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---Logopened Fri Dec 10 00:00:39 2021
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00:17<anjan>hi all. I just saw this blog post: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian How true is it?
00:17<anjan>I use firefox from the main repos
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00:32<somiaj>browsers are in a bit of a flux right now. firefox-esr needs to wait for rust to be backported to be built in stable
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00:32<somiaj>the browser is okay, there are a few CVEs out there. Many are installing firefox from other places while they wait for debian to backport the new esr, which may take a little while
00:34<somiaj>though the info in that article isn't quite right.
00:34<somiaj>It isn't the mesa issue (since firefox can be built without that support), it is the rust issue and policy of being able to build a stable package only using tools in stable
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00:37<somiaj>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=999604 -- basically the issue is to build firefox-esr v91, rustc and things rustc depends on need to also be backported, which takes a bit of work to comply with debian policy
00:37<anjan>I see... thank you somiaj
00:37<somiaj>(chromium just lacks maintainers and may just be dropped from debian)
00:37<anjan>it's a big problem and Im thinking of distro hopping as a result =(
00:37<anjan>sadly
00:39<somiaj>It isn't that hard to install firefox from upstream / snap / flatpak, browsers just suck and debian really hasn't found a good way to deal withthem within its policy
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00:48<fernie>firefox-installer package would be nice, that installs .desktop file and wrapper script that installs upstream firefox on first launch to users home. then it would be kept up-to-date with firefoxs own update mechanism. -esr could stay as is
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00:51<somiaj>Though once they get the build chain worked out, firefox-esr will be in decent shape until mozilla releases the new esr. So I once this lag passes firefox should be okay.
00:52<somiaj>I just think users who want chromium should probably just switch to google-chrome. To me it is looking like debian may just drop that package (unless some how a team of maintainers appears out of no where)
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05:00<allan_wind>Any point of switching from Network-Manager to systemd-networkd?
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05:15<tarzeau>allan_wind: you can get rid of Network-Manager
05:15<tarzeau>if you have admins+users, and as admin don't want users to mess around with it
05:17<allan_wind>for laptops, it looks like wpa_cli/wpa_gui for managing wifi. Does any of the (xfce) panel thingies work with systemd-networkd?
05:17<tarzeau>no idea i'm only using systemd-networkd with cable connections
05:18<allan_wind>for servers it looks like it is the way to go over ipupdown
05:18<tarzeau>why?
05:19<allan_wind>networkctl is a nicer interface than `ip addr`
05:20<tarzeau>are less nice than `ifconfig`
05:20<allan_wind>ifconfig is legacy, no?
05:21<tarzeau>for me it's finger muscles, and portable to some point
05:21<allan_wind>yeah, it's in my fingers too. heh
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05:51<GyrosGeier>11:21 < tarzeau> for me it's finger muscles, and portable to some point
05:51<GyrosGeier>it even works on my Amiga
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05:55<allan_wind>ifupdown to systemd-networkd was smooth :-)
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06:06<tarzeau>GyrosGeier: that must be an etherport connected via what? or do they have addon cards for ethernet? 10/100/1000mbit?
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06:15<wvdakker>allan_wind: is it possible to for example shutdown the WiFi if direct connection is made and vise versa?
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06:19<allan_wind>wvdakker: I don' t know but systemd-networkd has a Metric that allows you to prefer one interface over another if you want both up at the same time.[
06:21<kritzefitz>wvdakker: I think network-manager also doesn't shutdown wifi if you enable a cable connection, but just sets higher metrics for the cable connection.
06:22<blast007>wvdakker: some laptops (Dell Latitudes, at least) I've had have an option in the BIOS to disable WiFi when a network cable is attached.
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06:23<Marcint>hi i have some problem with samba4.13.5-Debian. Everything seems to work samba-ad-dc is active, bind9 is active but I can't connect windows10 to the domain. Server is Armbian bullseye 32bit, samba as domain controller along with BIND9_DLZ. Windows10 receives the SRV query return, but still cannot see the domain. If someone could help me, I can provide teamviewer (I don't have a public IP address)
06:23<blast007>wvdakker: for example: https://supportkb.dell.com/img/ka02R000000krvcQAA/ka02R000000krvcQAA_en_US_1.jpeg
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06:35<wvdakker>blast007: I currently use a network-manager script to switch the interfaces on/off. But want to integrate it more into the systemd-networkd config files.
