |
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| 03:50 | <twb> | Cool |
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| 03:50 | <twb> | I'm glad the test tools helped |
| 03:50 | <Konomi> | I'm going to run --check-data-csum as well it's listed as safe and basically a read only scrub but I don't want to have to reboot again so mise well |
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| 03:52 | <Konomi> | thanfully the extents weren't affecting anything important |
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| 03:54 | <Konomi> | probably from when I had a bad motherboard freezing my system replaced that thankfully |
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| 04:03 | * | twb hugs ZFS |
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| 04:04 | <Konomi> | I imagine zfs on root wouldn't be a fun time ;p |
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| 04:16 | <twb> | Konomi: my laptop, home NAS, work server, work router/firewall, and a couple of customer servers, are all doing that. |
| 04:16 | <twb> | All on Debian 11 |
| 04:17 | <Konomi> | I thought you needed native kernel module to have zfs as the root? |
| 04:18 | <twb> | zfs-dkms is sufficient |
| 04:18 | <Konomi> | what happens if dkms fails to build? |
| 04:18 | <twb> | However /boot/efi cannot currently be on ZFS |
| 04:18 | <twb> | Konomi: then your system breaks |
| 04:18 | <twb> | Konomi: just like any other important dkms |
| 04:19 | <Konomi> | ouch I'd rather stick with btrfs, also I thought /boot/efi always had to be on fat32 reguardless cause of microsoft? |
| 04:19 | <twb> | I ran btrfs before but it just wasn't getting stable fast enough |
| 04:20 | <twb> | With ZFS I get transparent compression (so need about 60% less disk) and I can do incremental encrypted backups to untrustworthy countries like USA |
| 04:21 | <Konomi> | without getting into a debate I think btrfs could probably do all of that as well but eh, btrfs has been good for me |
| 04:22 | <Konomi> | only trouble I ever got into was the whole freespace thing back in 4.12? haven't had a problem since |
| 04:23 | <Konomi> | it would've been nice if scrub had picked up on this extent issue though |
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| 04:30 | * | enyc meows Konomi twb |
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| 04:30 | <GiuseppeBadaBopi> | Hi, i used https://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/bullseye/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso for an installation in a server, i have installed Nginx and some other packages, to the question: is there a default firewall enabled, i can't seem to reach things in the server even though ports are open in router |
| 04:30 | * | Konomi mews back |
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| 04:30 | <Konomi> | shouldn't be one |
| 04:31 | <Konomi> | all my installs even netinst/stable never had a firewall by default |
| 04:31 | <GiuseppeBadaBopi> | Locally i can reach everything fine, so that is a bit odd. |
| 04:31 | <enyc> | +1 no, there isn't a default firewall |
| 04:31 | <GiuseppeBadaBopi> | It had Ubuntu Server prior to this with disabled UFW, and then i had no issues. |
| 04:31 | <enyc> | GiuseppeBadaBopi: I could only think default-gateway set wrong on debian, but then it wouldn't talk to internet |
| 04:31 | <GiuseppeBadaBopi> | And regular server packages doesn't pull any firewall packages either? |
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| 04:32 | <enyc> | GiuseppeBadaBopi: ISP changed something in their network/nat/firmwall their end? |
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| 04:32 | <enyc> | I helped a friend set up OpenWRT routers and get rid of annoying ISP routers lately! |
| 04:32 | <GiuseppeBadaBopi> | No they have not, my IP is public and address is same as before. not NATed |
| 04:32 | <GiuseppeBadaBopi> | Not an ISP router either |
| 04:32 | <Konomi> | systemctl list-units | grep firewall just in case |
| 04:33 | <GiuseppeBadaBopi> | thanks @Konomi i will check that |
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| 04:34 | <Qan_Remote> | Something I can't google straigt away: can I upgrade several older versions to the new one ? |
| 04:34 | <Qan_Remote> | Like 7 to 11 ? |
| 04:34 | <Konomi> | I mean "can" yes |
| 04:34 | <Konomi> | will it go smoothly? no probably not |
| 04:35 | <Qan_Remote> | So I should do 4 upgrades then ? |
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| 04:35 | <Konomi> | oof that's hard to answer I've never seen anyone do it |
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| 04:35 | <Qan_Remote> | Do what ? 4 upgrades ? Sure you have, with time in between ? |
| 04:35 | <Konomi> | myself I'd just go to the latest version and fix things but I can generally fix a lot of problems easily |
