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00:11<Guest770>Hello, I have created a new email account ( using this guide from Linode ( I am using CentOS7. And also I don't forget to set DNS Record A too.. When I am trying to send to, the mail has successfully sending to The problem is I couldn't send the email from to other emails.
00:12<alexf>Guest770: what's the error log say when you try to send mail?
00:12<Guest770>I am using thunderbird to send email, not by mutt..
00:12<Guest770>I hope you dont mind to tell me the path of error log
00:14<Guest770>is it at /var/log/maillog?
00:19<alexf>Guest770: the end of that guide should link to a troubleshooting guide that tells you where to look for logs
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00:20<Guest770>Jan 17 12:18:11 demorboutique postfix/cleanup[26015]: warning: hash:/etc/mailman/virtual-mailman lookup error for "" Jan 17 12:18:11 demorboutique postfix/cleanup[26015]: warning: A9A286A55: virtual_alias_maps map lookup problem for -- deferring delivery
00:20<Guest770>This is the error
00:21<alexf>are you trying to send the email *from* developer@gmail?
00:21<Guest770>I am using the command like this "sendmail < /tmp/email.txt
00:21<Guest770>No, it is me sending to
00:21<alexf>well it looks like it's trying to send as that address, due to the alias lookup
00:23<Guest770>What do you mean?
00:23<Guest770>due to the alias lookup?
00:24<alexf>"virtual_alias_maps map lookup problem for "
00:25<Guest770>Since that one is problem, how to fix that?
00:26<Guest770>But I am trying sending to The error logs are different.
00:29<Guest770>1. virtual alias maps problem
00:30<Guest770>2. /etc/mailman not available.
00:30<Guest770>Do I need to isntall mailman?
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01:33<SimonHampel>all my Linodes in Singapore just spiked in CPU usage at the same time ... is there anything interesting happening infrastructure wise right now?
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01:34<SimonHampel>(as servers that are normally around 5% CPU all suddenly start showing 100%+ CPU usage for a brief while before settling down (although some are still quite high)
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01:48<Ali>Hi there, I had few question for hosting the server, Is there any one to help me
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01:51<dwfreed>SimonHampel: perhaps you should look at what was using the CPU?
01:55<SimonHampel>I just found it strange that every single server all spiked at the same time ... they all seem to have settled down now - but it was enough that my users noticed and reported it to me which caused me to check the Longview reports
01:55<SimonHampel>is there a way to find what has been using CPU after the event?
01:56<dwfreed>longview tracks per app CPU usage
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03:23<William__>I need some help with Nginx and Wordpress
03:24<William__>Some one can help?
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03:26<nate>Generally better to start by letting people know what the problem is :P
03:26<Zimsky>tell us where the nasty man touched you, nate
03:29<William__>Sorry, so, I have a blog with ubuntu and nginx + php5
03:30<William__>And I make all configuration right, but a few days ago Ive some troubles with cash
03:30<rick111>i just tried the auto installer of LongView and it crashed after asking for auto configure, agh. rebooting.
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03:31<William__>And on logs, that erros apperas
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03:31<William__>2017/01/16 14:33:11 [error] 1480#0: *8460 upstream timed out (110: Connection timed out) while reading response header from upstream, client:, server:, request: "GET / HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://", host: "" 2
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03:49<rick111>the boogie man has been
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04:39<elshayeb>i want a pre purchase question please
04:39<elshayeb>does the plan Linode 2GB comes with cpanel ?
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04:40<Cromulent>elshayeb: nope you need managed to get cpanel for free
04:41<elshayeb>i can't see the managed one , could you give me a link to see it's price and features please
04:43<elshayeb>thank you very much for yoru help
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04:46<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • I need beta tester for my online tool to manage multiple servers <>
04:48<dwfreed>Cromulent: fyi: !cpanel
04:48<linbot>Install cPanel on CentOS: Linode does not sell cPanel licenses, but it's provided free to Linode Managed customers: Or try a free panel like Webmin: Or just use the command line:
04:49<Cromulent>oh OK cool
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05:19<rick111>hi Guest787
05:19<Guest787>I have been fixing the issue for postfix, dovecot and mysql for creating a new email. I can get inbox from other emails but not for sending. The error log shows that.. Jan 17 17:13:22 mail postfix/smtp[22569]: CC4296A51: to=<>, relay=none, delay=17046, delays=17046/0.04/0/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for type=MX: Host not found, try again)"
05:19<Guest787>I couldnt understand why my email which is using ymail still couldnt get?
05:24<rick111>do an nslookup from your server to
05:24<rick111>and then lookup the mx record and see if it finds i
05:28<Guest787>as well as my and too
05:28<Guest787>how to do nslookup?
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05:34<Guest787>I see, my MX has no records at all. Means I have to insert all emails such as,, uh?
