--- | Log | opened Tue Jan 11 00:00:10 2022 |
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01:38 | <r4fkramer> | Please, I need to fix this issue - I'm running debian bullseye 11.2: https://paste.debian.net/1226692/ |
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01:50 | <jm_> | r4fkramer: is it in uefi or legacy boot mode? |
01:51 | <r4fkramer> | jm- it is in legacy mode |
01:51 | <r4fkramer> | Well, thanks for answering, jm_ :) |
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01:52 | <trench> | jm_ tried booting from bios? |
01:52 | <jm_> | r4fkramer: in that case try reinstalling debian's grub to MBR and also run update-grub and verify arch linux is listed in grub.cfg |
01:52 | <r4fkramer> | yes, trench |
01:53 | <trench> | tried to write a boot line in grub? |
01:53 | <trench> | or change it? |
01:54 | <trench> | I have garuda and debian side by side and I have to boot garuda from bios |
01:55 | <trench> | or modify grub on the spot .. |
01:55 | <r4fkramer> | jm_ please, os-prober is already installed. Should I only use apt install --reinstall grub ? |
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01:56 | <r4fkramer> | trench, I did the change in grub file according https://paste.debian.net/1226692/ |
01:56 | <jm_> | r4fkramer: no, grub-install <device> i.e. /dev/sda or whichever device it is |
01:56 | <r4fkramer> | ok grub-install /dev/sda |
01:56 | <r4fkramer> | Correct ? |
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01:57 | <jm_> | well yes if that's the boot device |
01:58 | <r4fkramer> | Fine jm_ I gonna proceed now |
01:59 | <r4fkramer> | finished here jm_ No error reported |
01:59 | <r4fkramer> | I will reboot now and see if it is ok. Thank you very much for attention and Great Support, jm_ |
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01:59 | <jm_> | r4fkramer: verify grub.cfg too |
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02:01 | <trench> | i would have booted with a knoppix usb drive to check .. but that's just me :> |
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02:05 | <trench> | and? :> |
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02:05 | <r4fkramer> | Hi jm_ it didn't work - grub was reinstalled successfully, but arch linux is not listed on it, just debian |
02:06 | <trench> | r4fkramer: how did you install arch? |
02:06 | <trench> | r4fkramer: from the ground up? |
02:06 | <r4fkramer> | So, there are any issues related to Arch Linux installation - curiously it was installed successfully in virt-manager and booted fine |
02:07 | <jm_> | r4fkramer: like I said 3 times, have you verified if it's listed in grub.cfg on debian? |
02:07 | <r4fkramer> | trench, I installed using traditional method in command line |
02:07 | <jm_> | wait, what? virt-manager? |
02:07 | <r4fkramer> | Sorry jm_ In fact you really told me about it |
02:07 | <trench> | r4fkramer: are you in debian now? |
02:07 | <r4fkramer> | jm_ I installed Arch Linux twice: one installation in virt-manager and it was finished successfully |
02:08 | <r4fkramer> | and then I installed dual boot in real hardware - debian and arch linux |
02:08 | <r4fkramer> | two Arch Linux installation |
02:08 | <r4fkramer> | one in virtual machine and the other in real hardware |
02:08 | <r4fkramer> | yes, trench, |
02:08 | <r4fkramer> | debian bullseye 11.2 here |
02:09 | <trench> | how does your /boot/grub/grub.cfg look like? |
02:09 | <trench> | does it have arch? |
02:09 | <r4fkramer> | That's what jm_ told me to do and I forgot, just one moment, trench, I will access it now |
02:10 | <trench> | what does update-grub2 do? |
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02:11 | <trench> | Found Garuda Linux (Soaring) on /dev/sda7 that is what mine does :> |
02:13 | <r4fkramer> | trench, no mention about Arch in /boot/grub/grub.cfg - only about debian, no line about arch |
02:13 | <r4fkramer> | update-grub2 as a command ? |
02:13 | <trench> | yes |
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02:14 | <r4fkramer> | I haven't applied it yet, trench, just one moment, please, I will proceed now |
02:14 | <jm_> | does os-prober run when you run update-grub? |
02:14 | <r4fkramer> | Yes, jm_ |
02:14 | <r4fkramer> | Just one moment, please, let me update grub2 |
02:15 | <jm_> | update-grub2 is just a symlink |
02:15 | <trench> | yeah |
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02:16 | <r4fkramer> | Please trench and jm_ https://paste.debian.net/1226694/ |
02:17 | <trench> | do you have arch on sda4? |
02:17 | <jm_> | put your grub.cfg on paste site |
02:17 | <r4fkramer> | yes, it was installed successfully in /dev/sda |
02:18 | <r4fkramer> | I will take some time jm_, just one moment, please |
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02:25 | <r4fkramer> | Please jm_ and trench, that is the content of grub.cfg file: https://paste.debian.net/1226696/ |
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02:32 | <jm_> | looks like something is not right in os-prober, it says Found ... but then does not add entries to grub.cfg - I would debug /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober (it's a shell script) |
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02:32 | <nathan> | hello |
02:33 | <r4fkramer> | jm_ please, how do I run this script ? |
02:33 | <r4fkramer> | And where can I find it ? |
02:33 | <jm_> | r4fkramer: it's run when you run update-grub |
02:33 | <r4fkramer> | Oh, so it's already done and it didn't fixed this issue. |
