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04:56 | <Gwalenn> | Hi, on Buster, Okular doesn't print all the pdf like i see on the screen. One area is missing on the paper. |
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05:13 | <Wulf> | Gwalenn: Hello. Possibly the pdf says "don't print this!" |
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05:15 | <webmind> | \o/ finally got everything working fot autobooting my debian chroot on my phone :) |
05:16 | <Wulf> | webmind: nice |
05:16 | <Wulf> | Gwalenn: Perhaps qpdf can fix it for you |
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05:38 | <rkta> | Can I somehow export all bug reports for a given package from bugs.debian.org? |
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05:40 | <sussudio> | rkta: they're already on the same page, aren't they. |
05:41 | <rkta> | sussudio: I want the maintainer mbox, should have mentioned that. |
05:42 | <sussudio> | rkta: are you planning to fix all the bugs or something |
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05:44 | <rkta> | sussudio: I can sort emails, flag them, delete them. I can't do that in my browser. And no, not all of them. |
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05:48 | <sussudio> | rkta: i guess you would have to write a parser to fish them out and ask if it's okay to do this automatically, if you're doing big batches. |
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05:51 | <sussudio> | rkta: apt-listbugs may be useful |
05:51 | <nizamani> | ok |
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05:55 | <nizamani> | hey guys what is this chating app i am new here |
05:55 | <petn-randall> | !irc |
05:55 | <dpkg> | IRC is Internet Relay Chat, the means to provide #debian to its patrons. Debian IRC channels are listed at http://wiki.debian.org/IRC . Please read http://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc . Ask me about <irc tutorial> and <faq>. See also <debstats> and <irclog>. |
05:56 | <petn-randall> | nizamani: It's IRC, and I assume you're testing Kali? |
05:57 | <enyc> | rkta: eurgh I have emails to move off hermes system hrrmph I think I shall start that earlier actually =) |
05:57 | <nizamani> | nope i am using MX linux 19 |
05:57 | <enyc> | moving emails is always fun |
05:57 | <enyc> | nizamani: MX 19.x is based upon Debian buster 10.x |
05:57 | <rkta> | sussudio: good idea, that's easier to parse than the website |
05:57 | <enyc> | nizamani: MX21 is now very good now and usable for new installs, but MX specific matters are not a matter for debian channels |
05:58 | <Wulf> | nizamani: "HexChat 2.12.4" but buster got 2.14.2 already. Are you sure? |
05:58 | <Wulf> | looks more like debian stretch; please upgrade ;) |
05:58 | <nizamani> | ok i'll upgrade it to newer version |
05:59 | <nizamani> | thanks |
05:59 | <enyc> | nizamani: be aware MX19->20 updating is a fiddle |
05:59 | <enyc> | netravnen: err 21 err whatever |
06:00 | <enyc> | uerrr |
06:01 | <nizamani> | sorry guys it seems i have mx 18 and there is no way to upgrade 18 to 21 |
06:01 | <enyc> | nizamani: https://mxlinux.org/wiki/upgrading-from-mx-19-to-mx-21-without-reinstalling/ can be done but have full backup and be prepared to do new install |
06:01 | <nizamani> | so i have to clean install again |
06:01 | <enyc> | nizamani: that would make sense for stretch |
06:01 | <enyc> | nizamani: good idea anyhow |
06:01 | <enyc> | nizamani: again, this is a debian channel not MX .... |
06:02 | <enyc> | nizamani: irc.libera.chat #mxlinux is a small but sometimes active MX channel |
06:02 | <nizamani> | i am just try this app have not used before |
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06:10 | <nizamani_> | guys what should i must learn to be a debian user, i have already tried debian Buster and have good experiance with that as a casual user. but if there is any guide line or list which should be learned as a debian user plz send. |
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06:45 | <ova> | Hello! I am spoofing a MAC address on my router running Debian Bullseye at home so that it works for my ISP. But the router's disk is encrypted and I decrypt it every boot with cryptsetup from initramfs. I'd like to do this remotely and I installed dropbear sshd in initramfs and configured networking via kernel IP=xxx line in initramfs.conf. But how do I set the mac address? Can I use |
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06:45 | <ova> | ifconfig in local-top for example? |
06:46 | <ova> | Or is there a more elegant setting? |
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06:50 | <spawacz> | systemd-networkd can do that |
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06:50 | <spawacz> | man systemd.link |
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06:52 | <petn-randall> | ova: As soon as you want to do all that in initramfs, it gets tricky. Maybe cloud-initramfs-dyn-netconf can do that? |