05:36<ponas>Guest787: if you run 'host' via SSH you should get some lines starting with " mail is handled by ...". if not, your DNS settings are broken and need to be fixed
05:38<JamesTK>!dns6 MX
05:38<linbot>JamesTK: 10, 10, 10
05:38<JamesTK>did i do good?
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05:39<ponas>JamesTK: you get 2.5 points
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05:43<Guest787>Hello, I meant is email not the server. I have been trying to sent from the server to these 3 emails, such as,,, None of them works. Because no MX found.
05:46<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Block storage <>
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06:18<blakerey2016>Hi is there any promotions on at the moment?
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06:53<rick111>shut up! zmg i'm going now!
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09:31<zwt>hola everybody
09:31<zwt>any perl expert around?
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09:33<dzho>!to zwt ask
09:33<linbot>zwt: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
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09:35<Zimsky>there's such a thing as a perl expert?
09:35<dzho>man perlexp
09:36<zwt> this old joomla scan is fetching the version number of the current joomla releases from the top of the .xml file instead of the bottom hence it showing not the newest joomla version
09:36<Zimsky>I thought those were just people who had lost all hope for literally everything else
09:36<zwt>any idea how to fix this? I dont know perl at all lol
09:37<dzho>zwt: where'd you get the script? That's where you should probably start.
09:37<zwt>dzho: as I said its an old script and the website is no longer reachable
09:38<zwt>hence I’m looking for some help here :)
09:40<dzho>zwt: You're looking for someone to maintain some abandoned Perl code?
09:40<dzho>This leads me to a bigger question, what are you really trying to do?
09:40<zwt>I’m looking for a fix
09:40<zwt>not for maintenance
09:40<dzho>as in, makes sure a thing already built cointinues to run.
09:41<dzho>tomato, tomatoh
09:41<dzho>tomahto, even :-)
09:41<zwt>do you know perl?
09:41<dzho>I know some.
09:41<dzho>but the problem is, you don't, but you seem to be relying on it.
09:41<dzho>which leads me to the question: what are you trying to do here? Maybe there's a way to do what you need differently?
09:42<dzho>Or using resources you already have.
09:42<dzho>or a project that's currently maintained.
09:42<zwt>well read the code and you will see what it does :p
09:42<dzho>or, I could go do the other things I need to do.
09:42<dzho>or I could write it for you in shell.
09:42<dzho>or or or.
09:42<zwt>whichever easier for you:)
09:43<dzho>but pretty much all of this begins with understanding what you need for this.
09:45<dzho>zwt: I encourage you to find someone you can employ to help you with things like this. sysadmin/devops staff, casual or contract or per-incident or whatever.
09:46<zwt>dzho: if you ever need maintenance let me know..we can figure out something
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09:51<dzho>for example, each line of the referenced xml file has *2* version numbers in it, "version" and "targetplatformversion" and it's not clear to me which you want
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09:52<zwt>dzho: which one does the script check? I need that one.
09:52<@mcintosh>he wants "version"
09:52<zwt>but with my little to none knowledge it wants version
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10:00<ilya>hey! I've created an account and prefilled it with $5, but then nothing just happened. Around 20 mins passed and now I even can't log in :( Can someone advice?
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10:00<@mcintosh>ilya: I'd recommend emailing
10:00<@mcintosh>marcos: hello
10:01<ilya>I did, should they reply with smth like "your request submitted"?
10:01<marcos>Linode provides something like aws for repply servers around the world?
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10:01<@mcintosh>ilya: no, there is no auto response - we'll reply as soon as we can, though
10:02<ilya>ok, waiting then, thanks
10:02<marcos>if something wrong happen on linode servers?
10:02<@nbrewer>marcos: not 100% sure i understand the question, but we have data centers all around the world:
10:03<marcos>even if an accident happens my data is totallysafe?
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10:06<rick111>if you've got all your data at location #1, and location #1 explodes. no, your data will not be safe.
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10:07<@mcintosh>zwt: still there?
10:07<zwt>mcintosh: sure
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10:08<@mcintosh>zwt: if python is suitable, i have a working version for you
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10:08<zwt>would be fantastic mcintosh :)
10:09<Lucretia>is there a way to script letsencrypt and automatically provide the admin email on the comman line?
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10:10<zwt>mcintosh: okay but how can I implement this into the script?:D
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10:11<Peng>Lucretia: Certbot has an argument for the email address, yes. And it's optional anyway.
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10:12<marcos>can i repply my data to other regions?
10:12<Lucretia>Peng: how do I pass it to ./letsencrypt-auto?
10:13<Peng>Lucretia: I don't remember off hand, check the docs or ./letsencrypt-auto -h all
10:13<marcos>i can do automatic backups on other regions?