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06:51<GyrosGeier>12:06 < tarzeau> GyrosGeier: that must be an etherport connected via what? or do they have addon cards for ethernet? 10/100/1000mbit?
06:51<GyrosGeier>PCMCIA NE2000
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06:53<jm_>wvdakker: as in ifplugd?
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07:02<BlackDragon42>Hello.
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07:07<drebs>bremner, thanks for exposing me to the concept of XY question (https://xyproblem.info/), i hadn't heard of it before, and in this website there's a link for "How to ask questions the smart way" that i also didn't know before.
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09:58<lupulo>hi
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10:20<lupulo>where i could ask for adopting a package?
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10:24<somiaj>lupulo: Is the package orphaned?
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10:25<lupulo>yes
10:25<somiaj>lupulo: anyways, start at mentors.debian.net for getting a package into debian (including adopting an orphaned package). There is also #debian-mentors
10:25<lupulo>ok
10:25<lupulo>thx
10:25<somiaj>but start on the website, they have the list of what you need to do to create a package, upload it to mentors, and then start the process of findign a sponsor
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10:53<gulamtcho>I have the following plan and would like to know opinions from Linux "Gurus"
10:54<gulamtcho>1. I would upgrade from "buster" to "bullseye"
10:54<gulamtcho>2. Do a snap backup
10:55<gulamtcho>3. Repartition my SSD, 430GB Linux and 70GB Win10
10:55<gulamtcho>4. Restore the snap backup to the installed Linux
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11:00<somiaj>What do you mean by snap backup? Anyways, you may find that a reinstall might be more efficent than snaping your full install (just backup your personal data)
11:00<somiaj>you can use things like this to create a backup of the package list
11:00<somiaj>!aptitude clone
11:00<dpkg>To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>, <debian clone>, <apt-clone>.
11:01<somiaj>Though I just find it usually fairly quick to install debian and get it up and running, so that just seems like extra work
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11:04<gulamtcho>I think "snapshots" was meant in the video I've seen recently
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11:05<gulamtcho>Backup Data, - like personal Date for sure, - Firefox Profile folder, - Thunderbird Profile folder.
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11:05<gulamtcho>And the other settings/drivers I would have to install again. I guess
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11:11<Sqrt{Not}>gulamtcho, whichever route you go, if you are installing windows 10 anew onto the machine, beware of fast startup
11:11<Sqrt{Not}>%fast boot
11:11<dselect>Windows fast startup is enabled by default and will interfere with a dual-boot linux installation, and risks damaging the Windows filesystems during dual boot. Disable it with the instructions here: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-windows-10-fast-startup See this section of the buster installation guide: https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch03s06.en.html#disable-fast-boot
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11:16<somiaj>okay, yea filesystem snapshots work, though here you have additional work if you need to resize them to fit the new partition. There are lots of variety of backup methods, so make sure you use the one you understand the best. I would still suggest a fresh install would be easiest in your setup (just backup user data)
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11:16<somiaj>gulamtcho: if you just backup $HOME, you will get all of your user data including firefox profiels and so on
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11:17<Sqrt{Not}>(replace "buster" with "bullseye" in those web links the robot gave you above)
11:17<somiaj>for system stuff /etc might need backup, but depending on use you may have not modified much there, and /var could have stuff, though this is more often for server side stuff like mail, crontabs, and the likes. Many desktop systems can get away with just backuping /home
11:17<kveroneau>Linux backups are so much easier when compared to a Windows one, at least I think so.
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11:20<Marcint>hi i have some problem with samba4.13.5-Debian. Everything seems to work samba-ad-dc is active, bind9 is active but I can't connect windows10 to the domain. Server is Armbian bullseye 32bit, samba as domain controller along with BIND9_DLZ. Windows10 receives the SRV query return, but still cannot see the domain. If someone could help me, I can provide teamviewer (I don't have a public IP address)
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11:54<Linux-player>hi,How can I fatch my Firefox book marks with the respective folders.Actually I am shifting from Debian 10 to Debian 11. So I want that when I login from my own account I from Firefox ESR ,I also get the folders and the book marks as well in side it .