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06:54 | <ova> | Is systemd-networkd already setup that soon? Is it in the init binary and can I just use /etc/network/interfaces from the initramfs? |
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06:59 | <ova> | looking at https://git.launchpad.net/cloud-initramfs-tools/tree/dyn-netconf/scripts/init-premount/cloud-initramfs-dyn-netconf and the other script I can't find any settings for the MAC address, but noticed the path /sys/class/net/$nic/address |
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06:59 | <ova> | Can I write into this file directly to set the address? |
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07:03 | <grawity> | .link files are not processed by networkd – they're processed by udev |
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07:10 | <ova> | What about ifconfig? Is it present in initramfs? |
07:12 | <koollman> | I'm not sure it's present. ip would be present, at least |
07:13 | <ova> | Oh, great, I'll try changing MAC address with ip in scripts. |
07:14 | <koollman> | ip link set eth0 address 00:11:22:33:44:55 |
07:14 | <ova> | But it has to be down when I'm changing it, right? |
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07:15 | <ova> | And there's "dev" before NIC name. |
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07:16 | <koollman> | ova: it doesn't need to be down |
07:16 | <ova> | Cool, thanks |
07:16 | <koollman> | and I did test the command before sending it :) |
07:17 | <ova> | nice |
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07:43 | <ova> | Huh... Why does update-initramfs actually RUN scripts in local-top? |
07:44 | <ova> | Shouldn't those scripts run at actual boot time? |
07:44 | <petn-randall> | ova: There are scripts that are run during initramfs build, too. I guess you found them. :) |
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07:45 | <ova> | Heh, I misunderstood the meaning of /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts ... |
07:45 | <ova> | Where can I set commands that are ran at boot time? |
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08:09 | <ova> | RTFM ... initramfs-tools(8) says it all ... all scripts are ALSO called when creating initramfs with argv[1] "prereqs" |
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08:42 | <damjan> | is there a way to find out packages that depend on, say, libphp8.1-embed from https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/ or a similar web index? (not asking about installed packages on my system) |
08:43 | <sussudio> | apt-cache rdepends packagename |
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08:45 | <damjan> | yeah, I'm not asking about installed packages on my system |
08:46 | <sussudio> | did you even try it |
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08:49 | <damjan> | ah. ok. thanks sussudio. (the list of rdepends matched the installed list, so I got misdirected) |
08:50 | <sussudio> | k. |
08:52 | <ova> | Can I run compiled binaries from initramfs scripts instead of actual shell scripts? |
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08:55 | <Wulf> | ova: don't see why not |
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08:57 | <ova> | update-initramfs runs a check for syntax errors on binaries AFAICS and the binary did not run ... weird, I'll try again |
08:58 | <damjan> | ova: depending how you add the binary, make sure the libraries are included too |
08:59 | <ova> | yeah this might be the problem, but I did not see any "file not found" errors. I'll compile it statically and check. |
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09:03 | <ova> | weird. It still doesn't run /: |
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09:08 | <spawacz> | why do you need to set the mac in initramfs? |
09:08 | <spawacz> | can't you wait for systemd/udev to do it? |
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09:10 | <dat> | I have some problem with my openssh-client from my debian desktop. |
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09:14 | <blast007> | dat: are you going to give any further details? |
09:14 | <ova> | spawacz: because I need to be able to decrypt the disk remotely |
09:15 | <ova> | so I have to setup the network for dropbear |
09:15 | <maxzor> | why is apt/dpkg not providing debug versions of libraries? |
09:15 | <dat> | I have bugs like this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/1955985 |
09:15 | <ova> | actually I found a possible bug. initramfs scripts do not output stderr to the screen. Why is that? |
09:16 | <blast007> | maxzor: are you talking about not seeing -dbgsym packages? |
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09:16 | <blast007> | !dbg |
