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00:46<Eugene>Every night I'm linodin
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01:16<nzgeoff>is it an expensive enough process to sync linode's dns that it can only be done every 15 minutes? will we ever see 5 or even 1 minute updates?
01:17<maav>Hi there, why is my wp-config.php every line has ^M makes me stuck in apache2 ubuntu default page..Can't move forward in wopress config someone help
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01:18<Eugene>Millions+ of zones? Yeah, that's no joke. Run your own NSes if you want real-time DNS. Linode has lots of availability locations
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01:18<Eugene>Maav - look up dos2unix and line endings
01:19<maav>How could I get there? I'm really new into this
01:20<nzgeoff>yeah not complaining, just saying everything at linode is constantly improving and i wondered what would prevent that change
01:20<Eugene>Google for those subjects. Its a file encoding thing, relating to windows and Linux file types
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01:21<Cromulent>nzgeoff: you can use some third party DNS if you like - I've used Amazon Route 53 in the past - worked really well - at the moment I use DOs DNS because they update instantly
01:21<Eugene>Nzgeoff - its an ops decision. linode has a lot of customers
01:22<nzgeoff>does route 53 have a good UI now?
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01:22<Cromulent>but then again I still have a cheap $5 DO VPS running a couple of static HTML blog sites
01:22<Eugene>Its an API, not a guilty. That's how aws works
01:22<Eugene>Not a GUI. thanks auto correct
01:22<Cromulent>nzgeoff: I haven't used Route 53 in a couple of years - I found the web interface OK
01:23<Cromulent>Eugene: route 53 does have a GUI you can set it all up via the web GUI no need to touch the API if you don't want to
01:23<Eugene>Its a crappy GUI
01:23<Cromulent>eh it was acceptable
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01:32<Peng>it's a crappy API :P
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02:09<maav>Hi there, need help i'm stuck in apache2 ubuntu default page I already install the wordpress but something isn't right i open my index.php and seen that the text was is plain(not in red or purple text) same with the wp-config.php i also noticed that every row has ^M
02:09<maav>does validating php.ini affect this?
02:15<retro|blah>Um, how did you 'install the wordpress'?
02:17<maav>i follow this link https://www.linode.com/docs/websites/cms/how-to-install-and-configure-wordpress
02:22<retro|blah>OK. I don't understand what you mean by "i open my index.php and seen that the text was is plain(not in red or purple text)". What do you mean by opening index.php?
02:26<maav>bu running vi index.php or vi wp-config.php the text suppose to be in color red or purple right? but in my scenario it is plain white text.
02:26<maav>by*
02:27<retro|blah>Not necessarily, that may depend on what flavor of vi is being used, what settings are configured for that flavor of vi, etc.
02:27<retro|blah>If you try "vim index.php" does it show something closer to what you expect?
02:31<retro|blah>As for the ^M's, my question there is, how were the WordPress files downloaded onto your Linode?
02:33<maav>I just follow everything in the guide from hosting to installing wordpress
02:35<maav>I have also made a few changes in apache2.conf, my.cnf and php.ini you know just following all the steps
02:35<retro|blah>OK. Well, I'm not able to reproduce either symptom that you're describing as far as the index.php displaying unusually in your editor.
02:37<retro|blah>That page gives the following method of getting the wordpress files: "sudo wget http://wordpress.org/latest.tar.gz" I grabbed that URL and untarred it, and as far as I can see that tarball's copy of index.php does not display ^M's when I open it in vim.
02:39<maav>I'm sorry, the only one has ^M for every row is in wp-config.php
02:40<retro|blah>OK. Where did wp-config.php come from?
02:41<maav>I copied from wp-config-sample.php
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02:41<maav>they are both in same directory /public_html/
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02:42<retro|blah>Interesting. The copy of wp-config-sample.php in the traball I fetched from that wordpress URL does not display ^M's when I open it in vim.
02:45<retro|blah>Also you mention "i'm stuck in apache2 ubuntu default page". One of the things that page assumes you've done is that you've set up and configured a LAMP stack or similar. This is the second bullet point under the "Before You Begin" section. You may want to review that part.