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02:35 | <r4fkramer> | jm_ have you experienced similar issue before ? |
02:35 | <r4fkramer> | I really don't know how to proceed anymore. |
02:36 | <BenNZ> | r4fkramer: grub doesnt add entries from os-prober by default anymore |
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02:36 | <jm_> | r4fkramer: no, it works for me with windows |
02:36 | <r4fkramer> | BenNZ fine, but I really can't understand why it is happening |
02:37 | <BenNZ> | r4fkramer: add GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false to /etc/default/grub then run update-grub again |
02:37 | <r4fkramer> | jm_ I see, I have similar dual boot here (Windows 10 for my son) and it works fine |
02:37 | <jm_> | BenNZ: seeing as how it says Found ... on it means it's not disabled for r4fkramer |
02:38 | <r4fkramer> | BeNZ I added this line before to /etc/default/grub but it didn't work. Well, I did it without updateing grub2 - perhaps it will work now |
02:39 | <r4fkramer> | jm_ amd BenNZ I used this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/Grub |
02:39 | <jm_> | i'd stick "set -x" in shell script and go from there, but you'd need to understand os-prober, grub and shell :) |
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02:40 | <jm_> | as an alternative, you could add grub entries to create boot entry for arch to /etc/grub.d/40_custom |
02:41 | <r4fkramer> | jm_ it means: I will have to study harder to be able to fix this issue.... |
02:41 | <r4fkramer> | No worries about it. The problem is: what to read |
02:45 | <r4fkramer> | jm_ It seems like a lot of work to be able to boot an OS - I won't waste my time on this jm_ - if it was something necessary to run GRUB correctly I would; but I don't have the same appreciation for Arch Linux. |
02:45 | <r4fkramer> | It seems to me that this is a technical failure of the Arch installation process in dual boot with another Linux OS, because in a virtual machine or when I install it alone on a HD this does not happen. |
02:45 | <r4fkramer> | The Arch installation process is more manual - but that doesn't mean everything works in the end, like what happened here. |
02:45 | <r4fkramer> | So I'll leave it there. |
02:46 | <r4fkramer> | jm_ anyway, thank you very much for attention and great support !:) |
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02:46 | <r4fkramer> | BenNZ and trench, thank you very much you too for attention and great support !:) |
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02:47 | <r4fkramer> | See you :) |
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03:48 | <H4ndy> | Does someone know if there's a way to save bookmarks in lftp that are available to all users? By default, bookmarks are user-specific and saved in ~/.local |
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05:11 | <at0m> | H4ndy: is there an /etc/lftp/ ? |
05:11 | <H4ndy> | No, there is only /etc/lftp.conf which holds global settings but not bookmarks |
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05:26 | <H4ndy> | I used a workaround with setting HOME in the script to redirect lftp home to a shared folder but it's not great |
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06:22 | -!- | user is "user" on #debian |
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06:23 | <Guest230> | RTFM! |
06:23 | <Guest230> | i cannot stress it enough |
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06:26 | <Guest230> | boring |
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08:12 | <jpoc> | Client: HexChat 2.14.2 • OS: Debian 10.11 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2320 CPU @ 3.00GHz (2,33GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7,6 Gio Total (4,4 Gio Free) Swap: 10,9 Gio Total (10,7 Gio Free) • Storage: 1,5 To / 3,7 To (2,3 To Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 620 OEM] @ Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller • Uptime: 6d 3h 18m 8s |
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08:16 | <bremner> | jpoc: please fix your client settings not to do that |
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08:24 | <_ReVoLt_> | hello |
08:25 | <_ReVoLt_> | anyone feels good with mysql ? |
08:25 | <azeem> | this is a Debian support channel |
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08:27 | <_ReVoLt_> | [Warning] Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) ... ? |
08:28 | <Wulf> | _ReVoLt_: add "-p" to the command line, then enter your password |
08:30 | <_ReVoLt_> | Wulf: what would be lokok full command ? |
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08:30 | <Wulf> | _ReVoLt_: mariadb -p |
08:30 | <_ReVoLt_> | but i dont like use mariadb -p |
08:30 | <Wulf> | _ReVoLt_: why not? |
08:31 | <_ReVoLt_> | the problem is when i do /etc/init.d/mariadb status |
08:31 | <_ReVoLt_> | whole lines are |
08:31 | <_ReVoLt_> | like i pasted |
08:32 | <Wulf> | _ReVoLt_: consider setting up authentication through unix socket |
08:32 | <_ReVoLt_> | Wulf: i done what You write and still get 2022-01-11 14:30:05 40 [Warning] Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
08:32 | <Wulf> | _ReVoLt_: "using password: NO" means there is a password, but you're not entering one. |
08:32 | <_ReVoLt_> | realy. |
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08:33 | <_ReVoLt_> | so i need to change it somewhere |
08:33 | <_ReVoLt_> | bcouse i changed user and password what was before. |