09:16 | <dpkg> | Packages that end in '*-dbgsym' contain the symbols required for debugging executables and libraries. The dbgsym packages are automatically generated packages that are in a separate archive; add a line like "deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-debug/ bullseye-debug main" to your sources.list. See also https://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace |
09:17 | <maxzor> | blast007, as far as I understood, If the compiler has optimized the library, even having debug symbols won't allow to step through library code |
09:17 | <blast007> | damjan: which version of Debian are you running? |
09:17 | <blast007> | oops, sorry damjan, I guess dat left and I missed that |
09:18 | <maxzor> | I remember few years ago, I tried to get the Qt debug symbol apt packages... but in the end I recompiled Qt in debug mode myself |
09:19 | <blast007> | did you try? |
09:19 | <spawacz> | Well the mac address is set in initramfs. I just checked that |
09:19 | <maxzor> | I think I did ':) |
09:19 | <spawacz> | try booting linux to initramfs and type "ip a", the hw mac is there |
09:19 | <blast007> | no, I mean NOW, not years ago |
09:20 | <spawacz> | ova: what do you see when you are in initramfs and type "ip a" ? |
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09:22 | <ova> | spawacz: IP configurarion from initramfs.conf |
09:22 | <ova> | but with the default mac address |
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09:30 | <dathckr> | Thanks for all, I solved my openssh-client problem. |
09:31 | <maxzor> | It is still a research topic? https://download.vusec.net/papers/debug2_asplos21.pdf |
09:34 | <spawacz> | check /etc/initramfs.conf |
09:34 | <spawacz> | there is section for network devices |
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09:36 | <dathckr> | How to prevent program from autoremove? |
09:37 | <amacater_> | OK - why is it being autoremoved? |
09:40 | <dathckr> | I updated wine-staging and the apt want to remove wine-staging dependencie |
09:40 | <dathckr> | *dependencies* |
09:41 | <dathckr> | Autoremove them cause wine uninstalled. |
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09:41 | <dathckr> | not cause , sorry my bad grammar. |
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09:47 | <damjan> | shouldn't `php-config7.4 --libs` command also return the `-lphp8.1` flag? |
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09:53 | <blast007> | why would 7.4 return 8.1? |
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10:03 | <elperson> | Hello I am trying to install debian from a flash USB w/ ventoy but during the installation I got this error "The detected media cannot be used for installation" |
10:04 | <koollman> | elperson: most likely you used some tool to write to the usb device that messed with the installation |
10:05 | <elperson> | So I guess ventoy won't do |
10:05 | <koollman> | I don't know it |
10:05 | <amacater_> | elperson: Do you have a Linux system available to you - if so, use dd :) |
10:06 | <elperson> | Alright |
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10:07 | <koollman> | maybe ventoy has a 'raw' mode which wouldn't touch the bootloader |
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10:07 | <Sqrt{Not}> | elperson, you might be able to install from a debian-live image on ventoy, if you use the "install debian" choice inside the running live system --- i.e. the calamares installer |
10:07 | <Sqrt{Not}> | !venetoy |
10:07 | <Sqrt{Not}> | !ventoy |
10:07 | <dpkg> | Ventoy is an open-source utility to facilitate booting .iso images from USB storage. It installs grub to the USB, and then uses grub to select among multiple .iso images on the USB. https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventoy |
10:10 | <amacater_> | If you're on a Windows machine, you can use Rufus in one of its modes |
10:11 | <amacater_> | Given my experience, I wouldn't suggest installing with Debian live if you can avoid it |
10:11 | <damjan> | blast007: haha :D, mistyped (was looking at both versions). I meant. should it not return the -lphp<version> |
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10:25 | <elperson> | Alright I flahsed the usb with dd and now its failing to read data off of it (got disconnected not sure if this was sent) |
10:26 | <amacater_> | Dying USB - try blatting it with gparted? |
10:27 | <blast007> | what was the dd command line? |
10:28 | <mbianchi> | Others things to be aware: (1) You use dd with the whole device and not a partition, and (2) do a 'sync' afterwards to guarantee that all data is flushed. |
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10:29 | <elperson> | i did dd bs=4M if=debianiso of=/dev/sdb && sync |
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10:31 | <elperson> | And im almost 100% sure that the usb is fine because the arch install went fine on it |