02:46<maav>Ooh thank you very much, but yes still stuck on that
02:59<linbot>New news from forum: General Discussion • Craft CMS Setup <https://forum.linode.com/viewtopic.php?t=14515&p=72652#p72652>
03:08<Cromulent>maav: I linked you a guide for setting up LAMP earlier
03:26*dcraig links Cromulent
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03:36<rick111>the year of the crumb
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03:40<mark>Hi, I have changed the A record IP in the DNS Manager, how can I make it active faster?
03:42<dcraig>ok, mark
03:42<dcraig>there's nothing you can do now
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03:43<dcraig>but for the future, you could go to the "SOA Records" section
03:43<dcraig>find the Settings link
03:43<dcraig>and change the Default TTL to something short
03:43<dcraig>like an hour
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03:44<mark>okay, if I change it now.. does it still work?
03:44<mark>I meant change the TTL
03:45<dcraig>it would work for anyone who is requesting the IP address for the first time
03:46<mark>I get it
03:46<mark>thanks for the help
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03:48<rick111>crispy duck and pancakes
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03:48<rick111>you just can't go wrong with that combination
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04:39<duongphuong>hi
04:40<duongphuong>can you help my
04:40<arlen>!ask
04:40<linbot>If you have a question, feel free to just ask it -- someone's always willing to help. If you don't get a response right away, be patient! You may want to read http://alexfornuto.com/how-to-ask-for-help-on-irc/
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04:41<duongphuong>I just created a new account but was pending status
04:41<arlen>ok
04:41<arlen>they'll contact you shortly if they need more information to verify your account
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04:42<arlen>could also email support@linode.com or call them
04:43<duongphuong>about how long
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04:44<arlen>no set time, but shouldn't take more than 24 hours
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04:44<arlen>once your account is verified you can instantly create Linode's
04:44<@jchun>From what I've seen, we usually get to them within the hour. That being said, it definitely depends on how busy we are.
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05:06<duongphuong>hello
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05:07<duongphuong>to create new vps, but I do not ever get into ssh
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06:44<nzgeoff>argh ive been setting up a replacement server to do a zero downtime ip swap with and just went to put it live to find out only the ipv4 ip can be swapped
06:51<arlen>yay new api!
06:51<arlen>oh whoops
06:51<arlen>wrong company ><
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08:34<mrsu>I have questions about linode NodeBalancers performance, does it poor performance than original access?
08:37<Meyer_>mrsu: I am not sure I understand your question?
08:38<mrsu>i just practice follow the document "https://www.linode.com/docs/platform/nodebalancer/getting-started-with-nodebalancers", after set it up, i found NodeBalancers is poor performance.
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08:42<mrsu>NodeBalancers ip: 96.126.99.71, Node 1 public ip: 45.79.96.55, node 2 public ip: 45.79.66.124, why NodeBalancers access is poor performance(50% performance) than my public ip access?
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08:44<mrsu>public ip ab test: ab -c 1000 -n 10000 http://45.79.96.55/ ==> result: 1410.19 [#/sec], but NodeBalancers ip ab test: ab -c 1000 -n 10000 http://96.126.99.71/ ==> result: 532.10 [#/sec]
08:44<linbot>New news from status: Emergency Maintenance : Core Router failure in Shinagawa (Tokyo 2) Datacenter <https://status.linode.com/incidents/vdqv0hb1hf77>
08:47<mrsu>Is any lindoe customer support here?
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08:55<mrsu>NodeBalancers ip access is 50% slower than public ip access, why?
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09:00<Meyer_>mrsu: I am not affiliated to Linode but I have done some testing with nodebalancers
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09:00<Meyer_>mrsu: Nodebalancers are not so very performant.
09:01<Meyer_>mrsu: The numbers you are seeing seem to be around what I've seen. So, if you need to process many requests per second then a nodebalancer might not be a good fit for you
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09:01<Meyer_>mrsu: If you are expecting a couple of hundred requests per second they seem to be fine (as long as it's not https). More than that I would roll my own load balancer
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09:02<Meyer_>mrsu: You could use multiple loadbalancers if you want more performance
09:03<Meyer_>mrsu: i mean multiple nodebalancers
09:03<Meyer_>mrsu: say 4 of them. And just point your dns entries to all 4 and let dns round robin balance the load between the nodebalancers
09:04<mrsu>Meyer_: multiple nodebalancers wiht many nodes?
