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00:43<Eugene>staticsafe - ur +g is set br0
00:44<staticsafe>Eugene: try now
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01:50<Eugene>Every night I'm Linodin'
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02:16<linbot>New news from status: Network Connectivity Between London and Singapore <>
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03:58<criis>I'm just wondering why my site address load the index.php instead of wordpress admin-config, I just follow all the guides in 'How to Install and Configure WordPress'. It is working before in 1 site, but by the time I was trying to create multiple sites in my server things like this happen. Did if delete or accidentally modify something? anyone can help me about this? I can't really move forward..
03:59<criis>see here
04:00<millisa>that looks like you aren't processing php. just like earlier.
04:02<criis>Hi again millisa, I really don't know what to do..troubleshooting my issue also beyond in linode support
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04:15<millisa>ok, just for you, i followed the getting started doc and the doc on a brand new linode.
04:15<millisa>at the end of that process, it gives you an apache2 server with php and it works.
04:16<millisa>If you run this: ls -aslht /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*php*
04:17<millisa>and you don't see the php5.conf and php5.load files, then you have missed part of that install. or removed it
04:17<millisa>there should be a couple dozen files in that dir by default
04:19<millisa>If you run: dpkg-query -l |grep php
04:19<millisa>it should show you your installed packages related to php. one of them should be libapache2-mod-php5
04:19<millisa>if that is missing, apache isn't going to have the files
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04:24<criis>Yep rc libapache2-mod-php5 exist when I run the code you've said
04:24<millisa>but you have no files in the /etc/apache2/mods-available dir?
04:28<criis>the php5.conf was there except php5.load
04:28<millisa>php5.conf is there but php5.load is not?
04:29<millisa>do you know how the php5.load got removed?
04:30<criis>I have no idea
04:30<millisa>ah well, someone would needed to have done that.
04:30<millisa>well, normally that php5.load file only tains one line:
04:30<millisa>LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/
04:30<millisa>that's it
04:30<millisa>make a file and put that in it
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04:35<millisa>once you've made the file, try: a2query -m php5
04:35<millisa>see if it says something other than 'No module matches php5' now.
04:38<Guest2194>Hi Guys, ive a short question perhaps you can help me with: Is it possible to do a private network over different data centers without beeing charged for the traffic ? Within a data center i ve read its possible with right IP ... But our problem is that we need 3 or more location over the world. (We are using digital ocean and they got the same problem)
04:38<Peng>Guest2194: No. :X
04:38<Guest2194>:-( thx
04:39<criis>Yes that was the only message it response
04:41<millisa>after you made the missing php5.load file with the line provided above, the a2query -m php5 still says that message about No modules match?
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04:44<rick111>can you feel it, coming in the air
04:44<millisa>well, I give up. There's a core piece of info missing somewhere and I'm not finding it. You should start a new linode, following the instructions, get php and such working there, and then once it is working, migrate your data and site to it.
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04:45<millisa>the 5 minutes between question/aswer isn't much fun either.
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04:47<criis>I'm sorry millisa and thank you for your help I appreciate it very much, I might start a new linode if that's the case ;)
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05:23<rick111>tonight, my lord
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11:07<Eugene>Every day I'm Linodin'
11:08<@jdfriedrikson>Eugene: do you have some sort of cron job set up?
11:08<Eugene>I suppose an alarm clock is a type of cron job
11:09<@jdfriedrikson>wait, is this seriously your first thought when you wake up? how dedicated.
11:09<Eugene>No, first I take a piss and walk the dog
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11:10<root_>cd desktop
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11:14<rick111>Eugene: what does your limodin' consist of?
