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00:03<zoannon>thanks
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00:03<arlen>welcome
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00:04<Ikaros>Mmm, and for the record, it was probably the same bots that hit here before.
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00:23<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Custom CPU socket vs core KVM Configuration <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14505&p=72582#p72582>
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00:32<Ajay>HI
00:32<Ajay>I would like to replicate my one VM to another
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00:32<Ajay>what can i do for this
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00:35<arlen>clone it
00:35<arlen>https://www.linode.com/docs/migrate-to-linode/disk-images/clone-your-linode
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01:17<Xz__>hi there
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01:17<Xz__>I forgot my web account loging
01:17<Xz__>login
01:17<Xz__>and cannot connect to my VPS box, ssh is hanging
01:17<Xz__>bad day
01:18<Xz__>ssh <my-box-ip>, then enter, then I type password and than it's just hanging
01:18<Xz__>no error message, nothing
01:18<Xz__> cannot even kill that damn thing, ctrl+c is not doing anything
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01:29<Xz__>Jan 24 06:28:37 debian sshd[22568]: Failed password for root from 58.218.20...h2
01:29<Xz__>somebody is bruteforcing my sshd
01:29<Xz__>wtf???
01:29<Peng>Xz__: There are always SSH brute force attacks.
01:30<Xz__>Peng: what's that?
01:30<Xz__>Peng: are you telling me random peoople go over the internet and try to break into VPS boxes?
01:30<Peng>Xz__: Yes.
01:30<Peng>Xz__: There are only 4 billion IPv4 addresses, it's easy for botnets to scan every IP address and try them.
01:30<Xz__>Peng: ok, I might as well move sshd to 443
01:30<Xz__>Peng: will that help?
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01:31<Xz__>Peng: because currently my sshd is not performing very well
01:31<Peng>Xz__: You might want to disable password authentication, especially for root, but unless you have one of the top ten worst passwords ever, you'll be fine.
01:31<Xz__>Peng: I have 123456, should be good
01:31<Peng>Xz__: A small number of attackers shouldn't harm SSH performance.
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01:34<Xz__>well, something is really odd as anytime I try to login, I input my password and then client just hangs
01:35<Xz__>never get to actual prompt
01:37<Peng>Hrmm
01:37<Peng>I can think of a few plausible things it *might* be *maybe*.
01:37<Xz__>Peng: I disabled root logins and moved port from 22 to 443, now at least I got rid of that dude who tried to break into
01:37<Xz__>Peng: but client still hangs
01:38<Peng>Xz__: Try using -v more. "ssh -v <your-box-ip>", "ssh -vv <your-box-ip>".
01:38<Xz__>Peng: even though sshd in logs says 'session opened'
01:38<Peng>You can go up to like 3-4 "v"s and they get progressively more noisy.
01:38<Xz__>debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] debug1: Requesting no-more-sessions@openssh.com debug1: Entering interactive session. debug1: pledge: network debug1: Sending environment. debug1: Sending env LANG = en_US.UTF-8
01:39<Xz__>gets authenticated, then that
01:40<Peng>Can you log in at all?
01:41<Xz__>debug2: channel 0: request shell confirm 1 debug3: send packet: type 98 debug2: callback done debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768
01:41<Xz__>Peng: no, only using webbrowser + lish
01:41<Xz__>Peng: from linode.com
01:41<Peng>You can also use lish over SSH, for what it's worth.
01:41<Xz__>Peng: I would love to get regular ssh up & running
01:41<Xz__>might look for help on ##linux
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01:42<Peng>Xz__: You can use regular SSH to lish. It works now. You're not SSHing to your node, you're SSHing to a Linode server, which logs in via the same serial console as browser lish.
01:43<Xz__>Peng: I see
01:43<Peng>I'm just saying that for what it's worth. It's not as fun as your normal SSH server, but you might prefer it to the browser thing.
01:43<Xz__>Peng: that hangs as well ...
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01:44<Peng>O_O
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01:44<Xz__>Peng: maybe my client is bad
01:44<Peng>Maybe. I dunno.
01:44<Xz__>Peng: I'm running Ubuntu 16.04LTS live persistent from USB stick
01:45<Xz__>Peng: will poke here and there
01:46<Peng>Can you SSH to anything else? Some other server, github.com, something?
