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#debian IRC Logs for 2021-11-25

---Logopened Thu Nov 25 00:00:18 2021
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00:02-!-simonpatapon is "Simon Patapon" on #debian-quebec #buddhism #debian-next #oftc #debian #bitlbee
00:04<somiaj>You need to install the packages with the hp ppd files
00:04<somiaj>printer-driver-hpcups and hplip i what I have insatlled to access my hp printers
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00:08<coc0nut>yeah, got it sorted now, was unnecessary asking actually... sry :/ :p
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00:09<coc0nut>debian works like a dream!
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00:25<freq>coc0nut: why
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04:00<perkelix>howdy! is the maintainer for firefox-esr MIA? hasn't migrated for 50 days due to failed builds, and some CVE bugs are unsorted. update for stable is also missing.
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04:03<perkelix>https://udd.debian.org/dmd/?glandium%40debian.org#todo
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04:44<Guest6749>Something weird is going on. I installed catfish and when I try to "open folder" on transmission, it doesn't open the folder containing my downloaded file, it opens catfish. Using debian stable + xfce4
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05:07<grawity>some apps claim that they're capable of opening directories which technically isn't a lie but ugh
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05:32<otisolsen70>I am in the process of upgrading an embedded device from debian 9 to debian 10. I got this error during the apt full-upgrade step: Errors were encountered while processing:
05:32<otisolsen70> qcontrol full error: https://paste.yt/p17589.html is there any way I can fix this?
05:33<otisolsen70>Doing apt full-upgrade again says 1 not fully installed or removed. I guess that is qcontrol. Any way to figure out what causes this package to fail?
05:34<otisolsen70>qcontrol Description-en: hardware control for QNAP Turbo Station devices
05:34<otisolsen70>This is a qnap nas, so I guess this package is important
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05:37<otisolsen70>I think it is actually the mkinitramfs step that fails...
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06:46<Rohambili>Hello people! Someone please tell me why dhcpd conf file is failing? What encoding need to chose when save it pls?
06:47<Anarka>its probably a missing } or ; check sudo systemctl status isc-dhcp-server.service
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06:50<Rohambili>No the old config is OK. Running. The new config when I dhcpd - t gives a lot of semicolon expected or expecting a parameter or declaration thing but trust me all is there
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06:54<spawacz>Is it possible to query GPU statistics like % usage, available memory etc only via /sys or similar, script friendly way?
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07:01<petn-randall>!bat
07:01<dpkg>[Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use https://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
07:01<petn-randall>otisolsen70: We will need the complete data, snippets are not enough to debug this. ^^^
07:02<petn-randall>otisolsen70: But from the looks of it, this isn't even Debian. So your best bet is to ask the distro that you have installed there.
07:04<spawacz>okay it's /sys/class/drm
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07:06<otisolsen70>petn-randall, what? This is exactly debian. The official installer and all. No third party sources even.
07:06<otisolsen70>petn-randall, this is debian armel
07:08<petn-randall>otisolsen70: Oh now I see it. The -marvell kernel confused me. But that's actually official, and they named it like that for whatever reason.
07:10<otisolsen70>petn-randall, anyway, I think I figured out what happened. qcontrol package triggers initramfs to be regenerated. Regenrating the initramfs has COMPRESS=xz in there. I think what happened was that xz-utils was not installed prior to qcontrol. So this is what I did. I ran apt full-upgrade again to have it finish installation of whatever it thought should be finished up. Then I ran apt reinstall qcontrol. Then it reinstalled qcontrol
07:10<otisolsen70>triggering mkinitramfs again this time without error. I *think* my system is intact now and fully upgraded to debian 10
07:11<otisolsen70>petn-randall, so I guess I should be able to reboot the device and have it boot up on the new kernel/ramfs.
07:12<otisolsen70>It did say this, though: "flash-kernel: Kernel 4.9.0-13-marvell has been removed. ; flash-kernel: A higher version (4.19.0-18-marvell) is still installed, no reflashing required" not sure if this is expected or not...
07:17*petn-randall shrugs.
07:17<petn-randall>Hard to say without seeing the output.
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07:32<otisolsen70>petn-randall, output from apt full-upgrade?
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07:32<otisolsen70>petn-randall, I recorded everything using the "script" command: script -t 2>~/upgrade-busterstep.time -a ~/upgrade-busterstep.script
07:33<otisolsen70>petn-randall, would it suffice to provide the /root/upgrade-busterstep.script file?
07:34<otisolsen70>Will upgrade-busterstep.time be needed as well?
