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---Logopened Tue Apr 04 00:00:24 2006
00:08<fo0bar>caker: oh, when I changed my account last month, I also forgot to mention I wanted to give up the 3 extra IPs I haven't used in years. ticket?
00:08<@caker>fo0bar: that would be best
00:08<fo0bar>ok
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00:13<@mikegrb>you can't give up ips, it is not allowed
00:13<fo0bar>whoever responds to that ticket: please forgive me for saying "currenting" instead of "currently" :)
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00:14<fo0bar>mikegrb: so... you're saying I can continue to use them, but I won't be charged for them?
00:14<@mikegrb>we willl charge you tripple
00:15<fo0bar>Label: Latest 2.6 Series (2.6.16-domU-linode1)
00:15<fo0bar>Based on: Linux 2.1.16 (changelog)
00:15<fo0bar>^^^ hahaha
00:15<@caker>whoops
00:15<@mikegrb>lolz
00:15<Spads>Lol.
00:17<fo0bar>ironically, I did the exact same thing last week
00:17<npmr>that's ironic?
00:17<Spads>It is apt, but not ironic.
00:18<fo0bar>npmr: it's like RAIIIIIN
00:18<Spads>ray-e-aaaain
00:18<npmr>ray-e-ain
00:18<npmr>yeah that
00:18<Spads>Ray E. Ayn
00:18<Spads>he was the groom.
00:18<Spads>THUS THE IRONY
00:19<fo0bar>I see.
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00:31<npmr>i can only think of one circumstance in which ray-e-ain on your wedding day might actually qualify as irony
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00:47<Spads>npmr: verbal, situational, or dramatic irony?
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00:56<npmr>Spads, situational
01:15[~]caker wonders how to get Google to suggest "Linode" when it's misspelled
01:16<npmr>buy the adword?
01:16<@caker>Been using adwords since day 1
01:20<warewolf>heh
01:20<warewolf>google does spelling based on shit it indexes
01:20<warewolf>so apparently linode isn't quite indexed enough.
01:20<warewolf>rik, on irc here was trying to get a job as a perl coder
01:20<warewolf>he came to me, seeking assistance in fixing the google spell perl module
01:21<@caker>well, I mean "ratemenude" has 11,200 documents, whereas linode has 83,700 ... linodee has 3
01:21<warewolf>"The google spell module currently fails one of it's test checks. Make it pass."
01:21<warewolf>know what the fix was?
01:21<warewolf>google had indexed the perl module itself, and thought the misspelling in the perl module was spelled correctly.
01:22<warewolf>so I had rik change the text the perl module was trying to "spell check" to "amrican arilines"
01:22<warewolf>and now it works correctly again (the weight of "american airlines" is high enough that if google indexed the misspelling, the REAL american airlines text would overpower it)
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01:52<fo0bar>http://www.google.com/search?q=finux <-- no suggestion :(
01:52<fo0bar>at least finnix doesn't suggest finux :)
01:53<@caker>finnixx -- Did you mean: finnix
01:53<@caker>bastards
01:54<@caker>linnode -- Did you mean: line
01:54<@caker>...
01:54<warewolf>yeah I like it how 'ratemylinode' comes back with ratemenude
01:55<fo0bar>Results 1 - 10 of about 83,800 for linode
01:55<@caker>if finnix can have a "Did you mean", Linode should... doesn't make any sense
01:55<fo0bar>Results 1 - 10 of about 161,000 for finnix
01:55<fo0bar>I WIN THE INTERNET
01:55<@caker>nice
01:55<fo0bar>12 months ago, I think that number was somewhere around 1,000
01:55<warewolf>LINODE FOR TEH WIN
01:56<warewolf>hmm
01:56<warewolf>caker- lemme bounce you a .gif in an email, tell me what you think
01:56<@caker>k
01:57<fo0bar>caker: linode is generally known as the #1 VPS provider. is there a clear #2 you know of?
