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#debian IRC Logs for 2022-01-07

---Logopened Fri Jan 07 00:00:18 2022
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01:21<Mayla>Hello?
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01:23<jm_>!ask
01:23<dpkg>If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ See <smart questions><errors>.
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04:46<te7>Hi, every time I restart the pc, I find the bluetooth unnecessarily turned on, since I don't use it, so I'm trying to disable the automatic turn on without completely disabling the service with systemctl
04:46<te7>Is there a chance to do it?
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04:53<enyc>te7: I wonder if you could use some dbus / blue???? command to toggle bluetooth off and put this in some kind of xstartup / login command
04:57<te7>Yes, I could try. Do you know where I can find the precise command for bluetooth toggle?
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04:57<te7>@enyc
04:58<freq>ersbdnodm
04:58<freq>te7: on irc, you don't @
04:58<freq>you just highlight without the '@'
04:58<freq>enyc^^
04:59<te7>freq: ok, sorry
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04:59<freq>te7: no apology needed. just making sure you get through.
04:59<enyc>te7: I do not know. what bluetooth control tools do you use?
05:00<enyc>te7: dgkg -l blue\* <- may give clues what you have installed
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05:02<enyc>te7: for me, experimentation suggests "bluetoothctl power off"
05:02<enyc>te7: as above, with more info on tooling in use, others here or in a bluetooth channel may advise metter
05:02<enyc>better
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05:04<enyc>te7: both irc.oftc.net and irc.libera.chat have a #bluez channel -- You can find channels from https://netsplit.de/channels/ in any case!
05:04<stephen>hi guys, does anyone know how to use anbox on debian11?
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05:43<boris>why to logout i must double make action? any man-in-middle attack?
05:43<boris>under root no this buggyshit!!!
05:44<boris>what number of port it sits on?
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05:45<petn-randall>boris: What are you talking about?
05:46<boris>petn-randall, can you read?
05:46<boris>or just talk?
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05:47<boris>ok, lets talk!
05:48<te7>enyc: "bluetoothctl power off" works for me. So I'm using it in xstartup.
05:48<boris>bla-bla-bla, all you need is shit!
05:49<te7>one last thing.. but does it happen to others too? To understand if it is a bug or an intended work.
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05:51<petn-randall>boris: This isn't a chat channel. Do you have a Debian support question?
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05:51<petn-randall>Or not.
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06:38<texou>hi
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06:41<texou>I upgraded Thunderbird, and now it is in English, while the localization package is installed. Why?
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06:43<bentham>I bet you can install many different language packages at the same time. Which one would it use?
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06:50<texou>I installed l10n-fr
06:50<texou>and it is the only one installed in l10n for this package
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06:52<bentham>So then presumably you have English (US) and French languages installed.
06:52<bentham>So that leaves the question of how you tell Thunderbird to use one and not the other.
06:53<bentham>I don't use Thunderbird, but I would venture a guess that there is a setting, perhaps accessible from a UI menu, that offers this configuration option.
06:54<texou>I hope :) will search again
06:54<bentham>For example, in Firefox, this option is on the front page of the settings.
06:54<bentham>('General')
06:54<bentham>And Firefox and Thunderbird are both Mozilla products, so...
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07:01<grove>It's on the "General" tab under "Preferences" (in the main menu) in my thunderbird
07:01<grove>So in the same place that bentham pointed to
07:03<bentham>Parenthetically, it would be great if Debian would be able to know the locale from the system's locale settings, automatically install the correct l10n packages, and automatically configure the Mozilla packages to use those languages as part of a postinst hook or something.
07:04<bentham>That way, users who are not en_us can avoid needing to know how to use an en_us interface.
07:04<bentham>Maybe this already works; it seems obvious enough.
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07:26<mosasaur>would this help me in any way to convince my german laptop, that, while remaining culturally sensitive, I'm actually operating it via an USB keyboard with an US layout?