10:31 | <amacater_> | dd if=debianiso of=/dev/sdb obs=4M oflag=sync status=progress |
10:35 | <mbianchi> | also, maybe check file integrety. More info at https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s07.en.html |
10:36 | <mbianchi> | integrity* |
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10:36 | <amacater_> | elperson: The line I've given you is basically the one I've used for a couple of hundred installs doing Debian testing for releases |
10:38 | <sussudio> | flash drives will die for no particular reason |
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10:43 | <Sqrt{Not}> | elperson, what is the exact filename you are working with? |
10:45 | <cowboypenguin> | Are the obs and oflag arguments strictly necessary? I've been using dd without them for a couple of years with no incident. What do they do? |
10:47 | <amacater_> | obs is much the same as bs - it just specifies writing the output in 4M chunks. oflag=sync is really very necessary as it syncs as it's going along. status=progress is very nice to have |
10:48 | <cowboypenguin> | What is it syncing? Pardon my ignorance. |
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10:48 | <amacater_> | Forcing the cache to actually write to the medium: if you don't, then you think "Aha, it's copied" and remove the stick while lots of stuff is still streaming to it from cache |
10:49 | <damjan> | hah, even has a wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sync_(Unix) :D |
10:49 | <cowboypenguin> | So when the command finishes and the terminal gives you another prompt, it isn't finished yet? Wow, guess I've just been lucky or slow. |
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10:50 | <amacater_> | cowboypenguin - not necessarily, especially if there's a bunch of stuff held in cache or the USB stick is slow on say a USB1 interface |
10:51 | <amacater_> | I do like older USB sticks that have a real flashing LED on them or whatever so you can _SEE_ that it's finished |
10:53 | <cowboypenguin> | amacater_: Ahh, all of my flash drives I use for ISOs do that. That's why I've never been burned. |
10:53 | <Sqrt{Not}> | %blinkenlights |
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10:55 | <elperson> | Hmmm I cant seem to find the integrity thing in the main menu of the installer |
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10:56 | <elperson> | nvm |
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10:57 | <elperson> | Gonna try a different usb then |
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11:02 | <elperson> | Okay so I tried a different usb drive and that didn't work either |
11:02 | <elperson> | I suppose that it may be something with the iso itself maybe |
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11:05 | <amacater_> | elperson: Redownload the .iso - do the sha256sums trick to check its checksums |
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11:06 | <blast007> | or do the checksums before you redownload to see if that's even an issue |
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11:07 | <Sqrt{Not}> | elperson, what is the exact filename you are working with? |
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11:09 | <Sqrt{Not}> | elperson, what is the exact filename you are working with? and how did you download it? |
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11:15 | <elperson> | Okay so I redownloaded it with wget |
11:15 | <elperson> | Apparently mozzila downloaded it wrong or sth |
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11:16 | <joeDoe> | I'm having trouble with gajim. When I try to connect to a ejabberd server I just set up, gajim refuses to accept the certificate of the server even when I say the cert is OK. The dialogue saying the cert is bad just comes back. I tried to join the channel gajim@conference.gajim.org for help, but trying to set that account tells me "host-unkown". I am able to ping it just fine from |
11:16 | <joeDoe> | the same machine, so it appears to be unknown to gajim only. What am I doing wrong? |
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11:20 | <bremner> | joeDoe: did you try a different client? |
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11:22 | <joeDoe> | bremner: I tried with Conversations on android. I can connect to the server (I think I'm connected), but when I try to send a test message, it hangs on "fetching keys..." |
11:23 | <joeDoe> | I never tried to connect to the gajim channel, though. I'll try... |
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11:26 | <joeDoe> | Conversations tells me "the server is not responsible for this domain" when I try to connect to gajim@conference.gajim.org |
11:26 | <joeDoe> | let me try to find another client for debian.. |
11:26 | <joeDoe> | Any suggestions? |
