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---Logopened Fri Feb 10 00:00:06 2006
00:18<gpd>what does 10 or 12 mean on a helipad?
00:18[~]gpd extends arm in expectation of prize for most random question
00:49<taupehat>heh
00:49<taupehat>I'm pretty sure that's rotor capacity in meters
00:49<taupehat>anyhow
00:49<taupehat>anyone in here speak Polish?
00:52<gpd>rotor capacity = diameter ? That is what I assumed... google earth prompted the question... but google refused to answer my question
00:52<taupehat>hehe
00:53<taupehat>http://www.ilga.gov/commission/jcar/admincode/092/09200014ZZ9996GR.html
00:54<taupehat>actually, this one'
00:54<taupehat>this one's better:
00:54<taupehat>http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfiles/af/32/afi32-1042/afi32-1042.pdf
00:54<taupehat>9.1. Install helipad perimeter and identification markings to accommodate the overall length of the
00:54<taupehat>largest helicopter using the facility.
00:56<taupehat>so it's the length of the chopper
00:57<gpd>nice searching!
00:57[~]taupehat is good at google
00:57<taupehat>http://www.google.com/search?q=helipad+marking+standards&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official
01:01<@mikegrb>I participated in a disaster response drill at previous job
01:01<taupehat>did you get to build a helipad?
01:01<@mikegrb>it involved several hundred helocopter landings over two days
01:01<taupehat>jeez
01:02<@mikegrb>nice giant grass area with trees around the perimeter
01:02<@mikegrb>so of course they choose to land between the trees
01:02<taupehat>was this to show off, or was there a reason?
01:02<@mikegrb>it was part of a disaster response drill
01:03<@mikegrb>thousands of fake dead / dying people
01:03<@mikegrb>etc
01:03<taupehat>yeah, but the landing site
01:03<@mikegrb>"wind"
01:03<taupehat>I understand the drill (sounds wild, by the way)
01:03<taupehat>oh
01:03<taupehat>well, that makes sense
01:03<taupehat>the physics of a helicopter near the ground is pretty sketchy from what I understand
01:04<taupehat>so it'd make sense that they want to avoid anything that tosses the machine around
01:07[~]mikegrb can't find anything on their website about it
01:09<@mikegrb>anyway, fun times
01:09<taupehat>I'm sure
01:09<taupehat>http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A218882
01:09<@mikegrb>got to put tags on "dead" peoples' toes
01:09<taupehat>did you tickle their feet?
01:10<@mikegrb>no
01:10<taupehat>"Hey! Stop that! I'm supposed to be dead here!"
01:38[~]tronix sees dead people.
01:38<tronix>:)
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10:18<warewolf>haha
10:18<warewolf>I had a coworker who after seeing the sixth sense started acting all freakey around the office
10:18<warewolf>one day he finally let out the joke
10:18<warewolf>he walked up to me, and whispered into my ear (sounding EXTREMELY afraid)
10:18<warewolf>"I see ...GAY PEOPLE!"
10:21<bendy24>you know that the guy the kid talked to in the movie was actually dead...
10:21<bendy24>and didnt know it
10:22<bendy24>so that means...
10:23<cmantito>hah
10:25<bendy24>warewolf: i need an interior designer for my new house anyway, so good for you!
10:30<bendy24>:>
10:34<cmantito>hmm...pure curiosity
10:34<cmantito>now there's a flood.
11:10<taupehat>9haha
11:10<taupehat>what were you thinking?
11:11<cmantito>I wanted to see if anyone was using a BNC that returned a version response.
11:11<taupehat>and?
11:11<cmantito>nope :P
11:12<taupehat>bah
11:12<taupehat>my version got all boring
11:13<cmantito>about 4 months ago, I collected version responses from about 10 different IRC clients, and told x-chat to return them all.
11:13<cmantito>it was entertaining when someone versioned me
11:13<taupehat>heh
11:14<taupehat>ok
11:14[~]taupehat afk
11:14<cmantito>but my send queue got ridiculous if someone version flooded me so I took it off.
11:14<robertj>who cares about what version of client someone is using?
11:16<cmantito>it makes it useful to help someone if they're having problems
11:16<cmantito>it's a good way to find a good client, ie, over half the channel's using irssi, so I can assume it'd be reccomended as a decent client.