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11:56<Sqrt{Not}>Linux-player, (#debian is the actual support channel; here is for off-topic comments, but) if you are upgrading from 10 to 11 [as opposed to a new install] all your firefox settings, etc, should just carry over I would think
11:57<Sqrt{Not}>oh! this IS #debian, heh
11:58<kveroneau>Linux-player, that's a good username. :D
11:59<Linux-player>:)
11:59<Sqrt{Not}>dpkg, buster->bullseye
11:59<dpkg>Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of <release notes> https://deb.li/39cyD . TL;DR: In /etc/apt/sources.list change "buster" to "bullseye", fix the line for security updates (see <bullseye-security>), remove stable-specific lines like buster-backports. apt update && apt upgrade --no-new-pkgs && apt full-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> cause problems with upgrades. If working over ssh, upgrade ssh first, see <bullseye ssh upgrade>.
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12:25<gulamtcho>Thanks a lot for the advices! ;)
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13:27<Soni>using raspberry pi os bullseye, what can we use to check if XML parses as XML, ideally in a way that isn't vulnerable to untrusted XML?
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13:29<Soni>there are a lot of options for XML but none of them immediately jump out as being any good
13:29<sney>!raspbian
13:29<dpkg>Raspberry Pi OS (previously called Raspbian) is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian (or #raspberrypi) on irc.libera.chat for support. https://www.raspbian.org/
13:30<imMute>Soni: I've use xmllint before to verify an XML file conforms to a schema. I believe it can do basic parsing checks too. definitely look into hardening options though, since I think the defaults aren't exactly secure
13:32<Soni>uhh we'll just use python3-defusedxml we guess
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13:59<cpach>let’s say i have a container running in Docker Engine. does anyone know how i can force this container to only use a certain network interface? (i.e. my wireguard network interface)
14:00<cpach>let's say that my debian box has a default gateway of 1.2.3.4 and wireguard at 5.5.5.5. then i want this container to only use 5.5.5.5
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14:23<cpach>i found some possible solutions: https://www.eisfunke.com/article/docker-wireguard-systemd.html https://www.pedrolamas.com/2020/11/20/how-to-connect-to-a-wireguard-vpn-server-from-a-docker-container/ https://nickb.dev/blog/routing-select-docker-containers-through-wireguard-vpn
14:23<cpach>so it seems doable at least
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15:00<mason>,v dxvk
15:00<judd>Package: dxvk on amd64 -- buster: 0.96+ds1-1; sid: 1.9.2+ds1-1
15:00<mason>Why not Bullseye? =boggle=
15:01<somiaj>most likely an rc bug
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15:01<somiaj>see bug #954539, or https://tracker.debian.org/news/1120651/dxvk-removed-from-testing/
15:01<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/954539 in src:dxvk (closed, bullseye, ftbfs, sid): «dxvk: FTBFS: ../src/util/com/com_guid.h:11:58: error: invalid declarator before ‘(’ token»; severity: serious; opened: 2020-03-22; last modified: 2021-01-06.
15:02<bremner>because it needs wind-development
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15:02<somiaj>Note it also isn't in bookworm either, so they haven't dealt with this bug yet. I personally had no issue building and installing dxvk .dll files in my WINEPREFIX on my bullseye system.
15:03<mason>bremner: wind-development doesn't ring a bell and it's not coming up immediately - what is it, praytell?
15:03<bremner>all I know is that it won't be in future stable releases
15:03<mason>A package of some sort then?
15:03<bremner>yes
15:03<somiaj>https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=982159
15:03<judd>Bug https://bugs.debian.org/982159 in dxvk (open): «dxvk: Dependency on development version of WINE might not be justified»; severity: serious; opened: 2021-02-07; last modified: 2021-07-22.
15:03<mason>hrm, ty both
15:04<somiaj>the tracker gave me the bug of why it was removed, but not the one of why it won't make it back in. I think bremner meant wine not wind (I was confused)
15:04<mason>Oh, that'd make sense.
15:04<bremner>uh, yeah. sorry
15:04<mason>kk
15:04<mason>I was prepared to believe that wind-development was a thing.
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15:04<somiaj>anyways, dxvk is probably best to be dealt with locally, since it is something you install in a WINEPREFIX and not part of the wine binary itself.
15:05<nmschulte>Wondering, can someone link me to literature that clarifies how Docker's new subscription model impacts Docker the open source software I use from Debian's main repository?