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01:48<Xz__>Peng: I don't have anyt other server currently that I could try to ssh to
01:51<Xz__>Peng: I can ssh to localhost ;)
01:54<Peng>Heh
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02:05<Xz>by the way, how do I disconnect from web lish session?
02:05<Xz>ctrl a d that I use for screen closes my lish session :(
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02:06<Xz>I guess I wanted to ask 'how do I detach screen running in lish over web'
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03:12<FluffyFoxeh>Xz: pressing ctrl a twice is usually the way to command nested screen sessions
03:13<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Custom CPU socket vs core KVM Configuration <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14505&p=72583#p72583>
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03:15<dcraig>Ctrl + A A A gets you a tow truck lol
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03:46<manoj>Hi
03:46<arlen>hi
03:47<manoj>i did buy cloud server from linode
03:47<arlen>excellent
03:47<manoj>and i have some technical issue on server
03:48<manoj>i had raised ticket also
03:48<arlen>they'll answer it as soon as possible but feel free to describe your problem here in lots of detail and someone might be able to help
03:48<manoj>and the ticket number is 7426562
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03:49<arlen>this is the community channel we can't answer tickets
03:49<arlen>or look them up
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03:49<manoj>sure i tell you the problem here
03:49<arlen>excellent
03:49<manoj>actuly i have got ubuntu 16.10
03:49<manoj> and it has package mysql 5.7
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03:50<manoj>i need to install mysql 5.6 anyhow there
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03:51<manoj>i tried to install mysql 5.6 but i am getting below message
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03:52<nate>manoj: why do you need 5.6 over 5.7?
03:53<manoj>The following packages have unmet dependencies: mysql-server-5.6 : Depends: initscripts but it is not installable Recommends: libhtml-template-perl but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
03:53<manoj>the above message i am gettig there
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03:55<manoj>actuly in mysql 5.7 it has chaged some sql command protocol and it does'nt support to the application i have made
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03:58<manoj>are you there??
04:00<nate>manoj: What "sql command protocol"? I don't recall any major changes. Worst case you could grab the latest 5.6.x and just compile it yourself since your package manager is missing packages required
04:02<manoj>there is an option obiously to install mysql 5.6 there
04:03<manoj>the support teaam has sent some command for that to me
04:03<manoj>apt-get update apt-get upgrade -y dpkg-reconfigure -a
04:04<manoj>the above command i have tried but still i am unable to install mysql 5.6 there
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04:06<manoj>even last time in have installed mysql 5.6 on same version ony the hosting provider was host1plust
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04:07<kyhwana>sounds like some ownage waiting to happen
04:07<kyhwana>manoj: build mysql 5.6 yourself?
04:13<manoj>could you provide ubuntu 13 or 14 there
04:14<Meyer_>manoj: are you running ubuntu?
04:14<manoj>it has no mysql dependancies and able to install mysql 5.6
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04:15<manoj>ys ubuntu 16.10
04:15<Meyer_>manoj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/762384/install-mysql-5-6-on-ubuntu-16-04
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04:15<Meyer_>manoj: the first answer there should tell you what you need to do
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04:17<manoj>i have tried this and it woks many times
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04:17<manoj>only this time it is also unable to install mysql5.6
04:19<Meyer_>so, what error do you get?
04:22<manoj>The following packages have unmet dependencies: mysql-server-5.6 : Depends: initscripts but it is not installable Recommends: libhtml-template-perl but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
04:22<manoj>above errot i am getting..
04:32<manoj>are you there??
04:32<ponas>manoj: you need to reinstall the broken packages
04:33<ponas>i.e. libhtml-template-perl
04:34<ponas>a $FAVORITE_SEARCH_ENGINE search for "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages" can tell you more
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04:48<manoj>i am not finding any better solution
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05:14<waypointpos>Hi
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05:17<manoj>u there??
05:17<Cromulent>hi
05:18<arlen>hi
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05:28<JamesTK>hu
05:28<JamesTK>hi
05:31<manoj>HI
05:31<manoj>hi
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05:50<manoj>still i am hoping some option from yourside that i can install mysql 5.6 on server
05:50<manoj>are you there??