11:14<rick111>i type like a crab
11:15<Eugene>!dig ns
11:15<linbot>Eugene: [dig] status: NXDOMAIN | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION . 85341 IN SOA 2017020201 1800 900 604800 86400
11:15<Eugene>Well that was slightly more useless than I expected
11:16<linbot>New news from forum: Email/SMTP Related Forum • DKIM Postfix configuration- opendkim-testkey returns unknown hash error <>
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11:18<Peng>!dig ns
11:18<linbot>Peng: [dig] status: NOERROR | ;; ANSWER SECTION: 3579 IN NS | ;; AUTHORITY SECTION
11:18<Peng>Eugene: ^
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11:19<Eugene>Well the point is: I'm talking to you through a Linode.
11:22<dwfreed>!dns6 ns
11:22<dwfreed>that's more useful
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13:39<fantasymashups>Can the longview mysql monitor actually show what the slow queries are or what the majority of queries are? which tables are hit etc
13:39<fantasymashups>seems like it has everything I need stat wise except what the actual tables being hit are
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13:50<JeremyE77>if I remember right I doesn't drill down to the details. Jut that there are slow queries.
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14:53<xavwww>hi jd
14:54<@jdfriedrikson>hi xavwww
14:54<xavwww>a bit of a strange apache / security question
14:55<xavwww>I'm setting up an integration between woocommerce (wordpress plugin) and xero (accounting software). They use OAuth for authentication
14:55<xavwww>the thing that concerns me is their doc suggests placing the private key and csr in a publicly visible folder
14:55<@jdfriedrikson>you probably shouldn't do that then
14:56<xavwww>that's what I thought. I don't know if there are real security implications with it, but it sounds a little strange
14:56<@jdfriedrikson>why don't you test it and see if it's publicl/y accessible?
14:57<@jdfriedrikson>it's actually publicly*
14:57<xavwww>well it is
14:57<xavwww>as it's just a file in a folder under the root of the www website
14:57<xavwww>unless I do some .htaccess or something
14:58<@jdfriedrikson>sounds like pretty terrible docs then
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15:03<@jdfriedrikson>I mean, SSL keys are more related to the webserver than the actual application itself
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15:04<@jdfriedrikson>I'm pretty sure, you can just uses a different/better guide for the webserver part and it will work just fine
15:04<philhassey>Hi - I'm about to clone a Linode. It's one that just runs a game and does not write anything but logs to disk. Do I need to shut it down?
15:05<@jdfriedrikson>philhassey: what kind of game? I can't imagine that a gameserver isn't writing more than logs?
15:06<philhassey>It's one I wrote, so ... it really isn't writing anything but logs. (The persistent data is stored on a separate mysql linode.)
15:07<philhassey>The logs are the only thing being written to it's own disk.
15:07<@jdfriedrikson>yeah it'll be fine then
15:08<philhassey>Cool. So the Clone process does not automatically shut my original linode down then?
15:08<@jdfriedrikson>lsof | grep -e "[[:digit:]]\+w"
15:08<@jdfriedrikson>this should show any other processes that are writing
15:09<@jdfriedrikson>the clone won't shut down the original linode
15:09<@jdfriedrikson>it'll take a snapshot of your disk and migrate that to a different host to run the new Linode with
15:09<philhassey>Cool thanks.
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15:32<trippeh>seems I made BINDs inline dnssec signer thingy mad and it retaliated by dumping a crapton of AXFRs on Linode
15:32<trippeh>oh well
15:33<Knofte>trippeh: "shit happens"
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15:58<philhassey>jdfriedrikson Got it done a while ago, but it went super smoothly. Thanks for the help / tips!
15:58<philhassey>A lot easier than restoring from a backup then having to rename / resize everything.
15:59<@jdfriedrikson>philhassey: heh. no prob. I do my best to know my stuff.
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17:02<bylzz>what could it be that blocks my disk resize, if I boot the machine 1.7gb is used on the disk but it refuses to re-size to 2048 so I can create an image from it
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17:02<csnxs>all hail mcintosh o/
17:03<dwfreed>bylzz: ext3/4's calculation of minimum resize size can be off sometimes
17:03<dwfreed>bylzz: however, imaging your disk doesn't depend on its size, it depends on its usage
17:04<bylzz>dwfreed: this thing must be off in both senses then
17:04<dwfreed>so you can image it no matter its size, just as long as its usage is 2 GB or less
17:04<bylzz>the usage is 1.7gb
17:04*Eugene adds "pfsense" to the list of crazy shit he has running on Linode
17:04<bylzz>and I get an error both if i try to resize and/or create image
17:04<dwfreed>did it used to be a *really* big disk?