11:16<cmantito>amongst other things.
11:18<kvandivo>and, how popular other people thing songs are determines how good a song actually is
11:19<cmantito>no, but it might be something to be considered a reccomendation. I wouldn't ask a channel full of windows users what a good irc client is, and I would ask a channel full of people who listen to britney spears for a good song.
11:19<robertj>people who need a client recommendation dont't usually use ctcp ;)
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13:27<Zurk>hi guys...just wondering why my linode (debian small) has an smtp port open....i dont see smtp running..
13:27<bendy24>what ip?
13:27<Zurk>70.85.31.64
13:27<bendy24>yep
13:28<bendy24>220 li11-64.members.linode.com ESMTP Exim 3.36 #1 Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:27:50 -0500
13:28<bendy24>ps aux | grep exim
13:28<Zurk>hmm..ah
13:28<Zurk>is exim safe to use ?
13:29<bendy24>if it is configured properly
13:29<Zurk>is the default ok ?
13:29<bendy24>i dunno
13:29<bendy24>i use postfix
13:29<kvandivo>if you don't know anything about it, you should probably get rid of it
13:29<Zurk>ok...is postfix secure in the default config ?
13:29<bendy24>umm
13:29<bendy24>see kvandivo's comment again
13:30<Zurk>yep..i got rid of exim
13:30<bendy24>at least firewall port 25
13:31<Zurk>is it necessary to firewall ? theres nothing running on it
13:31<Zurk>9/12/22/27 are the only open ports
13:31<Zurk>er...13
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13:31<bendy24>what is 27?
13:31[~]Zurk wonders if firewalls improve security with no services running
13:32<Zurk>whoops..37... time
13:32<Zurk>discard/daytime/ssh/time
13:32<bendy24>well, that is up to you
13:33<Zurk>anyone know what the firewall package on debian is ?
13:33<bendy24>it nice to firewall a service that you are working on to test
13:33<bendy24>iptables...
13:33<Zurk>no i mean the easy to confiure script thingy
13:33<bendy24>there are many
13:33<kvandivo>i show 9,13,22,37,135,137,138,139,445,1434,4444,6666,6667, and 6668 being open
13:33<bendy24>heh
13:33<Zurk>eek. whats all those
13:34<bendy24>exploits!
13:34<kvandivo>actually.. most of those are filtered
13:34<kvandivo>everything above 37 is filtered
13:34<kvandivo>:)
13:34<bendy24>heh
13:34[~]Zurk wonders whats doing the filtering
13:35<kvandivo>http://www.linode.com/products/faq.cfm?id=25 linode is blocking some of them
13:35<bendy24>Zurk: shorewall.net
13:35<Zurk>oh. hmm..thats good
13:36<bendy24>there are some good tutorials on there
13:36<bendy24>it is usually the first thing i setup
13:36<Zurk>anyway, whats the easiest script i can get which will firewall everything except ssh and http/https ports ?
13:37[~]Zurk presumes nothing else is required for a webserver
13:37<kvandivo>google
13:37<bendy24>is your friend
13:38<Zurk>is dhcp required for the linode to work ?
13:38<bendy24>no
13:38<bendy24>you can staically set it
13:38<bendy24>*static
13:39<Zurk>why's it running dhclient...is that cos its the default in the base image ?
13:39<bendy24>probably
13:39<bendy24>and resolv.conf
13:40<Zurk>what ports does the dhcp client require ?
13:40<bendy24>none
13:41<bendy24>see google
13:41[~]Zurk goes off to poke around on google
13:41<bendy24>yay!
13:41<kvandivo>bendy24: technically it doesn't require a port for sending
13:41<kvandivo>does, rather
13:42<bendy24>isnt it another protocol iteslf?
13:42<kvandivo>well, any network connection uses a port on the local and remote machine
13:43[~]bendy24 shrugs
13:43<bendy24>what do i know
13:43<bendy24>:)
13:43<kvandivo>but you gave him the answer that made the most sense
13:43<bendy24>yes... see google
13:44<kvandivo>yes
13:54<warewolf>oh god
13:55<warewolf>I can't stop laughing
13:55<warewolf>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8818473453677829715&q=state+of+the+union
14:05<bendy24><3 the bush
14:07<Beirdo>bendy24: too much information, dude
14:07<bendy24>dont you?