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08:33 | <Wulf> | _ReVoLt_: your mariadb root account shouldn't have a password at all. |
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08:34 | <_ReVoLt_> | Wulf: it has. |
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08:34 | <_ReVoLt_> | Wulf: there is a password setted\ |
08:34 | <Wulf> | _ReVoLt_: remove it, configure auth through unix socket instead. |
08:34 | <_ReVoLt_> | Wulf: where to start ? |
08:35 | <Wulf> | _ReVoLt_: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/authentication-plugin-unix-socket/ |
08:41 | <_ReVoLt_> | Wulf: can i check how is it now configurated ? |
08:41 | <_ReVoLt_> | Wulf: to not make more mass |
08:41 | <_ReVoLt_> | ? |
08:42 | <Wulf> | _ReVoLt_: sure. Log in to mariadb with your root account and analyze the contents of the "mysql" database. |
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08:43 | <_ReVoLt_> | Wulf: going to MariaDB [(none)]> help |
08:43 | <_ReVoLt_> | Wulf: i cant see anything what i could do much |
08:44 | <Wulf> | _ReVoLt_: means you don't have any idea what you're doing there? |
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08:44 | <Wulf> | _ReVoLt_: go find some friend or tutorial to get you started |
08:46 | <preston> | Is "failure to update metadata for lvfs" a known issue? |
08:47 | <preston> | I am new to debian and everything else has gone well I and just experiencing a couple update and gnome software issues |
08:47 | <_ReVoLt_> | Wulf: |
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09:18 | <koushik> | Hi everyone |
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09:50 | <hays> | any advi ce on how one might version bump a package building from source in a .deb? |
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09:51 | <hays> | i tried unarring the source over the existing src tree and i got some kind of manifest problem or missing files |
09:53 | <bremner> | hays: you might get better help in #packaging |
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09:54 | <bremner> | see also !ssb |
09:55 | <bremner> | !ssb |
09:55 | <dpkg> | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) apt update; apt install build-essential; apt build-dep packagename 4) apt -b source packagename 5) dpkg -i packagename-ver.deb To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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09:58 | <hays> | !uupdate |
09:58 | <dpkg> | uupdate (in the <devscripts> package) upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get source foo; wget -nd http://foo.org/foo-1.4.tar.gz; cd foo-1.2; uupdate ../foo-1.4.tar.gz Ask me about <package recompile>. |
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10:13 | <hays> | !package recompile |
10:13 | <dpkg> | 1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) apt update; apt install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; apt build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us 6) as root, apt install ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>, <nocheck>, <nostrip>, <apt-get source>. |
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10:23 | <hays> | cool. I got it to work. i couldnt' figure out what the deal was with the patches, which all failed. but it looks like it at least builds without them |
10:26 | <azeem> | often patches are cherry-picked from the upcoming release and then no longer apply when the next version is released |
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10:30 | <hays> | dang. "missing files" |
10:30 | <hays> | ah well |
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10:41 | <arinov> | seems many apps for flow charts outdated, what actually people use now? |
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13:10 | <psychotron> | hello, I am trying to configure one seat and two vts |
13:10 | <psychotron> | with lightdm |
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13:11 | <psychotron> | I would like to know how to configure the vt7 and vt8 on the same user |
13:12 | <psychotron> | Am I on the wrong channel? |
13:12 | <psychotron> | I lost my libera account password |
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13:13 | <enigma9o7[m]> | Are those vt7/vt8 things related to debian? If so, I'd say yes. |
13:13 | <bremner> | assuming you want to do this on debian, then no you are not on the wrong channel |
13:13 | <enigma9o7[m]> | I mean I'd say no. |
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13:13 | <psychotron> | the information is so old and scattered on pages |
13:14 | <bremner> | psychotron: you want two different login sessions with the same user, not just e.g. workspaces in a window manager? |
13:15 | <psychotron> | two different desktops |
13:15 | <PrOcToLoGiSt> | looks like i am stuck with broken packages https://dpaste.com/HNBDD7RAH and cant seem to be able to fix this. Any suggestions ? |
13:15 | <psychotron> | same user |
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13:16 | <psychotron> | like vt7 lxqt-compiz; vt8 cinnamon-session |
13:17 | <bremner> | PrOcToLoGiSt: I guess you should not use dmo |
13:17 | <bremner> | !dmo |
13:17 | <dpkg> | We recommend against using deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because the they are poor in quality or for legal reasons. See http://deb-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm bullseye>, <dmm buster>. See also <dmm list>, <dmm mirrors>, <dmm pinning>, <why not dmm>, <dmm remove>. |