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09:05<mrsu>ok, i try multiple nodebalancers now and will test the performance.
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09:06<charlodarojka>hello
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09:08<mrsu>If multiple nodebalancers performance is also poor, that means linode nodebalancers is only ip failure?
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09:12<MajObviousman>it means that linode nodebalancers are not suited to your needs, not specifically a failure
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09:21<charlodarojka>how much web traffic can linode 2gb plan handle per day
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09:27<charlodarojka>how much web traffic can linode 2gb plan handle per day
09:27<charlodarojka>help me plz
09:27<arlen>potato amounts
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09:27<charlodarojka>how much web traffic can linode 2gb plan handle per day
09:28<arlen>about 20 potatoes
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09:28<charlodarojka>is anyone here using linode hosting
09:28<arlen>yes
09:28<charlodarojka>which plan
09:29<arlen>all of them
09:29*charlodarojka slaps arlen around a bit with a large fishbot
09:29<arlen>rude
09:30<charlodarojka>which plan are you using arlen
09:30<charlodarojka>its serious
09:30<charlodarojka>guys
09:30<arlen>i already told you
09:30<charlodarojka>anyone else
09:31<charlodarojka>arlen your answer did'nt helped me
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09:31<arlen>there's no way to answer your question. only you will be able to decide if the plan is adequate or if you need to upgrade
09:33<arlen>so I would recommend you calm down with the fish abuse and do some testing with a server.
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09:33<charlodarojka>sandeep bhai
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09:33<sandeep>hi
09:34<charlodarojka>help karega sandeep
09:34<sandeep>dunno
09:35<charlodarojka>tu ne linode hosting use ki hai kya
09:35<sandeep>you're better off asking in english so anyone can answer
09:35<charlodarojka>bhai terko puch ra hu
09:36<charlodarojka>english is not first language
09:36<Meyer_>charlodarojka: It is hard to answer your question. It can be from very little to very much depending on what kind of site you are running
09:36<charlodarojka>php site
09:37<charlodarojka>php with sql
09:37<ponas>it still depends
09:37<Meyer_>charlodarojka: What kind of site? Coded in any specific framework? Do you use much caching?
09:38<charlodarojka>no framework but the site use caching
09:38<Meyer_>charlodarojka: what kind of caching?
09:39<Meyer_>charlodarojka: Also, are you planning on running Apache? Nginx?
09:39<charlodarojka>cachingoutput
09:39<charlodarojka>apach
09:39<charlodarojka>apache
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09:40<Meyer_>charlodarojka: Apache with keepalives disabled and a efficent site that can be cached well will probably work quite OK on a 2GB Linode
09:40<Meyer_>charlodarojka: how much is hard to say as it depends a lot on your specific usecase
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09:41<Meyer_>charlodarojka: Linodes are easy to upgrade to larger ones if needed so best advice is to try it out on a 2GB and if its too little upgrade
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09:42<charlodarojka>ankush bhai
09:42<Ankush>Hey guys, We are in the process of migrating our servers from Digital Ocean to Linode.
09:42<Ankush>HAAN BHAI
09:42<Ankush>MY question is this:
09:43<charlodarojka>bol bhai
09:43<Ankush>I am aware that Linode provides a Hardware load balancer. I want to know that if the load balancer was to receive say 10000 req per second , would it break? I mean, currently we are running a Software load balancer but then we configure it according to the amount of requests that we receive.
09:44<Meyer_>Ankush: It would probably break
09:45<Ankush>How can I set it up in a way that it can handle peak traffic? We are working in ad tech so our usual req per seconds are 1000-2000. At peaks, we get around 10k-12k for half hour duration or so
09:45<charlodarojka>ankush bhai aisa kya kaam kar ra hai 1000 req per second
09:46<Meyer_>Ankush: Either run many nodebalancers or run separate linodes as loadbalancers yourself
09:46<ponas>dns round robin could help
09:46<Ankush>Arey bhai requirements hi aise aati hai tujhe kya bataun.