01:57<fo0bar>I know of many smaller VPSes, but I don't know how popular they are
01:57<warewolf>caker- mail sent
01:58<@caker>warewolf: neat -- I like it
01:59<warewolf>caker- compare to http://forums.guild29.com/
01:59<warewolf>caker- he seems to be bent on this top-right navigation thing
02:09<TheFirst>for a #1 vps (which i agree with) you never came up when i started searching around
02:09<TheFirst>got stuck with a shithole vps prior to this and only found this by chance
02:09<@caker>TheFirst: how were you searching?
02:10<TheFirst>started with google, that found me hosthideout...think i saw etecc or whatever they were on there and went with them after i couldnt find anything cheaper...was several weeks of googling and reading various forums
02:10<TheFirst>wasn't until i got pissed and left etecc or whatever it was and found webhostingtalk that i saw linode reviews
02:11<@caker>we're top 10-20 in google for various search terms .. vps, virtual server, etc
02:11<@caker>also, adwords
02:11<@caker>ahh
02:11<TheFirst>i probably wasn't searching for that...i was a 'server newb' so to speak...knew the os but never done datacenter hosting or anything
02:11<TheFirst>had 2 bad experiences before i found this place actually ... sh3lls and etecc
02:13<TheFirst>now i'm here and for the most part satisfied ... and i'll leave it at that since i never bite the hand that feeds ;)
02:13<@caker>man, I can't believe how much linode.com has been ripped off from my competitors
02:14<TheFirst>what you mean?
02:14<@caker>http://etecc.net/vds.php http://www.linode.com/products/
02:14<TheFirst>etecc is nothing like you guys...
02:14<@caker>http://www.provps.com/plans.php http://www.linode.com/products/linodes.cfm
02:14<TheFirst>they're support is laughable
02:14<TheFirst>they have no control panel
02:14<@caker>etc, etc
02:15<TheFirst>when i was with them they oversold and got their servers cutoff ... down for days then when they moved it was to some temp place or so they said so they refused to setup rdns ... that was my last straw
02:15<TheFirst>just got that something shady is going on here feeling with them
02:19<warewolf>hmm
02:20<warewolf>caker- something just hit me; do you have some cidr netblocks that include all the address space for Linodes?
02:20<warewolf>caker- these changes I'm going to make to support xen (and more graphs and stuff) are nolonger linode specific.
02:21<warewolf>caker- I'd prefer that I keep the service linode-only, and don't become "hey, monitor your joe-random-server here".
02:21<TheFirst>cant you restrict to linode's ip blocks?
02:21<warewolf>that's what I mean
02:21<warewolf>I'm asking the horse :)
02:22<TheFirst>ah i apologize...it is the wee morning hours
02:22<warewolf>no problem :)
02:23<TheFirst>or maybe you could require a uname -r and grep that for linode?
02:23<warewolf>that can be faked
02:23<TheFirst>true
02:23<TheFirst>guess ip is the onlything that couldnt be
02:25<TheFirst>but then they'd have to know what to fake to....so it wouldn't necc. be easy to fake
02:25<warewolf>I can check the source IP of the web request coming in submitting data
02:25<warewolf>that's easy
02:26<fo0bar>warewolf: I believe all netblocks are at least /24s and have gateways at .1. You could do a reverse->forward->reverse check and make sure the IP's .1 is *.linode.com
02:27<fo0bar>but I could be wrong, or that could change in the future
02:27<TheFirst>about the best option i'd think though
02:27<warewolf>fo0bar: it'd be easier to get a netblock list from caker :) That way I can build a static Net::CIDR::Lite object and just say if($linode_cidrmask->contains("1.2.3.4")) { ok }
02:28<warewolf>Net::CIDR::Lite is spiffy keen
02:28<TheFirst>warewolf: or close off at the firewall to anything except those blocks...
02:28<warewolf>you build the object, then add cidr blocks to it
02:28<warewolf>TheFirst: I can't firewall off stuff, I run too many different and unrelated websites on my linode
02:29<TheFirst>run the client/server on a diff port?