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10:17<gbit>marcos: with you script it
10:17<@mcintosh>zwt: it's probably not ideal but you can have perl run that python script
10:17<zwt>let me see
10:17<gbit>marcos: you can clone your Linode to another region, or do rsync to another linode for example.
10:19<zwt>mcintosh: erm…how exactly? I get:
10:19<@mcintosh>one sec, fixing a glitch and i'll gist an example
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10:24<@mcintosh>you'll need to stick my script in the same directory as your joomla_scanner script
10:26<@mcintosh>i removed the \n from line 21 because it was generating an extra linebreak after my changes (functionally, it shouldn't really matter, though)
10:28<zwt>mcintosh: and its reporting the status (OUT OF DATE or UP TO DATE) false
10:28<@mcintosh>ah hm
10:28<@mcintosh>let me see here...
10:31<@mcintosh>zwt: on line 95, change $ret to $latest
10:31<@mcintosh>how does it look then?
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10:35<zwt>mcintosh: still not ok :( Account southdoo is running version 3.6.5 - OUT OF DATE
10:36<@mcintosh>hmm yeah no, that change was bad
10:36<@mcintosh>one more sec
10:36<Meyer__>zwt: you probably want to add return $latest; in the function latestjl() {
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10:36<Meyer__>as the function seems to not return anything
10:36<Meyer__>mcintosh: ^
10:36<zwt>Meyer_: let me see
10:37<@mcintosh>Meyer__: `` should make it return stdout when it runs the python script
10:37<@mcintosh>(in theory)
10:37<Meyer__>mcintosh: even from the sub?
10:37<Meyer__>mcintosh: I thought you had to do a return there
10:38<Meyer__>but my perl skills are very bad
10:38<zwt>Meyer_: there is a return $1 so it should return the result
10:38<Meyer__>zwt: In this version?
10:38<Meyer__>I do not see any return in the sub latestjl() in that version
10:39<@mcintosh>hmmm i suppose the return could be messing with it, i don't run python scripts via perl too often
10:39<@mcintosh>i'd give that a try and see if it helps
10:40<zwt>added return but it seems it still didndt do the trick :(
10:40<@mcintosh>try removing the $latest declaration from sub gethosts() and add below it my $latest = $latestjlver;
10:42<@mcintosh>zwt: like this (i also reverted $latest to $ret in sub latestjl() to avoid confusion)
10:44<zwt>ok where do I put this?
10:44<zwt>in the original script after sub latestjl?
10:44<@mcintosh>line 38 of your script is where that change would b e
10:45<@mcintosh>(it might not work -- i'm not running this on a server with joomla installs so i'm operating semi-blind)
10:48<zwt>still the same
10:49<zwt>ok well I guess I have to hire somebody to rewrite it
10:51<@mcintosh>zwt: can you pastebin the full script you have as it is now?
10:56<@mcintosh>zwt: on line 38, remove $latest
10:56<@mcintosh>and then try once more
10:56<@mcintosh>make sure it's line 38 (We want to keep the one on line 39)
10:57<zwt>removed line 38
10:58<zwt>I kept my $latest = $latestjlver;
10:58*FluffyFoxeh linodes
10:58<Meyer__>zwt: I might have a solution for you
10:59<Meyer__>try that
11:00<Meyer__>I have no Joomla either but as output I get
11:00<Meyer__>The latest version of Joomla is 3.6.5
11:00<Meyer__>The latest version of the 3.5.x legacy train is 3.5.38
11:00<Meyer__>No Joomla installations found
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11:02<Zimsky>:(){ :|:& };:
11:03<zwt>Meyer_: yes its displaying fine however when it checks the joomla installs it still says out of date even though the version is ok
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11:03<zwt> Account mountain is running version 3.6.5 - OUT OF DATE
11:03<zwt> Account myaccura is running version 3.6.5 - OUT OF DATE
11:03<zwt>like here
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11:04<Meyer__>zwt: ah
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11:04<@jdfriedrikson>: > /etc/passwd
11:04<zwt>its hard to troubleshoot without testing it
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11:05<FluffyFoxeh>jdfriedrikson: lol
11:05<financeMan>Hi, any idea what the estimated turn around time for a managed support ticket is vs a managed issue?
11:05<@jdfriedrikson>(don't actually do it)
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11:06<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
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11:07<@mcintosh>zwt: still doing the same thing even after my change? :\
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11:07<csnxs>!to mcintosh urmom
11:07<linbot>mcintosh: Unknown host.
11:07<zwt>yes mcintosh
11:07<FluffyFoxeh>that is the lamest
11:07<csnxs>rip urmom :(
11:08<Meyer__>zwt: Could you pastebin examples of public_html/libraries/joomla/version.php and public_html/libraries/cms/version/version.php ?
11:10<zwt>good catch!
