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---Logopened Tue Jan 10 00:00:49 2006
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01:12<linbot>New news from forums: when will i get my money back? in Sales Questions and Answers <>
01:21<mite>is there a way to preorder one of the unavailable plans...
01:27<@mikegrb>Unfortunatly, no
01:27<@mikegrb>which plan were you interested in?
01:29<[|^__^|]>^-- what.... the...
01:30<[|^__^|]>cmantito: TELL ME YOU SEE IT TOO
01:30<cmantito>What do you see? I was commenting on the blatent hipocracy on the page.
01:31<[|^__^|]>I see a hannity dating site
01:31<cmantito>well, maybe not so blatent.
01:31<[|^__^|]>but I couldn't *possibly*
01:31<[|^__^|]>mikegrb: I think he was interested in the hannidate plan, and we scared him off
01:32<cmantito>bleh, I'm tired.
01:32<cmantito> network connection is %$££$3ing slow.
01:33<@mikegrb>SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
01:33<cmantito>course, comcast does provision me 6600 kbps, but I get about 2000
01:33<@mikegrb>host []: 550 No thanks.
01:34<@mikegrb>spam filtering abuse addresses is the silliest thing ever
01:34<@mikegrb>also, sony and samsung both have datacenter companies
01:35<[|^__^|]>I spam filter my abuse
01:35<cmantito> => /dev/null ;)
01:36<@mikegrb> <-- comcast is tied for first
01:36[~][|^__^|] signs cmantito up for rfc-ignorant
01:36<@mikegrb>cmantito: not quite the same as a datacenter doing it
01:36<cmantito>mikegrb: duh ;)
01:36<cmantito>[|^__^|]: eh?
01:37<encode>haha @ that latest post in the forum (listed by linbot ^^)
01:37<cmantito>I Was laughing at that guy earlier
01:37<[|^__^|]> <-- cmantito
01:37<@mikegrb>encode: he posted in his other thread too
01:37<cmantito>he's got 3 or 4 of them
01:38<[|^__^|]>okay, so I'm doing contract work for a client who's in macao right now
01:38<cmantito>[|^__^|]: I'm not RFC-ignorant.
01:38<[|^__^|]>and he says that there's a real chinese feeling everywhere that all american businesses are slimy cheats
01:38<cmantito>in fact, I drive my friends nuts with my obsession over standards ^^
01:38<@mikegrb>what's really funny, he top posts, on a frikn forum
01:38<[|^__^|]>cmantito: no, you have an abuse@, even if you devnull it
01:39<[|^__^|]>so like, the overall sentiment in china WRT american businesses is "bilk 'em before they take us for all we've got"
01:39<[|^__^|]>so you get a lot of adversarial "YOU FUCKING CHEAT" back-and-forth in chinese business dealings now
01:40<[|^__^|]>and sometimes it's just someone trying not to get screwed
01:40<[|^__^|]>and being aggro to keep you from thinking he's some dumb hick
01:40<[|^__^|]>and sometimes it's someone trying to play funny
01:42<[|^__^|]>anyway, he's on his weird little peninsula right now, and playing in hong kong when he can
01:42<[|^__^|]>but he's dealt with a bunch of guangdong province folks and that's the feeling he gets
01:43<@mikegrb> <-- [|^__^|]
01:43<@mikegrb>train spam
01:44<[|^__^|]> <-- cmantito
01:44<[|^__^|]>Also, if it is provable that the abuse address is being dropped in the bit bucket automatically (e.g:
01:44<[|^__^|]>>>> EXPN abuse@somewhere.tld
01:44<[|^__^|]><<< 250 2.1.5 </dev/null>
01:44<[|^__^|]>^-- cmantito
01:44<[|^__^|]>That would also be considered a violation of the RFC, and cause for listing.
01:44<Battousai>high viscosity baptismal oil
01:45<cmantito>Battousai: hah! watching too? ;)
01:45<Battousai>yes sir
01:45<cmantito>[|^__^|]: nah, *@ with exceptions I get
01:45<[|^__^|]>220 ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.11/8.12.11; Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:45:16 -0500
01:45<[|^__^|]>I oughta do that
01:46<[|^__^|]>pretend I'm still running Sendmail
01:46<cmantito>Leave my sendmail alone ><
01:47<[|^__^|]>it's not important which MTA you use
01:47<[|^__^|]>what's important is that you know that you use the *wrong* one
01:47<cmantito>oh flegh.
01:47<[|^__^|]>same thing with shells
01:47<cmantito>and what shells are wrong?