02:29<TheFirst>oh n/m...you're using a webpage setup for that...
02:29<warewolf>yeah
02:30<TheFirst>gotta make it all difficult like
02:30<TheFirst>then again you could just make the client talk on a subdomain...have that subdomain on a diff port and firewall
02:30<TheFirst>but more work than what you propose
02:33<TheFirst>you should make a c version of the client...so us poor saps with no ram dont gotta load up the perl interpreter and stuff ;)
02:34<warewolf>erm.
02:34<warewolf>I honestly don't think that perl takes up that much memory.
02:35<TheFirst>it was enough to be real sluggish on my node...havent tried on the xen part though...prolly wouldnt be so bad
02:35<TheFirst>stupid apache and mysql hogs :(
02:35<warewolf>what? no. That's not your linode, it's mine :)
02:35<TheFirst>no it's mine...
02:35<warewolf>all the linodes checking in at once basically DDoS my linode
02:35<TheFirst>i had/have like 1meg ram free
02:37<TheFirst>maybe you could reverse the process? have the node run a daemon and your request info from it? then you could schedule so as to not ddos yourself
02:57<@caker>warewolf: yeah, I'll email them
02:57<warewolf>caker- awesome
03:07<encode>hooray for rml!
03:11<@mikegrb>http://feeds.feedburner.com/boingboing/iBag?m=511 suckage
03:12<fo0bar>mikegrb: I'll reboot tomorrow morning. thanks.
03:12<TheFirst>mikegrb: ewww don't present me with such disturbing news...now i wont be able to sleep!
03:12<@mikegrb>sure thing
03:14<@mikegrb>"there are 538 63-character domains registered, including DIDYOUKNOWTHATYOUCANONLYHAVESIXTY-THREECHARACTERSINADOMAIN-NAME.com. "
03:15<TheFirst>that's one long ass domain
03:25<encode>haha
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03:41<PenguinOfDoom>Hm. I'm seeing a bizarre packet size problem. I'm doing a 1000-byte traceroute from hosts A and B to my linode host L.
03:41<PenguinOfDoom>A's trace stops at L's next hop router (the router is included). B's goes through just fine.
03:42<PenguinOfDoom>What could possibly cause this?
03:45<PenguinOfDoom>argh. traceroute works. _mtr_ fails.
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04:10<sonorous>wow, 26 * 64MiB linodes available... All UML?
04:10|-|jekil [~alessandr@pcport.univ.trieste.it] has joined #linode
04:10<sonorous>er, 80MiB, even
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06:19<@linbot>New news from forums: ACLs on ext3 on a Debian Box in Performance and Tuning <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2203>
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08:11<warewolf>god I hate it when applications will not die when you kill -1, or -15 them.
08:11<warewolf>I hate having to -9 them.
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08:17<gzk>hi there, vncserver in an ubuntu server, i get "vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused" from the client. server is running ok. thanks
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08:33<viv>hi
08:33<viv>is anybody there ?
08:35<npmr>is that really the question you came here to ask?
08:35<viv>no. i want to know what is IRC chat?
08:36<JasonF>Internet Relay Chat
08:36<viv>does all users i am seeing here belong to this linode comp or is it a group?
08:37<npmr>the users you see listed are all joined to the #linode irc channel on an irc network called oftc
08:37<npmr>you are also joined to this channel
08:37<viv>yeah i am seeing it
08:37<pclissold>caker / mikegrb?
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08:40<gzk>hi there, vncserver in an ubuntu server, i get "vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused" from the client. server is running ok. thanks
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09:31<taupehat_>anyone else having trouble connecting to their linode
09:31<taupehat_>?
09:32<chris>Seems fine on host4
09:32[~]taupehat_ is seeing crazy routing failures in different places
09:36<taupehat_>oddly, I can't connect to the internet traffic report
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09:48[~]khedron wonders why host27 is taking 10+ minutes to process his shutdown request..
09:58<taupehat_>khedron: is host27 at HEnet?
