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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-11-20

---Logopened Sat Nov 20 00:00:11 2021
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00:02-!-simonpatapon is "Simon Patapon" on #debian-quebec #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
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01:31-!-Fraggle2 is "Christian Britz" on #debian-offtopic #debian-next #debian
01:32<dada>After the debian11 nvidia driver, run the nvidia-smi command, and it shows No running processes found in the gpu process
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01:33<dada>After the debian11 nvidia driver, run the nvidia-smi command, and it shows No running processes found in the gpu process
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01:34<dada>After the debian11 nvidia driver, run the nvidia-smi command, and it shows No running processes found in the gpu process. What is going on here?
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01:34<enigma9o7[m]>hahha i was hoping for a third time
01:34<enigma9o7[m]>2x wasnt enough
01:34<enigma9o7[m]>i had this feeling it would appear again i was just waiting ont he edge of my seat
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01:35<dada>hello
01:36<dada>Can someone help me
01:36<dada> After the debian11 nvidia driver, run the nvidia-smi command, and it shows No running processes found in the gpu process. What is going on here?
01:36<raven523>dada: sorry, I have no idea
01:37<enigma9o7[m]>maybe if you say it a fifth time?
01:37<raven523>dada: you should wait longer before repeating your messages. We do see them, but we usually don't answer questions if we don't know an answer
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01:38<dada>thanks
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01:49<dada>After the debian11 nvidia driver, run the nvidia-smi command, and it shows No running processes found in the gpu process. What is going on here?
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02:04<SpaceShark>I'm up and running and ready to go!
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02:08<jcbjoe2021>anyone good with vncserver and vncviewr i see debian on the screen but i can't get a shell or anything
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06:15<holzkopf>Hi, so I have a vps with like 256mb ram or so, and most of that is used in idle without any services running. I suspect I could fix that with a more slim kernel, which is there somewhere I suppose for the cloud images. Can I just install one of those in my normal install? If yes, where can I find the package names?
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06:20<cpach>does anyone know how i can test if my disk device has an MBR?
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06:27<holzkopf>OK I just installed the cloud image and nothing exploded
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06:29<holzkopf>cpach: First I'd check which partition table you're using, then you can look at the first 512 bytes
06:30<holzkopf>See https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/how-to-see-master-boot-record-773428/
06:30<holzkopf>For example if you have a GPT table you can't have an mbr
06:30<holzkopf>Idk hope that helps
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07:02<cpach>holzkopf: thank you! i thank "parted -l" can also show it
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08:00<miqdadali619>hi
08:00<miqdadali619>
08:00<miqdadali619>#!/user/bin python3
08:00<miqdadali619># Disclaimer: This script is for educational purposes only.
08:00<miqdadali619># Do not use against any network that you don't own or have authorization to test.
08:00<miqdadali619># To run this script use:
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08:11<cpach>i'm in the process of getting a diy nas up and running. anyone done this on debian? did you simply install samba or nfs and call it a day? or are there other approaches to consider?
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08:26<cpach>let's say that i have debian installed on my SDD at /dev/sdc2
08:26<cpach>but for various reasons, my pc will not boot this installation.
08:26<cpach>so i boot instead using a debian live usb stick. how can i instruct the live stick to boot /dev/sdc2...?
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09:47<g00se>The root directory seems to be owned by me rather than root. Why would that be? I'm connected via ssh
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09:51<Gombye>g00se: Are you sure that it is not owned by root (you did say 'seems')? What does 'ls -ld /' output?
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09:56<g00se>goose:goose. I chowned it back to root and now apt upgrade is proceeding. Still mystified how it got like that though
09:57<Gombye>I do not know. Maybe you changed it to that a long time ago and forgot?
09:58<g00se>Even I'm not that unhinged ;)
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10:01<g00se>Actually, if someone did that, it would probably a workaround. Difficult to think of other stuff that would approach that level of amateurism
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11:46<Besnik_b>Hello! Is there a place where to report broken links in Debian site?
