| --- | Log | opened Sat Dec 11 00:00:40 2021 |
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| 00:50 | <earendel> | trolling is not a thing. |
| 00:54 | <earendel> | sometimes it's fun to me to play you into the corner and expose the lack of any substance |
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| 00:55 | <earendel> | but regardless how entertaining it is, its a waste of time. and mostly its less convenient than do some balls scratching. |
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| 01:01 | <freq> | earendel: `how |
| 01:01 | <freq> | we learn a lot in #nerds |
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| 01:14 | <Trube> | hello I recently bought a System 76 laptop (oryx pro) and installed Debian. everything works except I have no sound. |
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| 01:14 | <Trube> | Alsa mixer sees two cards HDA intel PCH and HDA Nvidia |
| 01:15 | <Trube> | but there is no sound |
| 01:16 | <Trube> | any ideas? |
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| 01:26 | <sussudio> | Trube: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/679143 |
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| 01:29 | <Trube> | sussudio, the Ubuntu solution will work for debian? |
| 01:29 | <sussudio> | as far as i know. |
| 01:30 | <sussudio> | this solution doesn't look too difficult. |
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| 01:37 | <earendel> | "what was the magic bullet?" -- "Literally as simple as restarting two or three times." |
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| 02:04 | <knghtbrd> | 😮 Oh, not that kind … |
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| 04:05 | <bentham> | ,v liblog4j1.2-java |
| 04:05 | <judd> | Package: liblog4j1.2-java on amd64 -- stretch: 1.2.17-7+deb9u1; stretch-proposed-updates: 1.2.17-7+deb9u1; stretch-security: 1.2.17-7+deb9u1; buster: 1.2.17-8+deb10u1; buster-security: 1.2.17-8+deb10u1; bookworm: 1.2.17-10; bullseye: 1.2.17-10; sid: 1.2.17-10 |
| 04:05 | <bentham> | ,v liblog-log4perl-perl |
| 04:05 | <judd> | Package: liblog-log4perl-perl on amd64 -- stretch: 1.48-1+deb9u1; buster: 1.49-1; bookworm: 1.54-1; bullseye: 1.54-1; sid: 1.54-1 |
| 04:06 | <bentham> | Are these packages affected by the log4j vulnerability described here: https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/security.html |
| 04:07 | <bentham> | ,v liblog4j2-java |
| 04:07 | <judd> | Package: liblog4j2-java on amd64 -- stretch: 2.7-2; buster: 2.11.1-2; bookworm: 2.13.3-1; bullseye: 2.13.3-1; sid: 2.13.3-1 |
| 04:08 | <bentham> | also this ^ |
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| 04:15 | * | Otter unbends bent ham |
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| 04:17 | <bentham> | better than being told to get bent :) |
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| 09:17 | <BCMM> | what's the correct boot parameter to boot without X these days? (got to fix the graphics driver on this laptop) |
| 09:18 | <BCMM> | the display pretty much just stops working after X has loaded, and ctrl-alt-f1 isn't helping. think it's a nouveau problem |
| 09:20 | <spawacz> | nomodeset? |
| 09:21 | <BCMM> | does that stop the DM from loading? |
| 09:21 | <spawacz> | if you want systemd to boot to tty and not graphical interface, use systemctl set-default multi-user.target |
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| 09:22 | <BCMM> | oh, i've just booted with init=/bin/sh and it's *still* doing the same thing. i think i was wrong about it happening when X loads |
| 09:22 | <BCMM> | i just assumed because the debian installer worked fine |
| 09:22 | <spawacz> | nomodeset makes the graphics drivers not be loaded at boot (I'm pretty sure) |
| 09:22 | <BCMM> | i'll try that |
| 09:23 | <BCMM> | (didn't think it would be this hard to get it to behave just long enough to install proprietary nvidia) |
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| 09:24 | <BCMM> | ah there we go! X wasn't relevant, but nomodeset fixed it! |
| 09:24 | <BCMM> | thanks spawacz! |
| 09:25 | <spawacz> | !win BCMM |
| 09:25 | <dpkg> | Congratulations, BCMM! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
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| 09:31 | <BCMM> | ah. nvidia-detect says "Your card is only supported by the 340 legacy drivers series, which is only available up to buster" |
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| 09:31 | <BCMM> | don't suppose there's any reasonable way to get that driver working on a modern system? |
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| 09:34 | <BCMM> | i'm guessing it's not in stable because it won't work on the current kernel? |
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| 09:42 | <knghtbrd> | what card? |
| 09:42 | * | knghtbrd linuses nvidia |
| 09:44 | <BCMM> | knghtbrd: GT218M |
| 09:44 | <knghtbrd> | ah |
| 09:44 | <knghtbrd> | yeah, not surprised |
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| 09:44 | <knghtbrd> | Disgusted, but not surprised |
| 09:45 | <knghtbrd> | And laptop so you can't just swap in something that isn't nvidia shitware. |
| 09:45 | <BCMM> | knghtbrd: not surprised at what? it being abandoned by nvidia, or nouveau not working to well with it? |