| 04:35 | <Qan_Remote> | Or do you mean in 1 go ? |
| 04:36 | <Konomi> | also doing each version would obviously take longer |
| 04:36 | <Konomi> | I've always kept up to date so maybe someone else will know I can't really answer hoping more than 1 major release |
| 04:36 | <Qan_Remote> | Kinda sucks, but ok. System is bare, so should be fast. |
| 04:37 | <Qan_Remote> | Ouch, postgressql right almost fergot |
| 04:37 | <Qan_Remote> | Have to do a dump-to-upgrade first, or will debian take care of that ? |
| 04:38 | <Anarka> | theres info on postgres debian package readme on what to do but you should for sure have a backup before doing it |
| 04:40 | <Qan_Remote> | Found it, debian should do it, but a db-dump is a good plan |
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| 07:52 | <AndroUser> | Hello |
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| 07:52 | <AndroUser> | I have an issue who can support me |
| 07:53 | <AndroUser> | When I rotate screen, mplayer is not playing in its frame |
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| 08:34 | <TP211> | hello |
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| 08:38 | <TP211> | Which channel do I go to (If I want to ask questions about APT)? |
| 08:38 | <TP211> | Is it #debian-dpkg? |
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| 09:22 | <AndroUser> | Who can support me |
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| 11:01 | <bentham> | I'm noticing something very strange with my newly installed bullseye system. |
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| 11:01 | <bentham> | The function keys are not producing the right outputs. |
| 11:01 | <bentham> | For example, F3 is tab, F4 is 'a', F5 is 'd', and so on. |
| 11:02 | <bentham> | I have a window manager that depends upon the function keys intrinsically. |
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| 11:02 | <bentham> | In fact, I have the same home directory across two debian bullseye amd64 machines with identical keyboards and keyboard configurations. |
| 11:02 | <bentham> | (or so I think) |
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| 11:03 | <bentham> | I tried dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration but it does nothing. It has the same values as the correct keyboard, which works. |
| 11:03 | <bentham> | I've tried a few different window managers and see the same problems regardless. |
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| 11:03 | <bentham> | Am I missing something fundamental perhaps? Maybe an xorg package? |
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| 11:15 | <bentham> | this is what I get when I run xev and press the F4 key: https://paste.debian.net/1219607/ |
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| 11:17 | <bentham> | whereas I want this behaviour instead: https://paste.debian.net/1219608/ |
| 11:18 | <bentham> | Not sure why it thinks that Super_L is pressed |
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| 11:21 | <blast007> | have you tried another keyboard on that computer? |
| 11:23 | <bentham> | blast007: That's a fine plan. |
| 11:24 | <bentham> | Actually, I think I got it. This keyboard has strange defaults, and I forgot the special thing that I had to do to set it up. |
| 11:24 | <bentham> | Thanks all. |
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| 12:06 | <blast007> | colinmc: Please keeps messages in the channel |
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| 12:09 | <colinmc> | blast007 configure keyboard are easy, research in google |
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| 12:09 | <blast007> | I'm not configuring a keyboard |
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| 12:10 | <colinmc> | talk of freeBSD Unix, have debian 10.9 in other portable, freeBSD and Debian, are bigger Unix |
| 12:10 | <colinmc> | Your Unix are system V, are very easy and more bigger of freeBSD |
| 12:11 | <colinmc> | will update debian 10.9 to 11.1 more later |
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| 12:12 | <colinmc> | My first computer dragon 64k with Unix and Pc xt, write little in C/C++, how for example tetris or super mario bros |
| 12:12 | <colinmc> | remakes only in debian |
| 12:12 | <colinmc> | 45/M/Catalonia |
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| 12:15 | <colinmc> | have 16 computers and will other 5 portables, will make laboratory of much Unix of much colours, how openBSD, netBSD, debian hurd, Aix, Sco, solaris, slackware, kilie, ubuntu, openSuSE, dragonfy, ghostBSD |
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| 12:15 | <colinmc> | dragonfly |
| 12:15 | <colinmc> | talk of old computer, are slow, have new portables how leonovo |
| 12:16 | <colinmc> | Mac os big sur to macintosh are Unix shit |
