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| 02:54 | <Cork> | is there any mirror one could still install debian 8.11 from? (need to test an upgrade before doing it in prouction) |
| 02:55 | <grawity> | deb http://archive.debian.org/debian |
| 02:55 | <Cork> | thx! |
| 02:55 | <grawity> | there's a full list at https://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
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| 02:56 | <Cork> | interesting, was looking on mirror/list before |
| 02:57 | <Cork> | thx for the help |
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| 02:59 | <Cork> | hmm it seams to have been removed from archive too... |
| 02:59 | <Cork> | (at least the package installation fails) |
| 03:00 | <somiaj> | Cork: what package are you looking for? |
| 03:00 | <grawity> | I wonder if it has something to do with the package signing keys expiring |
| 03:01 | <Cork> | somiaj: i'm looking to make a full debian 8.11 install (to then inport some live data and try a full upgrade) |
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| 03:01 | <somiaj> | I might be confused on what 'it' is, that seems to have been removed |
| 03:02 | <Cork> | somiaj: giving archive.debian.org as mirror on the installation media failes when goign to "select and install software" |
| 03:02 | * | Cork afk |
| 03:02 | <somiaj> | then as grawity pointed out, might need to update the apt key |
| 03:03 | <somiaj> | There is a way to disable the signing check I belive. |
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| 03:32 | <handsome_feng> | Hi, does anyone know how Debian generates the full list of packages? (I know Ubuntu is using Germinate) |
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| 03:42 | <jm_> | for a repository? |
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| 03:43 | <jm_> | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianRepository/Setup has notes and links |
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| 03:55 | <handsome_feng> | jm_: No, for a iso |
| 03:56 | <handsome_feng> | s/a/an/g |
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| 03:59 | <handsome_feng> | Do you know how Debian generates the iso file? and which project controls the list of package installed by default in the final iso? |
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| 04:04 | <jm_> | handsome_feng: for that I think you want to look at jigdo |
| 04:07 | <handsome_feng> | emm, it seems like a download tool |
| 04:09 | <handsome_feng> | Looks like this: https://salsa.debian.org/images-team/package-lists |
| 04:09 | <handsome_feng> | and this: https://salsa.debian.org/images-team/debian-cd |
| 04:09 | <handsome_feng> | Thanks a lot, :) |
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| 04:12 | <Rohambili> | Hey Hello People! Can i get some help or tutorial how to share ipv6 connection in debian11 ? and how to setup dhcpv6 |
| 04:12 | <Rohambili> | I think what i find (howto's) is all outdated or i dont know, but im stuck. |
| 04:12 | <Rohambili> | I can manage ipv4 connection sharing with firewalld and setup dhcp on my lan network. |
| 04:12 | <Rohambili> | BTW i have PPPOE connection |
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| 04:15 | <Anarka> | Rohambili: check https://wiki.debian.org/IPv6PrefixDelegation |
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| 04:19 | <Rohambili> | Anarka in the tutorial says : iface enp1s0 inet6 dhcp request_prefix 1 I need to change to pppoe0 or whatewer its called the pppoe connection in ip addr |
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| 04:29 | <tizef> | hi, i want to install https://salsa.debian.org/debian/yt-dlp advicable ? |
| 04:30 | <tizef> | is it advicable |
| 04:31 | <tizef> | i dont know salsa |
| 04:32 | <Rohambili> | you need to dipp in the tortillas personaly i love the guacamole salsa :D |
| 04:33 | <tizef> | i see |
| 04:33 | <Rohambili> | sorry cant miss that :D |
| 04:33 | <tizef> | and i like it |
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| 04:38 | <somiaj> | ,v yt-dlp |
| 04:38 | <judd> | Package: yt-dlp on amd64 -- bullseye-multimedia: 2021.11.10.1-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 2021.11.10.1-dmo1 |
| 04:38 | <somiaj> | tizef: looks like you'll have to build and make your own package |
| 04:40 | <tizef> | i donno this |
| 04:40 | <tizef> | i have this wget https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases/latest/download/yt-dlp -O /usr/local/bin/yt-dlp |
| 04:40 | <tizef> | not ok ? |
| 04:43 | <tizef> | i don't know much about build |
| 04:43 | <jm_> | that's up to you to decide, not us |
