--- | Log | opened Sat Jan 01 00:00:10 2022 |
00:00 | <awal1> | with ~c you tell aptitude to select removed pkgs, but not purged |
00:00 | <awal1> | aptitude will purge residual stuff left by removed pkgs |
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00:01 | <hemebond> | Huh, these package _have_ already been removed. That's very interesting. |
00:01 | <awal1> | if you get too much stuff that is because you may have too much residual things |
00:01 | <awal1> | read that docs i pasted |
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00:03 | <awal1> | what says dpkg --get-selections | grep firefox |
00:04 | <awal1> | use paste.debian.net |
00:04 | <awal1> | well, if you want... |
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00:06 | <dvs> | awal1: There is no -c option for aptitude |
00:06 | <awal1> | dvs, not -c |
00:06 | <gooseman> | dvs: It's a tilde, not a dash. |
00:06 | <awal1> | dvs ~c |
00:06 | <awal1> | ~ not - |
00:06 | <dvs> | oh, tilde |
00:06 | <awal1> | tilde yes |
00:07 | <awal1> | spanish tilde |
00:07 | <awal1> | like niño :) |
00:08 | <awal1> | gooseman, i see you don't want to play with your system |
00:08 | <awal1> | hehe |
00:09 | <awal1> | that is ok. it is wise not doing nothing when not sure about what is being done ;) |
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00:39 | * | awal1 surprised about how good is breeze-gtk-theme used in gtk environment (sid). a very recommended theme |
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01:05 | <gooseman> | awal1: What do you mean? |
01:05 | <gooseman> | I don't mind trying different things on the laptop. It is my experimental machine. :) |
01:07 | <awal1> | i meant, if you don't know what you're doing, may be better not do anything |
01:08 | <gooseman> | I don't know what else to try. I *am* willing to try, though. |
01:08 | <gooseman> | What do you suggest? ;) |
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02:10 | <gooseman> | I'm going to post my question again, for all the folks in here who have just joined. |
02:10 | <gooseman> | I'm running Debian 11 with Xfce 4.16 on a Dell Latitude E6420 laptop, and I'm trying to figure out why the HDMI port is not working for me. I would rather diagnose the software before diagnosing any hardware. I know my HDMI cable and external monitor are fine, because another machine can use them successfully. :) |
02:10 | <gooseman> | When I run `lspci | grep -i hdmi`, I only see an *Audio device.* When I run `xrandr | grep -i hdmi`, I see no results. This does not change before or after unplugging/plugging the HDMI cable. The laptop has an old NVidia card, and I installed the appropriate driver (through `nvidia-detect`). Unfortunattely that did not work, either. |
02:10 | <gooseman> | What else can I (or should I) try? I'm open to your suggestions. |
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02:43 | <jim> | how can I find a list of pdf readers? |
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02:45 | <hemebond> | Software Centre? |
02:48 | <icelupin7> | https://wiki.debian.org/PDF ?? |
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02:55 | <jim> | icelupin7, seems promising |
02:58 | <jmux> | jim: aptitude search ~Gworks-with-format::pdf~Gscope::application |
02:59 | * | jmux is not so sure what scope::application refers to, but that skips at least the latex stuff |
03:04 | <jim> | ok, so now I discovered a weird situation: when I try okular something.pdf OR evince something.pdf, no new window opens, and looking at ps aux and grepping for either evince or okular, those processes are missing (I only see the grep process) |
03:04 | <jim> | I'm gonna try redownloading the pdfs |
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03:07 | <SonicR> | can anyone explain this error? https://paste.debian.net/1225438/ |
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03:08 | <jim> | which line number? |
03:08 | <jim> | (you may wish to look at the link you just posted for line numbers) |
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03:09 | <SonicR> | jim: 8 |
03:09 | <jim> | bsp: unable to load firmware |
03:10 | <jim> | opn line 40 |
03:10 | <jim> | it's another firmware failed message |
03:11 | <jim> | let's find out which package that firmware is in |
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03:12 | <jmux> | SonicR: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=990662 |
03:12 | <judd> | Bug https://bugs.debian.org/990662 in firmware-misc-nonfree (open): «nouveau 0000:01:00.0: firmware: failed to load nouveau/nvd9_fuc084 (-2)»; severity: normal; opened: 2021-07-04; last modified: 2021-07-04. |
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03:17 | <SonicR> | jim ok and what do you think i should install ? |
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03:18 | <jim> | no idea, those files don't seem to be in a debian package |
03:19 | <jim> | you might be able to "cut" them apart from the windows driver? there is or used to be something called firmware cutter or fw-cutter or something (I know I'm getting the name wrong)' |
03:20 | <SonicR> | jim: however it seems to work fine. i mean regarding the video part |
03:20 | <SonicR> | i was actuslly checking dmesg for a different wireless card related issue |