11:46<Besnik_b>I don’t see any option for opening issues in https://salsa.debian.org/webmaster-team/webwml
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11:56<Fraggle2>Besnik_b: I think other -> www.debian.org
11:56<Fraggle2>in the reportbug tool
12:00<Fraggle2>Besnik_b: on www.debian.org is also "To report a problem with the web site, please e-mail our publicly archived mailing list debian-www@lists.debian.org in English."
12:00<Fraggle2>You probably can choose
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12:01<Fraggle2>lol, reportbug hangs, when I want to quit
12:03<Besnik_b>Fraggle2, thank you! Is https://www.debian.org/Bugs/ the reportbug tool you mention?
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12:08<Fraggle2>Besnik_b: it is a tool which you can install, see https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
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12:10<Besnik_b>Ouch, first no Issues allowed, now an installation… I’d rather send a mail.
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12:11<Fraggle2>Besnik_b: if you currently run debian there is a good chance that reportbug is already installed. but I guess the mail is OK in this case...
12:13<Besnik_b>Fraggle2, yes I do. Just checked and “reportbug” is installed. Good news.
12:15<Besnik_b>Email sent.
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12:23<spawacz>Hello, is there any sensor package working on arm machines?
12:23<spawacz>something like lm-sensors
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12:26<hyrc>spawacz: this is exposed by your kernel
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12:28<hyrc>e.g. cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
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12:29<hyrc>i run this script in background to get temp, cpu use, memory use, download, upload speed, and time/date http://0x0.st/-Rtc.sh
12:30<hyrc>in my xterm window title
12:30<spawacz>hyrc: it works!
12:30<spawacz>thanks
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15:28<luiz>hi, bluetooth not working
15:30<luiz>blueman-manager 17.29.47 ERROR Manager:122 on_dbus_name_appeared: No adapter(s) found, exiting
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15:31<alexrelis>luiz: Can you find the make/model of your Wireless card via lspci or lsucb?
15:31<alexrelis>In any event, try using a backported kernel. That fixes a good deal of hardware issues these days.
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15:32<luiz>Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0cf3:e004 Qualcomm Atheros Communications Bluetooth USB Host Controller
15:33<alexrelis>Yeah just try a backported kernel. https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index1h2
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15:48<luiz>just did it, is there a next step?
15:49<sney>install the kernel from there, e.g. 'apt -t bullseye-backports install linux-image-amd64' and then reboot
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15:51<tuxd3v>hello, does any one has experience in creating videos, lets say for youtube or so?
15:51<somiaj>Not really a debian question, what is it you are you looking for?
15:52<tuxd3v>I am trying ffmpeg, and also simplescreenrecorder..
15:52<somiaj>there is obs-studio if you want to stream/record, and there are various other apps you can use for video editing
15:52<hyrc>simplescreenrecorder can't get much easier
15:53<somiaj>shotcut / openshot are two you can find in debian, there are others, you may want to try what works best
15:53<tuxd3v>well, I would like with ffmpeg to use a superfast preset, also I would love to have my final fideo as 16:9 aspect ratio
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15:53<tuxd3v>video*
15:54<hyrc>debian also has kdenlive for editing, though that might be less intuitive than openshot - depending on your background
15:54<somiaj>My only issue with ffmpeg is it is to manual, but if that is what you like, then go with it. As for aspect ratio, this is a lot to do with your recording
15:54<tuxd3v>also how do you guys reduce machine noise?
15:54<sney>the editing applications have good render/export presets usually, so you don't need to call ffmpeg directly, just select those options when you are exporting the project after editing
15:54<somiaj>personally I would try to change the aspect ratio from the source
15:54<tuxd3v>is there any filters for that?
15:55<tuxd3v>basically to eliminate high frequencies..
15:55<somiaj>but for streaming / recording, you may find obs-studio quite nice, it is fairly well done and quite popular for streamers
15:55<sney>any decent editing suite will have eq/limiting plugins for audio, look at the documentation for the one you choose
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15:58<tuxd3v>the problem I find is that I am doing X11grab( to grab X11 screen ), and my monitor is 16:9 , the problem is that the video endup 4:3 or by other words distorted..
