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#linode IRC Logs for 2006-06-18

---Logopened Sun Jun 18 00:00:32 2006
00:15<Eman>outlook fails
00:19<@caker>"Say Y here if you want to be able to handle very large files (bigger
00:19<@caker>than 2TB), otherwise say N.
00:19<@caker>If unsure, say Y.
00:19<@caker>Support for Large Single Files (LSF) [N/y/?]"
00:24<eFUDd>hrm.
00:37<eFUDd>http://cgi.ebay.com/Ben-Roethlisberger-Replica-Motorcycle-Helmet_W0QQitemZ8828346114QQihZ005QQcategoryZ25211QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
00:39<@caker>Page Not Responding
00:39<eFUDd>try again. :)
00:40<@caker>har
00:40<eFUDd>Q: Will this helmet protect me from any snakes?
00:40<eFUDd> Jun-13-06
00:40<eFUDd>
00:40<eFUDd> A: I'm not sure. Snakes are pretty dangerous creatures.
00:42<Eman>what about snakes on planes?
00:52<Battousai>heh, i love that auction
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01:11<@caker>Beirdo: check PM
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01:32<gpd>caker: very cool :)
01:33<gpd>I see that it is available in LPM too... you sir are fast
01:35<blakez>whats going on?
01:36<blakez>new os added?
01:36|-|blakez changed nick to blake
01:40<@mikegrb>no
01:40<@mikegrb>we only support linux
01:41<gpd>i see the 'experimental|testing' tag has been removed...
01:43<gpd>seems Ubuntu 6.06 is available in the distro wizard too
01:43<gpd>and yet it is not mentioned on the Front Page... ?
01:44<blake>fuck ubuntu
01:44<@mikegrb>watch your language
01:44<blake>sorry
01:44<blake>:)
01:44<@mikegrb>this is the last time I will warn you
01:44<blake>its the first... i didnt know profanity was not allowed, my apologies.
01:44<@mikegrb>I've warned you in here before
01:44<blake>oh
01:46<warewolf>caker- make that announcement yet?
01:46<gpd>ok - I'm going to boot into 2.6.17 - fingers crossed
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01:49<anderiv>blake: examine this for details of your last infraction...http://www.linode.com/irc/logs/linode.log-2006-06-15
01:49<anderiv>:-)
01:51<blake>http://www.linode.com/irc/logs/linode.log-2006-06-15
01:51<blake>[02:49] <anderiv> :-)
01:51<anderiv>yep - that's what I said.
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01:52<blake>i meant to put in browser
01:52<blake>what did i do wrong?
01:52<blake>thats a huge log
01:52<blake>you gotta tell me where to lok
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01:52<anderiv>you seem to have a short memory...search for "language"
01:53<blake>oh, i didnt see that
01:53<blake>prob minimized mirc and opened it later after that had scrolled up
01:53<blake>sorry
01:54<gpd>caker: looking good with 2.6.17 (so far)
01:54<@caker>awesome
01:54<gpd>why no announcement of 6.06 on the front page?
01:54<@caker>finishing it up
01:55<@caker>(moving to hosts)
01:55<blake>im very happy with my linode, im going to stop making enemies on #linode though so i dont lose it. :)
01:56<@caker>blake: and, you're this --><-- close to that happening, to. Please don't do that again, regardless of if it's to/from a Linode or not.
01:56<blake>swearing in #linode?
01:56<@caker>blake: no, the ddos activity
01:56<blake>i didnt
01:57<blake>there was a problem with that last nite
01:57<blake>somebody had problems with isp and blamed me
01:57<gpd>Linux v2.6.17 Being named "Crazed Snow-Weasel" instills a lot of confidence in this
01:57<gpd>release, so I'm sure this will be one of the better ones.
02:00[~]anderiv watches blake start to dig himself out...
02:00<anderiv>:-)
02:00<blake>thats because of eman
02:00<blake>i was joking about ddos with him
02:00<blake>and he got attacked like 10 mins later
02:01<anderiv>still digging...