| 09:46 | <knghtbrd> | Abandoned by nvidia, nvidia refusing to allow nouveau people to have info to properly support it, all of the above |
| 09:46 | <BCMM> | but yeah, this is an *awful* laptop (SiS chipset, hell yeah!) that i'm basically just putting a light installation on so it can be sort of a spare |
| 09:47 | <BCMM> | it's actually running somewhat OK with nomodeset an X. i imagine it will get a bit funny if i try to use a browser though... |
| 09:49 | <knghtbrd> | what broke with nouveau? |
| 09:50 | <BCMM> | knghtbrd: screen freezes early in boot, with a red rectangle in the corner |
| 09:50 | <BCMM> | i assume when the initramfs loads the module and it tries to enter kms, but i'm guessing there |
| 09:51 | <knghtbrd> | ugh |
| 09:51 | * | knghtbrd stabs nvidia for being a disgusting company |
| 09:51 | <BCMM> | sometimes it loads a few more characters than just the red square |
| 09:51 | <BCMM> | after a few minutes |
| 09:51 | <BCMM> | i don't think i understand what nomodeset actually does... |
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| 09:52 | <knghtbrd> | does your laptop have an Intel GPU to fall back on? |
| 09:52 | <BCMM> | i have been told that X just falls back to the generic vesa driver with nomodeset, but this feels like it has working hardware accel |
| 09:52 | <BCMM> | knghtbrd: lol no it's from way before optimus |
| 09:53 | <knghtbrd> | that might be to your advantage, I'm not sure. |
| 09:53 | <knghtbrd> | (there were switching mechanisms before optimus) |
| 09:53 | <BCMM> | lspci is literally all SiS or nvidia. cursed hardware! |
| 09:53 | <knghtbrd> | yeah |
| 09:54 | <knghtbrd> | the only other suggestion I might offer is to hit up the arch wiki … arch has ONE major asset, and the wiki is it. |
| 09:55 | <BCMM> | i'm starting to think that it's actually just fine with nomodeset |
| 09:55 | <knghtbrd> | if it works for you … |
| 09:55 | <BCMM> | but every website ever keeps telling me that that's supposed to be an interim solution to help you install a graphics driver |
| 09:55 | <BCMM> | *why* is this working? |
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| 09:57 | <BCMM> | i have transparency, opengl (i think), scrolling and video in Firefox aren't janky |
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| 09:58 | <knghtbrd> | Check your logs … what driver is it using? |
| 09:59 | <knghtbrd> | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 09:59 | <BCMM> | knghtbrd: gotta admit i'm not 100% sure how to tell which driver is actually in use, when it's loaded and tried several |
| 10:00 | <knghtbrd> | pipe a copy to nc termbin.com 9999 |
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| 10:03 | <BCMM> | (just getting nc installed) |
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| 10:05 | <BCMM> | knghtbrd: sorry about the delay http://termbin.com/pvov |
| 10:06 | <knghtbrd> | it loaded nouveau, looks like |
| 10:06 | <knghtbrd> | huh. Why? |
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| 10:09 | <BCMM> | wish i'd made a note of what native resolution is supposed to be |
| 10:10 | <BCMM> | can't tell if fonts are fuzzy because it's at the wrong resolution or if it's simply a really really low-density display |
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| 10:12 | <bentham> | Probably the former, if it is not a CRT |
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| 10:22 | <Karlton> | VESA has fixed resolution modes, it may not have one that fits your screen |
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| 10:31 | <Karlton> | it doesn't have 1366x768 for example |
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| 10:35 | <spawacz> | BCMM: I have tried doing the same, for PC with old nvidia card. Even thought it's listed on the site as one suitable with 340 driver, during install the system changed it's mind |
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| 10:36 | <BCMM> | spawacz: the same as in running with nomodeset? |
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| 10:36 | <spawacz> | no, right now i have nouveau |
| 10:37 | <spawacz> | but the performance is roughly 30% lower than on windoze, so i decided to give nvidia drivers on linux a shot, but without much success |
| 10:38 | <spawacz> | i have other nvidia card (probably broken) that just hang my boot in random stage, around 1.5 sec, when booted without nomodeset |
| 10:38 | <spawacz> | i keep it (along with other amd card) hoping one day i find time and will to learn basic repair/diagnostics :) |
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| 13:00 | <Xplain> | Is there any information when firefox-esr will be updated to 91.* in stable? |
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| 13:01 | <petn-randall> | Xplain: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=999604 |
| 13:01 | <petn-randall> | Xplain: Last I've heard that a newer rust was needed to be built and uploaded to stable for it to work, so I'm not sure how much more it's going to be delayed. |
| 13:01 | <earendel> | hi. i think i messed up the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications .. now all desktop icons and panel items don't work :/ .. can i somehow restore them? |
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| 13:01 | <petn-randall> | earendel: Restore them from backups? |