07:36<otisolsen70>petn-randall, both files are available here: http://ifile.dk/d/6JksZcRc9IwMO2dSz7lFBH (upgrade-script.tar)
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08:09<hudo>I upgraded from buster to bullseye, use tigervncserver and on the clientside ( windows 10 ) ultravnc. Problem is that copy and paste does not work. Before upgrade it worked. Any ideas ?
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08:15<petn-randall>!bat
08:15<dpkg>[Basic Apt* Troubleshooting]. To diagnose your problem, we need ALL OF THE FOLLOWING information: 1. complete output of your apt-get/apt/aptitude run (including the command used) 2. output from "apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2..." for ALL packages mentioned ANYWHERE in the problem, and 3. "apt-cache policy". Use https://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>.
08:15<petn-randall>otisolsen70: That's the data I asked for, actually ^^^
08:16<petn-randall>otisolsen70: However, looks like it ran through fine, so you're good to go.
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08:20<otisolsen70>petn-randall, thanks.
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08:44<otisolsen70>petn-randall, just rebooted. It does not seem to boot :(
08:45<otisolsen70>I fear the device is bricked now :(
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09:15<petn-randall>Unlikely, but I guess you'll have to debut the issue now.
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09:29<jelly>the issue debuted already
09:29*jelly hides
09:30<jelly>otisolsen70, perhaps see if someone in #debian-arm has the same device/model
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09:31<otisolsen70>jelly, thanks for the tip.
09:31<otisolsen70>petn-randall, debut the issue?
09:31<jelly>debug*
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09:35<petn-randall>yes, *debug. I have fat fingers.
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09:47<scorpion2185[m]>do I need kernel headers? no GPU
09:48<somiaj>Are you wanting to compile a third party module against your kernel?
09:49<scorpion2185[m]>no
09:49<scorpion2185[m]>my notebook gto stuck again with audio loop with standard kernel
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09:50<scorpion2185[m]>maybe backport kernel?
09:50<somiaj>linux headers only help if building a third party kernel module
09:50<somiaj>backport kernels are easy enough to install to test
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09:51<scorpion2185[m]>maybe there is something wrong in the 5.10.0-9-amd64, trying 5.14
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09:55<scorpion2185[m]>beside nvidia-driver what is another case?
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09:57<somiaj>There are lots of various third party modules, some provided by debian (via dkms packages) and others you get the source from outside of debian.
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09:57<somiaj>though nvidia is the biggest one that affects many users
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15:40<Jean__>upgraded the system and now it is broken. I get gdm-launch-environment glib-gobject: g_object_unref: assertion 'g_is_object (object)' failed from systemctl status gdm. also get look up error from libpangoft2-1.0.so undefined symbol: pango_font_family_get_face
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15:42<sussudio>Jean__: you upgraded from what to what? looks like mismatching libs.
15:43<Jean__>sorry upgraded is wrong: updated unstable
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15:43<sussudio>!debian-next
15:43<dpkg>#debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on libera.chat. If you get "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only)." it means you did not read it's on irc.oftc.net. See also https://wiki.debian.org/IRC and https://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc
15:44<Jean__>thanks will check there
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16:27<retrojeff>hello #debian I am seeking some help with strace so I have this program I run but everytime it exits it will call "stty -echo" so i'm looking to use strace to find why and where its even calling "stty"
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17:22<Sqrt{not}>retrojeff, how do you run this program? how do you see that it calls "stty -echo" everytime it exits? What is the program?
17:24<retrojeff>its kinda hard to track down because there are 2 shell scripts involved
17:25<retrojeff>the programs shell script (srcds_run) and a script I use to put in some switches which I created myself (start_l4d2.sh)
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17:27<retrojeff>https://paste.debian.net/1220852/
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17:28<retrojeff>you can actually see on line 429 that I added "stty sane" so that if the srcds_run crashes it will return stty back to defaults
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17:30<retrojeff>I just find it very odd that (srcds_run) is even screwing around with "stty" when its not even called in the shell script
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17:39<some-guy>hi
17:39<some-guy>i installed tor recently but not working
17:39<some-guy>any ideas ?
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23:20<tuxd3v>for what I see we still have a release candidate package of openocd in debian stable 0.11.0-rc2, shouldn't debian ship with the final version?
23:22<themill>it was released after Bullseye shipped so without a time machine, that's a bit hard
23:22*kveroneau jumps into their delorean.
23:24*kveroneau realizes the flux capacitor is broken, so just does an apt-get install timemachine
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