15:58<hyrc>does your recorded video end up distorted after screen capture, or after youtube converts it?
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16:00<somiaj>what is the resolution on your monitor, could it be that even though your monintor is 16x9 your using a 4x3 resolution that is being stretched (just double checking)
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16:23<tuxd3v>hyrc, is distorted after it gets recorded :(
16:23<tuxd3v>because it stays in 4:3 format, while my display is 16:9 :/
16:23<hyrc>what resolution is your monitor running at? (xrandr can tell you)
16:24<hyrc>@ tuxd3v
16:24<tuxd3v>and SimplerScreenRecorder doesn't have a option to set input video to 16:9 :/
16:24<tuxd3v>1680x1050
16:25<hyrc>that's not 16:9 then is it
16:25<tuxd3v>well my screen is 16:9
16:25<hyrc>the resolution is 14.4:9
16:26<somiaj>1680/1050 = 8/5, is not 16:9, so it seems you have the aspect ratio of the source, or it is being scaled to a more reasonable ratio
16:26<tuxd3v>it scales it to 4:3
16:26<hyrc>( hat tip to somiaj )
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16:27<tuxd3v>hyrc, yeah, many thanks to him, maybe I will find a way, but simplescreenrecorder doesn't offer acpect ratio :/
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16:28<hyrc>you might need to subsequently run the video through ffmpeg with video filter setsar to change the source aspect ratio
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16:31<blast007>tuxd3v: I just recorded a 16:9 video at 2560x1440 just fine with simplescreenrecorder
16:31<blast007>I don't know if it would behave different with a 16:10 display like yours
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16:34<blast007>tried changing to 1280x720 so it's a common 16:9 resolution?
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16:39<tuxd3v>tried to set with option -aspect 14.4:9 but it gives me a error..
16:39<tuxd3v>Option aspect (set aspect ratio (4:3, 16:9 or 1.3333, 1.7777)) cannot be applied to input url :0.0 -- you are trying to apply an input option to an output file or vice versa. Move this option before the file it belongs to.
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16:44<hyrc>you can do the aspect conversion and capture using a customized ffmpeg command
16:44<hyrc>this would convert aspect ratio before recording to your disk, or before sending to stream
16:45<hyrc>it might be easiest to do it first with a temporary file, captured at native screen aspect ratio, then convert that before uploading
16:45<somiaj>tuxd3v: I don't think it likes the decimial in the x:y form, try 8:5
16:45<hyrc>i don't know what program gives him error
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16:57<blast007>or just use another program like OBS Studio
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17:17<Animortis>Hey guys, I want to volunteer my 4k 144hz monitor details to the amdgpu driver devs because it seems to not be supported. Anyone know whom I reach out to?
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17:19<sney>upstream kernel issues should be reported following this document, https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/reporting-issues.html
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17:52<tuxd3v>somiaj, its vlc the culprit
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17:52<tuxd3v>if I play the video in full screen the aspect ration apears ok
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17:52<tuxd3v>at least to me
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17:54<hyrc>fullscreen might be 'stretching' the video
17:54<flyaway_waggle-siding>So I have an interesting problem. I am trying to install a 3rd party kernel package. But dpkg is "giving up" (it's words :P) because control.tar.zstd uses unknown compression. How do I work around this. just making sure that zstd is installed doesn't seem to be enough.
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17:55<hyrc>.zstd is unknown to me also
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18:00<sney>zstd support has been available for a few years but libapt-pkg in debian doesn't build with it for some reason. you could extract the package manually with dpkg-deb or ar and run the initramfs/grub stuff yourself, since it's just a kernel it probably doesn't have extra dependencies
18:01<sney>hm, ar is probably the only option for extracting it if dpkg won't recognize zstd compression
18:02<flyaway_waggle-siding>could I replace libapt-pkg with the one from ubuntu? I'd like to keep using regular package as I want the kernel to be updated from the repositiory for updates of course
18:02<flyaway_waggle-siding>basically install dpkg with zstd support
18:02<sney>I really doubt that would be a good idea, using a core utility from a different OS
18:03<flyaway_waggle-siding>Would rebuilding the debian package myself with zstd support be a very involved process?