05:56<arlen>there isn't an option except the ones you were already given
05:56<arlen>linode sells unmanaged virtual servers, its up to you to do everything
05:58<manoj>better you can provide lower version ubuntu 13 or 14
06:00<arlen>there's an ubuntu 14.04 image available if you want to use it
06:01<manoj>ok
06:01<manoj>great
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07:22<JamesTK>...why does atlassian buy stuff and make it crap?
07:22<JamesTK>!!!
07:22<JamesTK>statuspage is atlassian owned now :/
07:22<JamesTK>Also, wow, it's 2017 and status.linode.com still has 2014 in the copyright footer
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07:27<dzho>JamesTK: given how long copyright lasts, I think they're fine with that
07:27<JamesTK>lol
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07:28<dzho>"OH NO WE ONLY HAVE ANOTHER 118 YEARS BEFORE IT EXPIRES, WE BETTER UPDATE IT"
07:31<dzho>I guess since it's been published, that's 93 years. ish.
07:31<dzho>"published"
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07:55<DrJ>so typically on ubuntu the root account is disabled
07:55<DrJ>does the linode build have it enabled when you first boot it up or do you use a different login
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07:56<@nbrewer>it's enabled, so you can log in and make your own user.
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07:59<DrJ>thanks
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08:05<Zimsky>JamesTK: gotta reserve the rights of that status page
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09:17<@jdfriedrikson>^ lol
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09:27<dwfreed>jdfriedrikson: it had to be done
09:30<Nivex>Azure!
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09:30<@jdfriedrikson>to be clear, I have no problem with Windows servers existing
09:31<@jdfriedrikson>but when you're coming to a company whose name is a portmanteau of Linux + node, and asking for better Windows support
09:31<@jdfriedrikson>you probably should not expect much, if anything
09:31<Nivex>You should apparently expect the level of snark that has been delivered.
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09:32<@jdfriedrikson>honestly sounds like a drivers issue
09:32<nate>so
09:32<nate>wait
09:32<nate>his gripe is
09:32<nate>he's paying for a 2-core linode
09:32<nate>but he wants his windows linode, to see all 8 system cores...?
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09:32<@jdfriedrikson>¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I honestly have no clue
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09:33<ponas>I'd also like to pay for a 2-core node and get 8 cores!
09:33<@nbrewer>I think he's saying he has an 8-core Linode but Windows only sees 2 of the cores.
09:33<hawk>nate, jdfriedrikson: I think it's a seprate sockets vs same socket with more cores thing. Probably boils down to licensing
09:37<hawk>ie, he would prefer the 8 cores that he's paying for to be presented as two sockets with 4 cores each, rather than 8 sockets (which probably requires some extra expensive license)
09:38<nate>I didn't realize windows server licensed a limit on cores
09:38<@jdfriedrikson>I wonder why this is Linode's fault
09:39<Nivex>tbh he did ask nicely
09:39<hawk>jdfriedrikson: It's a feature request, from how I read it
09:39<Nivex>I do think he'd be happier on a Windows oriented host though.
09:39<Nivex>Azure or AWS
09:39<@jdfriedrikson>he did ask pretty nicely. now I feel bad.
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09:40<hawk>It is something that kvm+qemu is capable of doing, whether Linode is interested of exposing that type of functionality is of course a different question
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09:40<@mcintosh>if enough people asked for it, we might be
09:41<@mcintosh>a single windows user is probably not breaching the threshold of "enough" however
09:41<@jdfriedrikson>(unlikely)
09:41<@jdfriedrikson>unless it was an issue not exclusive to Windows
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09:42<amayer>I can run Windows on all my Linode Hosts? Man Im such a sucker. Iver been running Linux this whole time.
09:43<amayer>:p
09:43<@jdfriedrikson>I don't think I've payed for software for 5 years now (except for games)
09:43<amayer>jdfriedrikson: 7+ years for me
09:44<@jdfriedrikson>I can't imagine going back to using a pay-to-play operation system
09:44<@jdfriedrikson>is Windows server free? How does AWS and Azure do their licensing?