03:21 | <jim> | I didn't see a firmware load failure for the wireless |
03:21 | <awal1> | gooseman, excuses, before I confused you with hemebond. nvm, sorry :P |
03:21 | <jim> | maybeee... blinded by the light... |
03:22 | <SonicR> | jim: when i boot up. wifi doesnt connect. i need to unblock wifi using rfkill and then connects right away. what could it be ? |
03:22 | <jim> | oh, that I dunno... but since your card connects, the driver/firmware must be there |
03:23 | <awal1> | gooseman, all what i said was for hemebond |
03:23 | <awal1> | (Y) |
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03:36 | <Strykar> | Hi, any chance someone recalls the name of an existing Go based binary package? Upstream ships a compiled Go package as a tar.gz with SHA256 sums, and I was hoping to create debian and ubuntu packages.. thought I could just use an existing example to build on |
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03:46 | <icelupin7> | if there is a good place to start learning about kernel |
03:46 | <icelupin7> | where would it be? |
03:47 | <tohoyn> | are you going to do kernel programming or just build it yourself? |
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03:53 | <jim> | maybe you could look at how the kernel starts |
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05:06 | <gratuxri> | nc -v mentors.debian.net 11371 |
05:06 | <gratuxri> | nc: connect to mentors.debian.net (185.22.221.46) port 11371 (tcp) failed: Connection refused |
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05:07 | <gratuxri> | Hello, it looks like hkps server on mentors.debian.org is dead |
05:07 | <gratuxri> | Somebody here, who can fix it? |
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05:09 | <sussudio> | !mentors |
05:09 | <dpkg> | mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
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05:21 | <ml|> | Happy New Year all. |
05:25 | <Strykar> | thanks sussudio |
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05:34 | <Blendie> | tqi ieeues |
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05:35 | <Blendie> | i need to enter ils passwoed ot py rtf |
05:36 | <Blendie> | or it wort wont wortk |
05:37 | <Blendie> | ler me rerjasw |
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05:42 | <Blendie> | i need to type two times my luks passwod ot it wort work |
05:43 | <Blendie> | same with user encrypyrd password |
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05:54 | <captnfab> | do you think it's a software issue? :-D |
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06:45 | <Blendie> | yes |
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06:53 | <spawacz> | my sound stopped working on debian, i rebooted the pc 6 times already. I tried booting into windoze and it works there, back on debian it does not |
06:53 | <spawacz> | no signs in dmesg or aplay |
06:54 | <spawacz> | o.. 7th reboot it worked |
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06:54 | <sussudio> | spawacz: check in the mixer if sound it muted. |
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06:57 | <spawacz> | it's not... why would it randomly be |
06:57 | <spawacz> | and other time not |
06:57 | <spawacz> | i got used to that i have to reboot to get sound twice a week but it never happend 6 times in a row in a single day |
06:58 | <sussudio> | check the mixer |
06:59 | <spawacz> | i will next time i boot withotu sound. i saved dmesg, lspcii ,aplay stuff and pacmd stuff |
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07:03 | <samsep01_> | Hiiii |
07:03 | <samsep01_> | How can i install debian |
07:04 | <towo`> | download the iso, put it on a usb stick, start from that stick |
07:04 | <bremner> | samsep01_: did you read the install manual linked from the download page? |
07:04 | <towo`> | then follow the instructions of the installer |
07:04 | <spawacz> | only pacmd list vastly differs |
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07:05 | <samsep01_> | How can i install the iso |
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07:07 | <samsep01_> | d |
07:07 | <samsep01_> | H |
07:07 | <samsep01_> | fuck debian |
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07:07 | <spawacz> | wtffff |
07:07 | <spawacz> | i just |
07:08 | <spawacz> | presses mute, unmute and sound is back |
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07:08 | <spawacz> | but it was not muted at first |
07:08 | <samsep01_> | fuck debian again |
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07:08 | * | sussudio said so |
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07:08 | <spawacz> | but before i pressed it it saw the sound bar jumping |
07:08 | <spawacz> | so weird |
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07:09 | <fuck_debian> | read my fucking name |
07:09 | <fuck_debian> | fuckkkkkk debiannn |
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07:10 | <fuck_debian> | fuck debian and suck my dick |
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07:11 | <gamer01> | HIHIHI |
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07:11 | <spawacz> | !win sussudio |
07:11 | <dpkg> | Congratulations, sussudio! You have won a one way ticket to Charlotte, North Carolina ... YeeHaw!! |