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18:04<Sqrt{not}>also seems unlikely that regular kernel upgrades will be interface with this 3rd party package, doesn't it? what is the package?
18:05<flyaway_waggle-siding>This is weird https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/libapt-pkg6.0 lists zstd as a dependency
18:06<sney>looks like enabling support stalled out with #892664 and some discoveries that zstd is producing larger tarballs than xz, the current default
18:06<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/892664 in dpkg (open, patch, moreinfo): «dpkg: Please add decompression support for zstd»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2018-03-11; last modified: 2021-08-12.
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18:06<sney>hm, maybe it was enabled for sid and not mentioned in the bug/changelog? I'm on bookworm but I don't have a zstd-compressed deb to check
18:07<flyaway_waggle-siding>I have a respberry pi 4 for which the stock debian kernel doesn't provide 3d acceleration. The kernel from Raspberry PI OS comes in some sort of weird non standard format, so the initramfs generation doesn't trigger on it.
18:07<flyaway_waggle-siding>So I am hoing to use this kernel here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/kernel/linux-image-5.13.0-1008-raspi
18:08<flyaway_waggle-siding>sney you can test with an ubuntu package from imipish they seem to use zstd
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18:10<flyaway_waggle-siding>http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux-raspi/{linux-image-5.13.0-1008-raspi_5.13.0-1008.9_arm64.deb,linux-image-raspi_5.13.0.1008.14_arm64.deb,linux-modules-5.13.0-1008-raspi_5.13.0-1008.9_arm64.deb,linux-modules-extra-5.13.0-1008-raspi_5.13.0-1008.9_arm64.deb. they don't really make the download links discoverable on their packages page
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18:10<hyrc>there's nothing 'special' about a .tar.xyz compressed file
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18:11<hyrc>if you have a decompressor program decompress .xyz files, you can get the uncompressed tar
18:11<hyrc>and feed that to dpkg, or even recompress to gz
18:11<sney>the question is making dpkg understand it, not being able to uncompress it manually
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18:12<hyrc>dpkg can't
18:12<dpkg>Yes I can!
18:12<hyrc>lol
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18:12<sney>yes, as seen in the bug linked above, it's not enabled in debian for some unclear reason
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18:13<sney>and just tested in bookworm (thanks for the download link flyaway_waggle-siding), dpkg still bails with 'unknown compression' despite that build-dep. hmm .
18:13<flyaway_waggle-siding>yeah
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18:14<flyaway_waggle-siding>is this likely to blow up if i install the dpkg library component from ubuntu on debian bookworm?
18:14<sney>you could build the kernel again yourself, get the source package and config and make your own bindeb-pkg
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18:14<sney>I would be *really* wary of doing that, again, with core tools from a different distro. but if you have good backups and don't mind risking it, *shrug*
18:15<flyaway_waggle-siding>I liked the idea of using the ubuntu kernel because then I would just have them working for me instead of builing kernels regularily
18:15<flyaway_waggle-siding>they have actual engineers for this
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18:16<flyaway_waggle-siding>sney Are you more reserved you would about this than using their kernel? If so why?
18:16<flyaway_waggle-siding>the "you would" is three words to far in front...
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18:17<sney>kernels are very self-contained and can be switched around freely with few consequences. something like apt/dpkg is much more integrated with libc6 and so on, built for the specific versions of libraries chosen when the release was stabilized
18:18<flyaway_waggle-siding>I see that makes sense
18:19<sney>plus any ubuntu-specific patches getting involved, they typically have completely different patch sets and it's tough to predict
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18:23<flyaway_waggle-siding>I'll try with ubuntu's libapt. I don't have any data to lose yet and I'd rather now know if this works or not. Without 3d acceleration a gnome desktop hard-hangs after 3 minutes so that is pretty bad,too. Would libapt-pkg6.0_2.3.12_arm64.deb be the component that is responsible for the decompression?