02:03<blake>digging out of a hole i never should have been thrown into in the first place...
02:03<blake>:-\
02:03<anderiv>such is life.
02:04[~]anderiv tries to decide if it's worth deploying the new 6.06 ubuntu image...
02:04<@caker>anderiv: dist-upgrade, no?
02:06<anderiv>caker: yah - I've done that....it's probably not worth it.
02:06<anderiv>I probably only have 2 hrs of work on my current image, though, so it's not that big of a deal.
02:07<blake>anderiv: ubuntu us a silly name, forget it
02:08<Eman>who cares if its a silly name, its a rather nice os
02:08<anderiv>blake: I don't think I'll be taking advice from you anytime soon, Mr. un-hackable server man.
02:09[~]warewolf actually adds someone to his /ignore list
02:09<@caker>Please, don't feed the trolls
02:10<blake>isnt ubuntu for children?
02:10<blake>its like a childrens linux or something
02:13<warewolf>finally
02:13<warewolf>my sparc is reinstalled
02:13<warewolf>now I just need to finish up the minor touches
02:14<anderiv>warewolf: ooh nice...server machine?
02:14<warewolf>no, desktop. SunBlade 1000
02:14<warewolf>my personal unix box at my desk
02:14<warewolf>nobody else uses it
02:15<warewolf>!@#$ I forget how I made the volume up/down buttons on the keyboard work
02:15<warewolf>all I recall was that I had to install some app, and frob some openwin file.
02:15[~]warewolf fumes
02:16<warewolf>ah, found it.
02:16<warewolf>speckeys
02:17<blake>its not good when your server admin thinks of you as a troll :-\
02:17<blake>better clean up my act
02:18<warewolf>yaay xmms works
02:18<warewolf>and so do my volume up/down and mute keys.
02:19[~]warewolf squirms in delight
02:19[~]anderiv saw "Cars" this afternoon.
02:19<anderiv>...decent movie.
02:19<blake>it's for children, no?
02:19<blake>not to be rude...
02:20<anderiv>couldn't past the fact that "Lightning's" voice was done by Owen Wilson.
02:25<warewolf>woah that is fucking cool
02:26<warewolf>the SFWxterm package (X.org XTerm) has an app called 'multixterm'
02:26<warewolf>it allows you to spawn multiple xterms, and then focus the 'multixterm' app, and send keystrokes to all the xterms you spawned
02:26<warewolf>quick and easy way to execute the same command on lots of boxes
02:26<@mikegrb>warewolf: language.
02:26<anderiv>warewolf: yes - I've seen that before. Never had occasion to use it though.
02:27<@mikegrb>my terminal client has that too
02:27<@mikegrb>it says "Sent to all tabs" and "Send to all tabs & windows"
02:27<warewolf>anderiv: well, I have loads of similar boxes to admin
02:27<warewolf>anderiv: IDS boxes, firewalls, web caches, etc
02:28<warewolf>anderiv: so this is a godsend for sysadmining
02:28<anderiv>warewolf: I'm sure it's very helpful for that env.
02:28<warewolf>yah
02:28<anderiv>much better than the cut/paste method :-)
02:29<@mikegrb>anderiv: for a small number
02:29<warewolf>I wrote a shell script
02:29<warewolf>heh
02:29<warewolf>I admin um .. four different types of IDS probes
02:29<@mikegrb>anderiv: much above 5 and it's just a pain in the arse connecting to all the machines and you need something better
02:29<warewolf>so I do sensordo -[TYPE] "command to run via ssh"
02:29<warewolf>or sensordo -all for all of them
02:30<anderiv>mikegrb: yes - I agree.
02:30[~]mikegrb does sendToAll SendToTP etc
02:30<warewolf>yeah, similar.