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11:27 | <joeDoe> | giving dino-im a shot |
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11:30 | <joeDoe> | bremner: dino-im, when I try to connect to the account on my server, says the server can't prove who it is because the cert is not trusted by the os. There is no option to override and accept the self-signed cert |
11:32 | <joeDoe> | for gajim@conference.gajim.org, dino-im says it could not connect to conference.gajim.org |
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11:32 | <elperson> | Okay so I installed it and its now stuck on starting CUPS scheduler |
11:32 | <bremner> | joeDoe: what kind of cert is it, self-signed? |
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11:33 | <joeDoe> | Let's encrypt |
11:34 | <bremner> | hmm. I didn't have those kinds of problems with an LE cert. dino-im worked ok to connect to my server |
11:34 | <twb> | cowboypenguin: 90% of the time you should just do "cp foo.iso /dev/disk/by-name/usb-Sandisk-SexMachine-DEADBEE" rather than hand-tuning dd |
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11:39 | <blast007> | joeDoe: which version of Android? |
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11:41 | <elperson> | Rebooted and this time its stuck on "make remote CUPS printers available locally" |
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11:42 | <amacater_> | twb: I respectfully disagree - the dd command actually tells you what the progress is. Maybe not so important on a netinst but a big deal when it's 16G to a stick or a BD image |
11:42 | <koollman> | then use pv :) |
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11:44 | <blast007> | joeDoe: hmm, and maybe that's not relevant yet. I was thinking there was some issue with older android versions after the Let's Encrypt DST Root CA X3 expired in September 2021, but seems it might not cause issues with older Android until September 2024. |
11:44 | <twb> | or gddrescue |
11:44 | <twb> | Or just go get a fucking coffee |
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12:56 | <joeDoe> | blast007: sorry, was on a long call. Android 11 (CalyxOS) |
12:56 | <joeDoe> | ah, just saw your second comment. OK |
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13:21 | <Morrogrim> | Hey |
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13:49 | <colo> | https://paste.debian.net/plain/1225164 - what is at fault here - the package contents, or the package description? |
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13:52 | <Habbie> | colo, i think we'd surprise fewer people if we fix the description and not rename the file :) |
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13:52 | <Habbie> | colo, you should file a bug |
13:52 | <petn-randall> | colo: Yeah, file a bug, this seems like an oversight. |
13:52 | <Habbie> | buster's 3.7 has the same problem |
13:53 | <colo> | ok - but first, I will need my money back. ha! ;) |
13:53 | <Habbie> | i am sending you the money now |
13:53 | <Habbie> | has it arrived? |
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13:53 | <colo> | thanks, it's here, paid back in full |
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13:53 | <Habbie> | wonderful |
13:53 | <Habbie> | !customer |
13:53 | <dpkg> | A satisfied customer? We should have them stuffed! |
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16:35 | <alexrelis> | exit |
16:35 | <alexrelis> | cd ../ |
16:41 | <sussudio> | password: |
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17:10 | <Sqrt{Not}> | sys a: |
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17:21 | <kenji89> | Hello everyone. I'm seeing a strange issue where the GRUB installed on the system drive thinks that the keyboard is constantly typing in seemingly random characters, even when no keyboard is connected. It only happens to the installed GRUB and not to any USB live boot images. I took a video of it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ADbyjLKXs |
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17:21 | <kenji89> | Has anyone here seen this sort of behavior before? Reinstalling GRUB doesn't help, either. |
17:21 | <sussudio> | look at the logs. |
17:22 | <kenji89> | Which logs? |
17:22 | <Habbie> | grub has logs? |
17:22 | <sussudio> | all of them. mostly dmesg though. |
17:22 | <sussudio> | yes you can let grub log |
17:22 | <kenji89> | I can't boot the server past GRUB, so there's no dmesg. |
17:23 | <kenji89> | The video shows that GRUB jumps to the boot command console and acts like someone's mashing on the keyboard. |
17:24 | <Habbie> | it looks less random than mashing |
17:24 | <Habbie> | could this be on serial? |
17:24 | <raven523> | I was thinking maybe it was a serial console |
17:25 | <sussudio> | https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/03/msg00953.html |