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18:24<flyaway_waggle-siding>being on debian bookwork and getting the package from ubuntu 21.10 should keep the divergence in lib versions somewhat manageable too
18:24<sney>I think you would have to install the whole set of binary packages from the apt source, you can see them in the lower left panel on tracker.debian.org/apt
18:25<sney>or at least just apt, apt-utils, and libapt-pkg
18:26<flyaway_waggle-siding>Thanks. In case this works, I'd like to add the ubuntu repository to my sources list and then pin it in such a way that only the apt components and the kernel packages are fetched from it. How would I go about that?
18:26<sney>read the man page for apt_preferences
18:27<sney>and know that you are essentially making a frankendebian, even if this works you've kind of hit the end of the road for support in #debian
18:27*kveroneau thinks they should make a frankendebian next Halloween.
18:27<kveroneau>Night of the living Debian!!!
18:28<flyaway_waggle-siding>yeah, it isn't really ideal. But on Raspberry PI OS or ubuntu I feel less home, so going about it a bit limited seems okayish. it is on a toy computer after all
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18:33<flyaway_waggle-siding>I'll be back in minutes with the results
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18:38<com>testing
18:38<sney>!test
18:38<dpkg>Test failed.
18:38*kveroneau laughs
18:38<com>nice
18:38<com>whats going on then
18:38<kveroneau>Silence
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18:39<sney>this is a debian support channel, if you are looking for a social chat see this answer from the bot:
18:39<sney>!chat
18:39<dpkg>This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic or #moocows; or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/
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18:51<flyaway_waggle_siding>ok, so now for the twist nobody could have seen coming: of course the ubuntu package for libapt is zstd compressed. haha
18:52<sney>lol, naturally
18:53<sney>the universe is telling you to build that kernel yourself. or just use ubuntu, I guess
18:53<sney>the ubuntu infrastructure probably has somewhere you can subscribe to new kernel uploads, and repeat the process whenever one happens
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19:09<flyaway_waggle-siding>what is the type of compression/packaging used for the outer layer of a .deb? So the first level that contains the two .tar archives adnd the text file?
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19:10<somiaj>ar
19:12<sney>*pirate voice*
19:13<flyaway_waggle-siding>yar x *.deb, matey
19:14<kveroneau>It's not talk like a pirate day yet... Or is it?
19:14*kveroneau thinks they might have missed talk like a pirate day now. Looks around nervously.
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19:16<flyaway_waggle-siding>all day every day
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19:18<somiaj>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ar_(Unix)
19:18<somiaj>though unsure if that was clear, or we just got jokey
19:18<flyaway_waggle-siding>ok so I am trying to manually extract the top level of some .deb archives, turn the control.tar.zst and data.tar.zstd into just tar. archives and "recompress" this. But ar seems to follow some kind of superold/basic paradigm about what an archiver should be interacted with like, so it isn't really easy to figure out
19:19<flyaway_waggle-siding>somiaj both really
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19:29<flyaway_waggle-siding>ar r apt_2.3.9_arm64.deb *
19:29<flyaway_waggle-siding>ar: creating apt_2.3.9_arm64.deb
19:29<flyaway_waggle-siding>that seems to work
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19:37<flyaway_waggle-siding>alright trying again, back in a bit
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19:55<flyaway_waggle-siding>ok this seems a little foolish of an errant. packages created by ar are not recognized as proper .debs so that doesnt work
19:58<flyaway_waggle-siding>different plan: Anyone have an idea why this kernel package https://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/r/raspberrypi-firmware/raspberrypi-kernel_1.20211029-1_arm64.deb when installed on debian doesn't trigger all the setup steps that then makes the system boot into this kernel on the next boot? and how to add that?
