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#debian IRC Logs for 2022-01-12

---Logopened Wed Jan 12 00:00:04 2022
---Daychanged Wed Jan 12 2022
00:00<awal1>r4fkramer, you can ask kgb/cia/fbi too :D
00:00<r4fkramer>Yes awal1, don't worry, I know about it. But I will make some research about photorec. Lots of people have been commenting about it
00:00<r4fkramer>No, they will not answer me....
00:00<r4fkramer>I prefer guys here in debian channel.
00:00<awal1>just kidding you :P :D
00:01<awal1>good luck :)
00:01<r4fkramer>yes, I know, thank you, for this year has started horribly for me - by the way, for a lot of people
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00:01<r4fkramer>Thank you very much awal1 :)
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06:14<user717>I just dist-upgraded from buster to bullseye and I'm using a non-us keyboard layout with some own modifications. I have changed the symbols-file to again include my layout, I double checked that /etc/default/keyboard uses my variant and KEYMAP is set to 'y' in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf. I made a update-initramfs -u, but still I can't get my keyboard layout while writing my luks passphrase and
06:14<user717>this is driving me crazy. Any suggestions? Thanks
06:15<user717>Btw, it worked in buster
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06:30*cousin_luigi is trying to build a custom debian kernel.
06:30<cousin_luigi>I'm stuck here: https://kernel-team.pages.debian.net/kernel-handbook/ch-common-tasks.html#s4.2.5 just how to I build for amd64?
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07:54<arinov>a week on debian stable with kde gives me a feeling that is very buggy in almost every GUI app
07:54<arinov>earlier i asked about reporting 4 problems with apps
07:55<arinov>now i have another 2: konsole profiles randomly appearing without name in profile list
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07:55<arinov>spectacle does not work with opened context menus
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07:56<arinov>there is no reason to stay in stable with all of this
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07:58<arinov>i believe everybody knows it and it appears in every distro, and packagers cannot fix it, it needs to be addressed directly to devs
07:58<arinov>devs will say man, its too old, update to the new one
07:59<arinov>so in other hand i have modern kde with fixes on unstable system and in other hand i have buggy kde on stable system
07:59<arinov>all human nature in one sentence
08:00<arinov>its time to trash out all the distro repos with this junk
08:00<user717>Got it to work. I had to do a "sudo setupcon --save" before "sudo update-initramfs -u". I remember getting the output from "sudo setupcon --save" when using "sudo update-initramfs -u" in buster, so maybe that part is removed in bullseye.
08:00<arinov>the system must stay for core system components and package manager
08:01<arinov>and all other stuff must give user a choice to install something more fast-moving and rolled
08:02<arinov>old suckers cannot manage current reality with this approaches
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08:03<spawacz>!next
08:03<dpkg>Another happy customer leaves the building.
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08:12<psychotron>"xserver-command=/usr/bin/X :1" <- can the session be specified here on /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf?
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08:12<psychotron>all it did it started lightdm again
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08:13<psychotron>I am trying to get vt7 and vt8 as sessions
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08:15<psychotron>https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/xorg_multiseat#For_LightDM I took these lines
08:15<psychotron>all it did it started lightdm again
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08:15<psychotron>do I need xorg.conf
08:16<psychotron>I made that config with the command
08:16<psychotron>It's not edited
08:17<psychotron>do Ineed to put seats in xorg.conf
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08:25<psychotron>I saw the X command somewhere, but I can't find the page anymore, because I have so many tabs open in firefox browser
08:26<psychotron>I do not know if I have to enable vt8 some other way
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08:27<psychotron>I got time till some where around 18.00 finnish time
08:28<psychotron>I think I had too much coffee
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08:29<psychotron>I'm coming back on friday morning
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08:29<psychotron>I'm too psyched
08:30<psychotron>wolfenstein get psyched
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08:31<psychotron>I can' read just now, because I start skipping
08:31<psychotron>t
08:34<psychotron>3/5 beans coffee 4 cups
08:35<psychotron>wait.... 5 cups and I emptied the rest of the bag
08:35<bremner>psychotron: this isn't the place for your stream of conciousness
08:36<psychotron>please help me
08:36<grove>What do mean by getting vt7 and vt8 as session? Do you just want more terminals (X just starts at the first terminal you don't use
08:36<grove>Is that even what you need help with? You've rambled so much I've lost track
08:37<psychotron>I just want 2 logins with lightdm vt7 and vt8
08:38<psychotron>how to enable vt8?
08:38<grove>You want multiple X sessions on one machine? I'm not sure that's possible
08:39<psychotron>it is possible I have done it before
08:39<psychotron>with gdm
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08:39<cc>it's possible but not all desktops and login managers support it
08:40<psychotron>I used a startx command to start the second session
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08:40<psychotron>now it doesn't work it says permission denied on vt8
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08:42<psychotron>how do I give user permission to go to vt8?