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07:58<spawacz>Can multiple users play sound at the same time? It seems that i can run as many "sound outputting" programs such as cmus, firefox, some game in wine but ONLY as long as it is the same user
07:58<spawacz>when i start music as my main user and on other tty login special user for gaming, then i get n osund there
07:58<spawacz>when i shut down music on the main user, the gaming user gets sound
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08:00<spawacz>it happens for every program, even speaker test
08:01<spawacz>something playing on other user = other uses sgets no sound
08:01<spawacz>users*
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08:24<another>sound daemons usually run on user level
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08:41<petn-randall>texou: Thunderbird should be pulling the locale from the environment. Is everything else in french for you?
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08:42<spawacz>another: How to debug t hat?
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08:45<zoke>you can start by ckecking what env thunderbird has set
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08:46<zoke>check /proc/${TBIRDPID}/environ
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08:51<spawacz>i meant the sound issue ;p
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08:51<qman>I'm having an issue with name resolution on a fresh debian bullseye install - dig resolves just fine, search domains and nsswitch are configured as expected, but ping/ssh/curl/etc can't resolve. https://paste.debian.net/1226269/
08:52<qman>they resolve other names fine, though
08:53<petn-randall>qman: What does `getent hosts <name>` return for you?
08:53<qman>for those two names, nothing
08:54<qman>for the name that CNAME points at, I get the ipv6 address
08:54<qman>so maybe that's the issue?
08:54<qman>but doesn't solve for the first one
08:55<qman>oh, it does
08:55<qman>the first one appends the name automatically, if I ping salt. it works
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08:57<qman>https://paste.debian.net/1226271/
08:57<qman>I would think that should work
08:57<qman>or, it should at least give me a timeout or something, it should resolve
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09:00<petn-randall>qman: I'm guessing that you have something in /etc/hosts with the same names?
09:00<qman>nope, just default install stuff, my local hostname
09:00<qman>I think it's because it's a CNAME, something is going wrong
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09:03<qman>yeah, that's 100% it, I changed it to an A record and it works fine
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09:14<qman>my assumption is that because the CNAME's target's A record wasn't in the additional section, it failed to resolve, even though that record resolves fine if I query it
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09:25<bentham>I abhor how imagemagick insists on being my image viewer. It is ugly AF.
09:25<bentham>I'd like to use anything else. I guess mirage will do.
09:25<bentham>But imagemagick-6.q16 is useful, since it provides convert. I cannot just uninstall it.
09:26<bentham>However, it messes with my /etc/mailcap, which isn't fair.
09:26<bentham>How can I prevent this going forward?
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09:36<mosasaur>use eye of gnome (eog), do something with "open with", set it to the default
09:36<bentham>I guess I can do: ln -s mirage.desktop 00-mirage.desktop
09:36<bentham>mosasaur: I don't use gnome.
09:37<mosasaur>me neither
09:37<bentham>(the DE)
09:38<bentham>it does appear that xdg preferences the entry in /usr/share/applications that appears first in alphabetical order, hence my symlink idea
09:38<mosasaur>I'm using some kind of lxde with the desktop manager disabled, then letting nemo (a nautilus clone) handle it
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09:39<bentham>*nod* That sounds feasible. I'd rather not go down the path of installing software I won't use (in this case, nautilus) to handle things.
09:40<bentham>I mean, isn't this what xdg-mime is supposed to make easy?
09:42<mosasaur>I'm using xdf-mime stuff to let my terminal open urls via a python script, like sometimes it delegated to tor browser but for images it calls feh, youtube handlers, twitter redirects etc.
09:42<mosasaur>xdg
09:43<ryguymcflyguy>Hi, never used IRC before so forgive me if I mess things up. Has anyone had success getting Debian ARM64 and i386 running on an AMD64 machine using QEMU? I spent far too long trying and have had no luck.
09:43<bentham>mosasaur: That sounds like a useful tool.
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09:44<mosasaur>it's something I wrote myself, update it all the time still
09:44<bentham>mosasaur: does it live somewhere public? Would you mind sharing?