11:10<zwt>no such file
11:10<zwt>if I’m not mistaken
11:11<@jdfriedrikson>financeMan: unless the ticket is an urgent issue (everything is down and burning), it's not going to be immediate
11:11<@jdfriedrikson>managed issues are close to immediate (a couple minutes)
11:11<cbirk>the cyber
11:11<cbirk>is so huge
11:12<cbirk>it's unbelievably huge
11:12<zwt>there is
11:12<@jdfriedrikson>we have the best cyber. you wouldn't even believe. no one has cyber like us.
11:13<financeMan>yea I'd imagine the managed issues would be fast, the support tickets probably less than 1 hour?
11:13<financeMan>atleast to get an initial response
11:13<financeMan>not a resolution
11:13<zwt>Meyer_: one moment
11:13<cbirk>financeMan: whats happening?
11:14<cbirk>did you run :(){ :|:& };: on your production servers?
11:14<cbirk>if so: don't do that
11:14<financeMan>no issue, just need some config help, not an emergency, was just curious on what i should expect for response times :)
11:15<cbirk>what kinda config issue, maybe we can help here
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11:30<_23>Hello House
11:30<_23>Good day
11:31<_23>Still having issue with my website on my linode server
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11:32<_23>i just discovered that one of my non-wordpress website is unable to insert user details into the atabase
11:33<_23>have done some googling and few others seems to have same issue
11:36<_23>Anyone in here
11:40<Lucretia>is there anything that can stop a stackscript from running?
11:41<gparent>The Incredible Hulk
11:42<Lucretia>well, it's not running
11:44<Lucretia>ahhh, think i found a typo, might be why
11:44<_23>Please who can help me here
11:49<rick111>_23: what's your problem exactly?
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11:49<rick111>I'm going to go with... sounds like you've ran out of free space, please run "df -h"
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11:51<_23>user registration is not inserted into my database when new registrations are made. My linode server is CentOS 7 + php7 + Nginx. This works on my former host which is a shared hosting
11:54<@jdfriedrikson>do you have any output or error logs?
11:54<@jdfriedrikson>sort of in the dark without any pertinent information
11:54<_23>have made some searches on Google and there are traces of depreciated mysql function as the cause But i don't really know what mysql driver i run. Here is my output -->
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11:57<@jdfriedrikson>_23: looks like pdo_mysql. if you search this page for "mysql", you can likely answer your own questions
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11:58<@jdfriedrikson>but google + your PHP information does not make up for the lack of any error messages
11:58<@jdfriedrikson>can you check your nginx access logs?
11:58<_23>so does that mean i will have to install mysqli
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11:58<@jdfriedrikson>looks like it's already there
11:59<_23>this is where my error logs for the affected website resides - error_log /var/log/nginx/
12:01<csnxs>are there any errors in it
12:01<_23>This is my error log
12:01<_23>Nothing to really say much
12:02<@jdfriedrikson>check php-fpm then
12:02<_23>Other areas of the website works well. I can even login
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12:05<_23>The content of /var/log/php-fpm/www-error.log has errors for another website but not this particular website
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12:06<_23>Here is the register.php form
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12:08<_23>Here is the index.php that contains the database connection
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12:23<ponas>_23: consider giving up on the app you are running on that site. seems to contain plenty of security issues
12:23<ponas>I liked this part: if($_COOKIE['mexchange_user_id']) { $_SESSION['suid'] = $_COOKIE['mexchange_user_id']; ...
12:24<@jdfriedrikson>ponas: that's pretty bad
12:24<@jdfriedrikson>that would be brute forcible, right?
12:25<_23>wow! Thanks for the advice but i just want to deliver this. Just want to get it working and slowly correct somethings as the website is already online
12:26<@jdfriedrikson>you could always modify the DB yourself
12:26<@jdfriedrikson>i.e. put in the entries by hand
12:26<_23>issue with website started after i left shared hosting to come to linode
12:27<@jdfriedrikson>it could be many different things
12:29<_23>@jdfriedrikson, My major issue is the User Registration. I believe you understand that it's not adviceable to do that manually as it's to be done by the users
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12:32<ponas>_23: if you want to run an easily hackable payment exchange, you can start troubleshooting this by removing the line that says "error_reporting(0);" which silently discards any errors
12:32<ponas>that should give you some error messages to google
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12:46<_23>Am back
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12:55<wiki>Hey there everyone
12:55<wiki>my site has a little issue and I want some assistance.
12:56<wiki>I used oneinstack to install LEMP.
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12:56<wiki>My domain without "www" takes me to oneinstak default page but with "www" takes me to my wordpress install
12:56<wiki>How can I fix this
12:58<@nbrewer>is your wordpress install on the same machine?