| 04:45 | <tizef> | also i started a new kind of dvorak, bépo... so i don't feel good at typing those days |
| 04:47 | <XileX> | Like already said, you decide. If you have user folders in your $PATH, you could use them instead. For example ~/.local/bin/ might already be there |
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| 04:50 | <tizef> | well thanks |
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| 06:13 | <tizef> | sorry but i feel very frustrated by my change of layout... |
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| 06:16 | <tizef> | so for now i don't feel confortable to learn how to build |
| 06:17 | <tizef> | i appreciate your suggestion |
| 06:18 | <tizef> | see how i type so slowly |
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| 07:20 | <Cork> | somiaj: do you know how one can do that on the install cd? /etc/apt doesn't exist |
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| 07:32 | <jm_> | try booting with «d-i debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated boolean true» |
| 07:32 | <jm_> | or probably without the d-i part |
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| 07:49 | <Cork> | jm_: didn't help sadly |
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| 07:52 | <jm_> | Cork: have you checked tty3/4 for exact failure? |
| 07:53 | <Cork> | jm_: tty2 only says "Please press Enter to active this console." |
| 07:54 | <grawity> | jm_: where does one put that setting |
| 07:54 | <Cork> | grawity: in grub |
| 07:54 | <grawity> | looks very unlike kernel cmdline options, and a bit like debconf input, but I'm not sure if you can pass that through kernel cmdline |
| 07:55 | <Cork> | it didn't complain when i ran it so... :D |
| 07:55 | <grawity> | or does the installer actually recognize that? |
| 07:55 | <jm_> | grawity: https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch05s03.html.en says it can be kernel line |
| 07:55 | <jm_> | so it should recognize it even with useless boolean true added |
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| 07:56 | <grawity> | ah so probably as "debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true" then |
| 07:56 | <jm_> | let me see if current version still says that |
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| 07:57 | <jm_> | yeah it does |
| 07:58 | <jm_> | Cork: tty2 is shell, tty3/4 is where d-i prints info |
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| 07:58 | <Cork> | ah, tty 2 and 3 was the same message to never checked 4 |
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| 07:59 | <Cork> | package cannot be authenticated |
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| 08:00 | <jm_> | sounds like that setting should work |
| 08:01 | <Cork> | trying your last line now |
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| 08:03 | <Cork> | huh... the installer skips a lot of dialogs with that entry... |
| 08:04 | <Cork> | (ex. utc as a timezone option is gone...) |
| 08:04 | <Cork> | oh, well can fix that later |
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| 08:18 | <Cork> | the seams to work a lot better, it complains of me running the wrong version of the cd so inprovements! |
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| 08:35 | <Cork> | jm_: last example with =true works |
| 08:36 | <Cork> | apparently i used the 8.10 mini cd instead of 8.11 so had to switch that. There after it worked perfectly |
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| 08:39 | <jm_> | good |
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| 08:51 | <lxsameer> | hey folks, where can I find the python3-apt repo |
| 08:53 | <themill> | lxsameer: can you expand on that? what are you looking for? |
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| 08:55 | <lxsameer> | themill: i'm looking for the a vcs repository that contains the source for python3-apt package |
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| 08:56 | <grawity> | I think `apt source python3-apt` tells you if there is one? |
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| 08:57 | <jm_> | https://packages.debian.org/ -> ind the package, click on Developer Information link, look on the left |
| 09:00 | <prahal> | my ups nut status is OL LB (low battery while charged ? ) but snmp shows me "charge" at 100% . Does it mean my battery is fully charged but still low ? That is I ought to replace the battery (I had the replace battery error a few days ago but then it vanished after powering off the UPS an hour |
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| 09:02 | <grawity> | what battery voltage does it report, and is it the expected voltage for 100% charged battery? |