17:05<dwfreed>like >150 GB?
17:05<bylzz>if really big is like 45gb
17:05<dwfreed>try shrinking it to what the error says is minimum size
17:06<dwfreed>the shrink will rearrange some things and usually let you shrink it smaller (or allow the imagize to work)
17:06<bylzz>I have been taking it down a couple of times
17:06<bylzz>ill try and see if i can get closer
17:06<bylzz>oh yea
17:06<bylzz>2900mb now
17:06<bylzz>tried 2800 earlier and hit an error
17:06<bylzz>yea still error when i try to go from 2900 -> 2800
17:07<@jdfriedrikson>dwfreed: you're actually wrong on this
17:07<@jdfriedrikson>the resize is by blocks, not by actual file size
17:07<bylzz>im going to boot it up again and see
17:07<@jdfriedrikson>when the resize fails, it should give you a number
17:07<dwfreed>I'm well aware of this
17:08<bylzz>fs_resize: resize failed resize2fs 1.42.13 (17-May-2015) /vbin/bin/resize2fs: New size smaller than minimum (733725)
17:08<dwfreed>I didn't say file size anywhere
17:08<@jdfriedrikson>that_num * 4 / 1024 = amount in MB to resize to
17:08<dwfreed>2866 would fail
17:08<@jdfriedrikson>I'm wrong :D
17:09<dwfreed>also iirc, it rounds up to a multiple of 4 MB, so it'll secretly be 2870
17:09<@jdfriedrikson>hasn't happened to me
17:09<@jdfriedrikson>always been the ceiling of whatever comes out of the maths
17:10<bylzz>well now I have it at 2867mb should it magically align back so I can create an image of it then :)
17:10<dwfreed>jdfriedrikson: I'm talking about on the host, not in the DB
17:11<dwfreed>which is why I said "secretly"
17:11<@jdfriedrikson>I'm just going to stop trying
17:12<@jdfriedrikson>you've freed me from my pedantic nature
17:12<@jdfriedrikson>(wrongly pedantic)
17:13<bylzz>well, it didnt make a difference.. anything else I can do to fix this?
17:14<dwfreed>I realized that by default, ext* hides things from df
17:14<dwfreed>let me find the flag that changes that, sec
17:15<@jdfriedrikson>it's been a really long day
17:15<@jdfriedrikson>what exactly is the issue here so I can get it right?
17:15<bylzz>I'm trying to create an image from a system and 'df' says 1.7gb is used on the filesystem but creating image says Size of disk (2868MB) is larger than the per-image limit of 2048MB.
17:16<@jdfriedrikson>yeah. that's defragmentation
17:16<bylzz>possible to fix?
17:16<millisa>jdfriedrikson: it's supposed to be a long day!
17:16<@jdfriedrikson>copy everything into a new filesystem
17:16<dwfreed>jdfriedrikson: fragmentation wouldn't cause that
17:16<@jdfriedrikson>dwfreed: why not?
17:17<bylzz>like creating an empty disk of 2048mb and copy with rescue shell to it?