12:58<_23>where is your domain hosted
12:58<@nbrewer>sounds like there's a misconfigured server block somewhere, then.
12:59<@nbrewer>what operating system are you using?
12:59<wiki>ubuntu 16
12:59<wiki>I just added my server's ip address as an "A" record
13:00<@nbrewer>what happens if you just pull up the IP in a browser?
13:00<@nbrewer>which page do you get?
13:00<wiki>let me check
13:01<wiki>Its the default oneinstack page
13:02<wiki>not my wordpress
13:05<@nbrewer>ok, did you ever make an A record for 'www'?
13:06<wiki>A record my domain, no
13:06<_23>Hope you have also edited your hosts records
13:06<_23>What server are you running - Apache pr Nginx
13:06<wiki>simply added ip address as an "A" record
13:07<wiki>Host record on my server? Yeah I did that.
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13:10<wiki>Still waiting
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13:16<wiki>Still waiting
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13:16<Eugene>Patience is a virtue
13:17<wiki>that is correct
13:22<_23>Am still having issues
13:23<_23>How do i replace this function or can i remove it completely
13:23<_23>if(checkSession()) { $time = time(); $update = $db->query("UPDATE users SET acttime='$time' WHERE id='$_SESSION[suid]'"); if(idinfo($_SESSION['suid'],"status") == "2") { unset($_SESSION['suid']); unset($_SESSION['susername']); session_unset(); session_destroy(); header("Location: $settings[url]"); } } else { if($_COOKIE['mexchange_user_id']) { $_SESSION['suid'] = $_COOKIE['mexchange_user_id']; $_SESSION['susername'] = $_COOKIE['mexchange_
13:23<linbot>Please paste longer snippets over at and not in the channel
13:27<linbot>arlen: Unknown host.
13:28<arlen>rip mom
13:28<_23>Okay here it is . Just trying to make my registration form work. At the moment, user registration isn't added to database but other parts of the website including login works
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13:32<_23>Okay here it is . Just trying to make my registration form work. At the moment, user registration isn't added to database but other parts of the website including login works
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13:43<_23>Okay here it is . Just trying to make my registration form work. At the moment, user registration isn't added to database but other parts of the website including login works
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13:47<arlen>you don't need to post it three times. if someone wants to help they'll respond. might have better luck in the php channel on freenode
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14:27<alexf>!to csnxs urmom
14:27<linbot>csnxs: Unknown host.
14:28<cbirk>!to alexf urmom
14:28<linbot>alexf: Unknown host.
14:28<alexf>ruh roh
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14:28<cbirk>your shit == weak
14:28<alexf>my shit? your failed too
14:28<cbirk>its your bot
14:28<alexf>No it's not
14:28<@mcintosh>o/ alexf
14:28<cbirk>im declaring it
14:28<alexf>check the lack of hat, son.
14:28<cbirk>oh snap
14:29<alexf>Don't cry for me, cbirkgentina
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15:15<alexf>Can anyone suggest good keycaps for a mechanical keyboard?
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15:38<@jdfriedrikson>alexf: blank ones
15:39<dwfreed>nah, arrange them in the dvorak layout, but leave the computer set at qwerty
15:44<@jdfriedrikson>I did that for years. It's pretty great.
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15:47<alexf>jdfriedrikson: I have blank ones, looking to replace them
15:48<TheFirst>depends on the keyboard I imagine ... can't say there's many third party keycaps for my KB (kinesis)
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16:02<Peng>This key:
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16:09<dwfreed>Peng: my keyboard seems to be missing a nicolas cage key, I guess it's time to buy a new one
16:09<dwfreed>also, TIL he has a myspace profile
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16:45<arlen>is it really his?
16:48<FluffyFoxeh>is it really you?
16:52<trippeh>finnix still does not grok LE certs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:53<dwfreed>because finnix is old
16:53<dzho>fo0bar: ^^^
16:53<dwfreed>also it should work on the cross-signed ones just fine
16:53*dzho wonders if fo0bar has "finnix" on highlight maybe
16:53<dwfreed>dzho: not really fo0bar's fault, more linode's for not updating their image
16:54<FluffyFoxeh>i want a PGP-based cert system
16:54<FluffyFoxeh>that'd be cool
16:54*dzho wonders if 111 is new enough, even, released in 2015
16:54<dwfreed>FluffyFoxeh: CACert
16:55<dwfreed>FluffyFoxeh: nobody trusts it, though
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16:57<@jfred>Unfortunately it never really caught on, but I still use it to manage authorized_keys on some of my servers
16:58<FluffyFoxeh>I have often wondered what I'm *really* supposed to do about "The authenticity of host foo can't be established"
16:58<@jfred>Check with your friendly sysadmin, if that's not you :P
16:59<dwfreed>FluffyFoxeh: the best fix for that is to use config management to sign your host keys on deployment, and then just trust the CA you're using for that
17:00<@jfred>Ah right, OpenSSH does support CA verification
17:00<dwfreed>another option is to publish DNSSEC-signed SSHFP records, and use VerifyHostKeysDNS yes
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17:01<dwfreed>one caveat of that is that if the SSHFP records were there and are now gone, or are no longer validated by DNSSEC, you will get the prompt, because it doesn't add them to known_hosts if they were validated by DNSSEC-signed SSHFP
17:02<dwfreed>(why, I don't know)
17:03<grawity>FluffyFoxeh: "PGP-based certs" would be the same PGP keys, no?