| 09:02 | <prahal> | as the replace battery error could also mean "the battery have to be recharged" I am still wondering if I really need to replace the battery |
| 09:03 | <prahal> | upsc shows battery voltage at 13,7 |
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| 09:04 | <prahal> | snmp history (LibreNMS) shows me the battery voltage was 13,7 until more than a year now |
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| 09:07 | <prahal> | grawity: from what I am reading battery voltage under charge ought to always be above 13 |
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| 09:08 | <prahal> | but I cannot find out if when replace battery status is on its voltage should vary |
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| 09:19 | <prahal> | well one clue I just noticed from snmp is that remaining time goes from 30 minutes before I had the replace battery error to 2 minutes nowadays ... I clue I am good for a replace battery |
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| 09:53 | <pc> | hi |
| 09:54 | <pc> | can i ask question |
| 09:54 | <pc> | D i d u s a t r a i n & s u p pl y i s i s wi th w e a p o n s l i k e i t d i d w i t h a l q a e d a to j u st i f y c r e a t i n g w a r s > > C R E A T I V E C H O A S |
| 09:54 | <pc> | d i d c i a d i d 9 1 1 or i t j u s t l e t it h a p p en |
| 09:54 | <pc> | if a l q a e d a di d it w h y t o k i l l 9 m i l l i on i r a q i s |
| 09:54 | <pc> | ab o u t 9 m il i o n i r a q i l o s t th e i r li ves e i th e r be ca uz o f dir e ct viol ence o f u sa and becauz of si ege u sa ma de ag a in s t i r a q t h at pr eve nt ed i raqi f or m es se nt ial l i v i n g ma te rial s food m e d i c i n e and even p e n c i l s |
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| 09:57 | <Rohambili_> | O.o |
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| 09:57 | <Rohambili_> | sure |
| 09:57 | <pc> | D i d u s a t r a i n & s u p pl y i s i s wi th w e a p o n s l i k e i t d i d w i t h a l q a e d a to j u st i f y c r e a t i n g w a r s > > C R E A T I V E C H O A S |
| 09:57 | <pc> | d i d c i a d i d 9 1 1 or i t j u s t l e t it h a p p en |
| 09:57 | <pc> | if a l q a e d a di d it w h y t o k i l l 9 m i l l i on i r a q i s |
| 09:58 | <pc> | ab o u t 9 m il i o n i r a q i l o s t th e i r li ves e i th e r be ca uz o f dir e ct viol ence o f u sa and becauz of si ege u sa ma de ag a in s t i r a q t h at pr eve nt ed i raqi f or m es se nt ial l i v i n g ma te rial s food m e d i c i n e and even p e n c i l s |
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| 10:04 | <pc> | D i d u s a t r a i n & s u p pl y i s i s wi th w e a p o n s l i k e i t d i d w i t h a l q a e d a to j u st i f y c r e a t i n g w a r s > > C R E A T I V E C H O A S |
| 10:04 | <pc> | d i d c i a d i d 9 1 1 or i t j u s t l e t it h a p p en |
| 10:04 | <pc> | if a l q a e d a di d it w h y t o k i l l 9 m i l l i on i r a q i s |
| 10:04 | <pc> | ab o u t 9 m il i o n i r a q i l o s t th e i r li ves e i th e r be ca uz o f dir e ct viol ence o f u sa and becauz of si ege u sa ma de ag a in s t i r a q t h at pr eve nt ed i raqi f or m es se nt ial l i v i n g ma te rial s food m e d i c i n e and even p e n c i l s |
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| 10:32 | <pc> | D i d u s a t r a i n & s u p pl y i s i s wi th w e a p o n s l i k e i t d i d w i t h a l q a e d a to j u st i f y c r e a t i n g w a r s > > C R E A T I V E C H O A S |
| 10:32 | <pc> | d i d c i a d i d 9 1 1 or i t j u s t l e t it h a p p en |
| 10:32 | <pc> | if a l q a e d a di d it w h y t o k i l l 9 m i l l i on i r a q i s |
| 10:32 | <pc> | ab o u t 9 m il i o n i r a q i l o s t th e i r li ves e i th e r be ca uz o f dir e ct viol ence o f u sa and becauz of si ege u sa ma de ag a in s t i r a q t h at pr eve nt ed i raqi f or m es se nt ial l i v i n g ma te rial s food m e d i c i n e and even p e n c i l s |
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| 12:07 | <knghtbrd> | !ops a kick is not sufficient here |
| 12:07 | <dpkg> | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly, petn-randall, bremner: knghtbrd complains about a problem (see above) |
| 12:08 | <LoRez> | bans aren't going to work so well if they keep bouncing off different addresses. |
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| 12:11 | <knghtbrd> | I realize on the modern internet bans are basically impossible … but using this channel is basically impossible if they're gonna keep coming back and flooding it every few minutes |