14:08<Beirdo>hehe
14:08<Beirdo>no comment
14:08<bendy24>:)
14:08<bendy24>speaking of food
14:08<Beirdo>stupid cfengine will be the death of me
14:08<bendy24>im getting hungry
14:08<Beirdo>school's almost out
14:09<Beirdo>Friday is coming to a close
14:09<bendy24>65
14:09<bendy24>^5
14:09<Beirdo>time to go home and relax almost
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15:24<@mikegrb>asy: hello
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15:29<grantham>Hi!
15:30<grantham>Anyone know if linode blocks access to port 53? I'm trying to run a secondary DNS on a linode and I can't seem to get to it from the outside.
15:30<bendy24>nope
15:30<@mikegrb>nope, shouldn't be blocked
15:30<@mikegrb>you can try tcptraceroute
15:30<bendy24>mikegrb: too slow, old man
15:31<grantham>You wouldn't happen to know the gentoo package that contains that, do you?
15:31<kvandivo>grantham: for future reference.. http://www.linode.com/products/faq.cfm?id=25
15:36<grantham>Ah, forgot to add my IP address to listen-on! That's what I get for trying to sysadmin on 5 hours sleep.
15:36<grantham>Thanks everyone.
15:51<NeonNero>sleep is for wimps... although, collapsing in front of or over your keyboard isn't exactly macho, either...
15:51<NeonNero>neato! i want one of those! -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVI6xw9Zph8
16:06<@caker>!weather 37216
16:06<linbot>caker: Temperature: 39°F / 4°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h; Tonight - Snow. Snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds around 5 mph. Chance of snow 100 percent. as of 3:38 PM CST on February 10, 2006;
16:06<@caker>Chance of snow *100* percent :(
16:07<grantham>Even if the sun was to supernova, it would still snow.
16:08<tierra>!weather 84010
16:08<linbot>tierra: Temperature: 34°F / 1°C | Humidity: 37% | Pressure: 30.52in / 1033hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h; Tonight - Mostly clear. Winds east 15-25 mph near canyons. Lows 10-15. as of 2:33 PM MST on February 10, 2006;
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16:11<NeonNero>!weather
16:11<linbot>NeonNero: (weather <US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country>) -- Returns the approximate weather conditions for a given city.
16:12<NeonNero>!weather alesund, norway
16:12<linbot>NeonNero: Temperature: 36°F / 2°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 10:50 PM CET;
16:12<kvandivo>!weather nome, alaska
16:12<linbot>kvandivo: Temperature: 30°F / -1°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.16in / 987hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 24mph / 39km/h; Today - Mostly cloudy with scattered snow showers. Local blowing snow. Highs around 30. East winds 25 to 30 mph. Gusts to 40 mph near Golovin. as of 10:53 am AST on February 10, 2006;
16:12<kvandivo>!weather barrow, alaska
16:12<linbot>kvandivo: Temperature: -15°F / -26°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h; Today - Mostly clear. Blowing snow this afternoon. Highs 5 below to 10 below zero. East winds 10 mph increasing to 20 to 25 mph. as of 10:52 am AST on February 10, 2006;
16:13[~]NeonNero twitches
16:13<@mikegrb>!weather 32504
16:13<linbot>mikegrb: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h; Tonight - Windy. Periods of rain. Isolated thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 40s. Inland...south winds 15 to 25 mph becoming southwest after midnight. Along the coast...south winds 20 to 30 mph becoming southwest after midnight. Chance of rain 100 percent. as of 3:45 PM (1 more message)
16:13<@mikegrb>!more
16:13<linbot>mikegrb: CST on February 10, 2006;
16:18<Beirdo>!weather 00646
16:18<linbot>Beirdo: Temperature: 75°F / 24°C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...then partly cloudy with isolated showers after midnight. Lows 73 lower elevations ranging to 62 higher elevations. East winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent. as of 3:52 PM AST on February 10, 2006;
16:18<Beirdo>ahhh
16:18<Beirdo>I need to get my ass down there SOON
16:21<kvandivo>you might as well go along
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16:23<linbot>New news from wiki: Set Up ISP Package <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Set_Up_ISP_Package> || Set Up ISP Package <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Set_Up_ISP_Package>