02:30[~]mikegrb has a multithreaded version too
02:31<@mikegrb>need to add support for the various groups though
02:31<warewolf>mine's not, 'cause I generally like to see what is going on
02:31<@mikegrb>it just does everything right night
02:31<@mikegrb>it will output it while it's going on if you ask it to
02:31<@mikegrb>otherwise once it is done it displays all the output in order
02:31<@mikegrb>and super fast
02:32<@mikegrb>commands take about 2.5 times normal to execute on everything
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03:09<encode>http://www.weirdal.com/ <-- haha, weird al has a rip off of James Blunt's You're Beautiful for downloading on his website
03:11<blake>not funny
03:11<blake>:-\
03:11<blake>i find abusing the disabled more amusing, sry
03:11<blake>:-P
03:13<Eman>i hope you devlop some disability so we can abuse you
03:14<blake>eheh
03:14<blake>you would like that, wouldn't you?
03:14<blake>:)
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03:48<warewolf>Dear microsoft:
03:48<warewolf>Why do I have to create new .pst files, beacuse of your love of unicode?
03:48<warewolf>My .pst files worked just fine, and now you refuse to write to them.
03:48<warewolf>No love,
03:48<warewolf>warewolf
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07:50<streamcipher>
07:51<warewolf>
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08:07<linbot>New news from forums: Reboot: host51 in System and Network Status <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2336>
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09:24<warewolf>*BAMF*
09:24[~]warewolf -c home &
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10:05<streamcipher>bleh... "Web site" vs "website" vs "Website"
10:05<Kurt>you know
10:05<Kurt>trolling #gnu on freenode is really easy
10:05<Kurt>all you have to do is tell them to read Ayn Rand and use vim
10:10<Karnaugh>streamcipher: thats got to be the most pointless argument i've ever seen
10:11<streamcipher>Karnaugh: i've seen much more pointless ones
10:12<streamcipher>"to be" vs "not to be"
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10:33<Ciaran>I like vim. :D
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11:14<streamcipher>damned broken link slipped by and gave googlebot 404
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12:31<gpd>caker: ping
12:38<@caker>pong
12:44<gpd>i put in a ticket on the subject
12:53<@caker>gpd: fixed
12:54<afv-13>caker: when are the 'surprises' scheduled for?
12:58[~]gpd considers not rebooting for a while :O
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13:14<Xel>There's a dns manager?
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14:08<linbot>New news from forums: Distro: Ubuntu 6.06 in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2335> || Kernel: 2.6.17-linode20 in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2334> || New Feature - CPU Usage Graphs in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2333>
14:14<linbot>New news from forums: Linode Three Year Anniversary and 25% additional RAM in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2331>
14:15<afv-13>\o/ thanks caker and mikegrb
14:17<afv-13>the availability section of the products list still carries the old plan names
14:18<@caker>oh, at the bottom
14:19<@caker>!avail
14:19<linbot>caker: Linode80 - 1, Linode120 - 4, Linode160 - 9, Linode240 - 5, Linode320 - 5
14:19<@caker>!avail
14:19<linbot>New news from forums: DNS Manager README in DNS Manager (pre-beta) <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2337>
14:19<linbot>caker: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
14:19<@caker>har
14:32<linbot>New news from forums: Sticky: DNS Manager README in DNS Manager (pre-beta) <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2337>
14:34<Xel>caker, you are awsome.
14:36<Xel>Woot!
14:40[~]iggy humps caker's leg
14:40<@caker>down boy
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14:42<iggy>caker: is there a way to steal the bandwidth graphs from the members site without loggin in?
14:46<@caker>iggy: no, intentionally. And, if you start scraping the site I'll send mikegrb after you
14:47<iggy>I wouldn't
14:47<iggy>I can do my own graphs, I was just trying to save a little time
14:55<@caker>!weather 37216
14:56<linbot>caker: Temperature: 85°F / 29°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h; Today - Showers and thunderstorms likely. Highs in the mid 80s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tonight - Showers and thunderstorms likely. Lows in the upper 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy with a (1 more message)
14:56<@caker>more
14:56<@caker>1more
14:56<@caker>!more
14:56<linbot>caker: 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds around 5 mph.;
14:56<Xel>I think it's hotter than that here
14:56[~]caker considers a motorcycle ride
14:56<Xel>!weather 91325
14:56<linbot>Xel: Temperature: 80°F / 27°C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: Variable | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h; Today - Areas of morning low clouds and fog...otherwise mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s to mid 90s.; Tonight - Clear early then low clouds and fog. Lows in the mid 50s to mid 60s.; Monday - Sunny after morning low clouds and fog. Highs in the 80s to lower 90s.;
14:56<Xel>Woh
14:56<Xel>It's only 80?