09:58<taupehat_>ergh
09:58<taupehat_>ping caker mikegrb
10:11<khedron>dunno, I'm not at the 30+ minute mark
10:11<khedron>grr
10:11[~]taupehat_ has to go to work...
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10:38<gpd>caker: just rebooted my linode to get /proc/io_status back and it failed to come back up. I had to hit the boot button for it to start
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10:46<taupehat>ok
10:46<taupehat>works from work
10:46<taupehat>damn qwest anyhow
11:33<warewolf>rock.
11:33<warewolf>http://www.richardharman.com/mp3/underworld_(super_mario_bros)_256.mp3
11:33<warewolf>I don't know where I got it but it kicks ass
11:40<Spads>bah, power chords
11:40<Spads>laaaame
11:40<Spads>I liked the a capella versions better
11:41<Spads>stupid 80s buzzy guitar...
11:46<Spads>okay, mulletheaded mario cover: DELETED
11:47<warewolf>are you quite finished yet?
11:47<kvandivo>give him a couple more minutes
11:48<warewolf>kvandivo: yeah, I was getting concerned. His troll force is not strong today.
11:48<fo0bar>huh
11:48<fo0bar>finnix got over 1000 downloads in the last 24 hours. did I get slashdotted or something?
11:48<Spads>fo0bar: iPod!!!
11:49<fo0bar>Spads: possibly, but I would have thought it would have tapered off after I said "april fools dumbass!"
11:52<Spads>your referrers haven't all adopted that
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12:12<pclissold>caker / mikegrb?
12:23<@caker>pclissold: hello
12:23<@caker>pclissold: btw, your forums emails are bouncing
12:23<taupehat>frell
12:23<taupehat>no aar81xx debian driver anywhere
12:24<taupehat>hi caker. OK to pmsg you?
12:24<@caker>taupehat: sure
12:24<pclissold>caker server is being rebuilt on xen
12:25<pclissold>caker: my account on the forums is disabled
12:28<@caker>pclissold: Do you want it disabled?
12:29<pclissold>caker: no, I thought it got disabled because the emails were bouncing
12:29<pclissold>caker: but now I can't change the email address
12:29<@caker>pclissold: on, reactivated and verified the email
12:29<@caker>s/on/ok/
12:29<@caker>pclissold: anyhow -- what's up?
12:32<pclissold>caker:I just decided to start over with my installation but I got diverted by work
12:32<pclissold>caker: so instead of taking a day, it's taking a week
12:33<pclissold>caker: plus I'm determined to get initrd to work this time
12:33<@caker>hah
12:33<@caker>well, it did come in useful with Finnix :)
12:44<@linbot>New news from forums: Reboot: host27 in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2204>
13:01<npmr>taupehat, are you sure that board doesn't work with either the adapter i2o or the vanilla i2o block driver?
13:01<npmr>s/adapter/adaptec/
13:04<taupehat>npmr: nah, it's a newish board
13:04<taupehat>and it's adaptec, you know how they are :-|
13:05<npmr>i thought that most (all?) of their new boards were i2o block devices
13:05<taupehat>if only
13:05<taupehat>this is actually an embedded chip
13:06<taupehat>but that doesn't matter in terms of how the kernel sees it
13:06<npmr>right, still on the pci bus
13:06<taupehat>google "aar81xx debian" and you'll see what I mean
13:07<npmr>a crow may be drowned by aping a cormorant
13:07<npmr>^-- emad
13:08<taupehat>hehe
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13:22<vasona>hello
13:22<vasona>anyone?
13:22<taupehat>no one
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13:23<vasona>is anyone who works for linode avalible?
13:24<@caker>vasona: yes -- what's up?
13:24<vasona>why is our corp site down?
13:24<vasona>migration?
13:25<vasona>we are on host 27
13:25<@caker>http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2204
13:25<vasona>i get in this morning and the site is down
13:25<vasona>HEY!