17:17<dwfreed>because it just affects placement of blocks, not count of used
17:17<@jdfriedrikson>dwfreed: it's got to do with the inodes
17:17<dwfreed>bylzz: after booting, do mount -o remount,minixdf /, then do 'df /' and paste the results for me
17:18<bylzz>Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
17:18<bylzz>/dev/root 2935808 1773204 999444 64% /
17:18<@jdfriedrikson>bylzz: to copy, just "tar -pcf - -C /old . | tar -pxf - -C /new"
17:18<@jdfriedrikson>or something to the effect of that
17:18<bylzz>thanks, yea I get it
17:19<dwfreed>great way to lose xattrs and posix acls
17:19<@jdfriedrikson>rsync -axHAX /old /new also works for xattrs and acls
17:19<bylzz>minixdf flag
17:19<bylzz>have to look it up
17:19<dwfreed>bylzz: changes statfs to include filesystem overhead in numbers
17:20<dwfreed>bylzz: the default is bsddf
17:20<dwfreed>you can remount with bsddf and compare :)
17:20<bylzz>oh, didnt know that
17:20<bylzz>heh, its actually a difference
17:24<Eugene>Does anybody know if it matters what baud speed is used for the "serial" connection inside of a Linode? pfsense default is 115200 and that seems to be fine
17:25<@jdfriedrikson>Eugene: you can probably leave it out
17:25<@jdfriedrikson>where are you putting it into?
17:25<Eugene>the pfsense WebUI dropdown :-p
17:25<Eugene>I'm nuts, I know
17:26<@jdfriedrikson>it actually should be whatever KVM is
17:26<@jdfriedrikson>for their -serial flag
17:26<Eugene>Is that a support ticket question?
17:26<Eugene>I remember my Winode never cared about the baud rate for Lish, it just "worked".... and so did this
17:27<@jdfriedrikson>115200 should work
17:27<Eugene>Yup, works fine
17:27<Eugene>Just curious if it mattered to anything
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17:27<Eugene>Eg, will it block I/O or something dumb
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17:27<Eugene>My home firewall boots super slow(systemd!) if you have the serial port less than 19200
17:27<@jdfriedrikson>it says 19200 in our docs, though I've seen 115200 work fine iirc
17:28<Eugene>Cool. I can confirm 115200 as working here, too
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17:29<@jdfriedrikson>I don't think we change it on our end so the default should be good
17:29<@jdfriedrikson>reading up on minixdf and bsddf
17:30<Peng>what happens if you type real fast :O
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17:31<@jdfriedrikson>now that I'm passed being irritated about dwfreed outclassing me, I can actually learn something new :p
17:31<@jdfriedrikson>Peng: serial consoles have a bandwidth too. not sure if you could surpass it though
17:31<@jdfriedrikson>I guess 100WPM might be 100b/s
17:31<@jdfriedrikson>but serial consoles can transfer at a rate of KB
17:32<@jdfriedrikson>so... type *really* really fast
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17:34<Peng>jdfriedrikson: :P
17:35<Eugene>I've definitely had to wait on the console to accept large router config dumps
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17:35<Eugene>MB+ paste
17:36<dwfreed>I know somebody who accidentally pasted a wikipedia article into a router once
17:36<dwfreed>it rebooted
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17:37<@jdfriedrikson>dwfreed: it wasn't even one with a router config in it? :p
17:37<dwfreed>it might have had bits, but it certainly didn't have the copy running-config startup-config command in it
17:38<@jdfriedrikson>why did they even have a wikipedia article in their clipboard anyway?
17:38<bylzz>copying the disk over to a new disk worked like a charm, got my image now :)
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17:39<@jdfriedrikson>bylzz: \o/
17:40<dwfreed>I don't exactly recall
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17:41<@jdfriedrikson>dwfreed: just curious, what's your explanation for the different in size?
17:42<@jdfriedrikson>I've seen it happen a lot with Gentoo
17:42<@jdfriedrikson>figured out that it was related to a bunch of tiny files and inode size
17:42<dwfreed>inode size is already subtracted from available space
17:43<@jdfriedrikson>when I increased the amount of inodes / lowered the size it compacted a little more nicely
17:43<@jdfriedrikson>dwfreed: but then why does reformatting work?