01:47<[|^__^|]>it's not important which shell you use
01:47<[|^__^|]>what's important is that you know that you use the *wrong* one
01:47[~]Battousai uses busybox
01:48[~][|^__^|] boxes Battousai
01:48[~]mikegrb uses battousaish
01:48<Battousai>so your point is, all MTAs are wrong and all shells are wrong, right?
01:48<[|^__^|]>Battousai: no, but the ones *you* use are wrong
01:48<Battousai>i use all of them
01:48<Battousai>so hah
01:48<cmantito>[|^__^|]: and I suppose BASH is wrong?
01:48<[|^__^|]>mikegrb: You're not entitled to your opinions
01:48<[|^__^|]>cmantito: defensive, much?
01:48<cmantito>[|^__^|]: only when tired.
01:49<[|^__^|]>cmantito: okay, you and Battousai kiss and make up then.
01:49<[|^__^|]>Battousai: shake on it!
01:49[~]cmantito kisses Battousai
01:49[~]Battousai with tongue
01:49<[|^__^|]>mikegrb: are you filming this?
01:49<cmantito>that could be good.
01:49<Battousai>man, caker's gonna regret logging this channel soon
01:50<cmantito>Battousai: male or female? ;)
01:50<cmantito>even better :D
01:50<Battousai>this is probably the least weird conversation i've been involved in all day
01:51<cmantito>that's a scary thought.
01:51<Battousai>mikegrb: dan castellaneta++
01:52<@mikegrb>Battousai: say cheese
01:52<Battousai>what kind?
01:52<cmantito>mikegrb: I like the irc log.
01:52<Battousai>lumbergh cheese--
01:52<@mikegrb>cmantito: you are famous because you are on my website ;)
01:52<Battousai>gary cole++
01:53<@mikegrb>except [|^__^|] shows up twice everytime, weird
01:53<@mikegrb>just on the start of a line though
01:54<Battousai>now for the drum solo!
01:55<[|^__^|]>mikegrb: weird, and once I'm red...
01:55<cmantito>some kind of regex?
01:55<Battousai>double the fun
01:56<@mikegrb>cmantito: lots of regex
01:56<Battousai>mikegrb's magic regex would make your head explode upon sight of it
01:56<cmantito>mikegrb: I mean one that would react funny to [|^__^|]
01:56<Battousai>to date, it's the only thing man has discovered that is more powerful than a chuck norris roundhouse kick
01:57<@mikegrb> s/</\<\;/g;
01:57<@mikegrb> s/>/\>\;/g;
01:57<@mikegrb>s^(\d+:\d+) \* (\S+) (.*)|$1 * <b>$2</b> $3|;
01:57<@mikegrb> ($time, $nick, $text) = split(/ /, $_, 3);
01:57<@mikegrb> if($text =~ s/^\s+(\S+)\s?\|//) { $nick .= $1; }
01:57<@mikegrb> $_ = $text;
01:57<@mikegrb> $nick =~ s/---\|/---/;
01:57<@mikegrb> s/^(.*? joined \#.*?$)/<font color=\"blue\">$1<\/font>/;
01:57<@mikegrb> s/^(.*?\] has quit [|(].*?$)/<font color=\"red\">$1<\/font>/;
01:57<@mikegrb> s/^(.*? left \#.*?$)/<font color=\"blue\">$1<\/font>/;
01:57<@mikegrb> s/^(\[.*?\])/$1<font color\=\"red\">$1<\/font>/;
01:57<@mikegrb> $time =~ s/(\d+\:\d+)/<a name=\"$1\">$1<\/a>/;
01:57<@mikegrb> chomp;
01:57<[|^__^|]>23:57 <@mikegrb> s/^(\[.*?\])/$1<font color\=\"red\">$1<\/font>/;
01:57[~]Battousai humps
01:57[~]cmantito loves perl
01:57<[|^__^|]>ha ha perl
01:57<@mikegrb>[|^__^|]: yeah
01:57<[|^__^|]>that looks like the dupe
01:57<cmantito>what's the point of the [.*?]?
01:58<Battousai>it makes your wang 4 inches longer
01:58<Battousai>conditionally of course
01:58<cmantito>get rid of it then, I'm already set.
01:58[~]cmantito restarts wangd
01:58<Battousai>i didnt say four inches long
01:58<cmantito>Battousai: whoops, my mistake.