| 13:02 | <petn-randall> | earendel: What did you do to break them? |
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| 13:03 | <earendel> | from the debian cd.. or be reinstalling something.. i dont have a backup of the directory itself. ... well i have overwritten the symbolic links with invalid ones or sth. |
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| 13:03 | <earendel> | or maybe you could upload it for me or so. or explain where they should link to. |
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| 13:04 | <petn-randall> | earendel: I have no idea, as those files depend on what you have installed in the first place. |
| 13:04 | <earendel> | it was symbolic links in that directory right? first of all. |
| 13:04 | <earendel> | lxde |
| 13:04 | <petn-randall> | earendel: One option is to reinstall all packages that are affected. |
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| 13:04 | <earendel> | no way :( |
| 13:05 | <petn-randall> | earendel: Again, every desktop package will install files there, which are probably a few thousand in the repo. |
| 13:05 | <earendel> | can u check where the desktop files are located (the link targets) .. then i could restore them manually. |
| 13:05 | <petn-randall> | So it's very unlikely for anyone to have exactly the same packages installed on the system as you. |
| 13:05 | <petn-randall> | earendel: No, just reinstall them. |
| 13:05 | <earendel> | no. |
| 13:06 | <earendel> | ok. so the desktop files are installed somewhere with the rest of the package individually? |
| 13:07 | <petn-randall> | earendel: Why not reinstall them? That's your only option right now. |
| 13:07 | <Xplain> | petn-randall: thanks |
| 13:07 | <earendel> | how do you create a custom .desktop file. as when you do, at some point there will be a link to it in that directory. |
| 13:08 | <petn-randall> | earendel: custom desktop files go in your homedir, let me check. |
| 13:08 | <earendel> | petn-randall: thats none of your business. please ignore my messages. thank. |
| 13:08 | <earendel> | anybody else could help me? |
| 13:08 | <earendel> | where do you create the desktop files. or what tool do you use to create them. |
| 13:08 | <petn-randall> | earendel: what? |
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| 13:09 | <scorpion2185[m]> | earendel: just make a file text |
| 13:09 | <earendel> | i bet its like with the service files from systemd. you compose what is active by creating symlinks from what directory tree to another. |
| 13:10 | <petn-randall> | earendel: So your custom desktop files go to ~/.local/share/applications/*.desktop. |
| 13:10 | <mason> | earendel: petn-randall's advice is the most reasonable thing to do. Anything else will be more convoluted and fragile. |
| 13:10 | <earendel> | aha. ok.. and then .. do i run reconfigure or sth? |
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| 13:11 | <earendel> | how do i get those into the menu for instance? is that somehow automated or scripted? |
| 13:11 | <petn-randall> | earendel: `apt install --reinstall <your list of packages>` will reinstall the packages your broke, repairing the files. Use `dpkg -S /usr/share/applications` to find all packages installed that have files installed there. |
| 13:12 | <earendel> | erm. what is wrong with you buddy. |
| 13:12 | <petn-randall> | earendel: They should appear the moment you add them there. Some DEs might need logging out and back in to make them show up. |
| 13:12 | <earendel> | i know. |
| 13:12 | <earendel> | its not an option. |
| 13:12 | <earendel> | now. |
| 13:12 | <petn-randall> | earendel: Cool, then stop asking. |
| 13:13 | <petn-randall> | earendel: In that case it's unfixable. |
| 13:13 | <petn-randall> | !next |
| 13:13 | <dpkg> | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 13:13 | <earendel> | stop answering. |
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| 13:14 | <mason> | I mean, that ends up in the same place. How is just an implementation detail. |
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| 13:36 | <Rami_> | Hello, I have some trouble and I hope someone can help me. |
| 13:37 | <mason> | !ask |
| 13:37 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:37 | <Rami_> | Sorry, I'll try again in one messege |
| 13:39 | <Rami_> | I've updated (using apt-get dist-upgrade) to Debian 11 stable. After the update everyhing seems to work fine. However, after few hours of work the external keyboard and mouse (connected using one USB cable) are not detected anymore. This issue is fixed by restart but is repeated. This issue is not repeated on a Win machine. I can manage my way around CLI and log files but I just couldn't understand from google where to start. I would re |
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| 13:40 | <petn-randall> | Rami_: Your message is cut off at "I would re". |
| 13:41 | <petn-randall> | Rami_: I'd start looking into /var/log/messages and kern.log to see if your keyboard gets unplugged or something. Also, does unplugging and plugging back in make it work again? |
| 13:41 | <Rami_> | I would really appriciate your help |
| 13:41 | <mason> | Rami_: You might see clues about why they stopped working if you look at dmesg. I'd start there, and if needed you can move on to things like "udevadm monitor" or similar. |