09:45<amayer>I had to sit in on a meeting at work (im a developer) and listen to the contract agreement for our virtual server (Windows Hyper-V). I have never heard the term "license" so many times in one sitting. And he kept saying "We can get you a discount because you are a small company"... Im like "I can do all this for free".
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09:47<@jdfriedrikson>well, I mean, it's not for "free". You just have to have $skills
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09:48<@jdfriedrikson>I mean, technically RH's software is completely free but the support they provide for their stuff makes them a pretty penny
09:48<@jdfriedrikson>s/RH/$enterprise_linux_company/
09:52<Nivex>I haven't had to deal with it much, but as I understand it if you cloud host Windows, the licensing is included in the fees.
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09:53<@jdfriedrikson>hmmmm
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09:59<trippeh>at oldjob, we had a Excel cluster.
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10:00<trippeh>doing automated Excel jobs for SAP
10:00<trippeh>it... worked fine
10:02<@jdfriedrikson>you can do anything with Excel. I used to work with it myself. There are certain weird tools like Excel and AutoCAD that the open source world haven't seemed to surplant :9(
10:02<@jdfriedrikson>:(*
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10:07<seagren>is anyone around
10:07<@nbrewer>!ask
10:07<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
10:07<seagren>about linode
10:07<seagren>why did my account got deleted w/o notice
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10:08<@nbrewer>we can't pull up any of your account info via irc.
10:09<seagren>my account was already confirmed and has money in it and i have been using for couple of days suddenly when iwas trying to login my account was gone
10:09<seagren>i tried making a new and and to my surpise i got a new account with the same email and same username
10:10<seagren>so it means they deleted my account
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10:13<seagren>can someone please tell linode admins
10:13<@nbrewer>seagren: send an email. we cannot look up accounts via irc.
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10:14<seagren>no one responds on email
10:14<@nbrewer>we respond to emails and tickets as quickly as we can, someone will get to yours as soon as possible.
10:14<@jleal>you'll want to be patient, if they've received your email they will respond as soon as they are able
10:14<@jleal>hay, jinx!
10:14<@jleal><3
10:16<seagren>my account got deleted for no reason
10:16<seagren>wtf!
10:16<cbirk>maybe trump did it
10:16<cbirk>Thanks, Trump.
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10:17<Nivex>Trump is far too busy being worried about his own popularity to worry about yours.
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10:20<@jdfriedrikson>We've got the best Linodes. Hands down.
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10:22<@jalter>Tiny hands down.
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10:25<linbot>New news from forum: Feature Request/Bug Report • Custom CPU socket vs core KVM Configuration <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14505&p=72588#p72588>
10:26<dwfreed>hawk: so the problem with presenting 8 cores as 2 sockets with 4 cores each is that the system will assume you have 2 NUMA nodes; this will result in one of two things: either KVM will restrict each group of 4 cores to only ever get scheduled on the same real NUMA node, which will cause performance issues due to contention, or it'll still schedule them freely, and the guest will think it can reschedule
10:26<dwfreed>processes between cores it thinks are on the same NUMA node, but really aren't, and see up to 30% performance penalty for cross NUMA node operation
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10:28<@jdfriedrikson>"I'm sure there must be ways in which this can be done without impacting the community."
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10:28<dwfreed>jdfriedrikson: I mean, technically yes
10:28<@jdfriedrikson>I don't think they understand what that sort of change requires
10:28<Meyer_>I believe that is the wrong application for a Linode
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10:29<Meyer_>I think the person would be better served by using for example Amazon Workspaces
10:29<dwfreed>jdfriedrikson: I can't imagine KVM has changed much about how things work compared to Xen; I could have something implemented probably within a day
10:29<Meyer_>AWS even has a Workspaces offering with a GPU and excel can accelerate calculations if there is a gpu available
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10:30<dwfreed>of course, having existing knowledge about how Linode works internally helps with that :)
10:30<@jdfriedrikson>^
10:30<dwfreed>Meyer_: I doubt Excel is capable of using GPUs, considering this is just VBA macros we're talking about
10:30<dwfreed>like, their code is written in Visual Basic 6
10:30<Meyer_>dwfreed: I know excel can use a gpu for certain things. Unclear if this particular use case is one of them
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10:31<dwfreed>jdfriedrikson: but ultimately the problem is how this will affect scheduling, both from KVM's perspective and the guest's perspective, as I mentioned
10:32<@jdfriedrikson>I honestly cannot think of a single use case under normal operation
10:33<dwfreed>yeah, there's no real benefit, unless you're either pinning vCPUs to pCPUs, or setting vCPUs to match pCPUs
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11:25<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Ok to disable, or have really high, notification threshholds? <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14501&p=72590#p72590> || Feature Request/Bug Report • Custom CPU socket vs core KVM Configuration <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14505&p=72589#p72589>
11:34<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
11:35<@mcintosh>Eugene: pics or it didn't happen
11:37<Eugene>https://goo.gl/photos/XGu19poyL6qRg3RV9
11:38<csnxs>this is not sufficient proof - where's the linode sticker on your forehead?