17:43<dwfreed>I'd have to spend a lot of time reading over the ext4 on-disk format
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17:43<@jdfriedrikson>it's a really difficult issue to search for :/
17:44<@mcintosh>csnxs: <3
17:44<millisa>(for fun, I tried doing an image on a linode with ~1.4GB used and hit the same issue just now)
17:44<dwfreed>linbot: list Herald
17:44<linbot>dwfreed: add, change, default, get, and remove
17:44<dwfreed>oh hey, that is still loaded
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17:46<linbot>all hail mcintosh o/
17:46<@jdfriedrikson>that's not suspicious
17:46<dwfreed>it wasn't him
17:46<dwfreed>(I would know)
17:46<@jdfriedrikson> /kick linbot mcintosh
17:46<@mcintosh>lololol <3
17:46<dwfreed>that kicks linbot with the reason "mcintosh"
17:47<@jdfriedrikson>dwfreed: don't bring my joke down, man
17:47<dwfreed>make a better joke
17:47<@jdfriedrikson> /kick dwfreed downer
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17:48<@jdfriedrikson>not really within my facilities after a mind-numbing day of work <3
17:49<dwfreed>/exec screen -d irssi
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18:12<ericoc>jdfriedrikson: dwfreed: it was "" <~ i pasted that in to a router and it rebooted :<
18:13<ericoc>just pasting the url caused reboot :\ the other router took over though, working failover is nice
18:14<dwfreed>oh, I thought it was the whole article
18:14<ericoc>nah hahaha
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18:53<William__>Hello. Does anybody know what OS is used as the hypervisor for KVM-based Linodes? Does it matter if I am setting up a KVM instance to simulate a VPS for development and testing?
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18:59<dwfreed>William__: it's irrelevant
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19:04<William__>So the guest should behave pretty much the same regardless of the host OS?
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19:27<FluffyFoxeh>KVM is part of the kernel
19:30<dwfreed>FluffyFoxeh: illumos also implements KVM
19:30<FluffyFoxeh>oh, I wasn't aware
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19:31<dwfreed>I believe from the guest's perspective, it is identical to Linux KVM
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21:07<Eugene>Guests see qemu and whatever drivers. Sometimes this is indiciative("Red Hat Virtual SCSI device"), but usually generic.
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21:21<maav>Hi there!
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21:22<maav>can anyone help me on how to create multiple wordpress site in my linode server?
21:23<maav>my 1st site was working okay, but the second time I do the same process it wouldn't load..
21:23<Cromulent>maav: did you create a new virtual hosts file for the new wordpress blog?
21:24<Cromulent>and then put it in sites-enabled?
21:24<Cromulent>well sym-link it I mean
21:24<Cromulent>its pretty easy just put the wordpress blog in a new folder, make a new virtual hosts file and enable it in apache and it should work
21:25<Cromulent>I certainly didn't do anything different when I installed my second wordpress blog
21:25<maav>I have them separate folder in /var/www/html site1 site2
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21:26<Cromulent>strange that is how I have set them up as well
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21:26<Cromulent>and it works perfectly
21:27<Cromulent>the only thing I can think of is that you have made a mistake in the apache virtual host file or that you haven't set up DNS for the new domain properly
21:28<maav>I should also include the new site in /etc/hosts right?
21:29<Cromulent>you just need a virtual host file in apache
21:30<maav>Does your virtual host compile in 1 default.conf?
21:32<Cromulent>no separate files for each domain
21:32<Cromulent>I didn't touch default.conf at all
21:34<maav>so that 000-default.conf is still running together with the ones you added? leme try
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22:03<maav>Hi there, can anyone send me a link or help me on how to create multiple wordpress site in linode server
22:06<mmustac>is this pennnsylvanio?
22:07<nate>(only two n's in penn)
22:07<nate>also as someone in pennsylvania I don't get it
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22:09<Cromulent>maav: are you sure you have set up apache correctly? I've already said what you need to do but if not read this and this
22:10<Cromulent>assuming you are using ubuntu 16.04 but it is pretty similar for most linux distros
22:11<maav>I forgot to tell im using 14.04 ubuntu
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22:18<Cromulent>ok use this then
22:18<Cromulent>installing wordpress is the same on both
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22:50<mmustac>y0 sclemens, whats up, talk to me?