| 13:41 | <Rami_> | @petn-randall typically not, but today I tried a third USB port and it helped. But this is a new issue |
| 13:42 | <mason> | Rami_: Could be a physical error, although if it's associated with an upgrade I'd not assume a hardware issue to start. |
| 13:42 | <petn-randall> | Rami_: Sure, I'm not saying unplugging/replugging is a solution, just a way to debug the issue. |
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| 13:48 | <Rami_> | OK starting to look at dmesg. |
| 13:49 | <Rami_> | I think the following is the point where shit hits the fan |
| 13:49 | <Rami_> | [Dec11 20:08] usb 3-2.1: reset full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd [Dec11 20:09] usb 3-2: USB disconnect, device number 2 [ +0.000008] usb 3-2.1: USB disconnect, device number 3 [Dec11 20:11] INFO: task kworker/2:0:4840 blocked for more than 120 seconds. [ +0.000014] Tainted: G OE 5.10.0-9-amd64 #1 Debian 5.10.70-1 [ +0.000004] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. [ |
| 13:51 | <Rami_> | I don't know hot to paste it all here.. |
| 13:51 | <Rami_> | But I think it starts here |
| 13:51 | <petn-randall> | !paste |
| 13:51 | <dpkg> | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use for text: https://paste.debian.net | pics/screenshots: https://imgbb.com/ or https://imgur.com/upload | large files up to 100MB (think tar.gz): https://wikisend.com | Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <termbin>. |
| 13:52 | <petn-randall> | Rami_: Use the paste site above and also post the lines before and after that message to provide context. |
| 13:52 | <mason> | Rami_: Another option if you don't have easy access to copy/paste is "dmesg | tail | nc termbin.com 9999" or similar |
| 13:52 | <petn-randall> | !pastebinit |
| 13:52 | <dpkg> | A command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg 2>&1 | pastebinit". For a list of pastebin sites do "pastebinit -l". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 13:52 | <mason> | Oh, neat. |
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| 13:55 | <Rami_> | thanks @petn-randall. here is the link to the log |
| 13:55 | <Rami_> | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/87a51484 |
| 13:57 | <Rami_> | I think it went down at the following line: usb 3-2.1: reset full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd |
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| 13:58 | <mason> | Rami_: Are you plugging straight into your box's USB ports or using an external hub, out of curiosity? |
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| 13:59 | <mason> | Rami_: Anyway, seeing that, I would be inclined to start suspecting a USB device. Next time it's in a cleanly working state you might capture "lsusb" output so you can use it as a guide to what's dropping and when. |
| 14:00 | <mason> | In fact, lsusb | pastebinit might be useful now regardless. |
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| 14:01 | <Rami_> | I'm using my screen as a hub (I connect keyboard and mouse to the screen, and the screen has usb output to the laptop) |
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| 14:03 | <Rami_> | lsusb is kinda stuck. or it takes a lot of time. Is this common? BTW, now I connected to a different port and it seems to work for now. But I think the issue is not USB port related since after reboot, it detects both keyboard and mouse |
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| 14:08 | <petn-randall> | Rami_: Does the USB hub disconnect if the screen goes in standby? |
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| 14:13 | <Rami_> | @petn-randall: It stops working in the middle of work. While i'm trying to input text it just stops. no warning |
| 14:13 | <mason> | Rami_: I'd try getting the screen out of the path if you can, to compare. |
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| 14:14 | <mason> | Rami_: lsusb being stuck is probably the same thing taking out your keyboard/mouse |
| 14:14 | <Rami_> | I understand why would like that, but it does work on windows machine flowlessly and I actually connected it now to a different port and it works. So I think we sould rule out software/firmware issues before hardware |
| 14:16 | <mason> | Sure, either way. It's all a matter of eliminating possibilities. |
| 14:16 | <mason> | It's conceivable the new kernel's less good about some situation. I see that here, where a couple CD drives error out in Bullseye where they didn't in Buster. |
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| 14:20 | <Rami_> | I'm not proficient enough with GNU/Linux (I want to be though). So I don't know almost anything about the kernal (other than it's suppose to be awesome). |
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| 14:20 | <Rami_> | But I'd like to help and submit a proper bug report, with your help |
| 14:20 | <mason> | Rami_: Well, you can rule out the monitor if you bypass it. |
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| 14:21 | <mason> | Ruling it out will reduce the number of things it can be and you want to do that as much as you can. Rule out the monitor, rule out other USB devices, etc. |
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| 14:25 | <mason> | Rami_: Related, let's say you unplug the monitor and now it all works. This suggests a conflict with the monitor, and now that can be diagnosed. |