| 12:17 | <colinmc> | blast007 in installation of debian you cant try your language |
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| 12:17 | <colinmc> | and cant encrypted partition |
| 12:17 | <blast007> | what |
| 12:18 | <colinmc> | blast007 debian are easy linux |
| 12:18 | <colinmc> | linux are Unix system V, and are good but are easy |
| 12:19 | <colinmc> | english high almost very high |
| 12:20 | <colinmc> | Slackware run promot how unix system BSD, but slackware system V, are small Linux but are good |
| 12:20 | <blast007> | !chat |
| 12:20 | <dpkg> | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic or #moocows; or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/ |
| 12:21 | <colinmc> | dpkg ok i understand i go in network with debian and much Unix's |
| 12:21 | <dpkg> | colinmc: i haven't a clue |
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| 13:13 | <Meecosha> | This looks fun |
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| 13:15 | <jeremiah> | Indeed it is. |
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| 13:22 | <grump-e> | is there any image of debian i can put on a CD to get started? |
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| 13:23 | <grump-e> | don't have any blank dvds ... or usb sticks... trying to figure out how to install debia... |
| 13:23 | <enigma9o7[m]> | the net installer fits on a cd, but you'll want a network... |
| 13:24 | <grump-e> | that is fine, i can plug the unit in to a router |
| 13:25 | <grump-e> | i figured it would need a connection given that it'll need more files... just need a minimum install to be in *nix land |
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| 13:26 | <enigma9o7[m]> | https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.1.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-11.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso for example |
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| 13:36 | <grump-e> | OK cool... i think i am on the path |
| 13:36 | <grump-e> | trying to bust out! of win10... -.- |
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| 13:37 | <Sqrt{not}> | grump-e, also see the install manual: https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/installmanual |
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| 13:38 | <grump-e> | thanksSs |
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| 14:33 | <spawacz> | mason: guess what, im just done restoring all the data from yesterday |
| 14:33 | <spawacz> | and disk was NOT an issue |
| 14:33 | <spawacz> | facepalm.jpg |
| 14:33 | <spawacz> | i have some dodgy motherboard that breaks disks when you change kernel boot options, something with iommu |
| 14:35 | <spawacz> | and i was toying with these past day |
| 14:36 | <mason> | spawacz: Ah!!! Yeah, it's always good to verify all the different pieces. The disk seemed like a fair bet, but we couldn't rule out the controller. |
| 14:37 | <mason> | I'm glad it's understood and under control today. |
| 14:37 | <spawacz> | https://archived.forum.manjaro.org/t/installed-linux-on-gigabyte-970a-ds3p-motherboard-lost-all-data/110018 |
| 14:38 | <spawacz> | This is literally my situation 100% |
| 14:39 | <spawacz> | well, technically i still dont understand what this magical switch does |
| 14:39 | <spawacz> | but i sure will read on that |
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| 15:44 | <fake_sney> | can I use timedatctl to update system time form internet? |
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| 15:46 | <sney> | o_o |
| 15:47 | <jkc> | fake_sney: Yes. timedatectl set-ntp on |
| 15:48 | <fake_sney> | thanks i will try it , can I run a command when resuming from hibnernation? |
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| 15:55 | <fake_sney> | clock need to be updated after |
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| 15:57 | <jkc> | fake_sney: That's a setting, not a command. Once enabled, it'll just do it regularly. |
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| 16:07 | <somiaj> | note by default systemd-timesyncd should be keeping your time in sync with the internet. |
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| 16:56 | <micha> | Hi, I want to start a gui program (Bitwig) only after some performance optimization of the system (disable SMT, minimum CPU clock 1800). I have a nice bash script that uses sudo to do that. Now I want to call the bash script from a GNOME .desktop file, but I can't see a way to enter my password. |
| 16:56 | <micha> | Is there a "proper" way to do this? |
| 16:56 | <enyc> | micha: hrrm various approaches... |
| 16:57 | <enyc> | micha: there are graphical-sudo gksudo and stuff |
| 16:57 | <enyc> | micha: its' also possible to set up sudo permisisons so your user can call particular commands with NOPASSWD etc.... |