13:25<vasona>we need up time
13:25<@caker>don't we all
13:26<vasona>well you sales mailbox is full?
13:26<vasona>how are you guys doing?
13:26[~]npmr votes for suspend-to-disk and demand-based host allocation
13:27<vasona>i tried calling (615) 293-3169 and the voice mail is full
13:28<vasona>hello?
13:29<@caker>yes, we're working on getting the server back up. We'll post in that forum when it's completed.
13:29<vasona>np
13:29<vasona>so i don't need to do anything but wait... I understand
13:30<vasona>ok, but you guy need to clear out you voice mail.. it looks tacky
13:30<@caker>already done :)
13:31<kvandivo>everyone: test caker's statement!
13:31<vasona>very good. I like you guys. Just added another customer to your service. Keep up the good work
13:31<vasona>bye
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13:55<gpd><offtopic>Is there a way to sync OSX Tiger Address/Cal with Palm device without using MissingSync (markspace.com)?
13:57<@mikegrb>yes
13:57<@mikegrb>install the palm desktop stuff
13:57<@mikegrb>then in isync select the "enable syncing with palm devices" menu option
13:57<gpd>yeah - but that doesn't sync to the Apple Address Book - or iCal
13:57<@mikegrb>uninstall missingsync first
13:57<@mikegrb>sure it does
13:58<gpd>it did on Panther - but they broke it on Tiger
13:58<@mikegrb>works perfectly for me
13:58<gpd>last time I tried...
13:58<gpd>hmm... let me try again
13:58<@mikegrb>make sure you have the latest version of the palm desktop software and isync, I guess
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14:01<gpd>I have iSync 2.2 (108.0) and Palm Desktop 4.2.1revA - same as you?
14:01<@mikegrb>I would have to look
14:01<@mikegrb>haven't installed it on my desktop yet
14:02<afv-13>identify 19205.101ab
14:02<afv-13>fok
14:02<@mikegrb>lolz
14:02<taupehat>lol
14:02<taupehat>now you need to lookup how to change that
14:03<afv-13>it's bitlbee's fault
14:03<afv-13>needs password in # to login to the im's
14:04<@mikegrb>gpd:
14:04<@mikegrb>Changes from version 4.2.1 Rev B: services.oftc.net services.oftc.net Fixed file and folders permission issue which could impair iSync functionality when installing Palm Desktop without administrator rights. If you encountered this issue, install this version (Rev D) to fix it.
14:04<gpd>mikegrb: it seems to be working! One of the 10.4.x updates must have fixed iSync :)
14:05<@mikegrb>looks like it was palm that was broken but perhaps apple added a work around in a newer isync
14:06<gpd>well - thanks for the encouragement
14:07<@mikegrb>no problem
14:07<gpd>I tried sudoku on the palm on Sunday - which has rekindled interest in the device... however I fear i should put down the crack pipe before it gets messy
14:07<Spads>haha
14:07<Spads>I have sudoku on my iRiver
14:07<Spads>rockbox is crazy, complete with DOOM
14:08<fo0bar>neat
14:08<fo0bar>normally you pay extra for DOOM
14:08<Spads>well, no wad files
14:09[~]mikegrb wads up fo0bar
14:09<fo0bar>oh, I thought you got DOOM in the "inevitable destruction" sense
14:10<Spads>no way man
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14:10[~]Spads ❤ rockbox
14:12<gpd>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbox - interesting, not seen b4
14:12<Spads>rockbox.org baby
14:13<Spads>I have an iRiver iHP120
14:13[~]gpd curses lack of support for iPod 3G :(
14:13<Spads>ha ha iPod
14:13<Spads>you have already lost.
14:14<gpd>woah - that thing is hideous!
14:14<gpd>http://www.dukebox.com/player/iriver-ihp120
14:14<Spads>heh
14:14<@caker>it's about the music, man.
14:14<Spads>yep
14:14<Spads>it's still got some of the best audio equipment of any portable player
14:14<Spads>it's a few years old by now, though
14:15<Spads>I got it a long time ago
14:15<Spads>and it's still great
14:15<Spads>thanks to rockbox!