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| 12:12 | <knghtbrd> | ah, it's later than I thought, maybe already resolved at the network level |
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| 12:13 | -!- | mode/#debian [-o LoRez] by LoRez |
| 12:13 | <sney> | /ban pc!smuxi@*.* would work for that one |
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| 12:13 | <sney> | but yeah it's been >1 hour, maybe they got tired. |
| 12:14 | <Noisytoot> | pc!~pc@* would also be required, as they connected using the ident '~pc' at least once |
| 12:14 | <LoRez> | Those sorts seem to never get tired. |
| 12:14 | <knghtbrd> | Probably set up a bot anyway |
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| 15:26 | <g00se> | I configured OpenVPN on a Bullseye VPS. It runs like a sick dog :( What kind of setup do I need to run a decent OpenVPN server? |
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| 17:02 | <knghtbrd> | ^^ our spammer, I think. |
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| 17:16 | <g00se> | I configured OpenVPN on a Bullseye VPS. It runs like a sick dog :( What kind of setup do I need to run a decent OpenVPN server? |
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| 17:36 | <sussudio> | no, that spammer was from egypt, so probably mirwan the impotent again. |
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| 17:41 | * | enyc meows |
| 17:42 | * | Otter sprays enyc with the water bottle |
| 17:42 | <enyc> | hrrm debian sid Thunderbird 91 finally appeared across arches |
| 17:42 | * | enyc un[ * Otter sprays enyc with the water bottle ]'s |
| 17:42 | <enyc> | my debian bullseye11 xfce has screensaver not working ;-( |
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| 17:57 | <gothenburg> | oh |
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| 18:22 | <spawacz> | is there an equivalent of sort | head -n1 to print out the smallest value without sorting the entire set? |
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| 18:28 | <g00se> | How would it know the smallest value without sorting all of it? |
| 18:28 | <sarnold> | read every line; compare against the smallest; output whatever is smallest at the end |
| 18:29 | <g00se> | Yes, you could do that. It would be less expensive |
| 18:30 | <sarnold> | this webpage is annoying but it looks like the best of the easy candidates http://www.d0wn.com/using-awk-to-display-the-min-the-max-and-the-average-of-a-list/ |
| 18:30 | <sarnold> | my own awk wasn't up to the task, I figured it'd be easy, but getting started is hard :/ |
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| 18:36 | <g00se> | min=99999999999;while read val;do [[ $val -lt $min ]] && min=$val;done<vals |
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| 19:25 | <userT> | Hello. Just here trying irssi client for first time... |
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| 19:29 | <sarnold> | userT: hi |
| 19:29 | <sarnold> | hi userT |
| 19:30 | <userT> | Oh |
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| 19:34 | <userT> | Long live the 90s |
| 19:35 | <sarnold> | :) |
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| 19:36 | <userT> | (And I'm *technically* a millenial...) |
| 19:37 | <userT> | (Or post?) |
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| 19:43 | <FLHerne> | Depends which of the incompatible definitions you use |
| 19:44 | <userT> | Incompatible between them, you mean? |
| 19:45 | <somiaj> | !chat |
| 19:45 | <dpkg> | This is not a chat channel, this is a Debian user support channel. Unless you have a Debian support question, please chat elsewhere, like #debian-offtopic or #moocows; or search for a chat topic of your choice at https://netsplit.de/channels/ |
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| 19:46 | <somiaj> | just so you know, most channels on IRC try to stick to the topic at hand, and this channel's topic is debian support. Feel free to try some of the other more social channels if that is what you are looking for. |
| 19:46 | <userT> | Ohh, the offtopic channel. Thanks, and I'm sorry. |
| 19:47 | <somiaj> | No problem, just like to point people in the right direction. |
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| 19:48 | <userT> | Can I ask here for a bit of help regarding curl command and a website? |
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| 19:48 | <sarnold> | yeah |
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| 20:02 | <userT> | I'm trying to curl this https://gitlab.com/librewolf-community/browser/appimage/-/releases , to get latest download link for the appimage. |