13:17 | <jmcnaught> | PrOcToLoGiSt: try removing gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad, it seems the problem is you are using packages from deb-multimedia which conflict with Debian packages. I agree it should not be used. |
13:17 | <psychotron> | I have bullseye installed |
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13:22 | <psychotron> | It tells me permission denied when I try to startx with vt8 |
13:23 | <psychotron> | someone told me to use lightdm to get it done |
13:24 | <psychotron> | once before I did get to sessions on one machine but I can't recall how |
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13:24 | <psychotron> | I think I had gdm then |
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13:26 | <psychotron> | corrention 2 sessions |
13:26 | <psychotron> | correction |
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13:28 | <psychotron> | in some config there is only [Seat*] |
13:28 | <psychotron> | I tried to put something in it and I got a blank screen with mouse |
13:29 | <psychotron> | Do I need /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
13:30 | <bremner> | psychotron: maybe start with https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/xorg_multiseat |
13:30 | <PrOcToLoGiSt> | solved guys @ bremner jmcnaught. Sometimes you're the best. |
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13:30 | <bremner> | although you are not exactly talking about the same case. |
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13:39 | <psychotron> | anyway hexchat icon showed my pin on my phone earlier |
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13:39 | <psychotron> | had to purge hexchat for security reasons |
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13:40 | <psychotron> | icon on the bar shows sometimes some things |
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13:41 | <psychotron> | why is the hexchat icon animated? |
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13:44 | <psychotron> | Is it because I had cyanogenmod on my phone? |
13:44 | <Sqrt{Not}> | psychotron, are you running debian on that phone? |
13:44 | <sussudio> | probably just means the nsa letting you know they're watching. |
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13:45 | <psychotron> | I can't deal with animated hexchat icon anymore |
13:46 | <psychotron> | using something else |
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13:49 | <psychotron> | Is it some kind of communication when the hexchat tray icon show some colors? |
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13:50 | <enigma9o7[m]> | you can change your hexchat tray icon in debian, its in your home folder |
13:50 | <psychotron> | I didn't touch the icon it went on by it self |
13:50 | <enigma9o7[m]> | ~/.config/hexchat/icons/tray_normal.png |
13:50 | <enigma9o7[m]> | If you don't like default, change it. |
13:51 | <psychotron> | I like something else now, and I am not saying what because you may try to animate that as well :) |
13:52 | <enigma9o7[m]> | you got me, that's exactly what i was planning |
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13:58 | <psychotron> | I lost my raspbian backups because I had to reinstall debian 3 times |
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13:59 | <psychotron> | I had working rasbian with dhcp server router |
14:00 | <psychotron> | the card broke to shaite |
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14:00 | <psychotron> | raspberry pi 3 is the shit |
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14:06 | <psychotron> | had some troubles with the repositories |
14:06 | <FLD> | a lot of SD cards are ill suited for use as a operating system disk |
14:07 | <Sqrt{Not}> | psychotron, this channel is for help with debian and questions about debian. There are other places for other problems. |
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14:10 | <psychotron> | why do the same bugs appear again on debian? |
14:11 | <enigma9o7[m]> | same as what? |
14:12 | <psychotron> | ACPI: \_SB_.LPC_.EC__.BAT1: Unable to dock! |
14:12 | <psychotron> | thinkpad X220 |
14:13 | <enigma9o7[m]> | if they appeared on new version the same as old version, i think its because you forgo tto submit a bug report, or werent clear enough in your report |
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14:14 | <psychotron> | I need to reattach the computer to dock to get usb ports working |
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14:14 | <psychotron> | after hibernate this happens |
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14:15 | <psychotron> | I think there is no thinkpad module now |
14:17 | <psychotron> | that report was old and not sent by me |
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14:24 | <Sqrt{Not}> | !next |
14:24 | <dpkg> | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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14:25 | <sussudio> | some people think this is twitter and people want to hear their inane internal monologue for some reason. |
14:26 | <tarzeau> | sussudio: remember tha pci, isa 8/16bit photo of yours? you don't have that with all the M2 connectors, do you? |
14:27 | <sussudio> | that was on geocities and hasn't been updated since |
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15:23 | <cousin_luigi> | Greetings. |
15:24 | <cousin_luigi> | Unsure how to set a particular regulatory domain for a wifi card. I assume it has to be set at boot time via some option module, but which one? |
15:25 | <sney> | looks like it's cfg80211 |