14:56<Xel>It was 103 a day or two ago
14:59<Xel>caker, will my old upgrade support ticket automatically close itself after a certain period of time? Cause you guys did all the stuff on it, it just still says its open
14:59<@caker>Xel: we leave them open for a bit to make sure it went through ok
15:00<@caker>Xel: maybe just a reply from you saying it went OK
15:00<Xel>You got it
15:04<Xel>Hmm, any of you guys running debian 3.1?
15:04<@caker>yes, why?
15:06<Xel>I'm thinking about installing it on my box, and I'm not sure if I want to use the debs (which I know are bulky) or compile from source (which I know can be ... difficult)
15:06<Xel>How bloated are the binaries in apt?
15:07<afv-13>how bloated are binaries compiled for i386?
15:07<Xel>probably apache2, php4, and mysql (latest on the apt tree for stable)
15:07<Xel>afv, well they could compile a LOT of extra things in.
15:08<afv-13>Xel: you sound like a gentoo man
15:09<Xel>afv, nope.
15:09<Xel>I've been a debian man for many years.
15:10<Xel>I just haven't recently had to work with 150mb of ram on a machine.
15:10<Xel>So I'm being really anal about each thing that I install.
15:10<Xel>A little bloat on a machine with a few gigs of ram didn't bother me.
15:10<Xel>But with 150, every little bit counts
15:10<@caker>Xel: the binaries aren't really the issue, it's the default configs
15:10<Xel>caker, ahh. Well that's easy enough to tweak.
15:11<@caker>Xel: in apache's case, you can/have to reduce the number of threads/clients,etc, along with turning off unused modules, etc
15:12<Xel>Ok good.
15:14<@caker>http://www.theshore.net/~caker/pics/satan.gif
15:14<Xel>Last question (for now) on this: How does apache 1.3 stack up against 2.0 as far as resource use?
15:15<Xel>hah caker.
15:15<@caker>it's all in how you configure it, IMO
15:15<afv-13>Xel: have you had a look at lighttpd?
15:15<Xel>Ok so the binaries themselves are pretty similar in resource usage given a similar configuration?
15:15<Xel>afv-13, I have not.
15:16<afv-13>might work as a replacement for you
15:16<Xel>Hmm just checked out their site.
15:17[~]caker needs food. AFK
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15:27<Karnaugh>there seems to be an issue with the DHCP near host 19
15:28<Xel>brb
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15:34<streamcipher>thanks for the 25% bump!
15:40<Battousai>now 15% bumpier than the leading bump
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15:56[~]mikegrb updates linbot's plugin
15:56[~]mikegrb made it snazzy to get the list of plans dynamically but he hadn't been updated yet :<
15:57<@mikegrb>!avail
15:57<linbot>mikegrb: Linode100 - 1, Linode150 - 4, Linode200 - 8, Linode300 - 5, Linode400 - 5
16:02<@caker>Karnaugh: ?
16:20<eFUDd>linode 400's now? :)
16:21<eFUDd>hrm.
16:21<eFUDd>that a new change caker? I thought i was on the highend plan, but.. I've only got ~300MB memory.
16:22<eFUDd>ah yup, shows 400 in control panel. hrm.
16:22<Eman>http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2331
16:23<eFUDd>spiff.
16:25<npmr>ooh
16:27<Karnaugh>caker: linode. host 19. dhcp. broken
16:28<Karnaugh>I think thats the gist of what I experienced :P
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16:32<npmr>linbot, roulette
16:32<linbot>npmr: *click*
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17:03<@caker>Karnaugh: I'm showing it DHCPACKed to you for your IP...