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20:01<sney>it's probably just some difference between what the postinst can and can't do. someone in #raspbian on libera (like plugwash, if they still idle there) could probably explain it
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20:09<baribal>Hi. I've got a Debian 11 install CD running on my other machine. It needs a .ucode file from iwlwifi, so I copied that on a USB drive, stuck it into the other machine, I can see it appearing as /dev/sdb1, "Load missing firmware from removable media?", Yes, Continue, "Detect network hardware"... I'm back at the screen asking me for the file. And I just confirmed that the file is really on the drive, in its root directory. How do I
20:09<baribal>proceed?
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20:21<Sqrt{not}>baribal, did you consult the install guide section about missing firmware? https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/ch06s04.en.html
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20:22<baribal>No, thanks, reading...
20:22<Sqrt{not}>baribal, if it still doesn't work, you could try using one of the installer images that already include firmware.
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20:24<baribal>Oh. The disk is formatted in ext4, that may be the problem?
20:24<Sqrt{not}>they do seem to suggest FAT
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20:25<baribal>Yeah... meaning that I'll have to find another stick...
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20:26<Sqrt{not}>installers including firmware are here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.1.0+nonfree/
20:27<baribal>Thanks, but that also won't help without a stick. ^^
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21:14<alexrelis>OBS Studio and kdenlive are a good start.
21:14<alexrelis>ffmpeg to convert video/audio to anything you want. Handbrake if you want a front-end to ffmpeg.
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21:20<aloo_shu>handbrake isn't a frontend to ffmpeg, afaict
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21:21<aloo_shu>it doesn't deppend on it, but is probably sharing a good number of dependencies with it
21:21<sney>it uses the libav* stuff rather than calling the ffmpeg utility, but close enough
21:23<sney>though it does other stuff as well so 'ffmpeg frontend' doesn't cover the whole functionality
21:25<kveroneau>Well, if they are using kdenlive, it can technically export in a variety of formats anyways, so they really shouldn't have to transcode a second time. And kdeinelive I believe calls ffmpeg to render the final product.
21:26<sney>yes, I typically don't use any other utilities after exporting something from kdenlive
21:26<kveroneau>When I recently created my YouTube video about using Xen Server on Debian, I recorded the screencast using OBS, then used Kdenlive in post-production to put it all together in a nice package.
21:26<aloo_shu>winff is an incomplete ffmpeg frontend, and on debian
21:27<kveroneau>If anybody is curious, here is the video in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VewI4zPg7fY
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21:28<kveroneau>I'd love any feedback, as I am planning on continuing this series with other virtualization and container technology.
21:30<alexrelis>Have you done qemu/kvm yet?
21:30<alexrelis>Or lxc/lxd containers?
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21:31<kveroneau>I have done videos on installing various VMs using libvirt, so yes, QEMU/KVM. Check the other videos on my channel, and yes, I do plan on doing a video soon on LXC.
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21:32<kveroneau>I actually use LXC inside Xen in that video. ;)
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21:32<aloo_shu>pretty sure kdenlive uses ffmpeg for the export, iirc there's an optional step to edit the ffmpeg command before giving it a go
21:33<kveroneau>alexrelis, you left the channel briefly while I mentioned that the video I posted actually shows an LXC inside one of the Xen doms.
21:33<alexrelis>Cool
21:33<aloo_shu>vlc is another one to draw on ffmpeg by default for transcoding, afaik
21:35<kveroneau>One thing I lacked to mention in the video is that this entire Xen server is actually running inside a KVM, it's not running on native hardware, which is why you don't see OBS actully running during the video.
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21:36<kveroneau>It's fun to see how deep you can keep virtualizing. :D
21:36<kveroneau>I got Xen inside KVM to run Windows XP.
21:37<kveroneau>Nested Virtualization with KVM isn't well documented from what I found unfortunately, and I do plan on making a video on Nested Virtualization at one point in the future as well.