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15:55 | <cousin_luigi> | sney: Yes, I added ieee80211_regdom as option, but I still see "ath: Country alpha2 being used: 00" |
15:55 | <cousin_luigi> | Does the latter perhaps report what's in the eprom? |
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16:08 | <r4fkramer> | Hello everybody. After problems with installing Arch Linux, this issue appeared on the swap partition. Initially I thought it would be due to the lack of this UUID in fstab. But this swap partition UUID is there in fstab. So I don't know why I can't use 'swapoff -a && swapon -a' anymore Can someone please explain to me what happens and how to fix this problem? https://paste.debian.net/1226787/ |
16:10 | <sarnold> | hey r4fkramer; does 'blkid' show the uuid on your swap devices as you expect? |
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16:12 | <r4fkramer> | Hi sarnold. thanks for answering :), No sarnold: https://paste.debian.net/1226789/ |
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16:15 | <sarnold> | r4fkramer: ah it looks like you've only got one swap partition now. You can remove the UUID=b0bf9b93... line from your fstab |
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16:17 | <r4fkramer> | Fine sarnold, let me try it here |
16:18 | <r4fkramer> | IT worked fine here sarnold. Thanks for attention and Great Support ! I'd forgotten blkid command for checking |
16:18 | <sarnold> | r4fkramer: thankfully, the comments in the fstab remind me :) |
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16:19 | <r4fkramer> | yes, and only now after your Support I remembered about how to fix this issue related to swap. |
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16:20 | <r4fkramer> | Have you a good and Powerful 2022 sarnold, with lots of money, health and Linux !:) |
16:21 | <sarnold> | woohoo :) you too r4fkramer :) |
16:21 | <r4fkramer> | :) |
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16:37 | <enigma9o7[m]> | Okay so I've been trying to figure out how to use 4.19kernel from buster with bullseeye on an old 32-bit machine, and support updates. I finally got that sorted out and working right with /etc/apt/preferences and setting priority for linux-image-686 to 1001. |
16:37 | <enigma9o7[m]> | I'm now trying to do the same thing with linux-headers-686 and there is a problem... it conflicts with libc6-dev |
16:38 | <enigma9o7[m]> | It appears I cannot install the headers without removing libc6-dev, or downgrading libc to 2.28 but of course not going to do that as that would break everything.... |
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16:39 | <enigma9o7[m]> | So I guess this means that using the buster kernel won't work with bullseye, right? |
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16:42 | <amacater_> | No, don't do that |
16:42 | <amacater_> | !frankendebian |
16:42 | <dpkg> | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian and <reinstall> |
16:43 | <sney> | there might be an intermediate package on snapshot that would let it work, and allow you to keep the older kernel, but I would expect other problems to pop up if you're building modules for a buster kernel in bullseye |
16:43 | <amacater_> | Use the bullseye installer and bullseye - maybe, potentially, do an expert install. If you can't use pae, use the 686 kernel without pae |
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16:47 | <enigma9o7[m]> | interesting, i wasn't familiar with debian snapshot but found it now. thanks sney. |
16:48 | <sney> | !snapshot |
16:48 | <dpkg> | https://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. https://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
16:48 | <sney> | note the bit about package quality, any intermediate package you find was probably only ever in unstable |
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16:51 | <enigma9o7[m]> | hmmm if i download the 4.19 kernel source package from buster and run debuild on it from bullseye will that make me header package that is compatible? |
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16:54 | <blast007> | enigma9o7[m]: what CPU do you have that the bullseye kernel doesn't support? |
16:57 | <sussudio> | 6502 |
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17:43 | <somiaj> | Is the a cli utility that will copy an image (.png in this case) to the clipboard? |
17:43 | <somiaj> | (usually I just load it in firefox first) |
17:44 | <bremner> | I take it xclip only works for text? |
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17:45 | <somiaj> | I think this is also the old clipboard, not the new one (Which is I think what is needed for images) |
17:45 | <somiaj> | the joys of multiple clipboards.... |
17:47 | <blast007> | this worked for me (with Gnome on Xorg): xclip -selection clipboard -t image/png -i image.png |
17:47 | <blast007> | at least, I was able to paste into Libreoffice Writer |
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17:48 | <blast007> | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/30093/copy-image-from-command-line-to-clipboard another xclip example there in a bash script that detects the mime type of the image |
17:49 | <somiaj> | Fancy, though I think xset directly, thanks |
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17:53 | <somiaj> | Okay, scrot now copies the image to the clipboard |
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18:15 | <_ReVoLt_> | anyone here knowing mysql ? |