| 20:02 | <userT> | Problem is, within whole curl output none of the download links appear. I try "grep .AppImage", or "grep -i tar.bz2"... nothing |
| 20:02 | <userT> | Looks as if "page" showing actual download links was actually a "sub-page" different from the URL I'm trying... |
| 20:02 | <sarnold> | userT: quite a lot of gitlab pages are generated by client-side javascript |
| 20:03 | <sarnold> | userT: it's entirely possible that the links you want are similar |
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| 20:11 | <userT> | sarnold: by client-side javascript? From the browser on my side? |
| 20:14 | <sarnold> | userT: yeah |
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| 20:15 | <userT> | Ouch... |
| 20:16 | <sarnold> | userT: it's not all bad news, you can probably use the browser inspector to figure out what requests they're making, it might just pop back structured data in a json blob or something that is even easier to parse than html |
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| 20:20 | <userT> | Ouch, I don't know how to use the browser inspector... I mean, I more or less know what it is, but have never actually used it for something... |
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| 20:30 | <sarnold> | userT: with the caveat that I'm no "web guy".. try loading up https://gitlab.com/librewolf-community/browser/appimage/-/releases in firefox, hit f12, switch to the network tab, hit reload; look for the POST requests to graphql; check the request and response tabs on the right pane... |
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| 20:30 | <sarnold> | userT: you can right-click on the 'graphql' line and there's a few different Copy> commands -- copy as curl looks very useful |
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| 20:33 | <anix> | why does mozilla keep fiddling with firefox? |
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| 20:34 | <anix> | nvm, is this now the "official" debian support channel since the freenode disaster? |
| 20:35 | <raven523> | it always was even before freenode got freenoded |
| 20:35 | <alex11> | oftc has been official for years |
| 20:35 | <sney> | !debian irc |
| 20:35 | <dpkg> | The offical Debian IRC network is OFTC (irc.oftc.net). Please connect to OFTC for debian support and development communities. See https://wiki.debian.org/IRC for a list of channels. See also <oftc>, <oftc move>, and <libera>. |
| 20:35 | <sney> | since 2006 |
| 20:37 | <anix> | I know oftc has been the IRC for debian project activity for a long time, but generally the freenode |
| 20:37 | <anix> | #debian was alot busier than this oftc #debian |
| 20:38 | <Sqrt{not}> | freenode is history now. |
| 20:39 | <dvs> | Sqrt{not}: nah, it still "lives" |
| 20:40 | <cowboypenguin> | anix: I think a lot of folks moved to libera.chat's #debian channel. |
| 20:41 | <Sqrt{not}> | 737 in libera:#debian right now, 941 here |
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| 20:43 | <userT> | sarnold: uff... it gave an entire big block of code... |
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| 20:44 | <anix> | do people prefer the freenode/libera #debian because that's what their IRC client are setup for or something? |
| 20:44 | <userT> | sarnold: look, what I looked for is, trying to curl the URL where I think download link is, and use grep to filter and get it in just text format. |
| 20:44 | <sney> | people go to libera #debian because they're on libera for other reasons, generally |
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| 20:46 | <userT> | I think because the "former" Freenode was the de facto "big hub" for all/most of open source or GNU communities. |
| 20:46 | <userT> | Now they all just moved to Libera |
| 20:46 | <sney> | yes generally |
| 20:46 | <anix> | sney: yes, thats what I figured... |
| 20:46 | <sarnold> | userT: if you store that big curl blog to a file... |
| 20:46 | <sarnold> | sh t | gron | grep -e '.assets.sources.nodes[\d].url' |
| 20:49 | <userT> | "gron" command? |
| 20:50 | <Sqrt{not}> | ,i gron |
| 20:50 | <judd> | Package gron (utils, optional) in bullseye/amd64: tool to transform JSON into discrete, greppable assignments. Version: 0.6.1-1+b5; Size: 1639.0k; Installed: 5175k; Homepage: https://github.com/tomnomnom/gron |
| 20:51 | <sarnold> | I find gron a thousand times easier than jq |
| 20:51 | <sarnold> | but your milage may vary :) |
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| 20:56 | <userT> | Sorry, returned nothing... |
| 20:58 | <sarnold> | :( |
| 20:58 | <sarnold> | oh, hah, now mine returns nothing as well |