07:13 | <sussudio> | samsep01 originally came into the channel from algerian IP addresses. |
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07:15 | <sami> | Hey is debian better than windows?? |
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07:16 | <sussudio> | you shouldn't use the same alias all over the internet, samsep01. |
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07:18 | <@bremner> | please just ignore the troll, thanks. |
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07:19 | <spawacz> | How to know if a maintainer is active? There's a package that has been last updated in buster and it contains many issues (package is ansiweather) |
07:20 | <Wulf> | or set +M and start banning accounts... |
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07:20 | <@bremner> | spawacz: you can check contributors.debian.org |
07:20 | <sussudio> | you don't need a registered account to get in here, it's against policy |
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07:21 | <azeem> | spawacz: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=ansiweather doesn't make it look like there's many issues so maybe start filing them? |
07:22 | <SonicR> | Im trying to stop constantly blinking Wifi LED. Followed this tutorial but no success. https://itectec.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-how-to-stop-constantly-blinking-wifi-led/ any clue ? |
07:22 | <Wulf> | sussudio: which policy is that? |
07:22 | <azeem> | the policy of making it easy to get Debian support I guess |
07:23 | <@bremner> | I think I'd be inclined to block tor before forcing registration |
07:23 | <@bremner> | collective punishment, it worked for the Romans (TM) |
07:23 | <@Ganneff> | we do set +R whenever we need it, and there are more steps we can take before that. and that ought to be enough of this, if you want more, goto #debian-offtopic please. |
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07:25 | <bentham> | I disagree, respectfully, that blocking Tor is an appropriate method to mitigate attacks. |
07:25 | <@bremner> | yes, ok #debian-offtopic is there for that discussion |
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07:26 | <spawacz> | azeem: it just needs to be bumped from 1.11 o 1.17. There is no point in fixing bugs because they all are fixed in new version |
07:27 | <spawacz> | nvm i will just fill a bug and see what happens |
07:27 | <sussudio> | spawacz: it does the mixer mutey thing here too on a laptop, btw. |
07:27 | <azeem> | spawacz: then file a wishlist bug about a new upstream version being available |
07:28 | <bentham> | bremner: We've had the discussion before. I still think you're wrong. |
07:29 | <@Ganneff> | bentham: thats fine, you may think so, ops disagree - and please end this in here. thanks. |
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07:47 | <spawacz> | is it possible to remove a bug report? i sent it twice because it didnt appear first time but then both popped up after 5 min |
07:47 | <@bremner> | spawacz: you can close the one you don't want |
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07:48 | <@bremner> | just send a message fo nnnnn-done@bugs.debian.org explaining |
07:48 | <@bremner> | where nnnnn is the bug number |
07:48 | <azeem> | or merge them |
07:49 | <@bremner> | yep. More work though :P |
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08:26 | <jmux> | SonicR: you can modinfo the kernel module to see, if that parameter still exists. If you don't know the module name, check lspci -v. |
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08:55 | <Blendie> | id downpimmimh safw?? |
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08:56 | <Blendie> | p ,eed to do so,etjimh with wit tjis bub |
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08:56 | <Blendie> | ia downpimmimh safw?? |
08:57 | <Blendie> | ia downpimmimh safw? |
08:57 | <Blendie> | aS |
08:57 | <Blendie> | sae |
08:57 | <azeem> | Blendie: sorry? |
08:59 | <Blendie> | is downpining sasw |
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09:01 | <Blendie> | i need to to do somw=ethi0mh wwitt this bug |
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09:01 | <towo`> | Blendie: drunken? |
09:02 | <Blendie> | soeey for my oicrimim niy hihj |
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09:04 | <lelo> | almost encrypted |
09:05 | <Blendie> | is downpImmg safe |
09:05 | <Blendie> | i need ro fix this bug |
09:07 | <lelo> | I don't know a way to easy downgrade. but some critical libraries like libc can be trick to downgrade. btw what bug? |
09:10 | <towo`> | i would say, don't drink and downgrade or don't drink and try to fix bugs |
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09:24 | <Blendie> | ok so howto fix login and lox procedure? |
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09:27 | <sussudio> | liquid oxygen or salmon? |
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10:47 | <ckosloff> | Sqrt{Not}: remember I checked with you about a failed computer? |
10:48 | <ckosloff> | Sqrt{Not}: I am writing from it! |
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10:55 | <Sqrt{Not}> | ckosloff, I do remember a little, quite some days ago I think. Glad to hear you got it working :) |