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17:07<Karnaugh>for some reason when it came up i never had a lease though :/
17:07<@caker>npmr: I know you just rebooted, but -- 2.6.17 is out if you want to give it a spin. I have high hopes for it :)
17:07<Karnaugh>anyway, I'm using a static interface entry now
17:07<Karnaugh>which I should have done
17:07<npmr>too late
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18:25<linbot>New news from forums: Linode Three Year Anniversary and 25% additional RAM in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2331>
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18:44<internat>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!! more ram!!!!!!!~!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:46<Zymurgy>its all a plot by the linode staff to ensure we never have more than a year's uptime - giving us more ram every year that requires a reboot to activate :-)
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18:47<@mikegrb>lolz
18:47<internat>lol
18:49<encode>Zymurgy: hehe
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19:01<anderiv>Zymurgy: you a brewer?
19:07<internat>forgive my ignorance but since the new kernels support ntls and therefor there is no reason to move /lib/tls out of the way... is there a performance gain by using tls or do we lose out by keeping it?
19:08<Zymurgy>well, I like the end result of the process, and have dabbled somewhat, but no, the nick is not an indication of any particular skill - more of the fact that I picked the nick by opening the dictionary to the last page :)
19:10<anderiv>Zymurgy: hehe - fair enough.
19:10[~]anderiv was just curious.
19:10<anderiv>there aren't very many people around that know what Zymurgy means.
19:10<anderiv>...so I had to ask
19:11<anderiv>Zymurgy: I've been extract brewing for ~3 years and I'll be doing my first all-grain batch tomorrow.
19:11<Zymurgy>anderiv: no worries... I do like the idea of brewing though, just haven't had the space and the opportunity... I figure my levels of consumption help to support many that do brew, so I'm doing my part in the grand scheme of things :)
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19:20<laptop_jake>caker, mikegrb, are either one of you here? xptek sent me
19:20<@caker>what's up?
19:20<laptop_jake>i'm wanting to get a VPS
19:20<laptop_jake>and I sent a request, but I haven't received an email yet
19:20<@caker>how long ago?
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19:21<laptop_jake>about 10 or so
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19:24<@caker>laptop_jake: can you PM me the email addy you used?
19:24<laptop_jake>sure thing
19:31<xptek_>caker: ping.
19:31|-|xptek_ changed nick to xptek
19:31<@caker>pong
19:32<xptek>Okay, I'm apparently paying for Jake's account for the first month (meh), so is there any way you could work it out for the first month so he can't get my card number?
19:32<laptop_jake>i'm owed money
19:32<laptop_jake>and it's annoying
19:32<@caker>IIRC, the card number isn't displayed
19:32<xptek>Yeah, I thought it was the last four digits.
19:32<internat>the last 4 digits are if i remember correctly
19:33<xptek>Alright, so I could just go through "step two" and it wouldn't be a problem?
19:33<@caker>yup
19:33<xptek>Alrighty.
19:35<internat>anyone able to answer that question i had about ntpl
19:35<@caker>internat: hmm?
19:35<internat>forgive my ignorance but since the new kernels support ntls and therefor there is no reason to move /lib/tls out of the way... is there a performance gain by using tls or do we lose out by keeping it?
19:35<internat><== that one
19:36<xptek>caker: Right. Going to be an issue if the card holder is in a completely different state?
19:36<@caker>internat: no reason to move /lib/tls, and I don't think it's a perf decrease w/o NPTL .. I would think if anything it's faster with NPTL, but that's just a guess
19:36<@caker>xptek: nah
19:36<@mikegrb>lolz
19:36<xptek>lol, alright. Some companies *cough* Verizon are annoying about that.
19:36<@caker>xptek: we're paranoid enough, but I can overlook this situation :)
19:37<xptek>"Sorry, you have to use a card with the same last name."
19:37<internat>okies then, ill put it back i guess
19:37<xptek>"Can I scan it and send it to you somewhere? I just want to pay my damn bill."