09:46<Ankush>hmm
09:46<Ankush>Hang on guys.
09:46<Meyer_>Ankush: I generally run dedicated loadbalancers on linodes and depending on the amount of traffic I choose the appropriate size of linode
09:46<charlodarojka>linode node balancer will work for you
09:47<sandeep>depending on your traffic, a linode dedicated to loadbalancing can do better than nodebalancer
09:48<charlodarojka>ankush linode nodebalancer chalega nai dhaudega tension mat le
09:48<Ankush>Guys, if I were to set up multiple Node balancers, how would I do that?
09:49<Ankush>currently we are running two HaProxy's on Digital Ocean. But if I were to use a Node balancer, how would I allocate multiple node balancers to one IP
09:49<Ankush>Bhaijaan, kahan se hain aap ?
09:49<sandeep>you can't. there would be two IPs
09:49<charlodarojka>mumbai se bhai
09:49<charlodarojka>tu kaha
09:49<Ankush>Bhai delhi se , yahan kaise aana hua ?
09:50<Ankush>hmm Ok guys let me confer with my colleague
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09:53<gparent>I must take this to the council.
09:55<Ankush>Take what?
09:55<gparent>Nothing. It is private matter to the council.
09:56*MajObviousman takes headcount
09:57<MajObviousman>we have a quorum, so I declare this council meeting started
09:57<MajObviousman>gparent: you may proceed with your matter
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10:00<MajObviousman>Ankush: if you have multiple node balancers, then the easy* solution is to set up RRDNS for the record in question, such that the IPs for each node balancer get cycled through
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10:00<MajObviousman>as long as your TTL isn't set way low, then requests from the same party should come in to the same nb
10:00<MajObviousman>though you will likely still need to store any stateful data in a neutral location and not in the web server itself
10:02<Ankush>Ok. Guys, I was checking Node balancer stats view. How can we know the response time for one requests?
10:02<Ankush>For example, HaProxy shows the repsonse time (avg) for the last 1024 requests.
10:03<Ankush>Also the errors. For example, how many requests returned a 500 error. Software load balancer does all this, I am not sure if a hardware load balancer does it though
10:05<sandeep>I don't believe its a hardware loadbalancer
10:07<Ankush>Guys, I am under the impression that Node balancer is a hardware load balancer. Right?
10:07<hawk>My assumption has always been that nodebalancer = software load balancer as a service
10:09<Ankush>HULLO?
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10:12<sandeep>what it gives you is high availability and a web interface to easily configure it
10:13<Ankush>I get that. But it still begs a question , as the guys from Linode have been awfully silent on the matter : Is it pure hardware or HLB as a service?
10:13<Ankush>Because if it is Software only then I will set up my own HaProxy cluster
10:13<sandeep>theres no mention of hardware on the nodebalancer page
10:14<sandeep>they'll reply if you open a ticket
10:14<Ankush>Right. I guess I'll just set up my own SLB .
10:15<Ankush>Yeah I just opened a ticket regarding the same, thanks man.
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10:18<auslinode>I'm trying to add spf to my email, https://www.zoho.com/mail/help/adminconsole/spf-configuration.html recommends i add "v=spf1 include:zoho.com ~all" which I did, however there is no "host" as the example on that page showed(using godaddy)
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10:19<auslinode>when I add a TXT field, what is the 'Name' mean? it is optional or something major?
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10:20<nate>auslinode: I believe TXT has been largely phased out for SPF records, as there's now a literal SPF record type, does the linode manager not let you choose it?
10:20<hawk>nate: The other way around
10:20<gparent>it doesn't.
10:20<gparent>what!?
10:20<gparent>oh I see what you mean
10:20<nate>hawk: Really? I still generally see things suggesting the SPF record I thought
10:20<hawk>nate: The SPF type was introduced in the draft spec alongside TXT, only TXT took off, the final spec only uses TXT
10:21<nate>weird, I've been using the SPF record on all my stuff for a couple years without issue lol
10:21<auslinode>I added that, did not work, don't see where I can assign the "host" to the spf, meanwhile don't know what does the "Name" mean on linode-dns-manage-for-TXT
10:21<gparent>a lot of people do the wrong thing without issue every day.