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11:08 | <ckosloff> | Sqrt{Not}: remember that memtest failed on new memories, well one of them was not seated correctly, duh!! |
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11:15 | <Sqrt{Not}> | ckosloff, ahhh. good find, and much cheaper than some fixes. |
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11:20 | * | jmux wonders how HW even post'ed with a wrongly installed memory module… |
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11:27 | <ckosloff> | jmux: debian cn work around it, it did in my case |
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12:12 | <aindilis> | back in the day Linux Cookbook was great to learn GNU/Linux from, I was wondering if there is something that can be used to bring a new user up to speed since it looks outdated |
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12:18 | <Andrie> | now sure about debian 11 but for 9 and 10 there is https://debian-handbook.info/ |
12:19 | <aindilis> | ty! |
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12:21 | <Sqrt{Not}> | the bots have some suggestions too: |
12:21 | <Sqrt{Not}> | !grounding |
12:21 | <dpkg> | Before asking in here or on the <debian-user> mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. The Debian Administrator's Handbook is also good. Ask me about <ig>, <overview>, <reference>, <refcard>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>, <debian-handbook> (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference). |
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12:23 | <Andrie> | nice to remember |
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12:23 | <aindilis> | ty!! |
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12:25 | <Andrie> | but hey, the unix lessons are 5-6 sloppy lines |
12:27 | <Andrie> | some things are 20 years old :D |
12:29 | <Sqrt{Not}> | All the bot factoids can be edited. <unix lessons> comes as 8 irregular lines on this machine, because there are no hard linebreaks, only those resulting from window size on the beholder's screen. |
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13:53 | <ggemu> | Hello, I'm trying to get va-api to run to enable hardware acceleration - without success so far. glxinfo output seems normal, but vainfo fails with https://paste.debian.net/1225490 . Any ideas? |
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13:55 | <QuickShotMan> | who here knows Debian? |
13:56 | <bremner> | !ask |
13:56 | <dpkg> | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>. |
13:56 | <sussudio> | ggemu: does usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/dri/i915_drv_video.so actually exist |
13:56 | <ggemu> | checking ... |
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14:00 | <QuickShotMan> | Debian 10 mate desktop .. guess i picked a hard one |
14:00 | <QuickShotMan> | minidlna works good |
14:00 | <QuickShotMan> | samba is not setup yet |
14:01 | <sussudio> | still not a question |
14:01 | <ggemu> | sussudio: sure doesnt |
14:01 | <sussudio> | ggemu: well, there you go. |
14:01 | <sussudio> | ,file i915_drv_video.so |
14:01 | <judd> | No packages in bullseye/amd64 were found with that file. |
14:02 | <QuickShotMan> | im getting there |
14:02 | <QuickShotMan> | chkconfig is not debian 10 |
14:02 | <QuickShotMan> | i know |
14:03 | <QuickShotMan> | what is the debian 10 of chkconfig? |
14:04 | <sussudio> | ggemu: just google "i915_drv_video.so", seems this not just a debian problem, and not a recent one... |
14:04 | <ggemu> | sussudio: am in the process of doing that at the moment, thanks |
14:05 | <QuickShotMan> | systemctl enable? |
14:05 | <QuickShotMan> | systemctl --help ? |
14:06 | <sussudio> | ,file chkconfig |
14:06 | <judd> | No packages in bullseye/amd64 were found with that file. |
14:07 | <ggemu> | sussudio: the folder has i915_dri.so and i965_drv_video.so just not the i915_drv_video.so. The i915 is used by the graphics card as confirmed with lspci. |
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14:10 | <QuickShotMan> | i found it systemctl disable minidlna |
14:11 | <QuickShotMan> | does opencl work on Debian 10? or use CUDA? |
14:13 | <Sebastinas> | ggemu: Which integrated GPU do you have? |
14:14 | <QuickShotMan> | what is it again usb command in terminal? |
14:16 | <sussudio> | !vaapi |
14:16 | <dpkg> | VA-API (Video Acceleration API) is an <API> specification and open source software library (libVA), providing accelerated video playback by offloading video decoding/post-processing to the <GPU>. The i965-va-driver Debian package provides a VAAPI driver for the Intel G45 and HD Graphics family. http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/vaapi . See also <vdpau>. |
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14:16 | <sussudio> | ,v i965-va-driver |
14:16 | <judd> | Package: i965-va-driver on amd64 -- stretch: 1.7.3-1; buster: 2.3.0+dfsg1-1; bookworm: 2.4.1+dfsg1-1; bullseye: 2.4.1+dfsg1-1; sid: 2.4.1+dfsg1-1 |
14:16 | <sussudio> | ggemu: do you have that installed |
14:17 | <QuickShotMan> | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
14:17 | <Sebastinas> | !vaapi is missing intel-media-va-driver as alternative |
14:17 | <dpkg> | ...but vaapi is already something else... |