| 16:57 | <enyc> | micha: [not a good idea to make all sudo [something] no-password. |
| 16:57 | <somiaj> | I think gksudo is basically gone, you can either setup sudoers to allow you to run this without a password, or you can use polkit |
| 16:58 | <micha> | somiaj, right I think gksu is only in stretch |
| 16:58 | <somiaj> | you can also set a uid bit on the exectuable, there are various methods, though polkit is the more common gui way these days |
| 16:59 | <micha> | ok, thanks! |
| 17:00 | <kveroneau> | That's why I love Plasma still. In Plasma, you can create .desktop files and easily enable "Run as different" user requirement with ease. |
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| 17:01 | <kveroneau> | With PolicyKit, you can try using `pkexec` |
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| 17:03 | <kveroneau> | eg. `x-terminal-emulator -e pkexec nano` will run `nano` in your default terminal as root. |
| 17:03 | <kveroneau> | pkexec does not appear to pass the X Display around though. |
| 17:04 | <kveroneau> | But it might work with Wayland. |
| 17:04 | <tertu> | so somehow under plasma |
| 17:04 | <tertu> | a bunch of kinds of files now have defaulted to opening in okteta. |
| 17:04 | <tertu> | which, i love okteta, it's great. i do not typically want to open an mp3 in okteta. |
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| 17:07 | <ABEL> | hola |
| 17:07 | <kveroneau> | tertu, seems like your MIME database got messed up. If you create a new temp user, and log in with that, do MP3 files open with the correct program then? |
| 17:08 | <micha> | kveroneau: yup, pkexec works... thanks! |
| 17:08 | <kveroneau> | If so, then your local MIME database to your user got corrupted or something. You can either manually fix it all, or just remove it from your ~/.local/share/mime/ directory. |
| 17:09 | <kveroneau> | Then run `update-mime-database` |
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| 17:09 | <kveroneau> | micha, glad that worked out for you. |
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| 17:09 | <micha> | is there a way to authenticate only once with pkexec? So I set cpufreq as root, call bitwig as myself, unset cpufreq as root? |
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| 17:11 | <kveroneau> | micha, I'm sure it's possible, but I am sure it will also be tricky. Hmm, I wonder if rtkit might be more useful for this. |
| 17:11 | <coc0nut> | I dont actually like that the debian.org page is translated.. :p makes it confusing. english is the language for computers. imo |
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| 17:13 | <kveroneau> | micha, there appears to be a GNOME applet for cpufreq, you might just need to add yourself to a specific group to make it work under your user. |
| 17:14 | <micha> | ok, thanks! |
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| 17:15 | <tertu> | i am on unstable so maybe i should go into next about this |
| 17:15 | <tertu> | tbh |
| 17:16 | <kveroneau> | tertu, it could be a bug in unstable. |
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| 17:47 | <The-Fly> | dumb question of the day - Is there a way to setup sources.list in /etc/apt so that it pulls the same version of a package that was released at a given point, and not necessarily the latest ? I need to setup a VM that only uses packages that were current when 11.1 was released, and not anything further (such as security updates, bug fixes, etc) |
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| 17:50 | <somiaj> | well if you want 11.1 you can just not include security repos, but once 11.2 comes out you can no longer only get 11.1 packages |
| 17:50 | <somiaj> | though this seems like a very odd (and unsupported use case) |
| 17:51 | <somiaj> | there is also snapshot for older packages, but in this case if you want the current point release but no security updates, don't include security sources or stable-updates |
| 17:51 | <The-Fly> | agreed that its odd. I'm doing some bug hunting |
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| 17:51 | <ckosloff> | after 2-3 days of tinkering with the bulleye installer, unsuccessfully, I decided to use old stable, it installed, I had my computer back, but my joy was short-lived, because I had freezes, causing me to shut down from power to restart, firefox was failing bady. so I decided to upgrade to bulleye by tweaking my sources.list, the proces got a seg fault, and after reboot I could no longer boot into my user, it was going on a loop, |
| 17:51 | <ckosloff> | at this point I think that some hardware is going bad, I tried replacing memory, installed new sticks, so the only thing left is to replace hard drive,. Any suggestion before I take the brute force approach of wiping hard drive again? |