11:38<@jdfriedrikson>are you shirtless? this is amazing
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11:39<@jdfriedrikson>I wish I could Linode in bed all day
11:39<Eugene>In the box o' junk in the closet, I believe. I'm not hunting it down for a photo op
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11:40<@jdfriedrikson>we could get you a t-shirt. since you seem to be lacking one.
11:41*csnxs steals mcintosh's shirt and chucks it at Eugene
11:41<Eugene>I do like shirts
11:41<linbot>csnxs: Yo momma's so fat, she could not fit into a TB of RAM.
11:41<csnxs>something something FAT32...
11:41<@jdfriedrikson>to be honest, the physcial dimensions for a TB of ram aren't really that large
11:41<@jdfriedrikson>I feel that's an unfair assessment about csnxs' mother
11:42<@mcintosh>oh you think im wearing a shirt? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
11:42<gparent>maybe she's such a unique woman that she's very difficult to compress.
11:42<@jdfriedrikson>I can confirm that mcintosh is wearing a sweater. Not sure about a shirt. Didn't check.
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11:42<csnxs>mcintosh, ah, I wondered why all of your flesh was exposed when I stole it from you
11:42<@mcintosh>he checked ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
11:42<@jdfriedrikson>gparent: how compressive
11:42<csnxs>jdfriedrikson, give him a lick!
11:43<@jdfriedrikson>I would prefer to be in good standing with our HR department
11:43<linbot>how many licks does it take to get to the center of a mcintosh?
11:43<csnxs>lick HR!
11:43<@jdfriedrikson>( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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11:44<Eugene>It tastes just like hatred
11:45<@jdfriedrikson>mcintosh: do you taste like hatred?
11:46<csnxs>lick him and find out!
11:47<@jdfriedrikson>I don't like hatred! Too much risk involved.
11:53<csnxs>im such fast! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLka5hA2hgw
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12:04<@jdfriedrikson>I'm actually currently listening to smooth jazz
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12:06<csnxs>hmm, I just noticed audio desyncs around the very end of test chamber 18
12:06<csnxs>oh well
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12:11<@jdfriedrikson>I like the gource video
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12:24<grawity>hmm, I don't remember if I've asked this before, but
12:24<grawity>does linode deliberately ignore 2002::/16?
12:26<grawity>or does it just happen to have no routes to it for other reasons
12:29<@jdfriedrikson>mtr?
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12:31<FluffyFoxeh>Somebody rebooted my VM and ZNC didn't start automatically
12:31<grawity>jdfriedrikson: only hop that shows up is 2a01:7e00::8678:acff:fe5a:1a41 or 2a01:7e00::8678:acff:fe0d:8f41
12:31<grawity>(also yeah, that's the "6to4" prefix)
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12:32<@jdfriedrikson>that one's beyond me. afaik we aren't going NAT64
12:32<@jdfriedrikson>FluffyFoxeh: https://www.linode.com/docs/uptime/reboot-survival-guide ;)
12:32<FluffyFoxeh>thank you jdfriedrikson
12:32<grawity>it's not nat64
12:32<FluffyFoxeh>:p
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12:33<@jdfriedrikson>grawity: lol is 6to4 something different?