21:37<kveroneau>So be sure to subscribe if you are interested in virtualization tech on Debian.
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21:38<tuxd3v>alexrelis, I endedup with 2 options right now
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21:38<alexrelis>kveroneau: I like the idea of virtualization but I could never enjoy working in a virtual machine unless I'm at work.
21:38<tuxd3v>ffmpeg and SimplesSreenRecorder
21:38<alexrelis>It just feels so slow and clunky without hardware acceleration, even with good hardware.
21:39<alexrelis>tuxd3v: def check out obs.
21:39<kveroneau>I love virtualization and containerization. Although since I am DevOps by trade, it's a bit bias.
21:39<tuxd3v>BUT I didn't managed to get a nice quality video of my desktop with SimpleScreenRecorder, instead it was really bad..
21:39<tuxd3v>and I didn't found a way to solve it :/
21:39<tuxd3v>So I went with ffmpeg
21:39<kveroneau>I used to use `recordmydesktop` before.
21:40<tuxd3v>after stabbing me almost to death, I managed to get this:
21:40<tuxd3v>ffmpeg -video_size 1680x1011 -r 25 -f x11grab -i :0.0 -f pulse -ac 1 -i default -c:v libx264 -crf 18 -preset superfast -c:a aac -b:a 128k /home/tuxd3v/Desktop/video.$(date +"%H_%M_%S").mkv
21:40<alexrelis>kveroneau: I've found with Windows VMs, the best way to get good performance is to connect to it over RDP. Feels a lot snappier that way.
21:40<alexrelis>Especially useful if you need a quick Windows program in a pinch whether it be for school or work.
21:41<kveroneau>Ah, I wrote this to stream DOSBox to Twitch back in the day: ffmpeg -f pulse -ac 2 -i record-n-play.monitor -f pulse -ac 1 -i 5 -filter_complex amerge -ac 2 -f x11grab -r 10 -s 1024x768 -i :0.0+301,190 -c:v libx264 -pix_fmt yuv420p -preset ultrafast -g 20 -b:v 2500k -c:a libmp3lame -ar 44100 -threads 0 -bufsize 512k -f flv rtmp://live-lax.twitch.tv/app/
21:42<kveroneau>alexrelis, I manage to play Diablo 2 and other Direct2D games through libvirt using the SPICE protocol with little to no issues.
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21:43<aloo_shu>would love to see a centralized place to organize protest/legal action when school work depends on windoze
21:43<kveroneau>In fact, I have a fun video on my other YouTube channel displaying just this. 1 sec
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21:43<aloo_shu>technical workarounds do feel like the wrong answer
21:44<kveroneau>Running not 1, not 2, not even 3, but 6 KVMs running Windows XP playing a Direct2D game using libvirt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR0cTdU6gGY
21:44<kveroneau>It could also be more of a host PC issue than anything.
21:45*kveroneau hearts KVM
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21:46<kveroneau>This was also a fairly beefy game with all it's expansion packs mind you. So I was fairly impressed when I realized I could even do this.
21:47<kveroneau>Next task, try and play 6 different games of Diablo 2 all at the same time. :o
21:48<jean__>teste
21:48*kveroneau gasps and faints
21:50<kveroneau>alexrelis, I'm assuming you are running a more modern version of Windows in your VM, where RDP makes it feel more snappy?
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21:51<kveroneau>I have run this recovery version of Windows 10 in KVM with little issues: https://www.hirensbootcd.org/
21:52<kveroneau>It seems pretty snappy for me tbh
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21:52<kveroneau>I don't think they are allocating resources correctly to the VM, or otherwise configuring something incorrectly, as KVM is generally pretty good.
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22:27<tuxd3v>kveroneau, that ffmpeg comand is geting on fire, you have a lot of things there, but ofcourse you also have lots of inputs..
22:29<kveroneau>Yeah, to record desktop audio and my mics audio.
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22:38<tuxd3v>I am only recording my desktop video( not all desktop a part of it..), and also my mic input, so its a lot less complex.