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| 14:27 | <Rami_> | Yea, the problem is that I cannot reproduce the bug while the keyboard works.. I need to wait again for it to stop working.. |
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| 14:27 | <mason> | Set up without the monitor in line. If it goes for a day and there's no problem, that's data. |
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| 14:28 | <Rami_> | OK.. Wil do that. I'll connect again later this week. Thank you. |
| 14:28 | <Rami_> | But how do you explain the lsusb issue? |
| 14:28 | <Rami_> | I disconnected the USB from the monitor and it still not working |
| 14:29 | <mason> | I imagine you'll see a related timeout in dmesh. |
| 14:29 | <mason> | dmesg |
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| 14:34 | <Rami_> | I copied the dmesg output to the following link (related time staps with latest timeout) |
| 14:34 | <Rami_> | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/53b5eb62 |
| 14:34 | <Rami_> | BTW, thanks everyone for your help!! |
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| 14:36 | <petn-randall> | Rami_: lsusb being stuck usually means some hardware/firmware bug. Do you have current firmware installed on your Debian? |
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| 14:37 | <petn-randall> | Rami_: Meaning firmware-linux-nonfree, or firmware-linux, the meta-package. |
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| 14:44 | <Rami_> | How do I check for that? |
| 14:45 | <Rami_> | I mean, I have the following line at sources.list |
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| 14:47 | <Rami_> | deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main non-free contrib |
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| 14:59 | <petn-randall> | Rami_: What happens if you run `apt install firmware-linux`? |
| 15:01 | <Rami_> | it suggests installing new packages |
| 15:01 | <Rami_> | for some reason I cannot copy from the terminal |
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| 15:04 | <Rami_> | after installing firmware-linux lsusb is still stuck. I can trying reboot. But if firmware-linux is mandatory (I didn't install it on Debian 10), why isn't it included in the Released version? |
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| 15:09 | <sussudio> | Rami_: it is in the non-free version. |
| 15:09 | <sussudio> | ,i firmware-linux |
| 15:09 | <judd> | Package firmware-linux (non-free/metapackages, optional) in bullseye/amd64: Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel (metapackage). Version: 20210315-3; Size: 23.0k; Installed: 31k |
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| 15:16 | <Sqrt{Not}> | Rami_, you said "it suggests installing new packages" --- did you allow it to install them? |
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| 15:27 | <Rami_> | Yes I did |
| 15:28 | <Rami_> | Well, I just pressed Y. so I think I did |
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| 15:41 | <areyouloco> | debian 11 doesnt boot for me on acer aspire one laptop |
| 15:41 | <sussudio> | don't do this areyouloco. stay in 1 chat. |
| 15:42 | <areyouloco> | but its different server |
| 15:42 | <areyouloco> | different users |
| 15:42 | <areyouloco> | but ok |
| 15:42 | <sussudio> | mostly the same users. |
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| 15:49 | <petn-randall> | !crosspost |
| 15:49 | <dpkg> | Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>. |
| 15:49 | <petn-randall> | areyouloco: ^ |
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| 16:02 | <areyouloco> | petn-randall: i know i know sorry didnt know |
| 16:03 | <areyouloco> | i thought of its irc on different server |
| 16:03 | <areyouloco> | then there might be different people that know how to help |
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| 16:04 | <mason> | areyouloco: A workaround: "I posted this on Freebera as well, but here's a summary in case anyone here and not there has an idea: https:/some/paste/thing" |
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| 16:05 | <areyouloco> | its debian and debian channel but on different servers |
| 16:05 | <areyouloco> | nvm |
| 16:06 | <mason> | areyouloco: Since I didn't see what you posted elsewhere, I'd be up for a summary. Boot issue. UEFI I assume...? Does GRUB load? Does the kernel load? Where's the process die? |
| 16:06 | <petn-randall> | areyouloco: It's irrelevant if it's different people or not, read the factoid again. |
| 16:07 | <petn-randall> | mason: Let's not debug this issue on two channels in parrallel, this won't get us anywhere. |
| 16:08 | <mason> | petn-randall: Is it still going on elsewhere then? If it stalls out there it can come here and I'll help. |
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| 16:08 | <petn-randall> | mason: Yes, on #debian on irc.libera.chat. |
| 16:08 | <mason> | kk |
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| 16:20 | <popsmoke> | when i run iwconfig i see "security mode:open" eventhough I do have a wifi password. what does that mean? |
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| 16:28 | <petn-randall> | popsmoke: What OS and version are you running? |