18:16 | <blast007> | !anyone |
18:16 | <dpkg> | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
18:16 | <_ReVoLt_> | ? |
18:16 | <tuxd3v_> | !dr. Fauci |
18:18 | <themill> | _ReVoLt_: it'd be great if we didn't have to go through the same thing every time |
18:18 | <_ReVoLt_> | each time is different one |
18:18 | <_ReVoLt_> | so |
18:19 | <_ReVoLt_> | themill: i would be nice You save Your thinkings for Your self. |
18:19 | <themill> | _ReVoLt_: no, each time you ask if anyone knows mysql and you get told to just ask your question, and each time you take 4 lines to say 1 sentence. Each of these things makes it harder to help you |
18:19 | <sussudio> | suddenly, ops. |
18:20 | <sarnold> | if only you had asked your question five minutes ago.. |
18:20 | <_ReVoLt_> | i dont wknow for what to ask |
18:21 | <_ReVoLt_> | im getting errors connecting to database |
18:21 | <_ReVoLt_> | when i do mysql status |
18:21 | <blast007> | what did you do to break it? |
18:21 | <_ReVoLt_> | i dont know. |
18:22 | <_ReVoLt_> | it does not matters |
18:22 | <_ReVoLt_> | need to repair to get it working |
18:22 | <_ReVoLt_> | [Warning] Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
18:22 | <_ReVoLt_> | debian-start[1156720]: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
18:22 | <sussudio> | isn't that the one you get when you don't remove a single line from the config file? |
18:22 | <blast007> | do you have anything in your databases? |
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18:23 | <_ReVoLt_> | blast007: yes. |
18:23 | <themill> | _ReVoLt_: is it 3 or 4 times now that you've asked this and people have helped you and you've ignored what they've said and then started back at the beginning again a few hours later. |
18:23 | <blast007> | keep your messages in this channel, _ReVoLt_ |
18:24 | <themill> | _ReVoLt_: have you noticed that people keep asking you exactly the same questions again and again? Please help people help you. |
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18:32 | <zoke> | that error message seem to suggest that a password is required |
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18:32 | <zoke> | try to run 'mysql -P' to trigger a password prompt |
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18:33 | <zoke> | s/-P/-p/ |
18:34 | <zoke> | capital -P is port... -p is password |
18:34 | <zoke> | so 'mysql -p' |
18:37 | <jhujhiti> | has anyone ever successfully used kernel-wedge who can give me some pointers? the docs are pretty thin. i don't seem to be able to actually get it to generate the kernel-image udeb. module packages work though... |
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18:41 | <zoke> | jhujhiti: did you check the readme on the salsa page? |
18:43 | <jhujhiti> | zoke: yep, that's primarily what i've been working from. it would be helpful if i had a complete working example, but i can't seem to figure out where the code used to generate the official d-i udebs lives |
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18:44 | <zoke> | most udebs have thier own git repos (at least the non kernel ones) |
18:45 | <jhujhiti> | oh! i think i just found it! https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux/-/tree/master/debian/installer |
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20:06 | <netflix> | BSD is dying |
20:08 | <tuxd3v> | you should know better |
20:09 | <sussudio> | do you have an actual debian-related question, kevin. |
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21:09 | <RoyK> | netflix: {citation-needed} |
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22:21 | <darkphysics> | HI! |
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22:28 | <Sqrt{Not}> | hi dark |
22:29 | * | enyc meows |
22:30 | * | Otter bumps enyc off the roof |
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22:56 | * | awal1 serves a bit of milk for enyc |
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23:02 | <mangodfruit> | hello all |
23:02 | <mangodfruit> | I have a questions please? |
23:02 | <raven523> | mangodfruit: please ask |
23:03 | <mangodfruit> | I am a newbie....I have tested ssh on 2 machines running on debian 10.11...I cannot find the private key and public key on .ssh folder on the home user folder |
23:04 | <mangodfruit> | is this normal? |
23:04 | <raven523> | that is normal. You don't have a key until you run ssh-keygen |
23:04 | <mangodfruit> | I though that the keys are generated automatically, when I don't generate them with ssh-genkey |
23:05 | <raven523> | I think that applies to server keys, not client keys |
23:05 | <mangodfruit> | but, I though that ssh uses symmetric and assymetric keys |
23:05 | <sussudio> | mine are in /etc/ssh |
23:05 | <raven523> | yes. It's required for the server. It's not required for the client |
23:06 | <raven523> | Some servers can require clients to provide a key, but by default, most don't require it |
23:07 | <mangodfruit> | I can see some keys in /etc/ssh as sussdio have suggested |
23:07 | <mangodfruit> | and this is on the client machine |
23:07 | <raven523> | those are that machine's server keys |
23:07 | <mangodfruit> | I have installed the ssh-server on both |
23:08 | <mangodfruit> | but there are both private and public keys |
23:08 | <mangodfruit> | ? |
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23:08 | <darkphysics> | Run ssh-keygen to generate your keys |
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23:09 | <raven523> | yes, those are the server keys, not the client keys |