09:46<mosasaur>I suppose I could clean it up a little
09:46<spawacz>ryguymcflyguy: virtual machine, chroot?
09:46<spawacz>i got both working
09:46<mosasaur>as it is now, even the tools it calls are modifications to other python scripts
09:46<spawacz>(even tho i prefer chroot)
09:47<ryguymcflyguy>I followed these tutorials: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Qemu
09:47<bentham>mosasaur: I believe it. I personally find it difficult to separate the modifications I create from the systems in which they are embedded.
09:48<spawacz>as far as i remember you need to user debootstrap to create arm64 chroot, then qemu-system-static is required to chroot into
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09:48<bentham>Anyway, I'd be interested to see even a non-functioning version to get a sense of how it works.
09:48<ryguymcflyguy>Had partial success last night with ARM64, got the Debian installer working, and even logged into an ARM64 VM. I installed GCC as root, but when I tried to used it I got logged out. When I tried to start the VM again, it took me to the installer. Couldn't get back to the actual operating system no matter what combination of keywords I used.
09:49<spawacz>do you need a virtual machine or a chroot will do?
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09:49<ryguymcflyguy>I've no idea what chroot is, sorry. The only time I recall using that is when I tried to install Arch Linux. That was not a fun day.
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09:51<ryguymcflyguy>For the sake of completeness, I'm writing an implementation of libm for fun. Works on AMD64 so far. I wanted to check other architectures.
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09:51<spawacz>sudo debootstrap --arch=arm64 stable /path/to/install
09:52<spawacz>then, "sudo chroot /path/to/install"
09:52<spawacz>if it does not work, you need qemu-user-static package
09:53<mosasaur>bentham: https://paste.debian.net/1226284/ not taking any responsibility for this :P
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09:54<bentham>mosasaur: thanks :)
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09:57<ryguymcflyguy>spawacz: trying that now. Thanks! Does this work with all supported architectures for Debian Bullseye?
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09:59<spawacz>it should
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09:59<spawacz>i tried many and didnt run into major issues
10:00<ryguymcflyguy>Logged in, I got this: root@ryans-cotg:/# lscpu lscpu: cannot open /proc/cpuinfo: No such file or directory
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10:02<spawacz>of course, bind mounts are missing
10:03<spawacz>exit the chroot and enter these 3 lines:
10:03<spawacz>sudo mount /dev/ /path/to/chroot/dev
10:03<spawacz>sudo mount /sys/ /path/to/chroot/sys
10:04<spawacz>sudo mount /proc/ /path/to/chroot/proc
10:04<spawacz>then, chroot inside
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10:04<spawacz>oh, forgot --bind
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10:04<spawacz>sudo mount --bind /dev/ /path/to/chroot/dev
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10:06<zoke>seems like 'systemd-nspawn -D /path/to/chroot/' would be easier
10:07<ryguymcflyguy>Alrighty, it says aarch64. apt-get install gcc gives about 100 errors. All about certificate unknown and not trusted.
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10:12<JordiGH>Looking for anyone who uses Firefox and compiz on stable to see if they can at least repro my problem.
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10:16<spawacz>ryguymcflyguy: can you paste the error? I'm not expert but I'll take a look
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10:17<ryguymcflyguy>The error went away after following this link: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1095266/apt-get-update-failed-because-certificate-verification-failed-because-handshake
10:17<ryguymcflyguy>I did: apt-get install ca-certificates
10:19<spawacz>hmm do you have /debootstrap inside your root directory?
10:19<ryguymcflyguy>There is a /debootstrap directory, yes.
10:19<spawacz>i recall that for foreign architectures you had to run debootstrap --second-stage from inside chroot
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10:19<spawacz>i cant find the guide
10:20<spawacz>but if it's gone then chroot is usable
10:21<ryguymcflyguy>Hey, it worked!!! aarch64 and amd64 implement long double differently (amd64 is extended precision, aarch64 uses quadruple precision). I just ran the build for the library, and it thinks long double is in the aarch64 style. I'm guessing it's working!