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08:43<EmleyMoor>I'm getting way too much in logcheck emails, from gdm-x-session. Any easy way to exclude the innocuous stuff from this
08:44<schubisu>psychotron: I don't think you want two seats. Have you checked this first thing that pops up when searching online? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/85383/how-to-start-a-second-x-session
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08:50<grove>EmleyMoor: I don't remember for sure, but think that was why I switched to logwatch
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08:50<EmleyMoor>grove: I will look into that...
08:51<EmleyMoor>Of course, the other thing I really want is a "smart" tool for ipset maintenance
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09:02<psychotronics>https://paste.debian.net/1226853/
09:03<psychotronics>I tried with the "startx startlxqt -- :1 vt8"
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09:08<Sqrt{Not}>psychotronics, anything useful in that logfile in your user directory?
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09:14<Sqrt{Not}>psychotronics, I mean, you seem to have log files in /home/jamo/ and in /home/user/
09:16<psychotronics>so?
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09:17<Sqrt{Not}>sometimes the contents of log files can help
09:18<Sqrt{Not}>psychotronics, nvm -- I guess the details of this futile project are way too far into the scrollback
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09:20<psychotronics>doesn't help at all
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09:27<psychotronics>so how do I get permission for user to access vt8?
09:28<psychotronics>I think the installed Arch on T60 can do it right away
09:29<psychotronics>Do I have to test that now?
09:30<kritzefitz>I think you need to give the user permission to write on /dev/tty8.
09:31<grawity>wouldn't recommend starting X on other tty than the one you logged in at -- can result in various issues where polkit doesn't give your "inactive" session the right permissions
09:32<grawity>if you want tty8, it's 1 command to start a login prompt there
09:33<psychotronics>great the arch user repository is here
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09:35<psychotronics>I could not install arc on x220, because the how to is gone
09:35<psychotronics>arch
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09:36<psychotronics>it's too hard to install even a single arch
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09:36<psychotronics>did it once when there was a beginners how to
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09:37<grawity>is that a debian problem?
09:37<psychotronics>whats yours?
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09:40<bremner>psychotronics: you've been warned about filling the channel with offtopic discussion.
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10:39<cc>does ubuntu still largely use debian packages, or has it diverged?
10:40<sussudio>ask in an ubuntu channel.
10:41<cc>I'll do that when I'll be using ubuntu
10:42<sussudio>bye then.
10:42<cc>you may leave, bye
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11:16<schubisu>huh, rough tone in here
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11:18<schubisu>cc: I guess that's maybe a bit unspecific, depending what you refer to with "packages". But as long as Ubuntu uses the apt package manager, I would suppose that not much has changed regarding it's dependency on debian. I'm no expert in either distro, though
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11:59<scorpion2185[m]>does kbsd only have net inst?
11:59<scorpion2185[m]>https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD
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12:01<bremner>tbh, I'm surprised a current installer exists.
12:02<scorpion2185[m]>is the project active^
12:02<scorpion2185[m]>?
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12:03<bremner>I don't think it is very active, but there is an irc channel
12:04<bremner>#debian-kbsd
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12:10<mason>scorpion2185[m]: There was some relevant traffic on the mailing list last month: https://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/2021/12/threads.html
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12:34<scorpion2185[m]>https://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/2021/12/msg00004.html
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12:55<mason>scorpion2185[m]: Unless you need a barbecue net, I'd ignore that one and look at the others.
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13:11<petn-randall>scorpion2185[m]: There's a "report spam" button at the top right.
13:15<tuxd3v>!you should know better
13:15<dpkg>I resemble that remark!
13:17<spawacz>how can i check why does grep treat my file as binary?
13:17<spawacz>i have to pass the -a flag to treat it as text, but i have no clue how it become "binary" if it always is a text
13:18<petn-randall>spawacz: What makes you think grep treats it as "binary"?
13:18<spawacz>it says "binary file matches"
13:18<spawacz>instead of showing grep results
13:19<petn-randall>spawacz: What does `file <yourfile>` say?
13:19<spawacz>data
13:19<spawacz>but it's bash_history xD
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13:20<spawacz>how did it get bad? i always grepped for stuff in bash history without this problem
13:20<petn-randall>spawacz: then something is wrong with it, it should report "text" in some form.
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13:21<petn-randall>spawacz: `history | grep <searchterm>` should work then. Or pressing ctrl+r then searching.
13:21<spawacz>yeah.. i went over it with sed
13:21<spawacz>removed ann [[:print:]]
13:21<spawacz>and all thats letfs are 0x bytes and a sled of zeros
13:21<spawacz>no, i need to investigate and fix that
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