01:58<@mikegrb>cmantito: catch quit messages I think
01:58[~]Battousai checks
01:58<@mikegrb>it parses my irssi logs
01:58<cmantito>mikegrb: ahh
01:58<[|^__^|]>okay, I'm gunna crash
01:58<@mikegrb>which are dependant on theme
01:59<cmantito>I was just about to version you too.
01:59<[|^__^|]>I have an awk script to parse mine
01:59<@mikegrb>and I've switched irssi themes a couple of times over the years
01:59<@mikegrb>so it matches any of the formats
01:59<cmantito><3 perl.
01:59<Battousai>why not just make a perl irc client that just dumps raw logs out
01:59<[|^__^|]>he could
01:59<cmantito>Battousai: I have a bot that does that, thank you.
01:59[~]Battousai isn't kidding
01:59<[|^__^|]>it's entirely possible to make irssi log in HTML
01:59<[|^__^|]>on a daily basis
02:00<[|^__^|]>using the log theme stuff
02:00<[|^__^|]>AND IN PERL TOO
02:00<[|^__^|]>sleep time
02:00<cmantito>same here
02:00<cmantito>I need to hit the bed.
02:00[~]Battousai needs to hit the shower
02:00[~]mikegrb hits Battousai
02:00<Battousai>a good cold shower... all this humping and kissing has me hot and sticky
02:00<cmantito>yes you do, Battousai
02:00<Battousai>mostly sticky
02:00[~]cmantito humps Battousai goodnight ;)
02:01<Battousai>mikegrb: harder
02:01<Battousai>take care you two
02:01<cmantito>night all
02:01[~]cmantito -> sleep();
02:05<Battousai>mikegrb: i need to file a ticket
02:05<@mikegrb>Battousai: I need you to file a ticket
02:05<Battousai> front page has no sexy pics of you
02:09<@mikegrb>Battousai: make me some pretty templates for my spam reports and I'll make sure you get one
02:15<Battousai>ah, that's a general template
02:15[~]Battousai did not know of
02:17<@mikegrb>yeah, probably going to put the stuff at
02:17<@mikegrb>rather then within existing cms
02:19<Battousai>i like the orange
02:19<Battousai>but i'm a flyers fan
02:20<@mikegrb>well it has some color but is still nice and clean
02:54<warewolf>it's fucked up, when you get a glowing review, work 12 fucking hours, and the next day get an email from your project manager saying that he wants to talk about your "performance".
02:54<warewolf>what. the. fuck.
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04:13<encode>warewolf: is it possible its a good thing?
04:14<encode>maybe he wants to commend your work ethic?
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04:39<warewolf>encode: no, it's not a good thing.
04:40<encode>in my experience, project managers have no clue with what is actually going on in their project
04:40<warewolf>this guy is a good PM.
04:40<warewolf>he's a techie turned PM by accident
04:40<warewolf>I respect him a lot.
04:40<encode>oh thats good then
04:41<encode>the company i work at have project managers that don't do anything except delegate all responsibilites to the techies involved
04:41<encode>and its not a small company
04:41[~]encode often wonders why they aren't bankrupt
04:51<warewolf>ex-coworker of mine interviewed at Amazon
04:52<warewolf>before her second (telephone) interview, she did some creative things on
04:52<warewolf>eg, searching for some choice phrases
04:52<warewolf>on the second interview they zinged her on them :)
04:52<warewolf>her (minor) paranoia was justified!
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07:17<BB>anyone else having routing issues to linodes at theplanet?
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07:19<arni>problems at The Planet?
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07:20[~]BB has problems
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07:20[~]BB slaps mikegrb
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07:22<BB>heh looks like their world stopped spinning
07:22<arni>hell yeah
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07:25<arni>so, whats going on?
07:25<andrew__>hi, is down?
07:25<arni>cant reach it from here
07:25<andrew__>where's it hosted? I think i'm @ ThePlant, I can't reach my box either
07:27<BB>yeah its at theplanet
07:27<andrew__> seems to be down as well
07:28<heidi>i got to them
07:29<BB>i can via some places but not others.. both go via to the same theplanet IPs and then one barfs when inside their network
07:29<arni>my trace stops here:
07:29<arni>13 ( 109.975 ms 111.551 ms ( 119.235 ms
07:29<andrew__>must be a switch then, do we suspect DDOS?
07:29<arni>14 * *
07:29<arni>we may suspect anything...
07:30<BB>i doubt its a switch
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07:31<andrew__>switch would explain why is down as well as all the linodes. High usage would explain why some ppl are seeing activity ?