14:15<gpd>any fun to be had with a palm tungsten E? other than palm os 5?
14:16<gpd>my gf has one - but she never uses it
14:17<gpd>ooh - http://palmtelinux.sourceforge.net/
14:17<Spads>palm teh linnucks
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15:01<Spads>so fake!
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15:23<@caker>there must be another phpbb work out .. lotsa hits
15:25<@caker>actually -- it looks like an pretty old one (the highlight code bug)
15:28<afv-13>k so i'm tired of lighttpd, which apache is best for a linode?
15:28<@caker>afv-13: either .. just make sure you edit the num of threads down to fit in memory
15:29<afv-13>will limiting the threads also limit the php threads?
15:29<afv-13>i plan to keep using php5-cgi
15:29<@caker>no clue
15:31<taupehat>haha
15:31<taupehat>I've been
15:31<taupehat>uhh
15:31<taupehat>quoted!
15:31<taupehat>http://www.feenode.net/
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16:11<taupehat>[remote power detached]
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16:22<anderiv>random question...does anyone know how to get a listing of all the processes on the system, sorted by process age?
16:24<@caker>isn't that the default sort method?
16:24<@caker>ps aux looks to me like it's sorted by age
16:25<anderiv>hrm - you're right. I'm an idiot. I just need to see if I can get a more detailed listing of process age.
16:34<@mikegrb>I think ps aux just sorts by pid
16:34<@mikegrb>which is typically by age but you do need to be aware of wrapping
16:35<@caker>root 11231 0.0 0.0 1696 656 tty0 S Feb17 0:00 /bin/bash -login
16:35<@caker>root 3827 0.0 0.0 7692 728 ? S Feb27 0:40 /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd
16:35<@caker>^-- ps aux
16:35<@mikegrb>spiffy
16:52<lucca>ww will turn off line truncation, if necessary
16:52<lucca>f makes pretty tree shapes
16:53<@caker>the more ws, the better
16:53<lucca>ps fauxwww, for example
16:53<lucca>heh, exactly
16:54<@caker>cool .. looks like Xen-3.0.2 final will be released in the next few days
16:55<@caker>I'd say we're ready to roll Xen into production, but we'll give it some more time
16:56<kvandivo>i'd wait for version 5.0.3
16:56<taupehat>chicken
16:56<kvandivo>better safe than sorry
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16:57<lucca>caker: will xen-production have similar plans to what we had on the uml side?
16:57<@caker>lucca: no, we're planning resource increases across the board
16:58<tierra>yay!
16:58<lucca>hurrah!
17:00<tierra>ugh... now I'm going to get all impatient with the public beta with that knowledge
17:02<kvandivo>did someone say public beta? does that mean i don't need a linode account?
17:03[~]kvandivo hides.
17:03<@caker>kvandivo: you're not public
17:04<@caker>false declaration!!
17:04<kvandivo>i consider myself a somewhat private individual
17:06<tierra>haha
17:08<taupehat>d/oh!
17:08<taupehat>just fed a mouse cable to a fan in my new server
17:08<taupehat>thankfully, the fan and server is fine, but it was hungry!
17:09<taupehat>the mouse has kicked the bucket
17:09<@caker>better the cable than your thumb (BTDT)
17:09<taupehat>owch, yeah
17:09<taupehat>that would have sucked the big one
17:10<@linbot>New news from forums: updated mysql and now swapon: cannot stat in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2200>
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18:36<@caker>huh ...
18:36<@caker>cal 9 1752 <-- run that
18:36<TheFirst>what about it?
18:36<TheFirst>oh i see
18:36<gpd>calendar change?
18:37<gpd>julian to gregorian...
18:38<gpd>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1752
18:44<@caker>host21
18:44<@caker> 19:43:08 up 701 days, 3:12, 3 users, load average: 2.91, 2.73, 2.58
18:44<@caker>going on two years in a few weeks ...