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10:22<ryguymcflyguy>This is a really neat tool, thanks for sharing!
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10:22<spawacz>enjoy :)
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10:24<spawacz>the quemu translation has some cost to it, you can crosscompile natively (host amd64, target arm64) by supplying sysroot path, and then just paste resulting binaries into chroot and run them there
10:24<spawacz>but that's bit more complicated
10:25<spawacz>inside chroot (the way it's now) it just works out of the box
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10:26<ryguymcflyguy>There were premade QEMU images (people.debian.org/something/aurel I think was the person who had them). But they were for Debian Jessie. Couldn't install anything. I'm guessing Jessie can't connect to Debian's repositories? They worked perfectly, but had no C compiler.
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10:26<spawacz>it's pretty old ;p
10:26<spawacz>but you dont need a full virtualization for this task
10:27<ryguymcflyguy>I also tried the Debian Cloud Images, and actually got it running, but it asked for a username and password and I had no idea what to type.
10:27<ryguymcflyguy>A final question. Is this not a VM? What is it, then?
10:27<spawacz>you would only suffer more slwodown
10:27<spawacz>this is not a vm
10:27<spawacz>chroot = "change root"
10:27<ryguymcflyguy>How does it emulate ARM64 on an AMD64 machine?
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10:28<spawacz>using qemu user more
10:28<spawacz>mode
10:28<spawacz>it allows to translate a binary for other architecture on the fly
10:28<spawacz>what's happening here is /bin/bash inside the chroot is emulated using qemu (check htop from host)
10:29<ryguymcflyguy>Ahh, so is it kinda like WINE in a sense?
10:29<spawacz>hmm yes
10:29<spawacz>not chroot, but qemu under the hood
10:29<spawacz>is doign all the translation
10:29<spawacz>chroot itself if very helpful for fixing linux from usb, for example
10:30<spawacz>allows you to change root ( / ) directory
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10:32<ryguymcflyguy>Good to know. I somehow destroyed my last Debian installation. No idea how. Last thing I did was add contrib to sources.list and install lutris. When I rebooted, black screen with blinking cursror. I used a Debian Live usb to boot and copy all of my stuff to another disk, and then nuked it and reinstalled.
10:34<RoyK>spawacz: running another arcitechture is a vm, right?
10:34<RoyK>or is this a userspace hack?
10:34<spawacz>i dont understand
10:34<spawacz>you can run different architecture in chroot, you can also run a vm
10:34<spawacz>former is faster, less isolated, latter is slower but more isolated
10:35<RoyK>spawacz: well, you use qemu to run something, that's usually called a vm
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10:35<spawacz>that's qemu-system
10:35<spawacz>qemu-user works differently
10:35<RoyK>ah
10:35<spawacz>but that's where my knoeledeg on the topic ends, i jsut know how to use them
10:36<spawacz>you can ask on qemu channel
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10:37<RoyK>hm… perhaps I can run octopi on x86/x64? not that I need to, but it'd be fun if worked, just for testing
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10:46<spawacz>zoke: I missed you message. It might even be easier becaue it creates local /proc and stuff, right?
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10:52<zoke>spawacz: it does all the bind mounts for you
10:52<ryguymcflyguy>Anything special about the --bind keyword? To unmount, just sudo umount /path/to/chroot/dev/ >
10:52<ryguymcflyguy>?
10:53<zoke>ryguymcflyguy: --bind just adds an already mounted location in yet another location
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10:53<ryguymcflyguy>After sudo mount --bind /deve/ /path/to/chroot/dev is there any need to now unmount?
10:53<ryguymcflyguy>Once done, I mean.
10:54<zoke>easier than doing 'mount -t proc proc /path/to/chroot/proc' etc...
10:54<zoke>once done you should umount the binds
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11:22<spawacz>actually the systemd-nspawn -D /path/to/chroot is even simpler than chroot
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11:38<JordiGH>Still looking for a Firefox + compiz user to see if they can repro.