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07:31<heidi> isnt down
07:31<heidi>there website came up fine
07:31<andrew__>it's unavailable for most people
07:31<jeremiah>yaa, my linode is down too.
07:32<arni>something is going on in there, cause I run msn with centericq on my Linode and when I connect from home using GAIM I'm getting thrown off because the client reconnected somewhere else..
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07:35<heidi>looks like they are coming back
07:35<jeremiah>whats going on caker?
07:35<FireSlash>Heh. For a second there I thought someone haxx0r3d my box again ^^
07:39<arni>oooh.. its still going! 20 packets transmitted, 1 received, 95% packet loss, time 19017ms
07:58<arni>anyone looking into it? or do we just sit around and wait for someone to fix it?
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07:59<andrew__>isn't that the same thing? They know about it, they'll fix it, we wait.
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08:00<zoot_>hi all - can't access linode members section via https. also, i'm unable to access my linode on host34 - anyone know if there are issues with the afforementioned?
08:00<andrew__>it's affecting all hosts at theplanet data centre
08:00<arni>andrew__: exactly what I thought when I pushed return :p
08:02<zoot_>yep, i thought it was a routing issue of sorts.. no access from two completely independent networks
08:03<Internat>aww tp.. aww
08:03<Internat>im in tp :/
08:03<Internat>actually im still connected\
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08:09<arni>we're baack ;)
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08:11<arni>at least for a minute...
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08:11<Beirdo>I take it this is a TP routing nightmare morning?
08:12<andrew__>i think it's a whole internet f'up morning, guba have just tried to authorise my acount 10 times, all have been authorised but it's still showing declined :(
08:13<BB>yup looks to be back for me too
08:13<Beirdo>wonder what worm caused this fun?
08:13<andrew__>yay, i'm also back
08:13<Beirdo>that would be my first bet these days
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10:00<tsi>network problems?
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10:43<anderiv>tsi: what are you seeing?
10:48|-|mode/#linode [+o caker] by ChanServ
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11:16<ashmon>is there a faq about adding disk space to my linode acct?
11:17<kvandivo>go to your account, click on the 'add stuff' link and go
11:21<ashmon>I did that and now the website shows that it is upgraded, but when I df, it still shows the old amount.
11:21<kvandivo>did you reboot?
11:22<cmantito>you have to resize the partitions in LPM to use the new space
11:22<cmantito>and reboot.
11:23<ashmon>i did reboot
11:23<cmantito>did you stretch your existing partitions to fill it or add a new partition first (in LPM)?
11:24<ashmon>nope. is there a faq to do that?
11:24<@mikegrb>ashmon: check your ticket, I gave you a step by steb
11:24<@mikegrb>er step
11:24<cmantito>...apparantly so. ^^
11:24<kvandivo>stebbing people now, mg?
11:24<@mikegrb>lemme know if you are unclear about any step
11:24<@mikegrb>kvandivo: yes, just can't help myself
11:24<kvandivo>just don't get caught
11:25<cmantito>hmm..this would explain why I didn't get the SMSs, pages, or emails about my linode being unavailable.
11:25<cmantito>No SMS credit = bad.
11:25<cmantito>Linode down = no mail server.
11:29<cmantito>oi. Does anyone else use ICQ at all?
11:29<anderiv>cmantito: very little. I have an account, but really only have one contact that still uses it.
11:30<cmantito>I just keep getting instant messages from weird russian people who are getting on my nerves. Wondering if anyone else had that.
11:30<anderiv>cmantito: nope
11:30<cmantito>then I don't feel so bad about blocking them.
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12:11<ashmon>Hey another question.
12:12<ashmon>Is there an easy way to transfer all the users from an old host to linode?
12:12<ashmon>mainly for email purposes.
12:12<ashmon>I kindof have access to the old server.
12:13<ashmon>It's a freebsd system.
12:13<cmantito>/etc/passwd & /etc/shadow assuming that's how your mail server auths
12:13<ashmon>ok. So do I just need to copy the appropriate lines out of those files and put them into the same files on my linode server?
12:14<ashmon>what about the home directories? Will I have to manually make all of them?
12:15<BB>you will prob need to look at the group file too
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12:55<mamcinty>caker, are you available?
12:55<@caker>mamcinty: hello
12:56<mamcinty>Just activated my account today, but I can't seem to login.
12:56<mamcinty>I don't know if I set the password incorrectly or what.
12:56<@caker>mamcinty: looks like an incorrect password. You can use the password reset
12:57<mamcinty>I looked for one, but I didn't see it. Guess I must have missed it. I found the login reminder
12:57<mamcinty>where is the password reset?