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| 16:29 | <popsmoke> | debian buster |
| 16:30 | <petn-randall> | popsmoke: Can you paste the complete output of iwconfig? https://paste.debian.net |
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| 16:33 | <popsmoke> | petn-randall: https://paste.debian.net/1223063/ |
| 16:34 | <petn-randall> | popsmoke: According to the man page it just means: "The security mode may be open or restricted, and its meaning depends on the card used. With most cards, in open mode no authentication is used and the card may also accept non-encrypted sessions, [...]" |
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| 16:34 | <petn-randall> | popsmoke: So it just means that your card is technically possible to connect to open wifi hotspots, not that the current one is necessarily open. |
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| 16:37 | <popsmoke> | petn-randall: but ANY card can conect to open wifi hotspots. no ? |
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| 16:37 | <petn-randall> | popsmoke: According to the man page, no. |
| 16:38 | <popsmoke> | petn-randall: anyways, so u think i need to worry not ? |
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| 17:30 | <JordiGH> | Is there a package for speech recognition? I talk to it, words appear? |
| 17:30 | <cbthree> | I had on my laptop an SSD drive which suddenly died on me. i removed the dead SSD drive from my laptop and connected it (via usb) to another laptop which runs Debian 11. However, the other laptop does not recognise let alone mount it. How can i recover the files i have on the dead SDD using my working Debian laptop? |
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| 17:31 | <JordiGH> | What is the nature of the death? |
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| 17:31 | <cbthree> | JordiGH, are you talking to me? |
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| 17:32 | <petn-randall> | cbthree: I'd say if it's dead the data is gone. |
| 17:32 | <JordiGH> | Yeah. |
| 17:33 | <cbthree> | JordiGH, have you performed data recovery from a dead SSD drive using GNU/Linux? |
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| 17:35 | <JordiGH> | I mean, sort of, depending how dead it is. |
| 17:36 | <Sqrt{Not}> | cbthree, was the SSD connected via usb in the original laptop, before it died? |
| 17:36 | <cbthree> | How dead is dead? |
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| 17:37 | <cbthree> | Sqrt{Not}, no it was not. |
| 17:37 | <JordiGH> | Well, that's what I'm asking. Losing the MBR is about as bad as it's been for me. |
| 17:37 | <Sqrt{Not}> | cbthree, how was it connected in the original laptop? what were the symptoms of "suddenly dies" |
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| 17:40 | <cbthree> | The dead SDD was the laptop's drive before it suddenly died. |
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| 17:41 | <cbthree> | The SSD just stopped working without giving any signs that it was malfunctioning. |
| 17:43 | <cbthree> | Are there any GUI programs that i can use on my working Debian laptop to recover the date on the dead SSD? |
| 17:43 | <cbthree> | the data |
| 17:44 | <cbthree> | Has anyone here performed data recovery from a dead SSD drive using GNU/Linux on another laptop? |
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| 17:48 | <petn-randall> | cbthree: If it's physically dead, there's not much you can do about it. |
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| 17:49 | <petn-randall> | cbthree: Do you see any events in /var/log/kern.log when you plug in the drive to the usb adapter? |
| 17:50 | <cbthree> | i do not see any events in /var/log/kern.log when i plug in the drive to the usb adapter |
| 17:53 | <petn-randall> | cbthree: Then throw away the drive and restore from backups. |
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| 17:58 | <sussudio> | cbthree: what brand was the ssd |
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| 18:04 | <cbthree> | SanDisk SDSSDA-480g |
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| 18:07 | <Sqrt{Not}> | cbthree, so was it connected via SATA cabling in the original laptop? |
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| 18:08 | <cbthree> | yes |
| 18:08 | <cbthree> | it was the laptop's drive |
| 18:08 | * | sussudio makes a note not to buy sandisk ssd's |
| 18:09 | <sussudio> | WD ssd's are sandisk too, right |
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| 18:10 | <sussudio> | cbthree: how long have you been using this thing, there's reports of them dying going back to 2016 |
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| 18:15 | <Sqrt{Not}> | cbthree, if you don't have backups (you know you should!) I would suggest putting it back in a real SATA connection, in the original machine or wherever, and trying to interrogate it with smartctl |
| 18:16 | <Sqrt{Not}> | and look carefully in the logs for any information regarding the thing in that machine |
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| 18:18 | <cbthree> | <Sqrt{Not}> the original machine does not even detect the SSD |
| 18:21 | <cbthree> | i mean, the original machine does not detect the SSD anymore |