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12:18<johnw>I have a problem where if I hold down my escape key for too long and then press super while holding escape, keyboard input freezes. It only happens when I hold it down for longer than 1 or 2 seconds. It happens with escape and caps lock, which I remapped to escape. I still have mouse input but no keyboard input
12:19<johnw>anyone know how to keep this from happening or at least reverse it when it does happen?
12:19<johnw>The only thing I can do is hop into a tty and restart x
12:20<bremner>nothing in the X logs?
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12:20<johnw>how would I check those?
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12:21<johnw>xorg.1.log?
12:21<bremner> /var/log/Xorg.{0,1,2}.log
12:21<bremner>yes
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12:25<johnw>nothing jumps out at me in the logs
12:26<bremner>what window manager / DE is this, gnome?
12:26<johnw>no errors or warnings
12:26<johnw>im using bspwm
12:27<johnw>I still have mouse input, but no keyboard input
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12:27<johnw>and i have keyboard input when im in a tty, just not in graphical session
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12:35<johnw>any ideas?
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12:39<bremner>Can you reproduce it in a different window manager?
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12:39<johnw>maybe, but Id like to avoid installing a seperate wm if i can help it
12:40<johnw>im also using sxhkd as my hotkey daemon is that helps anything
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12:41<bremner>maybe. I don't know what it is, but try eliminating it.
12:42<mosasaur>maybe xinput can help. There is also something that shows what and if you push a key, but I forgot the command
12:43<bremner>xev
12:43<mosasaur>right
12:44<johnw>so do i just run xev in a tty and see if it registers my keyboard input?
12:45<mosasaur>maybe DISPLAY=:0 xev
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12:46<mosasaur>oh it has its own display parameter
12:47<johnw>do I have to be in a graphical session?
12:47<mosasaur>yes
12:48<johnw>okay Ill try that and I will think about trying to reproduce the issue in a different wm
12:48<johnw>thanks
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14:26<surge>so, just installed latest debian 11 from 'extra-firmware' disk... apt is still winging about certificates during update. where are the old keys to put in apt-key?
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14:27<sney>what message are you seeing exactly? debian 11 should install with all certificates it needs
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14:30<surge>..tries to manage laptop in front of terminal balanced on his lap after a major groin operation... uhm...
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14:31<surge>cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 11.2.0 _Bullseye_ - Unofficial amd64 DVD Binary-1 "N: updating from such a repository... bla bla", "and is therefor disabled by default"
14:32<surge>\o/
14:33<sney>you redacted the part of the error that says what the actual problem is, but anyway,
14:33<sney>that is your dvd image. so the likely issue is that your system clock is wrong.
14:35<surge>hmm. hello 'hmmmm'?
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14:36<surge>its crap about the cer- ugh. fine. make me go back to hospital...
14:36<surge>"cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 11.2.0 _Bullseye_ - Unofficial amd64 DVD Binary-1 "N: updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
14:37<bluesoul>certificates specify their own time window they're valid for, if your system thinks it's 1997 it's going to bonk
14:37<surge>no, certificates are not future proof, if your clock *knows* its 2021, it doesnt work after 2008.
14:38<surge>...some idiot NSA shit, but whatever. how to fix it?
14:38<sney>fix your clock
14:38<bluesoul>what does `date` say
14:38<surge>my clock is synced to atomic clocks.
14:39<surge>it says right now.
14:39<surge>one of the 1st things the installer does is install ntp
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14:40<surge>*sigh*
14:42<sney>if you have ntp, then you have a network connection? pastebin the whole output of 'apt update' as well as your sources.list
14:42<sney>!termbin
14:42<dpkg>you can paste to termbin.com from terminal with redirections: try 'nc termbin.com 9999 < /path/to/file', or 'command | nc termbin.com 9999'
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14:42<surge>im guessing thats a bot? '/path/to/file'?