14:18 | <ggemu> | sebastinas: Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller Kernel driver in use: i915 |
14:18 | <QuickShotMan> | mine says intel its a dell server |
14:19 | <sussudio> | why do you need a vaapi driver on a server |
14:19 | <QuickShotMan> | mining blockchain |
14:19 | <QuickShotMan> | and programming AI |
14:20 | <sussudio> | do you just say random things, QuickShotMan |
14:20 | <QuickShotMan> | No Sir |
14:21 | <ggemu> | sussudio: yes i do have that installed. I'm assuming that's where the .so file comes from (see above) |
14:21 | <Sebastinas> | ggemu: That does not support VAAPI |
14:21 | <ggemu> | Through all the unresolved bugs that turn up in google i get the same feeling |
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14:22 | <QuickShotMan> | I like the DuckDuckGo |
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14:25 | <ggemu> | sebastinas, sussudio: u think i could use the i965 driver instead of the i915 and have more luck? That file is available |
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14:29 | <sussudio> | it will either load or not. |
14:29 | <sussudio> | does i915 even have hardware acceleration |
14:31 | <ggemu> | sussudio: some sources claim it does for some codecs with vaapi, where can i get that answered definitely? |
14:32 | <sussudio> | google? |
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14:35 | <Gerowen> | Question. At some point last night my Nextcloud stopped working because something happened to the MySQL database. I take daily backups of the database and have a working copy, but I'm unable to log into mysql with mysql -u root -p to see about examining or replacing the database with a working copy. Ideas? |
14:36 | <Gerowen> | That makes me think it isn't the database and is actually some issue with mysql/mariadb |
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14:59 | <ggemu> | sussudio: It's an Intel GMA 900 . Not supported by va-api. Very old but works fine in vlc/mpv for 720p video :) https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005944/graphics.html talks of hardware acceleration but i probably have that covered with the mesa driver? |
14:59 | <ggemu> | *it |
15:00 | * | sussudio shrugs |
15:01 | <ggemu> | ok thanks. i'm just trying to get my cpu below 100% when watching streams in the browser, in vlc everything is fine at 50% or so. |
15:02 | <jmux> | ggemu: what CPU is that? |
15:02 | <ggemu> | pentium m 1,7ghz |
15:04 | <Sqrt{Not}> | I think you can watch streams in vlc |
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15:34 | <colo> | using yt-dlp and friends, youtube et al. work |
15:34 | <colo> | (though I use mpv for watching) |
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16:30 | <aindilis> | anyone know why there is no gnome option in deb 11 for enabling middle mouse button "emulation" for laptops without one? |
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16:45 | <maxzor> | Is there a command to install all binary packages from a given source package? |
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16:56 | <pert> | maxzor: I don't think there is. If you need to do this in a script or something you could do something like apt install $(apt-cache showsrc bash | grep -E "^Binary" | cut -d ':' -f 2 | tr , " "), but I'm sure you knew that |
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16:57 | <maxzor> | right, so it seems like the only built-in bundling option is the meta-package system |
16:57 | <maxzor> | thank you |
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16:59 | <pert> | maxzor: you might also be interested in equivs, which is a tool that can generate custom (meta)packages for you |
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17:03 | <maxzor> | I had heard of it, nice to see it again |
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17:07 | <maxzor> | Also, is someone looking into multithreading lintian? |
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17:10 | <user> | hello |
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17:13 | <pert> | Guest9920: howdy |
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17:14 | <rz> | hi all |
17:14 | <pert> | maxzor: Lintian is written in Perl, as someone that knows nothing about Perl, I wonder if it even has a concept of multithread-style parallelism |
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17:27 | <Guest9920> | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot ### when I use the command : chroot /mnt system answer me bash: /etc/bash.bashrc: Bad message |
17:28 | <Guest9920> | https://paste.debian.net/1225522/ |
17:30 | <zoke> | I usually add a command to the chroot... 'chroot /mnt /bin/bash' |
17:31 | <zoke> | not sure if that's your issue though |
17:31 | <zoke> | pert: it's possible to do threading in perl |
17:32 | <Guest9920> | zoke, So must I reboot the system and try again ? I-m from deb11 live now |
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17:32 | <zoke> | Guest9920: what's the root issue? |
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17:35 | <shingouz> | i seem to remember that you had to cd into the directory you want to chroot into. in other words cd /chroot/directory, chroot, then fo the update-grubs or whatever |