15:05<somiaj>building the .dll locally and copying them into prefixes you want it is fairly painless and just works if you have all the vulcan packages intalled. Works just fine here with nvidia-nonfree
15:05<mason>Oh, I thought it was host-side there.
15:05<somiaj>the dx12 -> vulkan one is a bit more complicated, but luckly I haven't had to deal with this yet since I don't have any dx12 only games
15:06<mason>kk - I was pondering installing World of Warcraft again just to risk re-addiction and the notion of needing dxvk came up, but I used to roll my own Wine anyway so if this is Wine-side I can just do that again.
15:06<somiaj>but dxvk, just clone from git, build the .dll, copy over, I found it quite easy once I tracked down the process (that was the hardest part was figuring out what I needed to do)
15:06<mason>Ah, yeah, Vulkan is the driver.
15:06<somiaj>yea, dxvk gives you near native fps, without it I got like 20-30, with it I get about 100
15:06<somiaj>yup, and this is just a .dll to talk to vulkan, which is all installable in bullseye
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15:07<mason>Alright, cool. Thank you.
15:07<somiaj>I also use wine-staging from winehq and not the debian wine packages, hence I can see why this won't be put into debian, though maybe better documentation about it could be given (as I said took me a while to track down the issue)
15:07<mason>I haven't committed to the idea yet but I wanted to explore how feasible it'd be.
15:07<somiaj>I mean track down how to correctly install it
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15:08<mason>I kind of want to get an account on the wiki so I can start documenting things. If I tackle it and end up publishing anything useful I'll loop you in.
15:08<somiaj>nmschulte: Have you looked in the BTS -- mailing lists might be useful, though unsure if there is any docker specific one.
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15:14<spawacz>I have a service listening on 0:0:0:0:5555 (ipv4 only). When i start nc -6 -v 5555 i get error that the port is in use, but in ss -tln i see many processes listening on both v4 and v6
15:15<spawacz>why is nc reporting a problem? there is no [::]:5555 in that list
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15:18<spawacz>huh but i can run 2 nc instances, one for vs one for v6. Strange. Maybe it's the program itself causing problems
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15:23<nmschulte>somiaj: I suppose it's helpful to see that the docker.io debian package links to mobyproject.org as the homepage -- I think as far as that package/software goes, it's unaffected by the Docker inc. changes.
15:23<nmschulte>nothing in BTS, trolling list archive when I find it
15:26<somiaj>yea, it isn't uncommon that they add paid support on top of open software, and this doesn't affect the software end, but I don't know any details about this particular change
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15:43<JordiGH>How do you upgrade a Postgres 11 cluster to Postgres 13 if you're using postgis?
15:43<JordiGH>Running pg_upgradecluster I get:
15:43<JordiGH>pg_dump: error: query failed: ERROR: could not access file "$libdir/postgis-2.5": No such file or directory
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15:46<earendel>JordiGH: try ls "$libdir/postgis-2.5" and check if it exists and is accessible
15:47<JordiGH>It doesn't exist. So I guess I should install it.
15:48<earendel>eventually $libdir is not set properly?
15:50<JordiGH>No, I simply don't have a Postgis 2.5 installation.
15:50<JordiGH>It doesn't exist in Debian.
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15:52<earendel>well, then.
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15:54<jmcnaught>,v postgresql-11-postgis-2.5
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15:54<judd>Package: postgresql-11-postgis-2.5 on amd64 -- buster: 2.5.1+dfsg-1
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15:58<guifipedro_>hi, what's the appropriate irc channel to discuss debian preseed ?
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16:00<somiaj>!debian irc
16:00<dpkg>The offical Debian IRC network is OFTC (irc.oftc.net). Please connect to OFTC for debian support and development communities. See https://wiki.debian.org/IRC for a list of channels. See also <oftc>, <oftc move>, and <libera>.
16:00<JordiGH>jmcnaught: Right, that doesn't help me in bullseye.
16:01<somiaj>That wiki lists various channels, there are two for the debian installer, they might be able to help (here is also okay, but preseed knowledge isn't that common)
16:01<guifipedro_>thanks somiaj
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16:02<jmcnaught>JordiGH: the postgresql packages from buster are not still installed? Or you just never had that package installed?