14:44<sney>dpkg is a bot, and it just gave you examples to upload text from your computer to a service where you can share it here
14:44<dpkg>sney: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
14:44<sney>dpkg: bot
14:44<dpkg>I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
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14:44<sney>and /path/to/file is a general example, in this case we are looking for /etc/apt/sources.list
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14:48<surge>well, yeah, im not wasting time with that. its whatever the installer made. you should already know its contents.
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14:48<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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14:50<bluesoul>"how to fix" "do these things" "no bye"
14:50<bluesoul>personally i am crushed
14:50<sney>lol
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15:17<elperson>Hello, I have a problem. For some reason when I start up my pc it doesn't boot into KDE anymore and its just a small terminal cursor in the top-left corner of the screen
15:18<crow>nvidia card?
15:18<elperson>Also right now I am using `nomodeset` as that is the only way of accessing my PC without it showing the cursor
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15:18<sussudio>oh you again.
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15:18<elperson>cr0w RAdeon
15:19<cr0w>Okay. I have the same problem if I install the proprietary drivers for my nvidia
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15:20<elperson>I suppose I might've broken something while attempting to install amdgpu-pro opencl drivers from 2017
15:20<elperson>because the dkms one didnt want to install
15:21<cr0w>I don't know. I was taking the chance it was the same issue. I'm no pro.
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15:22<cr0w>if you can ctl alt f2 and log in and apt purge that driver. That's what I did.
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15:45<somebody>Hello, I have Debian 10 installed. Today I tried to boot and the screen remains in black. I noticed, that when I open the boot options in GRUB with `e` -- without changing them -- and only press F10 to boot, I can start normally and use my computer. Is there a difference between `Enter` and `e+f10`?
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15:46<crow>Maybe safe graphics?
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15:47<somebody>@cr0w: you mean something like nomodeset? This option was not set. I thought that the options/boot script should be the same as pressing enter.
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15:48<cr0w>Yes. I'm not sure what f10 calls but I was thinking maybe a safe video driver. You wouldn't happen to have a nvidia card (I had the same problem).
15:49<somebody>@crow: F10 shall be "execute" or "start" or something like this.
15:49<somebody>I have an AMD graphics card.
15:50<cr0w>Oh, hmm... My ignorance. Yeah, that's not it. Can you ctl alt f2 on the blank screen and log in?
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15:51<somebody>I tried several Fx keys, but I'm not sure that I tried F2. F7 for sure, but F2 I'm not sure.
15:52<somebody>(I mean I tried Ctrl+Alt+F7)
15:52<cr0w>Any but F1 (and I think Ubuntu is F7). Got it.
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15:52<somebody>So no need to give it a try?
15:53<cr0w>Just try to get past the blank screen and to a terminal. It's an old Unix function to do ctl alt f2, you should get a prompt.
15:53<cr0w>Log in and try reinstalling the video driver.
15:53<somebody>Okay. I will give it a try. I will return in a couple of minutes. Thanks for your support!
15:54<cr0w>No problem :)
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15:54<somebody>Oh, since the computer is now running (with the `e+F10` procedure). Could I check which graphics driver is currently used?
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15:56<cr0w>opps, stepped afk. Yes, that's a great idea. Duh, me.
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16:00<blast007>somebody: if you're using an AMD card, I would recommend enabling the non-free repository and installing the firmware-amd-graphics
16:01<blast007>the firmware-amd-graphics package*
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16:02<somebody>@blast007: This is already installed.
16:03<blast007>and you're still having black screen issues?
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16:04<blast007>oh, and I just noticed you said "Today", so it worked before and just started happening?
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16:05<somebody>Yes. I had this installed for a long time now. Yesterday the computer worked fine. Then I installed some updates (including kernels) and there were some questions, that the repository type was changed from "stable" to "oldstable". I assume it is somehow connected to this. But I thought I already booted successfully after these upgrades.
16:05<blast007>maybe a kernel update broke something
16:05<blast007>you should have the previous kernel as an option in GRUB, perhaps behind a sub-menu
16:05<somebody>You got the same idea. :-)
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16:06<somebody>Yes, the .16 is still there. But there I have the same issue when only pressing "Enter" in GRUB.