22:53<mmustac>im going to get sclemens to watch anime if its the last thinkg in the world I do before I an hero
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22:56<mmustac>sclemens: first leson is that rei is shit. YOu need to get with asuka if you kinda a above average pleb, but a real wizard knows misasto is by far the one trye waifu
22:56<FluffyFoxeh>is mmustac drunk
22:57<mmustac>god no, im streait edge
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22:57<FluffyFoxeh>oh :p
22:58<mmustac>have you ever shared a morning bath beer with a god like 2d grill? no, well then get with misato u skurub
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22:58<arlen>what's your favorite anime?
22:59<mmustac>sword art online.........brwhahahahhahahahahahahah
22:59<FluffyFoxeh>SAO is very divisive. I liked it though
22:59<mmustac>sorry coudlnt keep a strait face
22:59<mmustac>eva obviously
22:59<mmustac>FLCL comes close second
23:00<FluffyFoxeh>have you seen Steins;Gate
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23:00<mmustac>yes, its god tier
23:00<arlen>I like sao :(
23:00<FluffyFoxeh>Steins Gate is my favourite
23:01<mmustac>arlen, I respecr you for you tech abil, but sorry SaO is garbage and you have shit taste
23:02<arlen>i like fma and aot too
23:02<mmustac>ok thats a bit redeeming
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23:03<FluffyFoxeh>Re Zero was quite good
23:03<mmustac>aot just barely....cut out 50% of th filler jank and you got s good anime
23:03<arlen>what's a really good one I should watch?
23:03<arlen>preferably no subtitles cause I multitask too much
23:03<arlen>and don't speak Japanese
23:03<mmustac>im not gonna bpther
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23:04<FluffyFoxeh>dubs are bad mkay
23:04<arlen>I'm bad
23:04<mmustac>okok... panty and stockey had a good dub, and did Milk Chan and FLCL
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23:04<mmustac>other than that, kill yourself
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23:05<mmustac>dude i love you arlen, youve bee cool in here the whole time I was an employee, but you gotta get with the subs mang
23:06<mmustac>youll never powerup to full wizard
23:08<FluffyFoxeh>what about full lizard
23:08<mmustac>plz dont mention lizard...i mean its not my job to combat them anymore, but the name still triggers me
23:09<mmustac>sclemens: Pleae Watch Gurren Laggen With me!!!! I think it will help Linode satification stats!
23:14<mmustac>avelardi: stop hackign at me you insider f44ag0r
23:15<mmustac>i run windows 10 with all NSA patches becaue I like it. stop spying on my furaffinity browsing
23:17<mmustac>yeah I like fat foxes and sonic x sally; this is murica. get a court order or leave me alone
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23:21<mmustac>also, wall.
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23:22<FluffyFoxeh>that escalated quickly
23:23<mmustac>nah i was wall, i think like the triggereing potention of it
23:26<mmustac>i guess I should stop now before i get banned... I actually love Linode. i just like to stir shit up and shitpost at night. Justto be clear I fully support Linode. Major props to the support, ops and baackup system. Luv u all. Vote Pence Palin in 2024 peace.
23:26<@mbeach>o/ mmustac
23:27<mmustac>mwah mike, miss ya
23:27<@mbeach>Miss you too man :)
23:33<mmustac>oh wait one final thing. i cant login to my linode with the creds I have for manager. IM CALLING CAKER
23:33<FluffyFoxeh>at home?
23:34<mmustac>yes, ive cased his house
23:34<mmustac>im gonna whisper in his ear as her is asleep
23:40<mmustac>there was this time I was ina meeting with caker and I passed the time pretendng i twas ina sketch eith eric wareheim. it work.
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23:42<FluffyFoxeh>tim and eric <3
23:42<mmustac>long ass time ago I played in a band shortuly with eric.
23:43<mmustac>who whould of knew.
23:43<mmustac>also peed direrectl next to Tim in a bathroom at the Franklin Institute......idk mang
23:45<mmustac>life is weird..but mostly crushing.
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