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17:36 | <zoke> | there should be no need to change folder prior to chroot |
17:36 | <Guest9920> | zoke, at start up grub_rescue |
17:37 | <zoke> | however there may be a good idea to do a bind mount on /proc and one of the /dev subfolders (I forgot which one) |
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17:37 | <shingouz> | zoke, been a loooong time since i did a chroot install, but after the chroot you are inside the chroot environment. and yes, the /proc and /dev should be bind mounted |
17:38 | <zoke> | Guest9920: you're missing a grub menu and getting a grub prompt? |
17:38 | <shingouz> | oh, and /sys too |
17:40 | <Guest9920> | zoke, system dont startup , but the partition exist |
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17:41 | <zoke> | UEFI or BIOS? |
17:41 | <Guest9920> | bios |
17:41 | <Guest9920> | fdisk -l | nc termbin.com 9999 |
17:41 | <Guest9920> | https://termbin.com/7d08 |
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17:41 | <Guest9920> | deb11 is on sdb5 |
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17:42 | <shingouz> | !chroot |
17:42 | <dpkg> | To chroot into a Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem with "mount /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --rbind --make-rslave /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target". |
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17:43 | <Guest9920> | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot |
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17:45 | <Guest9920> | official debian page https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall link to the ubuntu solution |
17:45 | <Guest9920> | maybe the bot here have outdated solution |
17:45 | <zoke> | the invalid modinfo.sh message may be worth looking into... |
17:46 | <zoke> | have you tried reinstalling grub2 in the chroot? |
17:46 | <zoke> | just to make sure all files are correct |
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17:46 | <Guest9920> | zoke, must I reinstall grub2 in chroot from repository _ |
17:46 | <Guest9920> | ? |
17:47 | <zoke> | worth a try I guess |
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17:48 | <zoke> | should be as easy as running 'apt install --reinstall grub-pc-bin' |
17:48 | <zoke> | in the chroot env |
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17:48 | <Guest9920> | https://paste.debian.net/1225524/ |
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17:49 | <Guest9920> | from chroot partition sdb5 with bullseye |
17:49 | <zoke> | what are you running chroot from? |
17:50 | <Guest9920> | from bash, terminal xfce4 |
17:50 | <Guest9920> | debian11 xfce4 terminal |
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17:50 | <Guest9920> | debian11 live xfce4 terminal |
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17:51 | <zoke> | did you do all the bind-mounts prior to chroot? |
17:51 | <gratuxri> | for i in /proc /sys /dev ; do mount --rbind $i /target/$i ; done ? |
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17:54 | <zoke> | also... final error message from apt, "are you root?" |
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17:54 | <zoke> | not sure how the liveCD works as I've never used it |
17:55 | <Guest9920> | https://paste.debian.net/1225525/ |
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17:57 | <zoke> | is there a shadow and passwd file in /etc (chroot)? |
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17:57 | <Guest9920> | basically I had some free space on disk, and I create a ntfs partition to use commonly between linux and windows. I made the partition from win10, but at startup grub_rescue |
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18:00 | <Guest9920> | https://paste.debian.net/1225527/ |
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18:00 | <Guest9920> | I created new partiton sdb6 in the extended partition |
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18:01 | <Guest9920> | all partition are visible and mountable |
18:01 | <Guest9920> | gparted view all correctly |
18:01 | <zoke> | still... do you have /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow on /dev/sdb5? |
18:01 | <zoke> | error messages from apt are a bit strange... |
18:03 | <zoke> | and the error message from whoami indicates something is up with the root user 'whoami: cannot find name for user ID 0: Bad message' |
18:03 | <zoke> | I would expect that message if root was missing in /etc/passwd |
18:04 | <Guest9920> | https://paste.debian.net/1225529/ |
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18:04 | <gratuxri> | Wow, d????????? ? ? ? ? ? etc |
18:04 | <zoke> | yeah... |
18:05 | <zoke> | may be time for a fsck on /dev/sdb5 |
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18:05 | <Guest9920> | fsck from chroot of normal bash _ |
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18:05 | <Guest9920> | ? |
18:05 | <gratuxri> | no |
18:05 | <zoke> | from the live env... |
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18:05 | <zoke> | umount /dev/sdb5 first |
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18:06 | <zoke> | my guess is that whatever tool you used to create sdb6 managed to fudge sdb5 |