16:06<blast007>as for the difference between just letting it boot and hitting e and F10, one would *think* that wouldn't make a difference, but I've seen weirder things with computers :)
16:07<somebody>Me too. :-)
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16:07<somebody>I will give the suggestion by @cr0w a try to see if I can open the login shell with Alt+Ctrl+F2.
16:07<somebody>I'll be back in a couple of minutes with a report.
16:08<cr0w>Yes, or just go in how it works and remove that amd driver "apt purge"
16:08<blast007>what AMD driver?
16:08<cr0w>If it's the same as what happened to me that will put it back to nouveau
16:09<blast007>nouveau is for nVidia, not AMD
16:09<somebody>So "apt purge firmware-amd-graphics" followed by "apt install firmware-amd-graphics"?
16:09<cr0w>Okay.
16:09<blast007>firmware-amd-graphics isn't a driver either, it's just firmware
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16:10<somebody>Okay. See you soon. :-)
16:10<cr0w>It's worth a shot. Maybe a module didn't get made right with the amd and new kernel.
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16:11<blast007>unlike the proprietary nvidia driver, a module doesn't have to get build by dkms, since the AMD driver is already open-source
16:11<blast007>it's part of the kernel already
16:12<cr0w>Ah, nice. It's either the kernel or the video driver.
16:13<blast007>certainly a weird issue
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16:13<cr0w>Yes. All the distros have crapped out on my legacy 390 NV.
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16:13<somebody>@cr0w and @blast007: Strangely now everything booted fine...
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16:14<cr0w>Debian I got to work last install. Trying again right now.
16:14<cr0w>Sweet!
16:14<somebody>I had at least 10 boot procedures where it failed. Maybe the installation of hexchat changed something. :-D
16:15<somebody>Thanks a lot for your effort helping me!
16:15<blast007>"crap, people are talking about me! I better start working." -the computer
16:15<cr0w>Go to the doctors office and you no longer feel sick.
16:15<cr0w>lol 007
16:15<somebody>*g*
16:16<somebody>"I will show you my problem --- oh, where is it?" I often enough experiences this from the other side. :-D
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16:17<cr0w>We're gonna find out in a few minutes if I have to take all these tips myself. Nvidia legacy 390 installing now...
16:18<cr0w>19 seconds...
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16:28<crow>Sweet. Back already with an accelerated graphics card and fully functioniing, but sadly proprietay driver.
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17:23<aindilis>hi I'm on Debian 11 and I get some weird behavior where uxterm doesn't update or is missing rectangular regions when it does
17:23<aindilis>I seem to be on X11 at least XDG_SESSION_TYPE == x11
17:23<aindilis>any ideas?
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17:28<aindilis>if anyone could just tell me what this phenomenon is called, I could search for it and fix it myself, but I don't really know how to describe it
17:28<aindilis>if I'm in Emacs and hit Ctrl-L one or more times it fixes/unfixes it
17:28<Habbie>"damage regions" come to mind
17:28<Habbie>but i barely know what i'm talking about
17:28<aindilis>kk
17:28<aindilis>ty!
17:29<Habbie>and, related, i wonder if the bad rectangles have overlapping windows, even if they're sitting behind uxterm
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17:34<aindilis>Habbie: ty! I just moved /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /root and restarted gdm, seems okay now
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17:36<aindilis>I seem to have multiple versions of nvidia driver installed :( but at least it "works" now. TY! what a load off my mind.
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17:41<Habbie>aindilis, ok!
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20:14<earendel>when i use the debian installer and am being asked for a domain .. what should i enter?
20:15<dvs>earendel: you don't connect to the internet?
20:15<earendel>i do.
20:16<dvs>earendel: well, you can use "localdomain" if you don't want anything to connect to youll
20:16<dvs>s/youll/you/
20:18<bluesoul>if you don't have a local domain, LDAP or Active Directory or otherwise, yeah `localdomain` is usually a good call, it won't mean anything
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20:39<Karmavil>Hi sorry in which server is the Polari room?