23:09 | <raven523> | client keys go in ~/.ssh |
23:09 | <mangodfruit> | I did that exercise before....but I don't understand what is the difference between generating the keys manually and not connecting directly without generating them? |
23:11 | <Gerowen> | To connect using SSH keys, you first generate the keys on your client machine that you're using to log into the server from. You then have to publish the public half of your SSH key to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file of the user account you will be logging into on the server side. |
23:11 | <Gerowen> | You can do this with ssh-copy-id user@server . |
23:11 | <darkphysics> | All users of ssh need a unique private key. Your ssh-server has its own keys |
23:12 | <raven523> | users (clients) don't necessarily need a private key. They might use a passphrase or some other mechanism for authentication |
23:12 | <Gerowen> | raven523: Eeeeewwww, passwords, :p |
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23:15 | <mangodfruit> | ok....so in my case....since I have not generated a private key....knowing that both machines have ssh server installed .......it means the client is using its private key (which is found on /etc/ssh ? right? |
23:15 | <raven523> | client keys don't usually go in /etc/ssh |
23:16 | <raven523> | if you didn't put a client key in ~/.ssh or configure ~/.ssh/config or /etc/ssh/ssh_config to use a client key in /etc/ssh, then it will not use any client key |
23:16 | <mangodfruit> | I know....I have installed ssh-server on both...means that both have private keys on /etc/ssh |
23:17 | <raven523> | the ssh_host_* keys in /etc/ssh are the *server* keys, not *client* keys |
23:17 | <raven523> | SSH has both server and client keys. The server keys are used so the server can prove its identity and the client can verify it (just like the certificate in TLS/SSL) |
23:17 | <raven523> | The client key, which is optional, is what the client uses to prove its identity to the server |
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23:19 | <raven523> | by default, clients do not have keys, but some servers require a client key, and you can generate one if one doesn't exist with ssh-keygen |
23:19 | <mangodfruit> | ok...I got that...where I am confused....since I did not generate any keys on the client side....when I run ssh it connects directly ...how could this happen? so you are saying that the keys in /etc/ssh are not used by the client to connect to the server? |
23:19 | <Sqrt{Not}> | mangodfruit, in this case, think of the "server" as the distant computer, and the "client" as the person trying to log in to that computer |
23:19 | <raven523> | correcty |
23:20 | <raven523> | does it ask you for a password? |
23:20 | <mangodfruit> | yes |
23:20 | <raven523> | then it uses a password to verify the client's identity because it doesn't have a key |
23:21 | <mangodfruit> | only password! or does it also use the keys on /etc/ |
23:21 | <mangodfruit> | ? |
23:22 | <Sqrt{Not}> | if you set up the client's ssh key correctly, then you don't use passwords to login to the "server" anymore |
23:22 | <raven523> | only password. If you run ssh on this machine to connect to another machine, then it doesn't use this machine's keys in /etc/ssh (unless you explicitly configured it to do that) |
23:24 | <Sqrt{Not}> | !ssh without password |
23:24 | <dpkg> | (1) on the client: ssh-keygen -t rsa (2) ssh-copy-id server.example.com. Ask me about <keychain> and <ssh-askpass> for ways of storing your ssh key's passphrase between uses. If you are wanting to use ssh to allow root logins for rsync backups (or something similar to that) then you might want to limit what this key can do and from where you can use it, see http://www.nanonanonano.net/linux/rootrsync for one approach. |
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23:27 | <mangodfruit> | I got that.....sorry....I understand the part when you use the ssh-keygen that you will not use a password.....where I am confused right now.....I have deleted the .ssh on the client and server home directory.....so I have no private keys on the client...but when I run ssh mang@ipaddresssofserver ....it actually connects to the server!... and under the .ssh folder there is no public key on the client still |
23:27 | <Sqrt{Not}> | do you have to login with a password still? |
23:28 | <mangodfruit> | yes....but I though that even with a password a private key is still required no? |
23:29 | <Sqrt{Not}> | no |
23:29 | <mangodfruit> | ssh uses both private and public keys to operate? no? |
23:29 | <mangodfruit> | ok.... |
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23:30 | <Sqrt{Not}> | using a password is the old way. There are 2 different crypto things happening here: (1) the data is encrypted while it is transferred, (2) optionally you can use a private/public key pair to login your user to the remote server |
23:31 | <mangodfruit> | ok....obviously the second one is better and safer I guess? |
23:31 | <darkphysics> | correct |
23:32 | <Sqrt{Not}> | it is not a choice of one or the other. |
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23:32 | <Sqrt{Not}> | you want to encrypt all the data, all the time, but, separate from that, it is much safer to authenticate the user via a public/private key, than with a password |
23:33 | <mangodfruit> | ok.....it is much clearer now.....have a second question pls |