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18:07 | <zoke> | also... do you have any fs-related error messages in dmesg? |
18:08 | <Guest9920> | umount: /mnt: target is busy. |
18:08 | <Guest9920> | all term closed and exited from chroot |
18:08 | <gratuxri> | umount -R /mnt |
18:08 | <Guest9920> | ok |
18:09 | <zoke> | 'fuser -m /mnt' should show which processes still use /mnt |
18:09 | <Guest9920> | https://paste.debian.net/1225530/ |
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18:10 | <zoke> | are all important files backed up? |
18:10 | <gratuxri> | fsck -a /dev/sdb5 |
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18:10 | <Guest9920> | zoke, yes, that was a new installation of deb11 |
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18:11 | <zoke> | then I would run with '-y' flag |
18:11 | <gratuxri> | +1 |
18:11 | <zoke> | there is potentially a large amount of errors which will trigger a prompt |
18:11 | <Guest9920> | https://paste.debian.net/1225531/ |
18:12 | <zoke> | and you don't want to answer them all manually |
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18:12 | <Guest9920> | so it-s better |
18:13 | <zoke> | as it says... run again without '-a' |
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18:13 | <Guest9920> | so it`s better re-install deb11 ? this is not a problem, this is a fast I5 desktop with SSD |
18:13 | <zoke> | I would try to fix it just for the learing experiance |
18:13 | <zoke> | but that's me |
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18:14 | <Guest9920> | https://paste.debian.net/1225532/ |
18:14 | <zoke> | but if you don't care about that reinstalling gives you a known timeframe... |
18:15 | <gratuxri> | I don't think so, just run fsck -y /dev/sdb5 for the first time and reinstall grub in chroot |
18:15 | <zoke> | add '-y' as stated to skip all the prompts |
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18:17 | <Guest9920> | gratuxri, ran fsck -y /dev/sdb5 # executed |
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18:18 | <gratuxri> | mkdir /target |
18:18 | <gratuxri> | mount /dev/sdb5 /target |
18:18 | <Guest9920> | I try to reboot from live and reinstall grub in chroot ? |
18:19 | <Guest9920> | ok |
18:19 | <gratuxri> | for i in /proc /sys /dev ; do mount --rbind $i /target/$i ; done |
18:19 | <gratuxri> | chroot /target |
18:19 | <gratuxri> | mount -av |
18:20 | <Guest9920> | ok, no errors |
18:20 | <gratuxri> | rm -rf /boot/grub |
18:21 | <Guest9920> | ok |
18:21 | <Guest9920> | now run grub-install ? |
18:21 | <gratuxri> | yes |
18:21 | <gratuxri> | and don't forget update-grub after it |
18:21 | <Guest9920> | grub-install: error: invalid modinfo file `/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh'. |
18:22 | <zoke> | reinstall grub-pc-bin |
18:22 | <gratuxri> | Are you sure, that you are running in legacy BIOS mode? |
18:22 | <zoke> | that file was probably corrupted |
18:22 | <gratuxri> | +1 |
18:23 | <Guest9920> | grub-pc-bin wasn-t present |
18:23 | <gratuxri> | ls -al /boot/efi/ |
18:23 | <zoke> | that file should belong to grub-pc-bin |
18:24 | <Guest9920> | gratuxri, from chroot or shell ? |
18:24 | <gratuxri> | chroot |
18:24 | <Guest9920> | s: cannot access '/boot/efi': No such file or directory |
18:25 | <gratuxri> | Just to be sure: ls -al /sys/firmware/efi/ |
18:25 | <zoke> | efi should be EFI iirc |
18:25 | <zoke> | in /boot... |
18:26 | <Guest9920> | ls -al /sys/firmware/efi/ ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi/': No such file or directory |
18:26 | <gratuxri> | zoke: it should be subfolder: /boot/efi/EFI |
18:26 | <gratuxri> | OK, apt-get install grub-pc |
18:26 | <Guest9920> | from chroot _ |
18:26 | <Guest9920> | ? |
18:26 | <gratuxri> | yes |
18:26 | <zoke> | gratuxri: so it is :p |
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18:27 | <Guest9920> | https://paste.debian.net/1225533/ |
18:27 | <gratuxri> | ls -al / ; df -hT |
18:28 | <Guest9920> | https://paste.debian.net/1225534/ |
18:28 | <zoke> | no /etc... |
18:29 | <Guest9920> | https://paste.debian.net/1225535/ |
18:29 | <gratuxri> | Without etc it would be really hard :( I think new installation make more sense here |
18:30 | <zoke> | I guess you could to a debootstrap into where you mounted /dev/sdb5 |
18:30 | <Guest9920> | why /etc disappared ? isnt it a normal directory ? it isnt as /proc or /dev |
18:30 | <gratuxri> | For learning purpose you can look at lost+found |
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18:30 | <zoke> | that would install the base system and recreate/reinstall all/most files in /etc |
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18:31 | <zoke> | but you probably have a lot of broken files all over |
18:31 | <Guest9920> | So I make a new installation, the next rime I -ll NEVER use win partion program |
18:32 | <gratuxri> | It make sense, because they don't know about filesystems on this partitions and just make the partition smaller |
18:33 | <Guest9920> | zoke, yes, but it is strange, I only create a new partiton from win10 disk part, and it touch /etc of sdb5... not comprensible |
18:33 | <zoke> | it's not only /etc... that modinfo.sh file was also corrupted... |
18:33 | <zoke> | and who knows what else |
18:34 | <gratuxri> | Guest9920: And you don't resized sdb5? |