12:57<@caker>scroll a bit
12:58<mamcinty>man, I am an idiot :-)
12:58<mamcinty>I appreciate it
12:58<@caker>no problem :)
12:59<mamcinty>Much, better. I can login now
13:00<mamcinty>thanks again
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13:09<anderiv>caker: did you really disable zhaoke's account on phpbb?
13:09<anderiv>caker: sorry to bring up a (possibly) sore topic.
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13:17<anderiv>that whole thread just sort of struck me funny
13:25<@caker>No, I didn't .. he just re-registered today
13:25<@caker>(on the forum)
13:25<anderiv>caker: I figured not...didn't think that would be your style.
13:26<anderiv>caker: it's a bummer - there are clearly some language barrier issues there.
13:26<anderiv>caker: we deal with that all the time w/ our customers and it's quite frustrating, but something you have to work through nonetheless.
13:31[~]guinea-pig gives caker a hug
13:32<guinea-pig>you're the best linode company owner in the world!
13:33<anderiv>ohh - can you feel the love, folks?
13:33[~]caker blushes
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14:03[~]BB *pukes*
14:04<[|^__^|]>poor BB
14:07<anderiv>alright - critical advice needed...what to homebrew next? a bavarian Hefeweizen or a belgian witbeer?
14:09<kvandivo>a Weiner Schnitzel
14:09<anderiv>kvandivo: that was not one of the choices....though I do like weiner schnitzel.
14:11<kvandivo>i just thought the words fit
14:22<anderiv>well - made my's the witbeer:
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15:54<@caker>alex323: hello
15:54<alex323>caker: Hey.
15:55<alex323>I was just courious, do you have any updates on any new linodes at HE?
15:55<@caker>alex323: HE told me 6-8 weeks for their new facility, however we're considering another cabinet sooner at the current facility, just for the meantime
15:55<alex323>I see.
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16:09<andrew__>I started installing Sarge on my home box, it's a net install, it asked me to choose the closest mirror, turns out I picked a busy one, I'm getting 40kB/s - Anyone know if it's possible to stop it downloading, then chance the source, then start it back without loosing all the packages it's downloaded so far?
16:11<@mikegrb>in a normal situation yes, not sure about within the context of a netinstall, I mean it won't lose them, it's a matter of restarting the process I'm unsure about
16:11<andrew__>should I just ctrl-c it, then go back to the previous step in the install?
16:11<@mikegrb>I'm not sure
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16:12<andrew__>it's worth a go ;)
16:12<jotun>do your worst.
16:12<@mikegrb>that would probably ork
16:12<@mikegrb>I believe you should have a shell on another VT you can switch the source with
16:12<@mikegrb>though probably can do it from the menu too
16:12<andrew__>yeah, i just hit it with 6 ctrl-c's, it kept going
16:15<andrew__>i've manually changed the source file, we'll see what happens on the next file
16:18<andrew__>nope, it needs a restart of the process, i wonder if i can use the next vt to kill the process
16:23<andrew__>didn't work :( I hope this next mirror is super quick to make up for the last 2hrs
16:27<kvandivo>just keep trying, and eventually you'll find a fast one
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17:59<[Erik]>horray! in 4 hours my linode will have a year of uptime :D
17:59<Battousai>which host?
17:59<@mikegrb>let's have a giant party
17:59[~]Battousai readies the power switch
17:59<@mikegrb>me likes
17:59[~]mikegrb logs into the rpc
18:00[~]mikegrb sets reminder for 3 hours 55 minutes
18:00<Battousai>gotta make it look good... like a kernel panic or something
18:00<Battousai>or pc load letter
18:00<@mikegrb>figlet PC Load Letter | wall
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18:17<Internat>stupid question what is pc load letter?
18:18<womble>Internat: You Must Watch Office Space
18:18<[Erik]>and dont forget to fill in your TPS Reports
18:19<Internat>tps stands for the planet sucks right?
18:19<womble>Internat: And when I say that, I mean "right now".
18:19<womble>Now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now
18:20<@mikegrb>Internat: dpm
18:20<womble>I'm going have to go ahead and get you to come in on... Saturday. <schlurp>
18:20<@mikegrb>don't forget your TPS reports
18:20<@mikegrb>and then I'm going to go ahead and need you to come in sunday too
18:21<womble>I reckon if I was a millionaire I could hook that up
18:22<@mikegrb>chicks dig guys with money
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21:46<Internat>damm u php why do u haunt me so
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