23:33 | <Sqrt{Not}> | one part protects the data from eavesdropping on the wire; the other part protects the server from people who are not you, guessing your password and getting access to the server |
23:37 | <mangodfruit> | on previous debian versions 10.x ...and as far as I recall, I was able to connect to a server with ssh as root ....now on debian 10.11 I cannot do that....under /etc/ssh/ssh_config there is no comment related to root to enable it? |
23:38 | <raven523> | the server's config is /etc/ssh/sshd_config (ssh_config is for clients) |
23:39 | <Sqrt{Not}> | you know it is a REALLY bad idea to ssh as root? |
23:39 | <mangodfruit> | I am just learning...I know....just trying different thinds |
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23:40 | <Sqrt{Not}> | try not to use root any more that the small, small amount that is absolutely necessary. this is not DOS |
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23:41 | <Sqrt{Not}> | better to learn about "sudo" and use it as little as is absolutely necessary |
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23:42 | <mangodfruit> | thanks for the advice.....I always nice to comeback here....you guys are more than great....thanks a lot |
23:42 | <r4fkramer> | Hi all, please, I just accidentally deleted an entire debian partition, with lots of valuable data on it. |
23:42 | <r4fkramer> | Please, are there any safe options in LIVE mode that I can use to try to recover my data? |
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23:42 | <r4fkramer> | I had problems with the test disk, and besides me, several also report bugs in this system that have not yet been resolved, so I don't want this option anymore, which for me is not reliable. |
23:43 | <sney> | !gpart |
23:43 | <dpkg> | Gpart is a tool to recover the primary partition table of PC-type disks. It can also restore the types, sizes and locations of deleted partitions. http://home.pages.de/~michab/gpart/ Not to be confused with <gparted>. See also <testdisk>. |
23:43 | <r4fkramer> | risking losing valuable personal data is a nightmare. This hd was formatted twice, so I don't know if I still have a chance, but I need to try. |
23:43 | <sney> | this is an example that dpkg knows about, I have never used it so don't ask me to explain it |
23:44 | <sney> | otherwise, restore a backup. |
23:44 | <sussudio> | r4fkramer: dd copy the contents to another disk before you start fucking more with it. something you should have done beforehand. |
23:45 | <Sqrt{Not}> | mangodfruit, the reason you can still connect even after you deleted the things under the "client" machines .ssh, is because the connection part of the crypto uses the server's keys for the transit encryption. |
23:45 | <Sqrt{Not}> | mangodfruit, so what you have accomplished by deleting those keys from the local machine, is to make it not work very well as an ssh SERVER. |
23:45 | <r4fkramer> | Yes, sussudio, that was my fault, and I am feeling quite idiot because of that. |
23:45 | <r4fkramer> | Please, sussudio, do you know any ISO installation to recover data ? |
23:46 | <sussudio> | no. |
23:47 | <sussudio> | i don't know if rescatux has anything. there's probably similar things out there. |
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23:48 | <r4fkramer> | I used rescatux yesterday, but I really don't remember if there is this resources on it. Anyway I gonna try System Rescue, an Arch based live DVD for this purpose. Thank you very much anyway |
23:49 | <awal1> | r4fkramer, have you thought on photorec from testdisk? |
23:49 | <awal1> | ,v testdisk |
23:49 | <judd> | Package: testdisk on amd64 -- stretch: 7.0-3; buster: 7.0-3+b4; bullseye: 7.1-5+b1; bookworm: 7.1-5+b2; sid: 7.1-5+b2 |
23:50 | <r4fkramer> | No awal1, test disk is very buggy and not efficient for tons of cases. I've been reading about it in some linux forums and it doesn't motivate me to use it anymore |
23:50 | <r4fkramer> | photorec is in rescatux |
23:51 | <r4fkramer> | I can use photorec through rescatux, but I never used photorec. Do you know about its efficiency ? |
23:51 | <awal1> | i used photorec that comes in testdisk in the past and it did a good job form me |
23:51 | <awal1> | i used it to recover an external hard drive |
23:52 | <r4fkramer> | awal1, did you use it to recover data specifically ? |
23:52 | <awal1> | well, the drive i recuperated was corrupted not formatted |
23:52 | <awal1> | important precision ^ |
23:53 | <awal1> | so , not sure if efficient for a formatted on |
23:53 | <r4fkramer> | hum, so it is a different case..... |
23:53 | <r4fkramer> | Anyway I gonna try it now through rescatux, for this live system recovered my grub |
23:54 | <awal1> | yours is formatted twice you said? |
23:54 | <awal1> | your drive ^ |
23:54 | <r4fkramer> | yes, and that is making me afraid |
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23:54 | <ysgz> | who? |
23:54 | <r4fkramer> | Perhaps because of that I can't recover my data anymore. Anyway, I will try it |
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23:55 | <ysgz> | any body? |
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23:57 | <awal1> | r4fkramer, as i told you , i used photorec to recuperate data from a corrupted external drive, not from a formatted one. so up to you... |
23:57 | <r4fkramer> | awal1, yes, I know about it. Your case is different than mine here.... |
23:58 | <awal1> | r4fkramer, you can investigate more and don't jump to the first suggestions... |
23:59 | <awal1> | investigate/ask more... |
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