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20:41<Karmavil>Gnome.
20:41<Karmavil>thank you anyway
20:41<sarnold>https://netsplit.de/channels/?chat=polari ..
20:42<sarnold>are you sure there is one?
20:42<sarnold>these guys don't have one indexed anyway :/
20:45<Sqrt{Not}>#polari at irc.gnome.org
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20:46<Sqrt{Not}>https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Polari
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20:47<sarnold>yay
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20:52<grummund>Hi, after installing xdm and xfce the machine still boots to a console, is there anything else to install to enable booting to the GUI login?
20:53<Sqrt{Not}>dpkg, no, polari is <reply>gnome's IRC client. https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Polari #polari at irc.gnome.org
20:53<dpkg>Sqrt{Not}: okay
20:55<sney>grummund: if xorg is installed, you may want to make sure the xdm service is enabled. otherwise, check your X log and find out why it can't start.
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20:57<sarnold>grummund: maybe # systemctl set-default graphical.target ? I got that from https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Installation_Guide/sect-trouble-after-graphical-login.html -- even though that's pretty ancient fedora, it's probably reasonable enough
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20:59<grummund>sney, sarnold: thanks. xorg was not installed.
20:59<sney>np
20:59<sarnold>d'oh :)
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21:01*sney resets the "days since someone disabled recommends and ended up with missing functionality" counter
21:03<grummund>would have made more sense to apt-get install task-desktop, that's the real issue.
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21:09<Karmavil>Hi Sqrt, yes the Gnome network has it
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21:11<Karmavil>@sarnold Nice thx! that answers one of the questions I did there.
21:12<sarnold>woot
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21:14<test>hello
21:14<test>any one here ?
21:15<Karmavil>hello test
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21:15<test>hi
21:15<raven523>test passwd?
21:15<dvs>!test
21:15<dpkg>Test failed.
21:15<Karmavil>lol
21:15<test>im trying to figure out why when i use wondershaper using down speed and up speed limitation
21:15<test>it limitates only download
21:16<test>upload is unlimited unshaped...
21:16<test>any one can help ?
21:16<Karmavil>not me
21:16<sarnold>there may be better tools than wondershaper
21:16<test>sarnold: yes ?
21:17<sarnold>twenty years ago it was pretty fantastic, but it might be better to use fq-codel or whatever it is..
21:17<sarnold>https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/ oooh, maybe I'm out of date here :) "The cake algorithm (and its predecessors CoDel and fq_codel algorithms) ..."
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21:21<test>sarnold: it wont work for me ,
21:21<sarnold>dang
21:21<test>need to figure out why wondershaper is not doing the job there
21:22<test>./etc/wondershaper/wondershaper -a ppp2 -d 1024 -u 1024
21:22<test>the command looks ok,
21:22<test>but..
21:22<test>no luck
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21:28<test>hm
21:28<sarnold>test: I have a vague memory of reading that the way the tc stuff works is in buckets every N seconds or something..
21:28<sarnold>test: .. and that fast bursts might take a bit to be clamped
21:29<sarnold>test: how long were these uploads going?
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21:36<test>the problem is only when im trying to shape ppp interface
21:37<test>when i set limitation on phisical interface example lan1 or lan2
21:37<test>all is working ok
21:37<sarnold>oh, nice
21:37<sarnold>weird though :/
21:37<sarnold>I would expect ppp to be identical ... is your ppp interface a pppoe on a different NIC? or is it a modem?
21:38<test>sarnold: lan1 is my wan
21:38<test>and lan2 is local
21:38<test>and there is ppp set
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22:09<Karmavil>Q: is there a network admin for all the rooms in Debian Servers? How manage the nickserv?
22:09<Karmavil>Who* sorry
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22:10<sney>this network is OFTC, not administered by debian, you can ask irc network questions in #oftc
22:10<sney>if you are just asking how to register a nick, you can type /msg nickserv help
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22:11<Karmavil>thank you. No it is because I think the nickserv need a little tweak
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