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12:33<grawity>it's just like HE's tunnels except more anycast
12:34<FluffyFoxeh>I should probably write a unit file for ZNC
12:34<FluffyFoxeh>systemd unit fole
12:34<grawity>so everyone else just sees a route for 2002::/16 via <something-or-other>
12:35<@jdfriedrikson>FluffyFoxeh: systemd should already have a unit
12:35<grawity>http://wiki.znc.in/Running_ZNC_as_a_system_daemon#systemd
12:35<FluffyFoxeh>jdfriedrikson: I compiled it myself, so I don't think it does
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12:37<@jdfriedrikson>FluffyFoxeh: why would you do a thing like that?
12:37<FluffyFoxeh>because debian's ZNC package was outdated
12:37<@jdfriedrikson>grawity: maybe aforster might have more insight :p
12:37<FluffyFoxeh>:p
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12:38<FluffyFoxeh>it was really easy to do
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12:39<@aforster>grawity: yeah we drop 6to4 adverts
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12:40<grawity>aww
12:40<grawity>why?
12:41<grawity>all the HE tunnels are much farther than ISP's own relay
12:44<@aforster>I'm shocked it's being used
12:44<@aforster>you'd be the first person who has noticed in the last ~two years, hah
12:45<@aforster>we can open it up, we have kind of a strict bogon policy
12:45<@aforster>in this case we included 6to4 there as one of the earlier deprecated migration techs
12:46<grawity>as in, 6to4 packets tend to arrive from many unexpected relays?
12:47<grawity>(I thought all those were registered though)
12:48<dzho>it seems kind of earlier to deprecate migration techs given how little migration has been done.
12:48<dzho>s/earlier/early/
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12:48<grawity>anyway, it's not critical to me, I'm just trying to set up some IPv6 at home that doesn't make websites think I'm from another continent
12:48<grawity>so depends on how much trouble opening it up would cause
12:50<@aforster>actually I have a much less strict filter list which allows 6to4 that I've been baking in singapore and tokyo2 for a week already
12:55<grawity>ah, nice
12:57<FluffyFoxeh>"Our administrators have detected an issue affecting the physical hardware your Linode resides on."
12:57<FluffyFoxeh>Hardware? wtf?
12:57<FluffyFoxeh>I thought this was the cloud
12:57<cbirk>its the cloud
12:57<cbirk>you have to wait til it rains to get your data
12:57<cbirk>linodes gonna make it rain on you
12:58<FluffyFoxeh>well it's snowing right now, I guess I better go collect all that in case my data is in there
12:58<cbirk>yes
12:58<cbirk>go now
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13:00<@jdfriedrikson>I'd hate to see freezing rain
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13:03<@aforster>grawity: deployed everywhere now :) check it out
13:04<grawity>\o/ it seems to have worked, thanks
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13:05<fullstop>Hi all. Any recommendations for extended validation ssl certs? We went through startcom before they were acquired and subsequently blacklisted.
13:05<FluffyFoxeh>is this like aliexpress
13:05<FluffyFoxeh>oops
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13:06<grawity>fullstop: in my general experience, DigiCert has been rather bullshit-free
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13:08<vrkansagara>hello
13:08<fullstop>grawity: how difficult is the EV process? startcom required a lot of documentation.
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13:09<fullstop>what's up with chanserv setting channel limits dynamically?
13:09<grawity>oftc doesn't have join-throttling
13:09<@jdfriedrikson>we've had a history of spamming. it's a preventative measure.
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13:09<@jdfriedrikson>not really a good one, but
13:09<fullstop>ah
13:09<@jdfriedrikson>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
13:09<grawity>so dynamic +l is the low-tech way of preventing sudden bot join floods
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13:10<fullstop>they just have to slowly join
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13:10<dand>old accounts can still pre-pay for 2 years?
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13:11<grawity>fullstop: our case is slightly different (using TCS), but the validation was quick, they looked everything up even though we're in EU
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13:12<fullstop>grawity: many thanks. the process with startcom took a few weeks, so that sounds significantly better
13:12<Eugene>fullstop - I've heard good things about sslmate in the past; never used them
13:12<grawity>fullstop: also their live-chat support is helpful
13:12<Eugene>The EV CA requirements are the origin of the paperwork, you're probably going to have to jump through similar hoops anywhere
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13:13<grawity>(though yeah, as for paperwork, it could be that they short-circuited some stuff assuming that the NREN which gave us the account already did some validation)
13:14<fullstop>right. for most hosts we just use letsencrypt, but there are a few public facing ones which EV is desired.