18:45<chris>host4 needs more ram
18:45<chris>That way you can give us free ram
18:45<chris>Perfect plan
18:45<TheFirst>caker: and you just jinxed it
18:46<chris>host21 is on fire
18:46<@caker>!weather 37211
18:46<@linbot>caker: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 18% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h; Tonight - Mostly clear. Patchy frost after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. as of 3:59 PM CDT on April 4, 2006;
18:47<efudd>19:42 < marcus2> 31 December 1750 was followed by 1 January 1750
18:47<efudd>19:42 < marcus2> 24 March 1750 was followed by 25 March 1751
18:47<efudd>19:42 < marcus2> 31 December 1751 was followed by 1 January 1752
18:47<efudd>19:42 < marcus2> 2 September 1752 was followed by 14 September 1752
18:47<efudd>19:42 < marcus2> 31 December 1752 was followed by 1 January 1753
18:48<chris>!weather 43065
18:48<@linbot>chris: Temperature: 50.2°F / 10.1°C | Humidity: 41% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h; Tonight - Mostly clear this evening...then becoming partly cloudy. A slight chance of rain and snow showers. Breezy with lows in the lower 30s. West winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent. as of 3:18 PM EDT on April 4, 2006;
18:48<chris>I hate ohio
18:48<TheFirst>chris: i'm sure it hates you too
18:53<chris>Excellent
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19:00<gpd>any particular reason for the talk about 1752?
19:03<efudd>look at it?
19:05<gpd>16:37 gpd> julian to gregorian...
19:06<Spads>it was a madhouse
19:06<efudd>Right.
19:06<efudd>:)
19:06<efudd>that's the "reason for the talk" I guess.
19:06<efudd>or something.
19:07<gpd>anybody listened to Ricky Gervais Podcast?
19:09<gpd>Karl Pilkington would have trouble with that 1752 thing :)
19:10<Spads>who?
19:10<gpd>he's the spaz from the podcast... (means nothing unless you've heard it)
19:11<gpd>but i was amused over the weekend and it is apparently no. 1 downloaded podcast
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20:41<superbeef>whats the xen linode channel named?
20:41<superbeef>my linode has been migrating for an hour
20:41<superbeef>i think its stuck
20:42<Spads>how big?
20:42<superbeef>3 gigs
20:51<@mikegrb>superbeef: #linode-xenbeta
20:51<gpd>is there a way to get around the lish screen within screen caper?
20:52<@mikegrb>what do you mean?
20:52<gpd>In LISH I did screen irssi... now when I detach - it detaches the lish screen not the irssi one...
20:53<gpd>I can just quit - but I imagine there is a simple solution
20:53<@mikegrb>^a then normal a then d
20:54<gpd>yeah - that gets me back to the lish page... but when you press return you go back to the irssi...
20:54<gpd>normally it won't let you start a screen session within a screen
20:54<gpd>so this might be a little odd
20:54<@mikegrb>"^a a" sends a literal ^a to what ever is inside the session, in this case the inside screen session
20:55<@mikegrb>I use screen within screen all the time with no problems
20:55<gpd>oh... got it... (doh)
20:55<@mikegrb>;)
20:58<SupaZubon>superbeef: by the way, that's a kickass username you got there
20:58<superbeef>SupaZubon Thanks chief... ground beef with a cape gets you places
20:59<SupaZubon>I find that trousers with a cape works for me!
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21:39<superbeef>cd /join #linode-xenbeta
21:39<@mikegrb>lolz
21:39<superbeef>nice lol
21:39<superbeef>i mean rm -rf porn/
22:03<linbot>New news from forums: Lost connection to MySQL server during query in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2205>
22:08<linbot>New news from forums: Reboot: host56 in Xen Public Beta <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2206>
22:09<SupaZubon>m/sg superbeef well, good luck with your parole hearing
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22:14<linbot>New news from forums: Reboot: host56 (graceful) in Xen Public Beta <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2206>
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22:30<linbot>New news from forums: custom awstats scripty type thing in Linux, Apache, Mysql and PHP (LAMP) Forum <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2207>
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22:41<linbot>New news from forums: new customers and xen in Xen Public Beta <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2201>
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22:45<taupehat_>ergh
22:46<taupehat_>is anyone aware of a routing problem at HEnet, or is it just my qwest being screwed up again?