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| 18:32 | <Sqrt{Not}> | cbthree, how do you know? are you looking at logs in that machine? |
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| 18:32 | <cbthree> | what logs? The drive is not even recognised |
| 18:33 | <Sqrt{Not}> | how do you know it is not recognised????? are you running anything on the machine, or you are just saying you cannot make it boot from that drive? |
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| 19:39 | <Sqrt{Not}> | cbthree, I'm not trying to diss you; I'm trying to get around to suggesting you try running a debian live-system from usb to see if you find any signs of life on that SSD |
| 19:40 | <Sqrt{Not}> | I mean, run a live system on the actual machine where the SSD used to live. |
| 19:40 | <sussudio> | since it comes from a different machine, i would inspect the ssd connectors for damage, and at least clean them with some alcohol. |
| 19:41 | <cbthree> | Sqrt{Not}, sussudio : Have *you* performed data recovery from a dead SSD drive using GNU/Linux? |
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| 19:42 | <sussudio> | cbthree: you can't if it's dead. |
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| 19:43 | <sussudio> | i guess it doesn't have a led on there to see if it's actually getting power |
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| 19:44 | <cbthree> | Sqrt{Not}, sussudio : Have *you* performed data recovery from a dead SSD drive using GNU/Linux? |
| 19:45 | <sussudio> | *plonk* |
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| 19:58 | <aloo_shu> | cbthree: what Sqrt{Not} is trying to convey to you, is that there is a tiny chance that it's not dead, that the tests done are not ruling out that it doesn't want to boot for some reason, so he's suggesting you start a live session to rule out that. that's also assuming that the usb setup is for some reason not the same as the powered sata |
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| 20:01 | <aloo_shu> | if a disk is so dead that it's firmware doesn't talk to the host anymore, then software is not enough to attempt rescue, and no, I haven't done that |
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| 20:07 | <userT> | In the process of learning mount command, I tried mounting a vfat partition with type iso9660. However seemingly it still did it, no status code different from 0. Shouldn't that actually fail? |
| 20:08 | <somiaj> | It seems iso9660 has a minimial set of compatibility with fat |
| 20:09 | <somiaj> | Maybe that compadability allows it to still mount. I haven't tried, but not finding to much info on this |
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| 20:11 | <userT> | And with other file systems? |
| 20:12 | <somiaj> | Not quite sure, what you describe seems strange (I haven't tested it), was trying to research why it is possible |
| 20:12 | <somiaj> | Is the data on that file system important? You could play around and see if reads fail, though writes should fail since iso9660 is read only |
| 20:13 | <Sqrt{Not}> | userT, the debian installer/live-system images are iso9660 images which mimic a fat file system when viewed on removable media |
| 20:13 | <somiaj> | One thing I see is the mount options of vfat and iso9660 are the same to the linux kernel. |
| 20:13 | <userT> | No, I was just doing some tests to try to learn |
| 20:13 | <userT> | But that looked very strange for me at least |
| 20:13 | <somiaj> | This is not something I'm aware of, but if it isn't erroring out, it must be possible for some reason. |
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| 20:21 | <userT> | What does normally happen if trying to mount a "block" (/dev/sda, sdb, sdc...) instead of a partition (sdc1, sda2, sdb3...)? |
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| 20:22 | <somiaj> | It really depends, sometimes people write file systems directly to the block device and avoid the file system, though this is unstandard |
| 20:23 | <somiaj> | It should just error out because it can't identify the filesystem header info |
| 20:23 | <somiaj> | arg avoid the partition table, though I don't see it that often, it is possible |
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| 20:23 | <somiaj> | (had some cheap usb drives come this way) |
| 20:24 | <userT> | So *normally* it should just error? |
| 20:24 | <somiaj> | yea, if there is a partition table it should just error out |
| 20:25 | <userT> | Yes, I meant with normal USB sticks, for example. I think they normally ship with partition tables... |
| 20:26 | <userT> | Even if more than 1 partition |
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| 20:26 | <somiaj> | yea, in most cases mount should just error out if you try to mount a device (or file with loop device) that doesn't have a file system on it that matches the one you tell it to use |
| 20:31 | <userT> | Ok, thanks. |
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| 21:43 | <r4fkramer> | Please try to install stacer.deb via dpkg -i but it gives this error - I am not yet familiar with tweaking PATH variables. |
| 21:43 | <r4fkramer> | How can I solve the installation of this .deb binary package on buster 10.11 ? https://paste.debian.net/1223087/ |
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| 21:47 | <imMute> | r4fkramer: did you use "su" and not "su -" to switch to root? |