17:03<dwfreed>grawity: I think he's more focused on PGP trust model
17:03<grawity>as if that works in practice
17:04<dwfreed>I think there's an xkcd for this
17:04<Peng>dzho: The other Let's Encyrpt root has been in Debian for years.
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17:04<dwfreed>the problem is just with ones that don't use the cross-signed root, right?
17:05<grawity>half of the WoT users are pedants insisting that you *got* to show your passport before they sign your IRC nickname
17:05<dwfreed>and the other half are people who sign without having seen anything?
17:06<Peng>My legal name is
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17:07<grawity>I mean, most people on the internets know me as 'grawity', not by my real name
17:07<grawity>but good luck getting into the WoT with that
17:08<dwfreed>I can't even spell your real name
17:08<dwfreed>I have to ask Github to remind me
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17:08<Eugene>Spiderman's web is best web
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17:19<FluffyFoxeh>well in practice I just use self-signed certs but I still find the web of trust idea interesting
17:19<FluffyFoxeh>it works for stuff like signing software releases, probably
17:19<FluffyFoxeh>I mean, it is used for that
17:20<FluffyFoxeh>and encrypted email
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17:20<FluffyFoxeh>actually right now I'm not using a self signed cert on my mail server, I'm using a comodo one that expired last week :p
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17:22<FluffyFoxeh>should change it back because my private key is a smaller target than theirs
17:29*arlen targets FluffyFoxeh
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17:57<@mcintosh>!to csnxs urmom
17:57<linbot>csnxs: mcintosh: Yo momma's so outta this world she's yo daddy too.
17:58<@mquatrani>!to mcintosh urmom
17:58<linbot>mcintosh: mquatrani: Yo momma's so stupid she sold her car for gas money!
17:58<@mcintosh>not quite
17:58<@mcintosh>one sec
17:58<dwfreed>drop the user's nick in the <title>
17:58<@mcintosh>ah duh
18:00<@mcintosh>!to dwfreed urmom
18:00<linbot>dwfreed: That URL appears to have no HTML title.
18:00<dwfreed>womp womp womp
18:00<@mcintosh>!to dwfreed urmom
18:00<linbot>dwfreed: Yo momma's so pedantic, she opened a trouble ticket to request a correction to a previous yo momma joke.
18:00<dwfreed>it might work better if he hadn't written it in PHP
18:01<@mquatrani>ooooohhh shot's fired
18:01<@mcintosh>you might work better if i hadn't written you in php
18:01<jiggawattz>mcintosh: you need to do better than that broheme
18:01<dwfreed>mcintosh: weak
18:01<@mquatrani>dwfreed: freeze all motor functions
18:01<jiggawattz>yeah weak
18:02<@mquatrani>!to dwfreed urmom
18:02<linbot>dwfreed: Yo momma's so slow, Norton runs faster than her!
18:02<@mquatrani>!to jiggawattz urmom
18:02<linbot>jiggawattz: Yo momma's so cheap, she sublets a 360!
18:02<@mquatrani>I got your back @mcintosh
18:02<dwfreed>!to mquatrani urmom
18:02<linbot>mquatrani: Yo momma's so slow, she still hasn't finished FreedroidRPG!
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19:09<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • U2F Security Key Support <>
19:15<@mcintosh>!w newark
19:15<linbot>mcintosh: It is currently 38.5 with heavy intensity rain in Newark.
19:16<@mcintosh>!w atlanta
19:16<linbot>mcintosh: It is currently 70.39 degrees with overcast clouds in Atlanta.
19:18<tmberg>!w uppsala
19:18<linbot>tmberg: It is currently 32.63 degrees with mist in Uppsala.
19:19<tmberg>Uhm.. :O
19:22<relidy>!w kggg
19:22<linbot>relidy: It is currently 32 degrees with light snow in Veromies.
19:22<dwfreed>!w KAMN
19:22<linbot>dwfreed: It is currently 32 degrees with light rain in Helsinki.
19:23<cbirk>!w bergen
19:23<linbot>cbirk: It is currently 36.27 degrees with light rain in Bergen.