22:47<@caker>taupehat_: welcome to the xen beta ...
22:47<taupehat_>nevermind
22:47<taupehat_>caker: eh?
22:47<@caker>it'll be back in a few minutes
22:47<taupehat_>ok
22:47<taupehat_>what happen? =]
22:47<taupehat_>still
22:47<taupehat_>qwest is screwed
22:47<@caker>post on the forums
22:47<valen2>Zombies happened.
22:47<taupehat_> 6 67.14.1.58 (67.14.1.58) 64.654 ms 64.652 ms 64.389 ms 7 sjp-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.214.138) 68.236 ms 78.554 ms 206.628 ms 8 sjo-bb1-geth1-2-0.telia.net (213.248.86.13) 104.584 ms 199.733 ms 105.050 ms
22:48<taupehat_>also:
22:48<taupehat_>http://isc.sans.org/
22:48<taupehat_>worth reading
22:48<valen2>In a nutshell... CONFIG_DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP went nuts... Started causing zombie node problems.
22:48<taupehat_>zombie nodes???
22:48<taupehat_>haha
22:48<taupehat_>that sounds bad
22:48<@caker>CONFIG_DETECT_SOFTLOCKUP can bite me
22:49<taupehat_>I'm not on host 27 though...
22:49<@caker>taupehat_: the xen forum
22:49<efudd>oh. hah. it tries to detect software lockups and doesn't watchdog them?!?
22:49<valen2>Basically DoSed the system from what I understand.
22:50<taupehat_>got it
22:50<taupehat_>heh
22:50<taupehat_>I haven't seen the "graceful shutdown"
22:50<taupehat_> it's still showing as running
22:50<taupehat_>but the host load
22:50<taupehat_>heh
22:51<taupehat_>the text attached to that graph needs refactoring imho
22:51<taupehat_>it shows almost no blank space and says "medium"
22:51<efudd>HEH
22:51<efudd>Yes.
22:51<taupehat_>maybe when it's 2/3 of the way through the red part it could say "extra medium"
22:51<valen2>It hit high earlier.
22:51<efudd>I always wondered what the definition of "medium" was.
22:51<taupehat_>it's extra medium now
22:51<valen2>Or perhaps "medium well"
22:52<efudd>I expect you are right it just goes to "Extra medium" and that means 99.99999999% busy on user, sys, and io!
22:52<taupehat_>man
22:52<valen2>Have it use the burger scale... "Extra Rare, Rare, Medium Rare, Medium, Medium Well, Well Done"
22:54<taupehat_>when it hits high, it just echoes line 650 from /usr/src/linux-2.6.14/drivers/net/eexpress.c
22:54<efudd>now, I don't have that handy....
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22:55<efudd>oic
22:55<efudd>didn't htink i had any kernel source installed on this linode :)
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23:01<taupehat_>w00t
23:01<taupehat_>thanks caker
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23:03<taupehat_>or is it not actually back online...
23:05<taupehat_>heh
23:05<taupehat_>host56.fremont.linode.comHost Load: high
23:05[~]taupehat_ answers his own question
23:06<taupehat_>=]
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23:37<taupehat>hrm
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23:41<taupehat>woohoo!
23:41<taupehat>that was fun!
23:41<taupehat>eleventy!
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23:52<nenolod>woo. :P
23:52<nenolod>hi gloin.
23:52<taupehat>sup
23:52<taupehat>my damn toaster needs a CPU fan =[
23:52<taupehat>http://flickr.com/photos/taupehat/sets/1079266/
23:53<taupehat>I think it'll run with it disconnected though
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