19:37<xptek>"Sorry, sir."
19:39<internat>yeah thatd be sucky
19:41<xptek>caker: There you go.
19:41[~]xptek glares at laptop_jake
19:41<laptop_jake>sorry
19:41<laptop_jake>if you want to glare, glare at Jim Sundstrom
19:41<xptek>Fail. :D
19:41<laptop_jake>he needs to be castrated
19:42<@caker>all set
19:42<xptek>laptop_jake: If you don't update that by the end of the month, heads will roll. :D
19:43<laptop_jake>you mean by the next billing date
19:43<xptek>Well, whatever. :P
19:43<laptop_jake>because i don't know if i'm going to be paid within the next couple weeks. hopes are that i am
19:43[~]xptek shrugs
19:43<laptop_jake>but no promises :\
19:44<laptop_jake>i swear, i will castrate someone
19:44<xptek>'k.
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20:23<gpd>caker: frickin' sweet - thanks a whole lot! /me reboots
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20:27<@caker>gpd: you're welcome :)
20:28[~]encode wonders when it will be host49's turn to panic/reboot/die horribly
20:28<@caker>gpd: thank you
20:28<encode>so that i can switch to 2.6
20:29<gpd>fantastic service caker - keep up the great work :D
20:30<Beirdo>going to definitely have to reboot sometime soon to use the extra RAM. Thanks, caker :) More RAM means less swapping :)
20:30<@caker>indeed
20:30[~]caker pushes 2.6.17
20:30<Beirdo>and less swapping is better for all
20:30<@caker>encode: you know you want it
20:31<encode>caker: yes, i want it, but i dont want the downtime
20:31<cow>nobody notices downtime on a sunday night
20:31<gpd>i just rebooted -- downtime was less than 2 minutes...
20:31<encode>im waiting for something to break, so i can upgrade my kernel, and roll in that extra 2GB i bought
20:31<encode>i know no-one will notice it - but i will
20:32<encode>and i'll lose my fantastic irssi uptime too
20:32<encode>Irssi uptime: 125d 5h 38m 4s
20:32<TheFirst>holy crizap it's more ram
20:32<gpd>bah - get over it - think of the 2.6.17 joy -- released y'day!
20:32<@caker>21:32 Irssi uptime: 156d 6h 39m 23s
20:32<encode>caker: bah
20:32[~]gpd bbqs -- mmm tri-tip
20:33<gpd>wait... caker ...
20:33<eFUDd>21:33 Irssi uptime: 19d 17h 30m 23s
20:33<eFUDd>:/
20:33<gpd>gpd@www:~$ uptime 18:32:06 up 14662 days, 21:48, 2 users, load average: 0.40, 0.29, 0.14
20:33<encode>nooooo
20:33<encode>i cannot compete
20:33<eFUDd>whohhoo! 1970!
20:33<@caker>!calc 14662 days in years
20:33<linbot>caker: 14,662 days = 40.1432256 years
20:34<gpd>that may be a little off...
20:34<@caker>interesting
20:34<encode>yeah
20:34<eFUDd>i cheated at the math. :)
20:34<encode>i thought 14662 days was greater than my lifespan to date
20:34<encode>but i wasnt sure
20:34<gpd>anyone else runnign 2.6.17?
20:34<eFUDd>i based it on 3650 = 10yrs
20:34<encode>cos its early, and my brain is lazy
20:34<eFUDd>and ~3x that.
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20:52<@mikegrb>my irssi uptime sucks
20:52<@mikegrb>was at a cookout and had a few beers, acidently did /quit instead of /wc on the treo :<
20:52<@mikegrb>[20:52] Irssi uptime: 8d 1h 10m 44s
20:53<TheFirst>haha
20:55<@caker>mikegrb: /alias quit echo I'm not a quitter!
20:56<@mikegrb>good call
20:57<@mikegrb>[20:57] |-| I'm not a quitter!
20:57<@mikegrb>:>
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22:29<gpd>anyone else on 2.6.17 then?