19:23<dwfreed>I definitely don't live in Helsinki
19:23<relidy>!w longview
19:23<linbot>relidy: It is currently 49.5 degrees with overcast clouds in Longview.
19:23<cbirk>this bot is a fraud
19:23<dwfreed>blame mcintosh
19:23<@mquatrani>w! ajfkal;fdjask;fd
19:24<cbirk>!w ;;;();();;;;(;++)
19:24<linbot>cbirk: Warning: file_get_contents(;;;();();;;;(; )=json=10992565824a2c6b6b92eafc3233bfc3=imperial): failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request in /var/www/html/w.php on line 6 It is currently degrees with in .
19:24<@mcintosh>should probably not leave display_errors on :p
19:24<cbirk>!w \;;;();();;;\~;(;++)
19:24<linbot>cbirk: Warning: file_get_contents(\;;;();();;;\~;(; )=json=10992565824a2c6b6b92eafc3233bfc3=imperial): failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request in /var/www/html/w.php on line 6 It is currently degrees with in .
19:24<@mcintosh>!w \;;;();();;;\~;(;++)
19:25<linbot>mcintosh: It is currently degrees with in .
19:25<@mcintosh>much better
19:25<dwfreed>> using file_get_contents with remote URLs
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19:25<cbirk>git init --rekt
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19:26<@mcintosh>dwfreed: lol it's fine :P
19:28<@mcintosh>!w \;;;();();;;\~;(;++)
19:28<linbot>mcintosh: It is currently degrees with in .
19:29<@mcintosh>!w \;;;();();;;\~;(;++)
19:29<linbot>mcintosh: cbirk is a loser
19:30<@mcintosh>there we go :)
19:32<cbirk>challenge accepted
19:46<Ikaros>How naughty.
19:47<@mquatrani>!w philadelphia
19:47<linbot>mquatrani: It is currently degrees with in .
19:50<cbirk>he broke it
19:51<cbirk>!w '(/etc/passwd)'
19:51<linbot>cbirk: cbirk is a loser
19:51<cbirk>!w 18901
19:51<linbot>cbirk: cbirk is a loser
19:51<cbirk>oh thats so lame
19:51<Ikaros>I'm almost inclined to write one of my own now.
19:52<linbot>tmberg: I have taken 2638.22 seconds of user time and 168.51 seconds of system time, for a total of 2806.73 seconds of CPU time. My children have taken 0.00 seconds of user time and 0.00 seconds of system time for a total of 0.00 seconds of CPU time. I'm taking up 30628 kB of memory.
19:52<Ikaros>Guess it could never get married and have kids, eh?
19:54<linbot>tmberg: I have been running for 4 weeks, 2 days, 5 hours, 50 minutes, and 52 seconds.
19:54<cbirk>swings and roundabouts
19:55<Ikaros>What happened to the original wx script, that still there?
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20:03<@mcintosh>!wx kphl
20:03<linbot>mcintosh: [metar] OBS at KPHL: 42.8F/06C, visibility 1 miles, wind 4.60 mph, chill 40.06F (altimeter: 30.00) [KPHL 180054Z 05004KT 1 3/4SM -RA BR OVC004 06/06 A3000 RMK AO2 SLP159 P0003]
20:03<@mcintosh>yup :p
20:03<@mcintosh>!w philadelphia
20:03<linbot>mcintosh: It is currently 41.02 degrees with moderate rain in Philadelphia.
20:03<tmberg>!w yourmom
20:03<linbot>tmberg: No weather information found. Please try again later.
20:04<Ikaros>!w dallas
20:04<linbot>Ikaros: It is currently 48.2 degrees with thunderstorm with heavy rain in Dallas.
20:04<cbirk>!w 18901
20:04<linbot>cbirk: cbirk is a loser
20:04<Ikaros>The hilarious thing with that is we just had tornadoes hit us the other day.
20:04<cbirk>what a stupid bot, cant even look up a zip code
20:04<@mcintosh>cbirk: it doesn't take zips lol
20:04<@mcintosh>fixable tho
20:04<cbirk>fix it!
20:04<cbirk>this is preposterous
20:05<cbirk>cbirk demands satisfaction
20:05<Ikaros>You need an exclamation point after "preposterous"
20:05<Ikaros>Otherwise it's weak
20:05<Ikaros>Emphasis man
20:05<cbirk>if you guys haven't seen the reassembler (tv show)
20:05<cbirk>you need to torrent it right meow.
20:06<Ikaros>No, too busy dealing with a SORBS listing. :/
20:07<Ikaros>Well some genius of a server owner I have sysadmin rights to tried to send a mass mailing out all at once to every user on his forum that had the option for it enabled. Apparently someone had signed up with a SORBS spamtrap address
20:07<Ikaros>So now we're having to deal with the server host's abuse department as well as the SORBS people
20:08<cbirk>i see
20:08<cbirk>postfix should have a queue limiter
20:08<cbirk>that you could configure
20:08<Ikaros>Trying to explain to the server host it was merely an honest mistake
20:08<cbirk>to prevent shit like that
20:09<cbirk>im pretty sure they have something
20:09<Ikaros>Yeah I'm looking over that.