| 20:59 | <sarnold> | I wonder if they expire a token in that thing periodically |
| 20:59 | <sarnold> | which would make it much less friendly :( |
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| 21:01 | <userT> | I wonder if curl actually works better for mostly "text" webpages, and no javascript... |
| 21:03 | <sarnold> | more complicated tasks do tend to require more complicated tools |
| 21:03 | <sarnold> | https://www.postman.com/downloads/ is popular among folks who need to do web api things often |
| 21:04 | <userT> | Oh, so global issue I'm currently experimenting is having actually *expected* difficulties? |
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| 21:09 | <sarnold> | userT: yeah, I think this is just what it looks like to scrape data from services.. here's something that worked for me a few seconds ago https://termbin.com/qjwc |
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| 21:19 | <xellophane> | The only things I see related to the two items are in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it doesn't populate when I trigger the behaviour so it's not getting logged there. |
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| 21:20 | <userT> | Excuse me, what does the 't' "parameter" mean in commands? Examples: "sh t", "cat t"... |
| 21:20 | <raven523> | it depends on the commands |
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| 21:23 | <sarnold> | userT: that's just the name I gave my stupid little shell script |
| 21:23 | <sarnold> | userT: it's (a) kinda like your name (b) very short :) |
| 21:23 | <userT> | Oohhh |
| 21:23 | <userT> | Thanks sir. |
| 21:24 | <sarnold> | xellophane: jeeze that doesn't sound like fun thing to track down. xev would be my starting point, but I honestly don't know if it's remotely useful for a problem that complicated |
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| 21:26 | <xellophane> | sarnold: xev is a starting point. This last little bug is really the only thing keeping me from jumping onboard linux full time. So I'd be happy to squash it :D |
| 21:26 | * | sarnold hands over the Big Squshing Hammer |
| 21:27 | <sarnold> | xellophane: maybe libinput debug-events ? that's a few decades newer than xev |
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| 21:35 | <xellophane> | I'll try with xev first, even if it's old it'll tell me if the event is being sent and just ignored, or not sent at all. Which is something |
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| 21:50 | <xellophane> | although finding the window id is being a pain. I'll keep plinking at it. |
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| 21:50 | <sarnold> | hmm that's more advanced use of xev than I've done :) |
| 21:51 | <sarnold> | you can use xwininfo to get the window id |
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| 21:51 | <sarnold> | though the last time I used that it was to grab firefox screenshots with xwd and that didn't work :( |
| 21:51 | <sarnold> | probably a stupid X server grab broke that.. |
| 21:52 | <xellophane> | Ah, wasn't expecting the id to look like that. TIL |
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| 21:56 | <xellophane> | Ok, very much not a computer scientist, but should mouse movement be doing Keymap Notify ? |
| 21:57 | <xellophane> | And question answered, At the very least, the xwindow is seeing the events. So then the program isn't doing something with them. Ew. |
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| 22:04 | <xellophane> | Huh, I think I got it solved. Gotta love WINE weirdness |
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| 22:08 | <sarnold> | woot! |
| 22:08 | <sarnold> | what was it? |
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| 22:12 | <xellophane> | Wine version. Part of the reason I didn't know where to start unwinding that knot. Wine makes everything weird sometimes. |
| 22:13 | <sarnold> | yeah, it's a gigantic make-everything-complicated tool |
| 22:13 | <sarnold> | amazing stuff, I'm stunned it works well enough to use :) |
| 22:15 | <xellophane> | Ha! And then you start throwing things like Lutris and proton on top of it and it just gets opaque. |
| 22:15 | <xellophane> | But yea, it works, so I'm happy for now ^.^ |
| 22:16 | <xellophane> | Thank you for pointing me a xev though, it got me going. |
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| 22:21 | <sarnold> | nice nice :) |
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| 23:56 | <coc0nut> | is it best to use cups for network printers? I have a hp envy printer, cant find it natively in cups |
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