22:38<tuxd3v>ho I also only have 1 audio channel..
22:39<tuxd3v>I tend to go with aac with bitrate 128kb/s its a nice quality for a mono channel..
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23:09<IpSo>I recently upgraded to Bullseye and when my system starts, dhclient is not running and after about 1 hour I lose my IP address lease and networking stops. If I manually run: "ifup eth1" dhclient is started and things seem fine after that. Any ideas why dhclient is not being started on boot?
23:11<somiaj>IpSo: care to share your interfaces file at paste.debian.net?
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23:13<IpSo>somiaj: Should be fairly straight forward: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/f9564882/
23:16<somiaj>Unsure if post-up vs up would help you with teh route commands, also route is the old standard that isn't used anymore, using ip maybe preferable there
23:16<somiaj>though this may have nothing to do with your issue
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23:16<somiaj>(for instance I don't even have route installed on my system)
23:17<somiaj>As for what could be the issue with dhclient not running, I'm unsure, do you have something like connman (which is new in bullseye) installed that could be messing with your network?
23:19<somiaj>but iproute2 has replaced net-tools for a while now
23:20<IpSo>somiaj: So checking the log more closely, it appears dhclient is getting started during ifup on boot, however I see this error in the log: SIOCADDRT: File exists ifup: failed to bring up eth1
23:20<IpSo>Even though eth1 is up and working.
23:20<somiaj>do you use a DE, if so what one?
23:21<IpSo>Nope, this is a server.
23:21<somiaj>Hmm, and connman didn't get installed somehow? I have seen a few have strange issues with this new tool being installed and messing with their network
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23:22<IpSo>Nope, don't see connman anywhere.
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23:23<somiaj>I can't think of anything else that could be causing the problem, though I think you are on to somethign with your logs. I'm unsure why that is happening
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23:30<IpSo>somiaj: Thanks, I'll keep looking
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23:31<mason>IpSo: I tend not to trust allow-hotplug. I use auto instead. I'd recommend swapping that in to see if it helps.
23:32<mason>IpSo: allow-hotplug means, according to the man page, "Interfaces marked "allow-hotplug" are brought up when udev detects them."
23:32<somiaj>I just think hotplug is missunderstood, it is about the hardware being plugged in at boot, so it is mostly useful for removable devices, such as usb dongles.
23:33<somiaj>so yea, I too use auto since I my interfaces are not hotpluggable
23:33<mason>The default IIRC gives you allow-hotplug, and it *generally* works but I've seen it glitch just often enough to default to auto everywhere.
23:33<jelly>IpSo: ifup will fail if any "up ..." command fails. If your dhcp server is (re)configured to provide that default route, it will exist and route command will fail
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23:34<somiaj>oh yea, forgot about that, the manual page even suggests doing things like up foo || true if needed
23:34<mason>FWIW, a nifty trick I use to bring up eth0 if it's plugged in, and wlan0 otherwise: https://bpa.st/4LPA
23:34<jelly>dumb workaround: try adding || true to the end of the up line. Better: verift if the explicit adding is still needed at all
23:35<jelly>and yes replace allow-hotplug ... with auto ...
23:35<IpSo>somiaj, jelly, mason: Think I figured it out. I had the up script adding the default gateway, which dhclient was also trying to do. That was causing dhclient to fail and make the system think "ifup eth1" was also failing. Removing that line from my interfaces file seemed to do the trick
23:35<mason>jelly: Oh, clever. IpSo: I think jelly might well have it with that route proviso.
23:36<mason>And... confirmation, even as I typed it.
23:36<jelly>and four lines from eth0 could be replaced with just address 10.114.168.220/26
23:36<jelly>but the old style still works
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23:37<IpSo>jelly: Yup, you nailed it while I was typing out my message. ;)
23:37<mason>IpSo: FWIW, you can tell dhclient not to accept a default route.
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23:38<IpSo>mason: I don't recall why I did that to begin with, so I doubt its needed.
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