13:14<grawity>but overall, getting EV from DigiCert was easier than getting OV from Comodo
13:14<dwfreed>dand: if you have a non-metered account, yes
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13:33<aahad>hi
13:33<aahad>any body there
13:33<ponas>yes
13:34<aahad>ok are you client or
13:34<ponas>this is a community support channel
13:34<ponas>there are some employees here though
13:34<aahad>https://www.facebook.com/mulhidbhensa/?fref=ts
13:34<aahad>this page is run form your server
13:35<aahad>it is doing hut speeching
13:35<aahad>this there ip detail 66.228.39.226 (li289-226.members.linode.com)
13:35<ponas>I'm pretty sure that's run by facebook
13:36<aahad>y i know it run facebook but it is using your platfrom
13:36<aahad>you can see this detail 66.228.39.226 (li289-226.members.linode.com)
13:36<aahad>ok thanks alot
13:36<grawity>where did you get that IP from, though
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13:37<@nbrewer>can't wait to see that one.
13:38<FluffyFoxeh>hut speeching?
13:38<@nbrewer>hate speech
13:38<@nbrewer>i'm guessing
13:38<FluffyFoxeh>oh
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13:41<ponas>my abuse reports always go unanswered, though I guess I'm slightly naive sending them to russian and chinese ISPs :)
13:41<@jdfriedrikson>https://youtu.be/jLQFqsvwvKM
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13:43<react>there's nothing worse than hut speech
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13:45<@jleal>what about tent speech?
13:45*jleal shows himself out
13:47<dwfreed>I actually got a response back from an email to a postmaster@
13:47<@jdfriedrikson> /kickban jleal no bad jokes allowed here
13:47<@jdfriedrikson>dwfreed: were they a master of posting?
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13:48<dwfreed>nah, two of their users had been compromised
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13:48<@nbrewer>hut speech is clearly just friendly conversation about pizza hut
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13:48<@nbrewer>which afaik doesn't violate our tos
13:51<@jdfriedrikson>I'm hungry now. Thanks nbrewer, you monster.
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14:16<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Security Setup Video <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14507&p=72591#p72591>
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14:51<Andy>hello
14:51<@mcintosh>hi
14:51<DrJ>hi
14:51<Andy>I'm wondering if you can upgrade just the storage on linodes
14:51<DrJ>nope :(
14:51<Andy>disk space is a bit low compared to other resources
14:52<DrJ>linode doesn't offer resource upgrades anymore
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14:52<DrJ>they do give free increases from time to time though
14:53<Andy>They really ought to offer some packages with more varied resources
14:53<Andy>i.e. high on ram low on bandwith, high on diskspace lower on ram
14:53<Andy>etc
14:53<Andy>not everyone who needs a big hard drive needs 12 cpus
14:53<Andy>anyway
14:53<Andy>thanks
14:54<DrJ>most VPS providers do it the way linode does
14:54<DrJ>just the way it is
14:55<DrJ>I do wish we could get an increase in storage... hoping that's the next free upgrade
14:55<Andy>digital ocean for example offer storage bolt ons
14:55<Andy>so you can pick your sever power but if you need more space just add that on
14:56<DrJ>yea, I believe linode has indicated that's something they hope to offer eventually
14:56<Andy>cool
14:57<Andy>Well thank you
14:57<Andy>goodbye
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15:41<zifnab>mcintosh: be careful telling eugene 'pics or it didn't happen'
15:42<zifnab>normally there's a direct correlation between 'alcohol intake' and 'level of clothing'
15:46<csnxs>Eugene, send n00dz
15:46<csnxs>(to mcintosh)
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16:03<dwfreed>mcintosh: eg, things like this happen when drunk: http://i.imgur.com/wPvtNDk.png
16:04<dwfreed>I think I was working when that happened
16:05<MajObviousman>no, see, you have it backwards. The brief periods of sobriety (e.g. the lucid periods) are abnormal
16:16<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Windows10 <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14491&p=72593#p72593>
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16:34<Eugene>zifnab - direct inverse correlation*
16:35<Eugene>DrJ - caker has stated that Block Storage is coming
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16:39<Nivex>brace yourselves
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18:11<Q3Man>hmm... did fremont just explode?