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| 17:51 | <somiaj> | you can also get old versions of packages from snapshot for that, and downgrade just the ones you want. |
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| 19:30 | <joeDoe> | how come "dpkg -l "*" | grep weechat" doesn't output weechat-matrix, but I can find it in aptitude? |
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| 19:33 | <joeDoe> | I thought the "*" made it list everything |
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| 19:34 | <sarnold> | dpkg -l only prints packages that dpkg knows about -- if you've never installed weechat-matrix, then dpkg doesn't know about it -- compare dpkg -l | wc -l vs apt-cache search a | wc -l |
| 19:34 | <dpkg> | No packages found matching only prints packages that dpkg knows about -- if you've never installed weechat-matrix, then dpkg doesn't know about it -- compare dpkg -l | wc -l vs apt-cache search a | wc -l |
| 19:35 | <sarnold> | dpkgplz |
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| 19:36 | <themill> | dpkg, cookie? |
| 19:36 | <dpkg> | themill: are you smoking crack? |
| 19:36 | <themill> | rude bot |
| 19:38 | <joeDoe> | haha, maybe the bot couldn't find the package because of the spaces in the name :P |
| 19:38 | <joeDoe> | anyway, thanks |
| 19:39 | <joeDoe> | I've never used apt-cache before :) |
| 19:41 | <joeDoe> | dpkg -l | wc -l gives 1024 lines whereas dpkg -l "*" | wc -l gives 2424 lines. What are those extra 1,400 packages? |
| 19:41 | <dpkg> | No packages found matching | wc -l gives 1024 lines whereas dpkg -l "*" | wc -l gives 2424 lines. What are those extra 1,400 packages |
| 19:41 | <joeDoe> | oops |
| 19:42 | <joeDoe> | and oh yeah, 56,214 for apt-cache search !! |
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| 20:05 | <Sqrt{not}> | ckosloff, if you think the disk is possibly bad, you should run smartctl to see if there are already reported problems with it. |
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| 20:29 | <ckosloff> | Sqrt{not}: so I am reinstalling without desktop environmentbecause I don't want the installer to cause failures b installing all the gnome shite, whih is difficult to take out, completely, so I am botting into terminal, as root apt install smartmontools? |
| 20:31 | <dvs> | good plan |
| 20:33 | <ckosloff> | already installed |
| 20:33 | <ckosloff> | now got some work to do |
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| 20:40 | <JonasTripps> | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykT_g0-bgZo&t=44s |
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| 21:35 | <richard_h> | systemd[106869]: gpgconf: error running '/usr/lib/gnupg/scdaemon': probably not installed |
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| 21:36 | <richard_h> | I'm not sure what precisely is logging that, but should it? I don't have any smartcard stuff installed; that's not an error ... |
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| 21:55 | <abrotman> | richard_h: are you just trying to clear the error? |
| 21:55 | <abrotman> | does that number match a PID on your system? |
| 21:56 | <richard_h> | not a current pid; it happens at login time |
| 21:56 | <sarnold> | it does seem silly to log it as an error when it's entirely normal |
| 21:57 | <richard_h> | yes, more or less - I'm cleaning up my logcheck output |
| 21:57 | <richard_h> | most of it I filter, but some looks inappropriate to log in the first place |
| 21:57 | <sarnold> | if you were trying to debug a problem around gpgconf / scdaemon you might be thrilled to have it, but I have to imagine almost no one cares about scdaemon |
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| 22:57 | <ckosloff> | Sqrt{not}: ran long test with smartctl and it did not report errors, however errors exist, stop errors when it goes in a loop until it times out, I would have never imagined that upgrading to bullseye would crash the sytem, will comment further tomorrow. |
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| 22:58 | <ckosloff> | Sqrt{not}: and memtest86 only runs in Windose |
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| 23:17 | <mason> | Is there something akin to "aptitude -v why" that can tell me why if I want to delete one package, another specific package needs to be uninstalled? |
| 23:17 | <mason> | I'm not seeing the direct line between the two. |
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| 23:19 | <mason> | I'd love for apt to explain inclusions of the sort. |
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| 23:26 | <mason> | And that tool is apt-rdepends, although it's necessary to follow the chain by hand. |
| 23:27 | <mason> | (The original question was "Why in the world does purging libelogind0 want to delete init?" The answer ended up being, "because util-linux depends on libsystemd0.") |
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