22:36<@caker>gpd: there are a few
22:36<gpd>anyone else with uptime o' largeness?
22:37<@caker>like?
22:37<gpd>gpd@www:~$ cat /proc/uptime
22:37<gpd>1266882820.83 7022.60
22:37<@caker>ugh
22:37<gpd>gpd@www:~$ uptime 20:37:09 up 14662 days, 23:53, 2 users, load average: 0.41, 0.31, 0.28
22:37<@caker>ok, I didn't get it the first time you pasted that
22:37<@caker>that's your node, eh?
22:37<gpd>yes, just after booting
22:39<FireSlash>li-253:~# uptime
22:39<FireSlash> 23:39:15 up 162 days, 2:11, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.06, 0.02
22:39<FireSlash>Normal.
22:39<@caker>FireSlash: uname -a?
22:40<@caker>nm
22:40<@caker>it's obviously not 2.6.17 :)
22:40<gpd>2.6.17-linode20 #2 <-- mine
22:40<FireSlash>Oh
22:40<FireSlash>Whoops
22:40<FireSlash>Didn't catch the kernel specific part
22:41<internat>broken:/lib/tls# uptime
22:41<internat> 13:41:26 up 14663 days, 1:33, 1 user, load average: 0.45, 0.22, 0.17
22:42<gpd>bingo - reproducible :(
22:42<Eman>uptime o' gigantic vpenis
22:42<FireSlash>gpd, Don't complain.
22:42<FireSlash>Put up a system info script on your website
22:42<FireSlash>Then boast how AWESOME your uptime is
22:43<gpd>you know - it just might work...
22:43<FireSlash>You can also use it to promote how STABLE and RELIABLE linode is!
22:43<FireSlash>So reliable they've not rebooted in YEARS
22:43<@caker>"my uptime predates Linux!"
22:44<FireSlash>Haha
22:44<gpd>yeah - except 40 years is before most of computing - but a minor point
22:44<Eman>"my linode first ran on eniac and hasnt been rebooted EVAR!"
22:45<@caker>it seems to be incrementing /proc/uptime correctly -- just the initial value isn't zeroed out
22:45<FireSlash>gpd, Linode started out as a pair of hamsters on wheels...
22:46<gpd>hamsters with abacuses - beautiful
22:47<Battousai>that might actually be before the abacus too
22:48<gpd>oO
22:49<gpd>when is unix epoch ? 01/01/1970? in which case it isn't even that?
22:49<gpd>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_timestamp
22:51<Battousai>yeah, i wasn't serious
22:51<gpd>i realize - just expected it to be set to time from 0 not some weird date in 1976...
22:52<Battousai>time from 0 is too big
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22:53<Battousai>well not so much anymore obviously
22:53<Battousai>but it was
22:54<gpd>[seems google calculator doesn't handle date calculations well]
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22:58<@caker>gpd: found the bug
22:58<gpd>sweet - where? UML?
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22:59<Battousai>whee, monday
23:00<gpd>ha - sux to be you Battousai - 3 more hours fun for me
23:00<Battousai>the bot hopping reminded me ;)
23:01<@caker>gpd: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=115016859504778&w=2 <-- not in 2.6.17, they missed it
23:01[~]caker compiles -linode21
23:01<Battousai>hah
23:01<Battousai>wow
23:02<@caker>gpd: which host are you on (can you test for me?)
23:02<gpd>47 - and yes
23:02<@caker>ok, few minutes
23:06<gpd>caker: if i save config to Latest 2.6 now - will it pick up the -21 on arrival?
23:06<@caker>gpd: yeah, I'm going to update the pointers
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23:10<@caker>gpd: go for it
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23:15<gpd>ok - going down
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23:19<gpd>caker: looking good :)
23:20[~]gpd goes for a cigar...
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23:21<linbot>New news from forums: Kernel: 2.6.17-linode21 in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2334>
23:28<linbot>New news from forums: Kernel: 2.6.17-linode21 (Latest 2.6) in Linode.com Announcements <http://www.linode.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2334>
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