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18:16<nate>Q3Man: Looks like some potential routing issues
18:16<nate>at least from my view of being on many IRC networks from fremont, only a few dropped
18:17<Q3Man>yeah, I had a few monitors flip/flop and a bunch of ssh connections drop
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18:49<dwfreed>Q3Man: looks like HE had some routing problems
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18:50<Q3Man>At least it was only for a minute or two. Just long enough for everyone's alerts to go off :)
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18:50<dwfreed>lasted for almost 10 minutes for me
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19:07<zifnab>So that's what happened
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19:07<me>can I install wordpress on this?
19:07<me>it is easy?
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19:28<JeremyE77>You can put scary images in children's sites. It is easy.
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20:13<media150>Hello I was just looking for some troubleshooting support. We have accidentally removed a linode that should not have been, is there any way to restore it? Any input would be much appreciated, Thank You
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20:14<Peng>media150: File a ticket immediately. They may or may not be able to help.
20:14<media150>Okay yes I filed a ticket
20:15<Peng>Good luck
20:15<media150>Thank you
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20:18<@nbrewer>media150: depending on how long you ahd the Linode, an image of it should have been taken.
20:19<@nbrewer>If that's the case, should be able to deploy the image to another Linode using this process: https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/linode-images#deploy-from-a-saved-image
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20:28<media150>Thank you, yes I gave them a call and they were able to help me restore. I appreciate it.
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21:06<Peng>I totally forgot about that!!
21:06<Peng>D:
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22:32<maav>Hello,
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22:35<maav>can some help me how to get some unique IP's? i just created a server address and don't know what to do next. surely I'm very new to this
22:35<Woet>maav: why do you need them?
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22:36<Peng>You have some already?
22:36<maav>I have a bunch of sites trying to attach in my server in linode
22:37<Woet>thats okay, you can run them all under the same IP.
22:39<maav>But I required to do so.. any idea how to get some unique IP's for each site?
22:39<Woet>required to do so by who?
22:39<Woet>and for what reason?
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22:46<arlen>now we'll never know:(
22:46<Woet>more IPv4 waste avoided
22:46<Woet>i should get a medal
22:47<Eliz>lol,
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22:51<arlen>Sir Woet, Champion of the Internet
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22:56<Peng>As a reward, here's a /48 blessed by Jon Postel.
22:58<maav>I'm sorry internet cutoff, can someone help me how or where can I get some unique ip's for my sites?
22:58<Peng>arlen!
22:59<Woet>[04:39:18] <maav> But I required to do so.. any idea how to get some unique IP's for each site?
22:59<Woet>[04:39:28] <Woet> required to do so by who?
22:59<Woet>[04:39:34] <Woet> and for what reason?
22:59<Woet>maav: ^
23:00<arlen>Peng!
23:01<maav>so I can setup them a different reverse dns i guess?
23:02<Woet>maav: for what reason?
23:02<Ikaros>That unfortunately doesn't really work as justification.
23:04<maav>it just required to us, to create a multiple sites in one server but need to has different ip's (school purpose)
23:04<arlen>!ips
23:04<linbot>Each Linode comes with 1 public IPv4 address and 1 public IPv6 address. Additional IPv4 addresses are $ 1 per month, and require technical justification. A /64 or /56 of IPv6 can be routed to your Linode at no charge.
23:05<Woet>maav: required to do so by who?
23:05<Woet>maav: and for what reason?
23:05<arlen>open a ticket and ask, they'll most likely say no
23:05<Ikaros>Technical justification is required. You will most likely be told this no matter which hosting company you go to.
23:05<Ikaros>And most likely they'll tell you no
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23:07<Ikaros>Webhosting multiple sites is a flat-out no - because you can do this in pretty much any webserver using name-based virtual hosting, which lets you host multiple unique sites on the same IP address
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23:28<kyhwana>hahaha
23:29<kyhwana>welp, hopefully they don't get that
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