16:03<JordiGH>The packages aren't installed anymore. I'm on bullseye.
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16:04<jmcnaught>JordiGH: upgrading from buster to bullseye would leave the buster postgresql packages installed so that you can migrate the cluster before removing them
16:04<JordiGH>jmccroha1: But apparently not the postgis package?
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16:07<jmcnaught>JordiGH: you could check the apt logs on that system to see if/when/how that package was removed
16:08<somiaj>you might be able to just install the package, complete the migration then remove it too
16:08<JordiGH>"Commandline: apt remove mysql-client postgresql-11-postgis-2.5 postgresql-11-postgis-2.5-scripts python-mysql.connector python3-mysql.connector"
16:08<JordiGH>crap did I do that
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16:49<kzo>what's up all.
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16:55<asus>Hello, I'm on Debian 11 bullseye 32bit because ive been told its light enough for my old netbook and ive been enjoying it except that for some reason the netbook's integrated speakers are not detected/supported. I get audio perfectly connecting headphones or external speakers but the built-in ones dont work at all, and ive tried reinstalling alsa and stuff like that but it didnt fix it. Is there anything i could do or is this
16:55<asus>netbook just not well supported?
16:56<asus>Forgot to say its an Asus EeePC X101CH
16:57<sussudio>does it beep on ctrl-g in console
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17:00<asus>Pressing Ctrl+G in a console? no beep at all
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17:00<somiaj>maybe pavucontrol since pulse is more likely being used as a front end to alsa.
17:00<sussudio>sounds like the speaker may not be connected.
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17:01<sussudio>possibly disabled in bios setup
17:02<asus>bios is very simple on this, i dont recall seeing something like that, the only change i have from standards settings is showing diagnostics. Ill look up pavucontrol for now
17:02<sussudio>i googled (you probably didn't) and seems like people have had this problem before.
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17:03<sussudio>https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=264417
17:04<sussudio>why do things always have to be a pain in the ass with audio/video
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17:09<kzo>sussudio: drivers. Drivers will always be a problem. 100%
17:10<kzo>I just got debian setup on my old laptop too. I really should look at rebuilding out my razer too.
17:10<kzo>but. I just do not want to go through that headache.
17:11<sussudio>i got sound in a browser to work once... silent ever after.
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17:14<Habbie>can confirm, audio is also a pain on my thinkpad
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17:42<earendel>asus: there is no connection / configuration listing that speakers in the volume mixer?
17:43<earendel>i don't remember ever having installed drivers for speakers
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18:17<burrows>can I find out how long my hard drive (/dev/sdc) has been idle for from the command line?
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18:26<Habbie>burrows, sounds like smartctl
18:27<aloo_shu>should be possible without smart
18:27<aloo_shu>pme hdparm-fu perhaps
18:28<aloo_shu>some*
18:29<burrows>I'm playing around with hdparm, but can't find the idle time
18:31<aloo_shu>smart is drive self testing, but power management frontends have been able to spin down drives after a configurable time, so it must be possible to query non-smart drives, or possibly the kernel knows about it, by tracking io - but I don't know the exact answer, try sys- and proc tree, pernaps
18:31<aloo_shu>h
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18:34<Martha>hello! is there any news on the Apache Log4j 2?
18:34<Martha>CVE-2021-44228?
18:34<sussudio>apparently there are still people out there using java.
18:35<Martha>yep, need to know if Debian is affected?
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18:36<bremner>check security.debian.org
18:36<sussudio>,v log4j1.2-java
18:36<judd>No package named 'log4j1.2-java' was found in amd64.
18:36<bremner>I think I saw a bug fly by
18:36<burrows>thanks, aloo_shu, I'll figure it out
18:37<Martha>it's not listed yet on the security page. I think the news went out about 8 hours ago.
18:37<sney>https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2021-44228
18:39<Martha>perfect, thanks!
18:39<Martha>ah, so Debian is affected. Thanks for the info!
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18:40<sney>as you noted, it's only a few hours old. someone in the linked bug thread is investigating a fix
18:43<Martha>I'll sign up for bug updates. Thanks again for the quick response!
18:45<sney>np
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19:12<user_>test
19:13<user_>test received?
19:13<somiaj>!test
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19:23<sussudio>oh look, it's marwan.