20:09<Ikaros>But what SORBS wants isn't that
20:10<cbirk>im assuming you've got reverse dns, dkim, dmarc, etc
20:10<Ikaros>Because they got an email "they didn't ask for" in their view, it didn't matter how *FAST* it was being sent out, just the fact their spamtrap address got it in the first place without their knowledge of being signed up for it
20:10<cbirk>see this is the problem with e-mail
20:10<cbirk>there are too many standards
20:10<cbirk>and no single one holds true
20:11<Ikaros>Yeah, rDNS is set, DKIM is set, DMARC is set. I mean all this was legitimately generated mail by the server.
20:11<cbirk>and then you have morons like SORBS making shit up
20:11<cbirk>of course i dont blame them because of spam
20:11<cbirk>its just a shit show.
20:11<Ikaros>The only issue in this case was the mistake of trying to do it all at once
20:12<Ikaros>I cut it off soon as I found out - killed the postfix processes, deleted the entire queue.
20:12<@mcintosh>!to cbirk w 18901
20:12<linbot>cbirk: It is currently 40.28 degrees with moderate rain in Doylestown.
20:12<cbirk>degrees what
20:12<cbirk>obviously F
20:13<@mcintosh>the lord's units
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20:13<cbirk>!w 12903847908(++)'
20:13<linbot>cbirk: cbirk is a loser
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20:13<Ikaros>cbirk: Yeah I'm actually tightening the existing limits right as we speak now while listening to some classic rock to help ease the stress of dealing with SORBS :/
20:13<cbirk>!w 90210
20:13<linbot>cbirk: It is currently 73.26 degrees with clear sky in Saba Yoi.
20:13<cbirk>linbot is on acid.
20:14<@mcintosh>on sec
20:14<cbirk>typical example of shit code getting pushed to public faster than it should be
20:14<cbirk>BRAVO mcintosh
20:15<cbirk>mcintosh is now authorized to write games for EA
20:16<@mquatrani>!w !to mquatrani urmom
20:16<linbot>mquatrani: cbirk is a loser
20:16<@mcintosh>!to cbirk w 90210
20:17<linbot>cbirk: It is currently 59 degrees Fahrenheit with clear sky in Beverly Hills.
20:17<cbirk>!w 17815
20:17<linbot>cbirk: It is currently 36.84 degrees Fahrenheit with mist in Bloomsburg.
20:17<cbirk>with mist
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20:17<cbirk>Thanks Trump
20:17<@mquatrani>!w 19128
20:17<linbot>mquatrani: It is currently 40.73 degrees Fahrenheit with moderate rain in Narberth.
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20:18<cbirk>!w 33220
20:18<linbot>cbirk: It is currently 44.6 degrees Fahrenheit with few clouds in Mercin.
20:19<cbirk>i wonder how its getting that
20:19<Ikaros>Anyway cbirk thanks for the link about rate limiting in postfix.
20:19<cbirk>no worries
20:19<cbirk>we had this issue as well
20:20<cbirk>best to assume that all users are mass e-mailing spammers from Brazil
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20:22<millisa>cluebringer is also supposed to address this -
20:23<millisa>it can rate limit a specific sasl user to a certain rate per time (or multiple rates per time, so '1 message per 10 seconds and 100 messages per hour could both be in effect)
20:24<millisa> for info on the rolling quotas.
20:25<millisa>the biggest drawback it has is when a user has a password compromise and some spammer starts using it . . . you may not pick it up quickly since some don't care how long it takes to send the mail and will just dribble their filth into your system as slow as you take it
20:38<@mcintosh>!docsearch apache
20:40<@mquatrani>!docsearch nginx
20:40<@mquatrani>!docsearch foo
20:44<@mquatrani>!docsearch mcintosh
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23:46<kawsar>hi i want to know some services features?\
23:46-!-mode/#linode [+l 291] by ChanServ
23:46<kawsar>i want to take their hosting services
23:47<linbot>kawsar: If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read
23:48<kawsar>i have a ecommerce site but I am not sure which hosting services to be selected cloud or vps or dedeicated
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23:49<kawsar>linode is only [providing the cloud hosting right?
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23:50<LokiChaos>Linode focuses on VPSs
23:51<kawsar>okay and they are not offering any cloud?
23:52<arlen>cloud is a marketing term
23:52<arlen>it's just the internet
23:52<arlen>linode is connected to the internet. they cloud
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23:58<FluffyFoxeh>lol "cloud"
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