10:21<nate>as in it being recognized whenever it was tested and stuff
10:21<gparent>it doesn't mean much.
10:21<nate>auslinode: I think 'name' is where you place the SPF record stuff
10:21<gparent>and these things evolve over time
10:21*nate logs in to the DNS manager
10:22<nate>oh
10:22<nate>no, name is for the domain hawk
10:22<auslinode>nate: I think it should be "Value"
10:22<auslinode>what does 'doman hawk' mean
10:22<nate>domain, ie; yourdomainname.com.
10:22<auslinode>ok ,let me try
10:22<nate>you have to associate a TXT record to a specific domain, 'name' is where you do it
10:22<hawk>auslinode: what?
10:23<auslinode>hawk: sorry...not meant to call you :)
10:23<auslinode>nate: I used zoho there, should I use zoho.com or my own website: mycompany.com instead
10:23<nate>I've been using bind w/ webmin far too long, forgot I even had a domain under linode manager
10:24<auslinode>is the TXT record for my website or for zoho.com where my email is hosted
10:24<nate>auslinode: Unless you own zoho.com and are creating SPF records for it, indeed you should use mycompany.com.
10:24<nate>:P
10:24<hawk>nate: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7208#section-3.1
10:25<auslinode>nate: thanks, magically after I typed 'mycompany.com' there it disappears and become blank after saving, guess it is by default, but not very intuitive though as far as GUI goes
10:25<nate>hawk: That kinda makes me sad, feels all dirty being TXT
10:25<auslinode>so I have the Name blank and the value of the SPF-string, will wait for a while then recheck
10:26<nate>(also sorry for mis-highlighting you)
10:26<hawk>nate: It is dirty, as they point out there. "SPF's use of the TXT RR type for structured data should in no way be taken as precedent for future protocol designers." etc
10:26<nate>auslinode: Yeah that's probably fine, if you provided it as a subdomain they would probably only show the subdomain handle, since the only domain you can really manage under that is, well, your own domain
10:26<grawity>TXT is a little dirty, but SPF was a bit too specific imho
10:26<grawity>a bit like SRV vs MX
10:27<auslinode>https://www.zoho.com/mail/help/adminconsole/dkim-configuration.html now it is the DKIM
10:27<auslinode>both are required by zoho mail now
10:30<auslinode>never mind, dkim worked as described
10:30<auslinode>spf after the above changes, i.e. put mycompany.com to Name area in linode dns manager it works too.
10:30<auslinode>nate: thanks!
10:32<auslinode>talking about email, after failed to host my own(too much hassle and too little time to become an email expert), I found zoho mail pretty good, better than gmail enterprise which is blocked in some countries, who else is using zoho?
10:33<auslinode>curl wttr.in
10:34<gparent>#
10:34<auslinode>#rm -rf /
10:34*gparent watches as nothing happens
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10:38<richterv>Is there anyone?
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10:38<richterv>Hi
10:39<Ankush>yo
10:39<richterv>I need some help. How can i access wp-option table via ssh
10:40<richterv>I need to change the site url
10:42<richterv>Hello
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10:47<jes>hello
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10:47<richterv>Hi
10:47<jes>hi
10:47<ponas>richterv: https://codex.wordpress.org/Changing_The_Site_URL
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10:48<richterv>ponas: thanks.
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11:29<rdamasio>hi
11:30<ponas>hello
11:30<rdamasio> Trying to make the new customer registration but I do not receive the email for confirmation
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11:32<dwfreed>rdamasio: your account is probably still being reviewed; it can take a bit sometimes
11:34<rdamasio>ok
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11:35<rdamasio>thanks
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14:57<mmustac>sclemens never watched anime with me lastnight ;_;
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15:05<mmustac>don't worry steve, we won't watch the second arc after ep 15 when it kinda goes to shit, promise
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15:23<fantasymashups>Hi, this weekend is superbowl and we are pushing out multiple marketing campaign on the radio. We are already hitting about 200,000 requests a day registered at our CDN. We are in good shape but I suspect if we tripple that our infrastructure setup might crash. Is it easy for me to click a button and upgrade the node in real time from 4 cores to 20 cores?