18:34 | <Guest9920> | but win10 start correctly, I installed grun o sda, so booting from sdb all is right |
18:35 | <Guest9920> | no risized sdb5 |
18:35 | <gratuxri> | Sorry it's too late here. Good Night and Happy New Year! |
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18:36 | <Guest9920> | Night |
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18:37 | <zoke> | props for doing the dual-boot thing... |
18:38 | <zoke> | all my attempts failed miserably |
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18:42 | <Guest9928> | hello |
18:42 | <Guest9928> | here I am again |
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18:42 | <Guest9928> | I reboot in EFI mode, and now fsck /dev/sdb5 go correclty |
18:43 | <zoke> | you're still missing /etc i presume... |
18:43 | <Guest9928> | maybe the errors were from the boot mode ? |
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18:44 | <Guest9928> | zoke, yes /etc dont exist |
18:44 | <zoke> | not likely... boot mode has no impact on filesystem errors |
18:44 | <zoke> | so it's still broken |
18:44 | <Guest9928> | ah, boot mode are not impact on the files |
18:44 | <raf3> | ciao a tutti |
18:45 | <Guest9928> | ok, I ll go to re install the system |
18:45 | <zoke> | just that all fs errors where corrected... |
18:45 | <zoke> | Guest9928: go for it |
18:45 | <Guest9928> | zoke, yes, ok. |
18:45 | <Guest9928> | Thanks for all |
18:46 | <zoke> | np |
18:46 | <Guest9928> | for partition a disk , it is the same use fdisk cfdisk or parted ? |
18:47 | <Guest9928> | in past fdisk made some errors seem |
18:47 | <zoke> | you already have the partition now... no need to touch them |
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18:47 | <zoke> | but I usally run parted |
18:47 | <Guest9928> | ok, only format at the installation |
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18:48 | <zoke> | yup |
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19:35 | <user453> | hello |
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19:38 | <dvs> | lo |
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19:40 | <user453> | I dont found some packets in deb11 , my rep is https://termbin.com/26yq |
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19:42 | <dvs> | user453: what packages? You only specify main for most of your repos. |
19:43 | <user453> | nvidia-detect |
19:43 | <dvs> | ,v nvidia-detect |
19:43 | <judd> | Package: nvidia-detect on amd64 -- stretch-proposed-updates/non-free: 390.132-1; stretch/non-free: 390.138-1; stretch-backports/non-free: 418.74-1~bpo9+1; buster/non-free: 418.211.00-1; buster-backports/non-free: 460.73.01-1~bpo10+1; bullseye/non-free: 460.91.03-1; bookworm/non-free: 470.86-1; sid/non-free: 470.86-1; experimental/non-free: 495.44-1 |
19:43 | <dvs> | yup, it's in non-free |
19:44 | <user453> | yes, but I added non free in repository |
19:44 | <dvs> | you added non-free to ONE of your repositories |
19:44 | <user453> | apt install nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver firmware-misc-nonfree |
19:44 | <user453> | https://termbin.com/26yq |
19:45 | <dvs> | you added non-free to ONE of your repositories |
19:45 | <user453> | Must add non free to all repository ? |
19:46 | <dvs> | Yes, if you want to use the command you specified. |
19:46 | <user453> | contrib non-free to all |
19:47 | <user453> | without security |
19:48 | <user453> | ok, all right now. However the bot dpkg don't tell this, it's old |
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21:14 | <daniel-s> | When buster goes into limited LTS support in August will I need to change anything in apt or do the security updates keep coming? |
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21:15 | <daniel-s> | Actually, I found this. I think it answers my question. https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using |
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22:19 | <Haggot> | Hi, I've got Bullseye installed and I can't seem to get my sd drive to work. I've tried googling the issue but I can't really find much on the issue. The SD drive is simply not recognized at all. |
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22:21 | <jmcnaught> | By "SD drive" do you mean SATA disk, SD card reader, SSD, or something else? |
22:22 | <Haggot> | SD card reader |
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22:25 | <jmcnaught> | Nothing in the logs when you insert a card? Is the card reader USB or integrated into the computer? Is it listed by lsusb? |
22:26 | <Haggot> | It's intergrated and no nothing |
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22:27 | <somiaj> | you could try to look through lshw and see if it is listed there anywhere |
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22:53 | <Haggot> | Ok, So I think I find it in lshw and it says "UNCLAIMED" |
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23:37 | <Haggot> | OK so, I think maybe the SD drive (Alcor AU6625) is not yet properly supported by the kernel? I found a fix on github but when I tried it download it it just said repository not found. |
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23:43 | <Haggot> | Looks like it might be an external SD card reader for me though =D |
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