| 21:47 | <r4fkramer> | yes, inMute, what is the relation between this action and the issue I need to fix ? |
| 21:48 | <imMute> | you have to use "su -" so that $PATH gets updated. |
| 21:48 | <r4fkramer> | Fine, but I really don't know how to proceed in this case. Let me try it here.... |
| 21:48 | <imMute> | use "su -" to switch to root and then try the dpkg -i command again |
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| 21:49 | <r4fkramer> | dpkg: error: cannot access archive 'stacer_1.1.0_amd64.deb': No such file or directory |
| 21:49 | <dpkg> | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, r4fkramer |
| 21:50 | <imMute> | ignore the bot. that means that your shell is in a different directory from where the .deb file is |
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| 21:51 | <r4fkramer> | yes, inMute, but I really don't know how to proceed, sorry. |
| 21:52 | <imMute> | you can also do 'dpkg -i /path/to/dir/stacer_1.1.0_amd64.deb' replace it with the actual path to the file |
| 21:52 | <r4fkramer> | Should I have to use any flag to specify better the installer to install this package in other directory ? |
| 21:53 | <r4fkramer> | I'm not so sure if I understood it well. I have to replace... ? |
| 21:53 | <somiaj> | this is just how shells work |
| 21:53 | <imMute> | What is the full path to the .deb file? |
| 21:53 | <somiaj> | files names are either done via full path or realative path (to your current working directory). If you don't start with a /, they use a relative path |
| 21:54 | <r4fkramer> | dpkg -i /path/to/dir/stacer_1.1.0_amd64.deb -> dpkg: error: cannot access archive '/path/to/dir/stacer_1.1.0_amd64.deb': No such file or directory |
| 21:54 | * | dpkg installs /path/to/dir/stacer_1.1.0_amd64.deb -> dpkg: error: cannot access archive '/path/to/dir/stacer_1.1.0_amd64.deb': No such file or directory into r4fkramer's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 21:54 | <somiaj> | don't use /path/to/dir/ use the full path to where that file is actually located on your system. |
| 21:55 | <somiaj> | well I'm assuming you just typed /path/to/dir/ vs replacing it with the path to where the file is actually located on your system |
| 21:55 | <r4fkramer> | whoever manages this bot is really a horse of stupidity.... It overcomes my ignorance of debian.. |
| 21:56 | <Gombye> | r4fkramer: dpkg -i /home/r4fkramer/Downloads/stacer_1.1.0_amd64.deb |
| 21:56 | <r4fkramer> | yes, somiaj, quite tired here and I simply typed (copied) command with correct syntax inMute has passed me. |
| 21:57 | <somiaj> | r4fkramer: it is designed to respond whenever a line starts with 'dpkg', as such if just responds nonsense if you don't send it a valid factoid |
| 21:57 | <r4fkramer> | Sorry, now it is working here (and, unfortunatelly, I knew about it before) |
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| 21:57 | <somiaj> | r4fkramer: Yea, we just cannot know where that file is located, Gombye had a reasonable guess, but we don't know your system that well |
| 21:57 | <Gombye> | somiaj: It was not a guess, but based on <https://paste.debian.net/1223087/>. |
| 21:58 | <somiaj> | ahh I missed that (: |
| 21:58 | <r4fkramer> | That's /home/r4fkramer/Downloads, the same path I use, for example, when I copy some .ISO that is located in Downloads directory using dd command. |
| 21:58 | <r4fkramer> | Thank you for attention and Great Support, Gombye, inMute and somiaj :) |
| 21:59 | <r4fkramer> | I simply forgot to specify: /home/r4fkramer/Downloads/stacer.... |
| 22:00 | <r4fkramer> | Really a naive stupid action (forgetting such elementary things...) |
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| 22:03 | <Gombye> | r4fkramer: When you use 'su -' instead of just 'su', the directory changes to root's home directory (or the home directory of whatever user you specified). Otherwise, you would not have needed to specify the full path. |
| 22:03 | <r4fkramer> | yes Gombye, in fact - now it's working here. |
| 22:04 | <r4fkramer> | Bye the way, I simply know it - but couldn't remember now - some terrible effects of harmful alzheimer. |
| 22:04 | <r4fkramer> | Anyway, it's working now. Thank you very much again, Gombye :) |
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| 22:17 | <sussudio> | just thinking that there's also the possibility that twatty didn't put the ssd in all the way onto the laptop connector... it needs a little push. |
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| 22:17 | <sussudio> | but anyway, he didn't want to listen and spammed instead. too bad. |
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| 22:18 | <somiaj> | the internet reflex is to fight. |
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| 22:20 | <sussudio> | not that it's the purpose of this channel to fix other people's problems that have nothing to do with debian... just because something is dead and want to install debian on it, doesn't make it on-topic. |
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| 22:29 | <Sqrt{Not}> | it's also a variant of XY problem -- too zoomed in how to do one small detail of an ill conceived plan, and resistant to suggestions to zoom back out a little |
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