15:23<fantasymashups>and then bring it back down easily after that?
15:23<grawity>it's not quite a real-time upgrade, no
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15:23<fantasymashups>Is there down-time? Basically I'd rather not spend $1000 a month rate unless the demand hits
15:23<fantasymashups>per node
15:24<grawity>yeah; iirc it involves (automated) migration to another VM host, since they all have a specific amount of resource slots
15:24<grawity>not very long, but also not instant
15:26<grawity>I think, if you have deployment scripts, spinning up a few more linodes might be faster than resizing the existing one ... OTOH if the server's configs are all artisanally crafted, I dunno
15:26<grawity>well, there are probably people here who have dealt with that
15:26<grawity>(I haven't)
15:28<dwfreed>> artisanally crafted
15:28<dwfreed>I died
15:29<dwfreed>grawity: oh, random tidbit you probably didn't know about regedit vs regedt32 (found your answer when I got curious about that question): regedt32 can be renamed, regedit cannot (at least on win7); this is useful if the admin has set a policy to only let certain program names run (eg iexplore.exe)
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15:30<grawity>(in the sense that I haven't really dealt with services above 200 users...)
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15:31<grawity>dwfreed: hmm what happens if you rename regedit then?
15:31<dwfreed>it dies during startup; probably goes looking for itself, and can't find itself
15:31<dwfreed>it was some weird error, I forget exactly what it was
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15:34<grawity>ah yeah that's weird
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15:34<dwfreed>the funny thing was the admin password on that computer was blank
15:34<dwfreed>which I discovered by accident >.>
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15:44<react>poor fantasymashups, was gonna answer him, but he left :(
15:44<dwfreed>react: I think grawity's answer covered it pretty well
15:45<react>respectfully, I think a big boy work-load requires a big-boy infrastructure, something like GAE, GKE, or AWS EB
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15:45<dwfreed>it doesn't really matter
15:46<dwfreed>if you want better localization, sure, Google and Amazon have better distribution
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15:47<dwfreed>if that doesn't matter to you, Linode can work just as well
15:48<dwfreed>you'll note that The Onion is hosted on Linode, though most of their assets are distributed by CDN
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21:13<fantasymashups>Hi our app is getting 85,000 requests an hour due to a marketing campaign we pushed out. Our CDN is showing almost all content not cached because it's primarily people hitting refresh prolly on datafeeds that can't be cached.
21:14<fantasymashups>On the linode side everything is under pretty high load but still well within thresholds, we have a 4 core instance thats at about 200% CPU
21:14<fantasymashups>We noticed that every few refreshes of the site the CDN is saying "This site if offline, click to retry"
21:14<fantasymashups>which implies that the app on the node isn't serving out the content fast enough or what not
21:14<fantasymashups>Since the performance seems within thresholds do you think this is because we need to increase the php max process count?
21:15<fantasymashups>I believe I have it set to 4 to match the core count
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21:15<kcaj>There is no harm in raising that
21:15<dwfreed>that doesn't really make sense if your blocker is not really CPU
21:15<kcaj>Providing you have CPU resources available to support it
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21:17<dwfreed>a single PHP process can only do one thing at a time; if that one thing is waiting for a database reply, then it's not really doing anything, and another process can step up and use the CPU it's not
21:18<fantasymashups>Thats what I figured dwfreed, I figured we should up it until we are basically getting a higher CPU uiltiization
21:20<fantasymashups>kcaj dwfreed here is a screenshot of our process list http://imgur.com/a/OjWdx
21:20<fantasymashups>Does the 6 count on the php-fpm mean 6 php processes totalling 40% cpu or 40% each?