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17:27 | <Habbie> | sussudio, that won't help if grub is unhappy |
17:27 | <kenji89> | Thanks for the suggestion. GRUB is also configured for serial. I plugged in a serial cable between this machine and another one to see if the disconnected port could be catching some interference, but that didn't fix it. I'll poke around to see if the new motherboard is doing something strange around serial. |
17:28 | <Habbie> | it does not look random enough for interference either |
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17:30 | <sussudio> | are there any usb devices plugged in |
17:31 | <kenji89> | Only the keyboard, and it still happens when the keyboard is disconnected. |
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17:31 | <sussudio> | to debug things, remove everything you don't immediately need and see if that fixes it |
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17:51 | <kenji89> | Disabling serial did fix it, but I would like to have serial enabled for booting when unattended. Any suggestions beyond baud rate trial and error? |
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17:53 | <sussudio> | i've never had serial interfere with anything. is it a real rs232 port or usb |
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17:54 | <kenji89> | It's a real one. |
17:54 | * | sussudio shrugs |
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18:00 | <Sqrt{Not}> | kenji89, do you have a modem on that port? or how is it accessed when unattended? |
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18:02 | <kenji89> | I have a null modem connected between this machine and another. The machine that was experiencing the booting issue is headless, and I have the null modem as a fallback when SSH is unavailable. |
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18:42 | <Guest9564> | lovely |
18:43 | <Guest9564> | it works! |
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18:47 | <Guest9564> | o |
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19:01 | <Sqrt{Not}> | kenji89, what is the state of that null modem when you are seeing serial noise? |
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19:05 | <joeDoe> | does anyone know an irc channel or matrix room for gajim support? They say to join gajim@conference.gajim.org via XMPP, but I'm having trouble with gajim and can't connect to them, amongst other problems |
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19:05 | <umuench> | Hast du es mal mit /list probiert?^^ |
19:06 | <umuench> | ...oh english :-D |
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20:37 | <NoSSE2> | swrast_dri.so is crashing due to my Athlon XP doesn't have "movsd". This makes webkit (epiphany-browser), firefox-esr, cinnamon, gdm3, smplayer, etc. crash. I've attached gdb to WebKitWebProcess. (I have underclocked the CPU, that's why cpuinfo shows some strange data.) Logs: https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/raw/oqexiwasem |
20:37 | <NoSSE2> | oh, sorry, I wanted to paste this to debian-testing.. sorry |
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21:52 | <alexrelis> | I'm trying to install this program on my system: https://sourceforge.net/projects/dvd-audio/files/dvda-author-package/dvda-author-package-20.08-linux.x86_64.tar.xz/download |
21:52 | <alexrelis> | On my desktop machine I follow the instructions and it works fine. On my server (which is where I want to run the program), I am remoted in via x2go and I get an error: |
21:52 | <alexrelis> | https://paste.debian.net/1225207/ |
21:52 | <alexrelis> | When I symbolically link libm.so.6 to the program's directory I get a different error: |
21:52 | <alexrelis> | `./run.sh: line 2: 20922 Illegal instruction LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$PWD ./dvda-author-gui` |
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21:57 | <somiaj> | alexandros_c: is your desktop and server different versions of debian? |
21:57 | <somiaj> | ,libc6 |
21:57 | <somiaj> | ,v libc6 |
21:57 | <judd> | Package: libc6 on amd64 -- stretch-security: 2.24-11+deb9u1; stretch: 2.24-11+deb9u4; buster: 2.28-10; bullseye: 2.31-13+deb11u2; bookworm: 2.33-1; sid: 2.33-1; experimental: 2.34-0experimental2 |
21:58 | <somiaj> | a buster machine is glibc 2.28, so it will be missing the GLIBC_2.29 symbol it is looking for. It might be that software just won't run on buster |
21:58 | <jmcnaught> | somiaj: they have not returned after getting kicked for flooding |
21:58 | <somiaj> | oh I mised that, thanks |
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23:05 | <donfede> | jmcnaught: `apt install ~U~Astable-security' worked perfectly, to apply only security related updates on my stable systems (holding off point release for now); ty all (twb) for feedback |
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