19:25<Sqrt{Not}>user_, yes, you are here
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19:29<user_>how can i check the ip that im using here?
19:29<user_>the ip that this server can see from this client
19:30<sussudio>user_: you're in egypt.
19:30<user_>tell the ip
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19:31<user_>or pm it to me
19:31<sussudio>starts with 41. i'm not PMing you. go away, marwan.
19:31<user_>ok, are you a mod?
19:32<user_>or is there any command for me to see it personally?
19:32<bremner>user_: /whoami
19:32<bremner>but this is not "how to use IRC", this is debian support
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19:33<user_>i know
19:33<bremner>#oftc can direct you to more general help
19:33<user_>.whoami
19:33<user_>im using hexchat
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19:34<sney>https://hexchat.rtfd.org
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19:34<sussudio>bremner: the only reason he comes in here is to ask people how to do illegal hacking.
19:34<sussudio>stealing credit card info, sick shit like that.
19:34<user_>me?
19:34<bremner>sussudio: fine, I'll deal with that when it happens
19:34<sussudio>yes.
19:35<bremner>sussudio: otherwise, maybe just ignore the drama?
19:35<user_>this is the first time that im using this name
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19:39<asus>earendel: no its as if they dont exist, i checked with some command and they also didnt show up i think. sussudio im gonna try that linuxmint solution and report back! i didnt find that on my search results, i guess i didnt look for the right thing... i just find it really odd, never had an audio issue like this before
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19:43<earendel>onboard speakers are probably crap anyways. its a feature to save your ears from awful sound.
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19:43<mistermaster>test
19:43<mistermaster>test2
19:44<earendel>fuck off.
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19:44<mistermaster>man...
19:44<bremner>earendel: take it easy.
19:44<earendel>lol. i knew it.
19:44<schubisu>hehe
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19:45<mistermaster>siuuu
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19:45<earendel>whoever the operators were who failed to pick followup operators. they failed epicly.
19:45<asus>sussudio the solution you linked fixed it perfectly! thanks for your google skills :P gonna write it down in case i need it again
19:46<sussudio>asus: things like these should really fix themselves
19:46<asus>yeah i really never had this issue before but i guess this netbook is kinda wierd, being one of the first and all
19:47<asus>i was trying different distros live to see if anyone worked :c
19:47<sussudio>i guess someone would need to file a bug report or something
19:47<sussudio>haven't looked if anyone did.
19:47<asus>would do it if i knew how
19:47<earendel>what.
19:47<mistermaster>bye sussudio
19:47<earendel>siusiu
19:48<mistermaster>quit
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19:48<sussudio>comes here almost every week on the same day, same time... "look, you don't know me, i'm wearing a different mask".
19:49<earendel>look up the word: persona
19:49<user_>who?
19:49<earendel>homework.
19:49*sussudio sighs
19:49<user_>mistermaster
19:49<user_>i have been out of here for a month i think
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19:52<earendel>on twitter you had possibilities you can only dream of here.
19:53<earendel>i know you will miss me. :)
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19:54<user_>also, sussudio, dont suppose that every tor users are the same, if there is a faggot that comes everyday here at the same time, and then ignore a user for using tor, is pretty retarded coming from you
19:54<user_>thanks to bremner
19:55<user_>for answering my question
19:55<user_>bye
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20:41<Guest8181>why does w3m accept torsocks and links2 no?
20:42<Guest8181>tor isolation i mean
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20:47<Guest8181>sussudio: can you teach me your 1337 haxor skeels?
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21:22<knghtbrd>lol sussudio how DO you recognize him anyway?
21:23<sussudio>knghtbrd: <sussudio> comes here almost every week on the same day, same time... "look, you don't know me, i'm wearing a different mask".
21:23<knghtbrd>timing-based
21:24<knghtbrd>literally that?
21:24<sussudio>pretty much. and using tor/proxy.
21:24<knghtbrd>just wait for the right day of the week for some fool asking sketchy questions using a proxy or tor?
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21:25<sussudio>also, it's not that there's many other people active here at the time.
21:25<knghtbrd>the LOL of it is … it almost always him, so I guess that's reliable.
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21:32<aloo_shu>How To Become A Troll Magnet, in 3 easy steps, with illustrations
21:33<dvs>O_O
21:33<aloo_shu>>.>
21:33<aloo_shu><.<
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