21:20<kcaj>6 processes totalling 40% use
21:22<fantasymashups>kcaj I ran top and it looks like 40% each
21:22<ponas>yeah I would up the number of php-fpm workers
21:23<kcaj>That's impossible, sir
21:23<kcaj>Since 6 lots of 40% = 240%
21:24<fantasymashups>kcaj http://imgur.com/a/tg5hd
21:24<fantasymashups>kcaj I think what that's showing is a rare spike
21:24<fantasymashups>cause that is really high
21:24<fantasymashups>usually 20% each I think
21:25<kcaj>What is your load avg?
21:26<fantasymashups>2.8 2.4 2.2
21:27<fantasymashups>higher than it was a few minutes ago by quite a bit
21:31<mmustac>guys, I checked Best Buy, CompUSA, and even an old abandoned Circuit City. None of them carry Linux. My boss said he wants a webpage running on Linux!? I'm at my wits end.....WHERE CAN I BUY LINUX w/ WEBPAGE!?
21:32<arlen>did you try a Microsoft store?
21:32<mmustac>hmm...no, is that like those old Gateway stores?
21:33<mmustac>cause on of them is nearby me
21:33<ponas>fantasymashups: your js client is being pretty chatty with the endpoint called update-bet
21:33<ponas>fantasymashups: it seems to be generating a pretty significant amount of requests
21:34<arlen>oh man forgot about the old gateway stores >.<
21:34<fantasymashups>ponas where are you seeing that
21:34<millisa>(best buy does actually have a linux machine - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cybertronpc-axis-lynx1-desktop-amd-athlon-2gb-memory-500gb-hard-drive-black/3004058.p?skuId=3004058 )
21:35<ponas>fantasymashups: on https://www.fantasymashups.com/contest/index
21:35*mmustac puts the syringe filled with soda threatening near his neck vein...I sweat to christ people, if no one helps me I will use this and no longer be in keto
21:35<ponas>fantasymashups: pretty much assuming that is your site since it's on cloudflare and all :)
21:35<fantasymashups>ya :D
21:35<fantasymashups>are you firebuggin it or where are you seeing the specifics
21:36<ponas>just looking at the network tab in chrome devtools
21:36<fantasymashups>ponas I am not seeing any chat, you talking about the websocket frames?
21:37<fantasymashups>oh wow lol I am seeing it now
21:38<JeremyE77>In Stock. Enhanced Linux Computer! Now with Webpage and Windows OS!
21:38<fantasymashups>ponas thanks a million I've been telling the contractor that there has to be an error somewhere to be generating such insane traffic
21:38<ponas>i just see some computer stuff doing less than ideal computer things
21:38<fantasymashups>those requests don't look nessasary
21:40<millisa>they dont seem to start happening until about 30s after the initial page load
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21:43<fantasymashups>I didn't code the site unfortunately but I am assuming that it's loading every single contest over and over again to see if anyone has bet on it
21:43<fantasymashups>just to 'update' the user so they dont have to click reload on the page
21:43<fantasymashups>it should only update the visible ones and maybe only once a minute
21:43<ponas>yeah, there's a few things that could be done
21:43<fantasymashups>so instead of 300 requests a minute it'd be like 3
21:44<ponas>some broadcast-like thing streaming realtime, compact data to the clients that do the HTML stuff
21:44<fantasymashups>ponas I am surprised thats not using websockets
21:45<ponas>even some aggressive caching would help duct-tape it together as a temporary workaround
21:45<ponas>maybe
21:46<fantasymashups>caching where though? App level sure, but that's not goign to make a huge difference. The CDN would be nice but these have to be cached for like 3 minutes max probably and the CDN lowest cache level is like 30 minutes
21:46<JeremyE77>Or a hover or something :)
21:46<fantasymashups>lol or just don't even bother and let the user click reload until a proper fix can be put into place haha
21:46<fantasymashups>most of those requests are failing for me anyway
21:46<JeremyE77>The updating is kind of annoying anways. it makes my scorll bar nutso
21:46<ponas>nginx has some cache tricks up it sleeves
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21:48<ponas>also php7 is significantly faster and opcache can be cool
21:49<fantasymashups>Thanks a million, I let my DEVs know and they were like "oh that makes sense" and are going to fix it
21:50<ponas>ha
21:51<mmustac>sarrrahhhh sarrrahhh no time is a good time for goodbyes ;_;
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