16:33<kvandivo>anyone in texas? steve fossett is overhead.. http://pics.omnux.com/Vacations2005-Airventure/CRW_7751
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17:04[~]taupehat woots in your general direction
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17:36<linbot>New news from wiki: Template:StartSidebar <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Template:StartSidebar> || Template:StartSidebar <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Template:StartSidebar> || Conventions used in this tutorial <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Conventions_used_in_this_tutorial>
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18:06<warewolf>uh
18:06<warewolf>I hope that's an employee dickign with the wiki
18:09<warewolf>who is AutoDMC
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18:22<linbot>New news from wiki: Template:Std disclaimer <http://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Template:Std_disclaimer>
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20:20<tronix>!weather 90210
20:20<linbot>tronix: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h; Tonight - Clear in the evening then low clouds and fog. Lows around 50. as of 2:30 PM PST on February 10, 2006;
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23:04<oneman_>howdy
23:05<oneman_>Im experiencing what seems to be very very poor performance unrelated to the application im running on my linode
23:05<oneman_>it seems as if it maybe more of a bandwidth issue rather than a cpu time one
23:05<oneman_>since my load isnt very high
23:06<oneman_>however it may verywell be my fault
23:06<oneman_>its definatly intermittant
23:07<oneman_>for whatever reason everything is blazing fast now
23:08<darkbeholder>are you out of io tokens? "cat /proc/io_status"
23:10<oneman_>io_count=10045482 io_rate=7 io_tokens=399961 token_refill=512 token_max=400000
23:10<oneman_>unfamiliar with this
23:10<oneman_>looks like im in good shape here?
23:10<darkbeholder>i think so
23:11<darkbeholder>im kinda new to all this, i had problems before with very poor performance but it was cause something was swap thrashing and ate up all my tokens
23:11<oneman_>nominal speed is very satisfactory
23:11<oneman_>im getting intermittant very long wait times
23:11<darkbeholder>your going to have to wait for someone who has been here longer to help
23:12<oneman_>im not to worried about it right now, its no emergency
23:12<oneman_>im not deploying this site for a week or so
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23:43<warewolf>oneman_: if you want to monitor your io token usage, sign up for ratemylinode
23:43<taupehat>hehe
23:44<taupehat>was waiting for that
23:44<warewolf>oneman_: it's a community website for linode people I developed
23:44<warewolf>taupehat: well why didn't you mention it!
23:44<warewolf>!@#$
23:44<taupehat>forgot!
23:44<oneman_>daw okie
23:44<taupehat>(discern the truth)
23:44<oneman_>all my brainpower is currenly focused on routes.rb
23:44<warewolf>oneman_: http://www.ratemylinode.com/
23:44[~]warewolf shudders
23:44<warewolf>ruby?
23:44<oneman_>aye
23:45[~]warewolf shudders some more
23:45<taupehat>haha
23:45<taupehat>msn search
23:45<taupehat>do "what is taupe"
23:45<warewolf>I don't /do/ MSN.
23:45<[|^__^|]>or ruby
23:45<taupehat>me neither
23:45<taupehat>it just showed up in my referers
23:45<taupehat>apparently my website shows up #1 for that query on that search engine
23:45<@mikegrb>lolz
23:45<taupehat>lol
23:45<@mikegrb>roflz
23:45<[|^__^|]>rofl
23:45<@mikegrb>mmm cake
23:45<[|^__^|]>cake
23:45<taupehat>&c
23:46<warewolf>er
23:46<[|^__^|]>ATTENTION:
23:46<[|^__^|]>I have completed one (1) gallon of gatorade today
23:46<taupehat>wonder if the olympics are on anywhere
23:46<taupehat>woo
23:46<taupehat>I'm working on a fifth of rum
23:46<warewolf>oh the tripple play between mikegrb and linbot required someone named lolsomething
23:46<[|^__^|]>with luck this will help me heal from the terrible food poisoning I got last night
23:46<[|^__^|]>I have also taken a vitamin
23:48<warewolf>time to school myself on eclipse
23:48[~]taupehat chortles and wanders off to eat pizza
23:53<warewolf>the question is how the hell do I .. intelligently install this system-wide w/o untarring this damn 180mb tarball in my homedir
23:56<[|^__^|]> /tmp/?
---Logclosed Sat Feb 11 00:00:59 2006